SALVATION OF ANIMALS

[Peterlag]

So you believe He is just a man then.

What was He before He became just a man. teh bible specifically says He existed before He became a man. What type of being was He then?

You know what I am asking. Just come out with the full answer.

Example number 1.) You add words that I never said. I never said Jesus was just a man.
Example number 2.) You leave out words that I did say. I said he was the son of God, the Messiah to Israel.

Being the Messiah and the son of God is not just a man.

 

[keithr]

Do you believe this verse?

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Or did God make a mistake here as well and needs the mystical powers of Keithr to tell us what He meant here.

Yes, of course I believe that verse. However, you need to delve slightly deeper and realise what the Hebrew text actually says - Genesis 2:17 (KJV):

(17) But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. [thou shalt surely … : Heb. dying thou shalt die]​

Note what the footnote says the Hebrew means. Similarly, a literal translation (YLT) says:

(17) and of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou dost not eat of it, for in the day of thine eating of it—dying thou dost die.'​

So what God said was that if Adam ate the fruit of the tree then he would start dying and would eventually die. True to God's word, Adam eventually dies, aged 930 (Genesis 5:5). We need to understand that Adam was decaying and dying, and no longer perfect, when he begat children. It means that all humanity has inherited imperfections and a dying nature from Adam (and Eve), and as a result we all will die. That is why we needed God to provide a saviour to enable us to live forever.

Like Paul said, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

I've already explained my understanding of that in post #169. To correctly understand what Paul means we have to harmonise all his teachings. Paul wrote, 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 (MKJV):

(22) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all will be made alive.​

(23) But each in his own order: Christ the first-fruit, and afterward they who are Christ's at His coming;​

So no Christian is restored to life after they die until Jesus returns for his bride/church. Therefore by saying that after he died he will be with Jesus, he must have meant that in his next conscious moment after he dies will be when he is resurrected and caught up to be present with Jesus.

So now you are a translation expert as well?

As I wrote in post #312:

notice that the KJV has "hath he quickened" in italics, meaning that it's not in the original manuscripts but has been added by the translators - Ephesians 2:1 (KJV):

(1) And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;​

You don't have to be a translation expert to understand that, you just need to read the explanations in a study Bible. In my King James Version study Bible it explains in the "How to Use the Hebrew Greek Key Study Bible" section:

ITALICS are used in the text to indicate words which are not found in the original Hebrew or Greek but are implied by it.​

If you think that reading the instructions makes me an expert, well fine. If you haven't understood that simple method used in the KJV of highlighting words added by the translators, well now you have learnt something - I'm glad that I have been able to help you.

Interesting that all the translations all say we were dead, but you say we were not really dead in any sense but just considered dead.

As Peter said, 2 Peter 3:15-16 (WEB):

(15) Regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also, according to the wisdom given to him, wrote to you;​

(16) as also in all of his letters, speaking in them of these things. In those, there are some things that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unsettled twist, as they also do to the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.​

It seems to be hard for you to understand what Paul wrote. I've prayed for God to help you understand it.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Example number 1.) You add words that I never said. I never said Jesus was just a man.
Example number 2.) You leave out words that I did say. I said he was the son of God, the Messiah to Israel.

Being the Messiah and the son of God is not just a man.

Then instead of playing elusive word games, define what kind of being Jesus is. You know what I am asking, and it is simple to answer. You gave titles not being.

Is He angelic, human, Divine----what according to you?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I've already explained my understanding of that in post #169. To correctly understand what Paul means we have to harmonise all his teachings. Paul wrote, 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 (MKJV):

You have explained your understanding, but it is radically different from what Paul wrote. Are yo more inspired than PAUL??

So what God said was that if Adam ate the fruit of the tree then he would start dying and would eventually die. True to God's word, Adam eventually dies, aged 930 (Genesis 5:5). We need to understand that Adam was decaying and dying, and no longer perfect, when he begat children. It means that all humanity has inherited imperfections and a dying nature from Adam (and Eve), and as a result we all will die. That is why we needed God to provide a saviour to enable us to live forever.

