Trump is dangerous - a Messianic Complex

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Big Boy Johnson

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This means I do believe we are living right now in the 1,000 years reign - the 1,000 years just being an indeterminate time between the resurrection and the second coming.
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So, 1000 years doesn't mean... 1000 years!

Talk about twisting the meaning of scripture! rolleyes2.gif

It's already been over 2000 years since the resurrection ya know.
 

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Of course, we share Christ with others. Do you think I'm advocating we don't??

But that doesn't mean I'm just going to just walk past, ignoring the person who actually needs some help.

There no need or purpose to paint my desire to defend those who cannot defend themselves as some Leftist mantra. That's actually rather distasteful to me. No greater love has a man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. Doesn't that suggest a life or death struggle to you?

Do you believe in simply allowing others to take care of themselves, without your help, even if it kills them?

I'd say, be careful about that kind of mindset. "Be safe, and protected!" but I won't lift a finger to help you?

There is a time for peace, and a time for war.

Much love!
Doing good to them . but putting hopes in govts and men , NOT GOOD .
Knock me upside the head with some good scrips to defend why WE SHOULD TRUST IN TRUMP
and i allow the left to do the same as to why i should hope in biden . PS HAPPY HUNTING .
the scrips . Yalls hope is in this world , praying and pleading , hoping and begging for trump to get back in .
AS FOR ME , it wont matter what king sits the throne and no matter what cometh against me . I ALREADY HAVE MY HOPE
and its In THE LORD . THIS WORLD WAS NEVER PROMISED TO BE FRIENDLY OR SUPPORTIVE OF ME .
RATHER QUITE THE OPPOSITE .
 
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amigo de christo

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Amen brother.

I hope you will not be scoffed at and guffawed for this. The gospel is foolishness to the natural man.
hold not thy breath on that . MANY SCOFF and etc at this ALL THE TIME as they cling to the hope their politicain has given them
and not rather JUST HOPE IN GOD IN CHRIST . SOON they all will merge as one sister .
SOON those whose hope was in this life , this world , these govts and these men will merge as one
under the one who has come in his own name and in the name of humanity and of men .
 

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Blessed are you when you are reviled , persecuted for my name sake .
today many think its blessed are you when TRUMP or BIDEN sits the throne and times are easy and the world is kind to you .
 

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WE SHOULD TRUST IN TRUMP
Trust in Trump? In God we trust. But I'm hoping to elect him president again!

I'm not indifferent to those who suffer under evil regimes, and particularly when I have it within easy reach to do something to hopefully improve all our lot.

Don't try to make this like I'm in some religious Trump fervor. I would much rather you just hear what I'm saying about myself, then to make it into something it's not.

Much love!
 
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Our foreign policy wasn't inviting WW3..

The country, indeed the whole world is blowing up under Joe Biden...
I've seen this point made pretty often and I'm having a hard time understanding how Biden is responsible for the wars in Ukraine and the middle east during his presidency. Obviously he's responsible for how he responds but I'm not sure why is it his fault if a war was started in another country. Could someone with more political knowledge than me explain this? Thank you
 

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I've seen this point made pretty often and I'm having a hard time understanding how Biden is responsible for the wars in Ukraine and the middle east during his presidency. Obviously he's responsible for how he responds but I'm not sure why is it his fault if a war was started in another country. Could someone with more political knowledge than me explain this? Thank you
Iran released the hostages on the day Ronald Reagan, the "Cowboy President" was inaugurated. Iran wasn't afraid of President Carter, but they were afraid of President Reagan. Their perception of our president affected their behavior.

In the same way, Putin was afraid of what Trump might do if he attached Ukraine, but he was no afraid of what Biden would do. Putin knew he'd get push-back from Trump that he wouldn't get from Biden.

Much love!
 

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I've seen this point made pretty often and I'm having a hard time understanding how Biden is responsible for the wars in Ukraine and the middle east during his presidency. Obviously he's responsible for how he responds but I'm not sure why is it his fault if a war was started in another country. Could someone with more political knowledge than me explain this? Thank you
Say a child had two parents (as should be). One was strict and didn't put up with any humbug, and the other was lenient (a marshmallow). Say a child is contemplating doing someting bad. If the lenient parent is in the room (alone), the child is far more likely to attempt doing something bad than if the strict parent is.

Similarly, Putin would have never invaded Ukraine if Trump was President. Everyone knew not to "mess" with the U.S. or her allies when Trump was President. Biden, on the other hand, is the most inept, weak-kneed, limp-wristed President we've ever had. The bad actor countries know they can get away with anything because Biden is so weak. Like a bad child, they will keep doing more and more bad things until someone stops them. At this point, it doesn't seem to be that anyone will.
 

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I've seen this point made pretty often and I'm having a hard time understanding how Biden is responsible for the wars in Ukraine and the middle east during his presidency.

