Avoiding : The Cults.. #2 : CALVINISM -"TULIP"

[Eternally Grateful]

How do you know that Gods word lives, that His Living word is everywhere...how would you know that?

The written word is not the Living word, thousands have become Born Again having never read a Bible...who made them Born Again...what inside them was Born Again?

This is what I mean

no one is born again without the gospel.. They may have never read the gospel in the word. they may have heard it from a teacher of the word. A friend who gives them the word. or God speaking his word directly to them.

But no one is saved apart from the living word.. Written down in the book we call the bible (logos)

Why don;t you burn your Bible Rita? What good is it to you or anyone else.. You treat the bible like you treat the cross.. Its sad!!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Not biblical

Not biblical.

You imo with respect have zero understanding on the Living word of God.

Gods word is Alive and Active.

What in us is alienated from God?

What does the Spirit give birth to in us?

1 Peter 1: 22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, 23 having been born again, not of [k]corruptible seed but [l]incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides [m]forever, 24 because

Peter said I WAS BORN AGAIN.

Nice try Rita. But someone has deceived you

 

[Eternally Grateful]

He spoke sense in that post.

Much sense.

No he did not. He was puffing himself up. and as usual trying to tear others down.

 

[Ritajanice]

This is what I mean

no one is born again without the gospel.. They may have never read the gospel in the word. they may have heard it from a teacher of the word. A friend who gives them the word. or God speaking his word directly to them.

No one is Born Again without the Living Spirit, when he gives birth to our spirit...Spirit gives birth to spirit.

You hear the gospel the good news from a minister or a person, I heard all about Jesus and his death at school...I understood that I’m my human intellect.

I now understand that in my spirit, because I am Born Again of imperishable seed that Liveth

But no one is saved apart from the living word.. Written down in the book we call the bible (logos)

Why don;t you burn your Bible Rita? What good is it to you or anyone else.. You treat the bible like you treat the cross.. Its sad!!

The Living word is Gods Living word he can’t be contained, how do you think God makes people Born Again, by His Living Spirit.

 

[Behold]

Gods word is a Living word...

Thats the word of God., and the word of God, is more than a book.

Its spiritual, its living, and its REVELATION. Its Light for Life. Its "Milk" its "Prophecy"... "Its a lamp and a light"... and it has the ability to read your mind and separate soul and spirit.

Now, when we see this..>"W.ord" of God.. so that the "W" is capitalized in a bible verse... then we are looking at a verse that is specifically talking about Jesus or God.

Notice....

"the bible is the .. .word of God".

"The Word, became flesh and dwelt among us".

Now, notice this verse... Reader.

"""""""Not by works of righteousness which we have done,.... but according to GOD's mercy God saved us,.."""""

HOW?

1st.) by the washing of regeneration,....... 2nd.) and renewing of the Holy Ghost;


What has to happen 1st ....is the washing, is the "blood atonement" applied...... and then the "renewing" 2nd.) that is to be born again?

(keep reading).....

Notice carefully that the washing, comes BEFORE the "renewing of the Holy Ghost".

So, the Washing, is... 1.) to become "made righteous"... so that the "renewing"... can then happen..as 2.) = "born again".

You have to be cleaned, "made free from sin" before......... you can be "born again".,..... as otherwise, you'd be born again, unforgiven.

So, we give God our faith in Christ, and God accepts our faith, to CLEAN US, WASH US in the BLood of JESUS>

And now being WASHED, "made free from sin".. .God can Join Himself to us, and does, and we are BORN AGAIN... "one with God", 'In Christ" as a NEW Creation.

 

[Ritajanice]

1 Peter 1: 22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, 23 having been born again, not of [k]corruptible seed but [l]incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides [m]forever, 24 because

Peter said I WAS BORN AGAIN.

Nice try Rita. But someone has deceived you

You must be Born Again by the Living Spirit..your soul is not purified..not until you have been Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

No one is Born Again without the Living Spirit, when he gives birth to our spirit...Spirit gives birth to spirit.

Once again, You can not find this in scripture

where do you come up with this stuff

You hear the gospel the good news from a minister or a person, I heard all about Jesus and his death at school...I understood that I’m my human intellect.

I now understand that in my spirit, because I am Born Again of imperishable seed that Liveth

The Living word is Gods Living word he can’t be contained, how do you think God makes people Born Again, by His Living Spirit.

How does he make us born again?

He baptizes us into Christ, He washes our sins and makes us white as snow. He redeems us with his blood. He justified us by imputing to us the righteousness of his son.

 

[Ritajanice]

Thats the word of God., and the word of God, is more than a book.

Its spiritual, its living, and its REVELATION. Its Light for Life. Its "Milk" its "Prophecy"... "Its a lamp and a light"... and it has the ability to read your mind and separate soul and spirit.

Now, when we see this..>"W.ord" of God.. so that the "W" is capitalized in a bible verse... then we are looking at a verse that is specifically talking about Jesus or God.

Notice....

"the bible is the .. .word of God".

"The Word, became flesh and dwelt among us".

Now, notice this verse... Reader.

"""""""Not by works of righteousness which we have done,.... but according to GOD's mercy God saved us,.."""""