YOu also forget that when Adam begat children, they were in his image and not in the image of God. He died spiritually that day. and the physical process of death began.

As Peter said, 2 Peter 3:15-16 (WEB):

(15) Regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also, according to the wisdom given to him, wrote to you;(16) as also in all of his letters, speaking in them of these things. In those, there are some things that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unsettled twist, as they also do to the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
It seems to be hard for you to understand what Paul wrote. I've prayed for God to help you understand it.

Once again to disagree with your understanding means one does not understand the Scriptures and that is just not so! Paul wrote very plainly and if he wanted to say what your understanding of his writings are, there were plenty of exact words god would have PAul used to write. We do not need someone's understanding 2000 years after the fact to know what he wrote

They are hard to understand, for as they are written it was hard to believe in his day.

 

[GeneZ]

The Salvation of Animals?​

The Salvation of Animals?

www.perspectivedigest.org

Over the years, as pastor and teacher, I have encountered numerous persons grieving over the recent loss of a beloved dog or cat who enquired about the possibility of the resurrection of their pets and other animals. As an inveterate animal lover myself, intimately bonded with some amazing dogs and cats as “family members” since childhood, I have a personal interest in this question. Also, as I have taught the doctrine of the sanctuary and considered the unnumbered animals offered in Old Testament times under the divinely ordained sacrificial system, I have often wondered how God is going to “make things right” for these innocent creatures? Here are some musings.

I do not have any final answers, but I have found some tantalizing hints in Scripture that suggest the possibility of at least some animals (including our pets and the sacrificial animals) being resurrected and saved for eternity. Among the intriguing biblical texts (and other inspired data) consider the following:

Psalm 36:6 affirms: “You save humans and animals alike, O Lord” (NRSV). Though some versions translate save as “preserve,” it is the same Hebrew word used for eternal salvation elsewhere in Scripture.

Micah 4:8 speaks of the restoration of the “first dominion” (KJV) at the end of time. The first dominion, which Adam and Eve had and lost, was dominion over the animals (Gen. 1:28). The Book of Revelation is clear that in heaven the saints will be kings/queens and reign (Rev. 20:4; 5:10; 22:5), and the question naturally arises: if all the saints are kings/queens, over whom will they reign? It seems plausible that the rule will be over the animal kingdom as in the Garden of Eden.

The Scriptures are clear regarding the tender place in God’s heart for the animals. The Book of Jonah ends with God’s concern for the animals of Nineveh. “‘Should not I pity Nineveh, that great city, in which there are more than 120,000 persons . . . and also much cattle’” (Jonah 4:11, ESV). Genesis 9:10 and Hosea 2:18 speak of God making a covenant with the animals. The Old Testament says the Sabbath was given not only for man, but also that the animals might rest (Ex. 23:12).

Part 2 below:

Salvation as we know it is only for sinners.
Animals are not descendants of Adam.
Animals are not sinners.

But? Why should we care?
God will have something much greater in eternity than animals we see today.
They will be for our everlasting pleasure and blessings.

And, another point.

WHICH IS THE POINT...

God desired to save man's soul for one reason.
For, man's soul?
Is the only kind of soul that was created in God's image. (Genesis 1:26-27)

The souls of animals are generic in nature. Their souls were not created in God's image.
That is why God can allow for us to kill, cook, and eat the animals for our nourishment.

Fret not.. In heaven God will have provided for us even greater loving companionship with perfectly created animals.

That's how I learned to see it.
The key in understanding was given when shown that man's soul alone was created in the Image of God.
Though angels were also created in God's image. They are spirits and not souls...

grace and peace.....

 

[MatthewG]

Just something that comes to mind.

