Trump is dangerous - a Messianic Complex

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Ziggy

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As to Lynn Cheney, I'd not vote for a woman for any ruling office. That is to be reserved for men -

Gen 3:16 NLT "Then he said to the woman, 'I will sharpen the pain of your pregnancy, and in pain you will give birth. And you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you.'”

I believe that is the proper dynamic equivalent rendering of the verse, based on Gen. 4:7 and I find God only instructs his people to "choose" men to lead and rule, never a woman. Now God may put a woman in such a position, but never are we given that instruction to do it.
You could say I'm not with the women's lib movement for the most part. Like in roles of authority unless there is no head of the house and the mom has to be the dad too. The fatherless suffer today in our society because of this.

I had a position at work that most men considered a man's job. I worked in a print shop as a machine operator.
I knew I could do the job and I did, but I was also silently judged for it, I could tell.
Sometimes you just know when people don't approve of your .... ? abilities.

I just don't judge people to the best of my ability, gender, race, ethnicity.... I judge their fruits and if they have none, I judge their works.
You can have people that help other people but their attitude really stinks.

I don't want a woman for President either. And I wouldn't vote for one.
But God does the selecting and if it be, so be it.
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Ziggy

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BJJ, I agree completely. Trump making a big point of DeSantis being disloyal to himself because he helped DeSantis in his campaign, I find is narcissistic. The loyalty is to be to the nation, not to the person of Donald Trump. I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020 but he turned me off initially in one of his rallies where he used the disgusting, vulgar and vile word "f...ing" and the so-called evangelical crowd cheered. I reject that sort of evangelical as well as Trump himself. His use of that word openly, in a rally, was all I needed to see the real Trump. If I have to, I'll not vote on the Presidential choice if Trump's opposition is just as bad.
I know we know words matter. But the world has it's own language.
And sometimes if you want to get the world's attention you have to relate to them in their own language.
Trump isn't looking for saints like we're not looking for a god.
He's looking for patriots and we're looking for a leader.
Sometimes the language barrier is only a barrier if you make it one.

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You could say I'm not with the women's lib movement for the most part. Like in roles of authority unless there is no head of the house and the mom has to be the dad too. The fatherless suffer today in our society because of this.

I had a position at work that most men considered a man's job. I worked in a print shop as a machine operator.
I knew I could do the job and I did, but I was also silently judged for it, I could tell.
Sometimes you just know when people don't approve of your .... ? abilities.

I just don't judge people to the best of my ability, gender, race, ethnicity.... I judge their fruits and if they have none, I judge their works.
You can have people that help other people but their attitude really stinks.

I don't want a woman for President either. And I wouldn't vote for one.
But God does the selecting and if it be, so be it.
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I do try to use the biblical instructions with some common sense also. I know a mother whose husband has deserted her, or is incapacitated in some way; and other such situations call for the mother/wife to take the role of leadership and breadwinner. I value understand the woman who is put into such a situation and has that heavy a load to carry. There could be many reasons things don't or can't match the perfection scripture. The best solution available, using scripture to guide and search for an alternative is the only course of action.
 
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I know we know words matter. But the world has it's own language.
And sometimes if you want to get the world's attention you have to relate to them in their own language.
Trump isn't looking for saints like we're not looking for a god.
He's looking for patriots and we're looking for a leader.
Sometimes the language barrier is only a barrier if you make it one.

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WOW! That is the reasoning that has invited the world into the present day churches, and the reason the west is in the sad shape we're in today! So, we are to adopt the word filth of the world in order to relate to them? I don't find the scripture anywhere teaching that.
 
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WOW! That is the reasoning that has invited the world into the present day churches, and the reason the west is in the sad shape we're in today! So, we are to adopt the word filth of the world in order to relate to them? I don't find the scripture anywhere teaching that.
no, you have to open the door and give them a reason to come in and listen.
It's like having a revival in a park. Some songs you may not approve of becuase their too tinny or brassy or loud.
But the people walking by, some of them hear that sound and it attracts them like honey to a bee.

Paul says it this way:

1Co 9:19
For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
1Co 9:20
And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
1Co 9:21
To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
1Co 9:22
To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
1Co 9:23
And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

So in this case, Trump isn't doing it for the "gospels" sake. Although he does speak the truth if you really listen to what he says between the mean tweets...
Trump is doing it for the survival of the free world's sake.