HOW?

1st.) by the washing of regeneration,....... 2nd.) and renewing of the Holy Ghost;


What has to happen 1st so that, that is the washing, is the "blood atonement"...... and then the "renewing" 2nd.) that is to be born again?

(keep reading).....

Notice carefully that the washing, comes BEFORE the "renewing of the Holy Ghost".

So, the Washing, is... 1.) to become "made righteous"... so that the "renewing"... can then happen..as 2.) = "born again".

You have to be cleaned, "made free from sin" before......... you can be "born again".,..... as otherwise, you'd be born again, unforgiven.

So, we give God our faith in Christ, and God accepts our faith, to CLEAN US, WASH US in the BLood of JESUS>

And now being WASHED, "made free from sin".. .God can Join Himself to us, and does, and we are BORN AGAIN... "one with God", 'In Christ" as a NEW Creation.

That is your own understanding of what it means to be Born Again.

We don’t need any scripture to know that we have been Born Again by the Living word of God.

Only the Spirit of God His Living Spirit can do this.

Spirit gives birth to spirit.

We are Born Again of imperishable seed that ..LIVETH the seed liveth in our heart where it was planted by the Living word of God...that Living seed will grow, mature and flourish because God’s Living word planted it.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You must be Born Again by the Living Spirit..your soul is not purified..not until you have been Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth.

which happens when I trust him and recieve his gift of salvation in my heart.

My soul was purified the moment i was saved or justified..

 

[Ritajanice]

Once again, You can not find this in scripture

where do you come up with this stuff

How does he make us born again?

He baptizes us into Christ, He washes our sins and makes us white as snow. He redeems us with his blood. He justified us by imputing to us the righteousness of his son.

What does he Baptise into Christ?

He makes us Born Again by His Living Spirit.

You can’t do that.

 

[Behold]

You must be Born Again by the Living Spirit..your soul is not purified..not until you have been Born Again of imperishable seed that liveth.

Paul is talking to the Born again.. and he's explaining that they have purified their souls....because they trusted in Christ, who did it for them.

"THEY" did it....by "faith in Christ", which Causes GOD to do this...... Philippians 1:6

How do you know?
Its because we could not purify our own souls....but we can CHOOSE to trust in the Holy One, Jesus The Lord, whose shed BLood is our eternal Atonement.
And his Death is His Sacrifice of Himself, so that we can be cleansed, cleaned, made righteous, justified, sanctified, and born again., By God.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That is your own understanding of what it means to be Born Again.

We don’t need any scripture to know that we have been Born Again by the Living word of God.

Only the Spirit of God His Living Spirit can do this.

Spirit gives birth to spirit.

We are Born Again of imperishable seed that ..LIVETH the seed liveth in our heart where it was planted by the Living word of God...that Living seed will grow, mature and flourish because God’s Living word planted it.

think about it everyone

According to Rita, we do not need the cross, or the word of God we just need the spirit to make us born again..

And people wonder why calvinism is so dangerous

 

[Ritajanice]

which happens when I trust him and recieve his gift of salvation in my heart.

My soul was purified the moment i was saved or justified..

That is your belief system.

My belief system is different to yours..NEVER to be denied.

 

[Ritajanice]

Paul is talking to the Born again.. and he's explaining that they have purified their souls....because they trusted in Christ, who did it for them.

"THEY" did it....by "faith in Christ", which Causes GOD to do this...... Philippians 1:6

How do you know?
Its because we could not purify our own souls....but we can CHOOSE to trust in the Holy One, Jesus The Lord, whose BLood is our atonement, and his Death is His Sacrifice of Himself, so that we can be cleansed, cleaned, made righteous, and born again.

Sorry, you can’t trust in Christ or even know Christ, without being Born Again of His Living Spirit.

Paul didn’t tell me I was Born Again.

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods Children....His Living Spirit testifies with our spirit.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What does he Baptise into Christ?

You tell me.. What does he baptize into Christ

Paul said we were

Romans 6:3

Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?

1 Corinthians 12:13

For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

He makes us Born Again by His Living Spirit.

You can’t do that.

I never said i could

And you never heard me say I could!!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That is your belief system.

My belief system is different to yours..NEVER to be denied.

Thats what scares me..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Sorry, you can’t trust in Christ or even know Christ, without being Born Again of His Living Spirit.

sorry, I can;t be born again UNTIL i trust first.

Paul didn’t tell me I was Born Again.

The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods Children....His Living Spirit testifies with our spirit.

Nonsensical..

 

[Ritajanice]

You tell me.. What does he baptize into Christ

Paul said we were

Romans 6:3

Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?

1 Corinthians 12:13

For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

I never said i could

And you never heard me say I could!!

I stand on the Living word of God.

You stand on the written word and can’t back it up with Gods Living word.

Gods Living word backs up His written word.

Spirit gives birth to spirit..the Living word, backed up by the written word.

Born Again of imperishable seed, the Living word, backed up by the written word.

 

[Ritajanice]

Thats what scares me..

It would do.

 

[Ritajanice]

sorry, I can;t be born again UNTIL i trust first.



Nonsensical..

That is your belief...are we done yet?xx