Directly, he may not be responsible, but indirectly, he is. Ronald Reagan had a saying: peace through strength. The U.S. right now under Biden does not exude strength. Bad actors are going to take advantage of it, like sharks smelling blood in the water. There's a reason why Putin invaded Ukraine under Obama and Biden, but not Trump.
 

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In the same way, Putin was afraid of what Trump might do if he attached Ukraine, but he was no afraid of what Biden would do. Putin knew he'd get push-back from Trump that he wouldn't get from Biden.

Similarly, Putin would have never invaded Ukraine if Trump was President. Everyone knew not to "mess" with the U.S. or her allies when Trump was President.

There's a reason why Putin invaded Ukraine under Obama and Biden, but not Trump.
Thank you all for the input. I assume Trump doesn't want to send troops to Ukraine, but are you saying that it's more of a threat that if he did, it would be more threatening to Putin (and Hamas) to be at war with Trump then Biden?

More people on the left seem to support Hamas than the right so it could make sense to me that Trump would be harder on them than Biden.
 

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Thank you all for the input. I assume Trump doesn't want to send troops to Ukraine, but are you saying that it's more of a threat that if he did, it would be more threatening to Putin (and Hamas) to be at war with Trump then Biden?

More people on the left seem to support Hamas than the right so it could make sense to me that Trump would be harder on them than Biden.
Or sanctions, or, I'm not going to second guess what he'd do, only that yes, Putin would take him as a more formidable opponant in whatever regard.

Much love!
 

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Thank you all for the input. I assume Trump doesn't want to send troops to Ukraine, but are you saying that it's more of a threat that if he did, it would be more threatening to Putin (and Hamas) to be at war with Trump then Biden?

I'm not sure I completely understand your question. But I think Trump would do everything to end it peacefully, first and foremost. Sending troops would be a sure way to escalate things, and nobody should want that. Biden, NATO, and Zelensky, on the other hand, have been resistant to peace talks. They keep upping the ante, which risks the possibility of it turning from a regional war into a global war. Frankly, I think there's more going on than what we see at the surface level, and I have my own ideas about that. Suffice to say, I don't believe Putin is the devil and Biden is certainly no saint.
 

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I've seen this point made pretty often and I'm having a hard time understanding how Biden is responsible for the wars in Ukraine and the middle east during his presidency. Obviously he's responsible for how he responds but I'm not sure why is it his fault if a war was started in another country. Could someone with more political knowledge than me explain this? Thank you

Trump is two things that I will point out here. Trump is good with people, he can talk to the average person like he is one. Trump is also very very true to his word.

Trump is so good with people you can tell when he's blowing smoke, and when he really means what he's saying. You have to hear and see him speak to pick up on all the cues, but he makes it very obvious, and his full speeches of everything he puts out there for his constituents to see and hear. (The bluster just makes people feel good, they know it's bluster and they still like it...)

But so far, he's kept every single word. He is nothing if not someone who has shown that he's as loyal to the American people as they are to him. He is a man of his word when he means something he says.

As others in this thread have pointed out, peace through strength is literally the only thing that works with some people, and perhaps the only thing that ever will work with some nations.

But part of peace through strength is knowing when you have to keep your word, and when you have to bluff. And your enemies have to think you would follow through on whatever threat you just made when the stakes are highest, because that's the threat you really don't want to follow through on.

So when the stakes are low is when you always follow through, and follow through hard. That way when the stakes are highest, all you have to make is the threat to win the battle.

And Trump is actually really good at peace through strength.

He's good at it because he's so good with people that when he's making world stage type of threats with, for instance North Korea, you really can't tell if he's bluffing or if he really means it. But you do know that he's a man of his word.

It leaves that niggling doubt that is a little scary. But It's a fear that stops men like Putin from going too far, so it's a necessary quality to have in any leader, especially if you're going to have any influence at all on the world stage.
 
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So, 1000 years doesn't mean... 1000 years!

Talk about twisting the meaning of scripture! View attachment 40874

It's already been over 2000 years since the resurrection ya know.

Revelation is apocalyptic literature that is full of symbols and imagery. Dragons and beasts and such your used to seeing symbolically, but the numbers are just as symbolic and often evokes just as much imagery as the beasts do.

Revelation is a beautiful well... It's not nonsensical, but it is a well.
 
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Revelation is apocalyptic literature that is full of symbols and imagery. Dragons and beasts and such your used to seeing symbolically, but the numbers are just as symbolic and often evokes just as much imagery as the beasts do.

Revelation is a beautiful well... It's not nonsensical, but it is a well. It's written in layers and layers of meaning.

The concepts and colors! The spiritual principles employed… it’s the actual revelation of Jesus Christ given in spirit. It’s rich with meaning.
 
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