Where does the Pope get his authority?

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Adrift

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Hey Adrift,

What Protestant man has revealed the Truth of Scripture to you?

Curious Mary
It was revealed to me by the Holy Spirit through a process of eliminating potential variations of meaning and eliminating interpretations that were not God centered, like your Catechism.
 

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St. Peter in 2 Peter 1:20-21, warned against personal interpretation of Scripture with regard to forming doctrine.
This is a very common misunderstanding of this passage.

2 Peter 1:19-21 KJV
19) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
2 Peter 1:19-21 LITV

19) and we have the more established prophetic Word, in which you do well to take heed, as to a lamp shining in a murky place, until day dawns and the Light-bearing One rises in your hearts;
20) knowing this first, that every prophecy of Scripture did not come into being of its own interpretation;
21) for prophecy was not at any time borne by the will of man, but being borne along by the Holy Spirit, holy men of God spoke.
2 Peter 1:19-21 YLT

19) And we have more firm the prophetic word, to which we do well giving heed, as to a lamp shining in a dark place, till day may dawn, and a morning star may arise—in your hearts;
20) this first knowing, that no prophecy of the Writing doth come of private exposition,
21) for not by will of man did ever prophecy come, but by the Holy Spirit borne on holy men of God spake.

This is a passage concerning the origin of Biblical prophecy, as is shown in the grammar of vs. 20, and the simple statement of vs. 21.
"come into being" is the thought here, the origin, not by private explanation (that is, the prophet's own ideas), not by the choice of a man, the the Holy Spirit carried the holy men who spoke His Word.

While I agree we need to follow the Holy Spirit's revelation of Scripture, this passage is actually teaching something different, and it's a mis-use of Scripture to substitute another meaning.

You can offer an application, such as to say, The Holy Spirit, not man, gave us these prophecies, so the Holy Spirit, not man, interprets them.

Concerning the "private interpretation" of Scripture, it's my view that the Holy Spirit does not, and will not contradict Himself, and therefore no word of Scripture will be overturned by any understandings of Scripture given by the Holy Spirit. Therefore by the clear and direct sayings of Scripture we can test anyone's private interpretations. If it's from the Spirit it will agree fully with the Bible.

I've found that a great many teachings actually contradict this or that passage, and by that I can know the teaching is false. Those who make such contradictory claims often assert this is a "spiritual understanding" or something like that. But true understanding will never contradict the plain sayings of the Scriptures.

Much love!
 
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Mostly the non-Catholic ones.
All the non-Catholic denominations teach different salvific doctrines with some of them having the same doctrines as The Church.

Do YOU pick the salvific doctrines you like from each denomination and call them your own?

Curious Mary
 

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Hey Adrift,

Do you believe that any man can read Scripture, interpret it properly to KNOW the Truth?

Curious Mary
Your rambling questions indicate a sense of unease and nervousness. Why not just list them in one post and I'll hammer my way through them?
 

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Your rambling questions indicate a sense of unease and nervousness. Why not just list them in one post and I'll hammer my way through them?
Lol...and you crack me up. I asked you 2 very direct questions and you accuse me of rambling. Do you even know the definition of that word? (clearly you don't)

How about this kiddo. You go pray to your god Horus and I will pray to mine. Deal?
 
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All the non-Catholic denominations teach different salvific doctrines with some of them having the same doctrines as The Church.

Do YOU pick the salvific doctrines you like from each denomination and call them your own?

Curious Mary
God’s Word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus and not by our own efforts or works (Ephesians 2:8-9).
I'm sure that your salvific postion is through works. Good luck with that.
 

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Oops...You meant revealed to you by Horus.
I wasn't being snide and rude. You are. For some reason you strike like a threatened snake. Sad but understandable.
 
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I wasn't being snide and rude. You are. For some reason you strike like a threatened snake. Sad but understandable.
I am only addressing your anti-Christ Horus avatar and you knew that already sooooooo If you think I was being snide or rude....Grow up.
 
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God’s Word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus and not by our own efforts or works (Ephesians 2:8-9).
I'm sure that your salvific postion is through works. Good luck with that.
Hey Adrift,

If I knew you were willing to listen and learn I would list several other passages from Scripture that tells us what we must do to be saved other than Ephesians. For you see, us Christians adhere to all of Scripture. Not just the cherry picked passages that we like.

Thanks for the good luck wish. That was very kind of you! :)
 

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Hey Adrift,

If I knew you were willing to listen and learn I would list several other passages from Scripture that tells us what we must do to be saved other than Ephesians. For you see, us Christians adhere to all of Scripture. Not just the cherry picked passages that we like.