“but, according as it hath been written, ‘What eye did not see, and ear did not hear, and upon the heart of man came not up, what God did prepare for those loving Him — ’ but to us did God reveal [them] through His Spirit, for the Spirit all things doth search, even the depths of God, for who of men hath known the things of the man, except the spirit of the man that [is] in him? so also the things of God no one hath known, except the Spirit of God. And we the spirit of the world did not receive, but the Spirit that [is] of God, that we may know the things conferred by God on us, which things also we speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Holy Spirit, with spiritual things spiritual things comparing, and the natural man doth not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for to him they are foolishness, and he is not able to know [them], because spiritually they are discerned; and he who is spiritual, doth discern indeed all things, and he himself is by no one discerned; for who did know the mind of the Lord that he shall instruct Him? and we — we have the mind of Christ.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭2‬:‭9‬-‭16‬ ‭YLT98‬‬



Cross References
Isaiah 64:4
From ancient times no one has heard, no ear has perceived, no eye has seen any God besides You, who acts on behalf of those who wait for Him.

Isaiah 65:17
For behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.

James 1:12
Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love Him.

 

[Peterlag]

Then instead of playing elusive word games, define what kind of being Jesus is. You know what I am asking, and it is simple to answer. You gave titles not being.

Is He angelic, human, Divine----what according to you?

No I don't know what you're looking for and I don't know what word games are. Nobody was like Jesus so what to you want me to say that he was? The Scriptures say he asked Peter who they believe he is and Peter said you are the Christ (which means the Messiah) the son of God. And Jesus told Peter that he was correct. What more do you want me to add to this? I can tell you who he was not. He's not just a man and he's not God.

 

[keithr]

You have explained your understanding, but it is radically different from what Paul wrote. Are yo more inspired than PAUL??

Ditto. Your understanding that we were "spiritually dead" is radically different from what Paul wrote ("You were dead in your trespasses and sins", Ephesians 2:1 - TLV).

Once again to disagree with your understanding means one does not understand the Scriptures and that is just not so!

Ditto.

Paul wrote very plainly

Did he? These verse don't seem very plain to me - 2 Corinthians 5:1-2 (KJV):

(1) For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.​

(2) For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:​

I think it's time to stop going round in circles. We disagree. You have stated what you believe; I have stated what I believe. There's no point repeating it over and over again.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No I don't know what you're looking for and I don't know what word games are. Nobody was like Jesus so what to you want me to say that he was? The Scriptures say he asked Peter who they believe he is and Peter said you are the Christ (which means the Messiah) the son of God. And Jesus told Peter that he was correct. What more do you want me to add to this? I can tell you who he was not. He's not just a man and he's not God.

Jesus preexisted HIs becoming a human. What kind of being was He? So if He is not just a man and He is not divine, what is He?

The bible explicitly declares He is absolute divinity so why do you disagree?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Ditto. Your understanding that we were "spiritually dead" is radically different from what Paul wrote ("You were dead in your trespasses and sins", Ephesians 2:1 - TLV).

NO, it is accepting what Paul wrote! Not having to reinterpret it to mean like what "your understanding" leads you to reinterpret the passage.

Ditto.

deep.

Did he? These verse don't seem very plain to me - 2 Corinthians 5:1-2 (KJV):

(1) For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.(2) For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

Sad you don't read further when Paul said when we as an individual is absent from our body we are present with the Lord. So there is a part of us that is alive and conscious that continues on after our bodiy dies. Sorry you do not think so until some future resurrection.

 

[Peterlag]

Jesus preexisted HIs becoming a human. What kind of being was He? So if He is not just a man and He is not divine, what is He?

The bible explicitly declares He is absolute divinity so why do you disagree?

Only in the mind of Catholics is he absolutely divine. Not in Scripture. You choose to believe the Catholics and that is why you believe what you do. The reason why the Catholics twisted this is because it wipes the Christ right out of the picture. They eliminated him by making him God.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Only in the mind of Catholics is he absolutely divine. Not in Scripture. You choose to believe the Catholics and that is why you believe what you do. The reason why the Catholics twisted this is because it wipes the Christ right out of the picture. They eliminated him by making him God.

And yet you refuse to declare what kind of being Jesus existed before becoming man and what kind of being He is now in heaven,

you are great at throwing out accusations, but hey are nothiing more than diversions and deflections from you answering the question at hand.