I think you would be surprised how many people have come to Christ since Trump ran for office the first time.
I'm sure you have heard of "Qanon" which the media bashes as a conspiracy theory.
But in those posts are many verses from the bible. The most common is the armor of God.
And people have these seeds planted and they begin to look them up in the bible. And God catches them like a fish on the end of a hook.
It's an awsome thing to behold, so many young people turning to Jesus.
But sometimes you need the honey to attract them, or a certain language that gets their attention.

We live in a very secular world and the whole world is deaf and blind.
Yet somehow he manages to get them to hear.

I'm not listening to the mean tweets, I'm watching the hearts and minds of a generation turn towards God.
And it is wonderful thing to see.

Be patient.. God is working. We may not understand all the details. But I am witnessing the results.

Watch:
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Poof!

And just like that- DeSantis is out as fast as can be. He remains only a vapor in the wind, like someone crop-dusted in the grocery aisle.

Of course- he’s endorsing Trump.
 

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Poof!

And just like that- DeSantis is out as fast as can be. He remains only a vapor in the wind, like someone crop-dusted in the grocery aisle.

Of course- he’s endorsing Trump.
that was fast. That leave Haley and I don't see her winning the ticket no matter how many democrats switch sides.
I been here all day. I haven't been watching anything.
I did eat a couple eggs on toast between posts LOL.
I been here for at least 10 hours.
Overtime!
I never get enough of this place.
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Trump making a big point of DeSantis being disloyal to himself because he helped DeSantis in his campaign, I find is narcissistic. The loyalty is to be to the nation, not to the person of Donald Trump.
With all due respect, I believe you are confusing loyalty with patriotism. It's not loyalty to the country but patriotism that one might run for any office.

In our society, loyalty to a person is a punch line of a bad joke as if only fools are loyal in the face of adversity.

It's one thing for DeSantis to run for POTUS because he thinks he can do the job. It's another thing for him to be disloyal to someone who helped you due to their patriotism.

he turned me off initially in one of his rallies where he used the disgusting, vulgar and vile word "f...ing" and the so-called evangelical crowd cheered.
Petty.

His use of that word openly, in a rally, was all I needed to see the real Trump.
Huh? Some Christians falsely equate such words of emphasis with violating the Commandment to not use the lords name in vain. Truly, there is no relationship. Why Swearing Can Make Us Sound More Convincing, According to Science

The whole purpose of swear words is emphasis. I told her no. I told her no f-ing way. See the difference?
 
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How many Republican presidents have done nothing about abortion?
I'm white, and no one has called me a racist. I am so sick of the generalities, the all encompassing They all. Some of you folk act as if trump has done no wrong.
It just amazes me.

trump had the first part of his reign with republican majority. Nothing happened.
Quick Civics lesson: The office is President, not king. It is the Legislature Branch that creates laws, not the Executive Branch. The first part of Trump's presidency, a great part of the Republican legislature didn't trust him because he was an outsider, i.e., hadn't been bought off by lobbyists.

The Democrats are hands-down evil instruments of Satan and his demons. Some of the Republicans (RINO's) are, too. The Republican Party, as a whole, though, is spineless. So, take your pick. evil Democrats or spineless Republicans?

We need two things: 1) Term limits for Congress. and 2) A law forbidding lobbying of Congress. All that ends up being is buying off congressional votes.
 

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I am a Centrist, I voted under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and since I will never NOT vote, I will vote NOT for tRump

Please do not listen to those who say that you cannot be a Centrist or Moderate. Don't listen to them when they say that you are choosing evil by being a Centrist or a Moderate. They do not get to judge that we are choosing evil.

You most certainly can be a Centrist or a Moderate. I am, and we're not the only ones.

If you must, put them on ignore, just as others have including me. Trust me, it makes things so much more peaceful!
 

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Good! I cannot wait till he is no longer Governor of Florida.
I used to like Younkin better till I found out he is supporting the WEF.
Anyone under the influence of WEF elitism will not get my vote, if I know about it.

If they disavow that globalist WEF elitism and those horrible policies, I will change my mind.

Will you accept their brain implant?