Thanks for the good luck wish. That was very kind of you! :)
Us Christians?
 
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Which Protestant denomination aligns with the Word of God?

Curious Mary
That is the wrong question. There is not denomination in Scripture. Either you are following Jesus or not.

Read the entire Bible but then read Hebrews again. As the entire letter is to teach you how Jesus is the ONE and ONLY High Priest. That He is greater than law, prophets, priests, traditions, angels, and anything else.

When people are stuck on denomination, traditions, and people then they don't know God.
 
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John 20:27 recounts the risen Christ inviting Thomas to gather tactile evidence of Christ's physical body. What's up with that?
Did you notice when reading the accounts, that Jesus “appeared” to his disciples throughout the 40 days that he remained after his resurrection, but that not many recognised him? If he was raised in the battered and tortured body that was put to death, wouldn’t you think someone would have commented on his dreadful physical condition?

OTOH if God raised his son back to life, and it was by God’s power that the sick and disabled were healed, would he not have raised his beloved son in a healed body?

That brings us to Thomas, who said he would not believe unless he saw the physical evidence of Christ’s execution. If Jesus was raised as a spirit, then he had the ability to materialise a body with those wounds in order to convince a ‘doubting Thomas’.....at the other times the scriptures are silent about his physical condition, which had Jesus in an appalling physical state even before his being nailed to the stake.

I can find only two occasions where he presented himself with the wound marks on his hands, feet and side, to convince his disciples that it was him......but they were only the marks of his execution, not the torture that preceded it. He even ate something to prove that he wasn’t a ghost....but going back in history we see that angels materialised in Abraham’s time to bring him news of a son that he and his wife would have and he prepared a banquet for them, at which they ate and drank what was provided.

Two of them went on to Sodom to rescue Lot and his family and again they partook of food and drink. So we have scriptural precedents of spirit beings transforming themselves into human form to deliver messages to God’s earthly servants.....why did they do this? Because God’s law forbade them to communicate with spirits. Again there is a reason for this....

Rebel angels had materialised in Noah’s day and had wreaked havoc among the human race, turning the earth into a place of extreme violence and licentiousness. God took action and flooded the world, eliminating their horrid offspring along with the humans they had corrupted, and forced their errant fathers back to the spirit realm where he dealt with them. They were never able to materialise again, though faithful angels still carried out their duties in bringing God’s message to his human servants. Gabriel appeared to Daniel and also to Mary, as a man.

Flesh and blood cannot exist outside of earth’s atmosphere which is where he designed humans to live.

The apostle Paul wrote at 1 Cor 15:50-53...
“But I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom, nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Look! I tell you a sacred secret: We will not all fall asleep in death, but we will all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we will be changed. 53 For this which is corruptible must put on incorruption, and this which is mortal must put on immortality.”

Since Jesus’ “chosen ones” (those with the heavenly calling. Heb 3:1) had to die the same death and experience the same resurrection as he did, this tells us how that happens.....a complete transformation from earthly creatures of flesh and blood, to immortal and incorruptible spirit beings, so as to dwell in the presence of God in heaven.

Jesus was ‘put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit’. (1 Pet 3:18)
 
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Hey Adrift,

If I knew you were willing to listen and learn I would list several other passages from Scripture that tells us what we must do to be saved other than Ephesians. For you see, us Christians adhere to all of Scripture. Not just the cherry picked passages that we like.

Thanks for the good luck wish. That was very kind of you! :)
I changed my avatar because you were displeased.

Let nothing disturb you, nothing frighten you, all things are passing, God is unchanging. (St. Teresa of Avila)
 
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I am only addressing your anti-Christ Horus avatar and you knew that already sooooooo If you think I was being snide or rude....Grow up.
I changed it. I liked the eye and didn't know it was a Horus. Thanks
 

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Oh ye' of little faith......
They were taking bites out of the man while he was still alive???

And they have been eating him ever since ......:ummm: and drinking his blood for the last 2000 years?

So, he taught them to break God’s law? Wow!....if you believe that, I have some land at the Nth Pole to sell you...really cheap!

I feel confident leaving all your posts for others to read your sad excuses and unanswered questions....
How you can defend such unscriptural nonsense is a product of pure adulterated indoctrination...explained by Paul. It’s a special kind of ‘blindness’ that afflicts the majority apparently.....(2 Cor 4:3-4; Matt 7:13-14; 21-23) We can try offering our excuses to Jesus, but he won’t accept them.