John 1:1

King James Version

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1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.

John 5:23
That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Revelation 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Jeremiah 32:18
Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the Lord of hosts, is his name,

Psalm 132:5
Until I find out a place for the Lord, an habitation for the mighty God of Jacob.

These are but a few that shows the Bible proves you wrong in your supposed infallibility of quoting Scripture.

 

[Peterlag]

And yet you refuse to declare what kind of being Jesus existed before becoming man and what kind of being He is now in heaven,

you are great at throwing out accusations, but hey are nothiing more than diversions and deflections from you answering the question at hand.

John 1:1​

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King James Version​

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1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.

John 5:23
That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Revelation 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Jeremiah 32:18
Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the Lord of hosts, is his name,

Psalm 132:5
Until I find out a place for the Lord, an habitation for the mighty God of Jacob.

These are but a few that shows the Bible proves you wrong in your supposed infallibility of quoting Scripture.

Refuse? I wrote a whole book as to what the Christ is now. What he was before he was a man you ask. Same as me. He was not here.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Refuse? I wrote a whole book as to what the Christ is now. What he was before he was a man you ask. Same as me. He was not here.

So then why don't you write the simple answer? What is He now?

 

[Peterlag]

So then why don't you write the simple answer? What is He now?

I don't write about a simple answer. I write about everything I can find that the Scriptures say the Christ is now.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I don't write about a simple answer. I write about everything I can find that the Scriptures say the Christ is now.

Well that is a polite way to avoid answering a question.




But let me help you. You can cut and paste this phrase and fill in the blank.

" After my extensive biblical research on the matter, I have come to the conclusion that in heaven Jesus is now......................"

Some options are ,glorified man, god-man, angel, seraph, cherub etc.etc.etc.

It is that simpe. YOu were able with one sentence to deny the deity of Jesus. YOu can do the same to identify what or who He is.

 

[Peterlag]

Well that is a polite way to avoid answering a question.




But let me help you. You can cut and paste this phrase and fill in the blank.

" After my extensive biblical research on the matter, I have come to the conclusion that in heaven Jesus is now......................"

Some options are ,glorified man, god-man, angel, seraph, cherub etc.etc.etc.

It is that simpe. YOu were able with one sentence to deny the deity of Jesus. YOu can do the same to identify what or who He is.

I will copy and paste from my own writings...

Jesus who is now the Christ is the one with the Authority...

Ephesians 1:22
And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,

Christ has become the Lord...

Philippians 2:11
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus is now the Christ...

Acts 2:36
Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Jesus now has the life...

1 John 5:11
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

Jesus has the faith...

1 Timothy 3:13
For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Jesus now has the grace...

2 Timothy 2:1
Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.

Jesus has the love...

1 Timothy 1:14
And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

Jesus is now the glorified one...

Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus;

Christ is the one who can now justify us...

Romans 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through through our Lord Jesus Christ:

Christ is the one who has our righteousness...

Romans 3:22
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe:

Christ is the one who has our redemption...

Romans 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Christ is the one who we are sanctified in...

1 Corinthians 1:2
Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

Christ is the ordained one to be the judge of both the dead and those who are alive...

Acts 10:42
And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

Christ is now the anointed one...

Acts 10:38
How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power:

Christ is a High Priest...

Hebrews 9:11-14
But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

Christ is now a mediator...

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Christ is an advocate...

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Christ is an intercessor...

Hebrews 7:25
Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Christ has been highly exalted...

Philippians 2:9
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

The purpose is now in Christ...

Ephesians 3:11
According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

The peace is in Christ...

Romans 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I will copy and paste from my own writings...

Jesus who is now the Christ is the one with the Authority...

Ephesians 1:22
And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,

Christ has become the Lord...

Philippians 2:11
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus is now the Christ...

Acts 2:36
Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Jesus now has the life...

1 John 5:11
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

Jesus has the faith...

1 Timothy 3:13
For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Jesus now has the grace...

2 Timothy 2:1
Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.

Jesus has the love...

1 Timothy 1:14
And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

Jesus is now the glorified one...

Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus;

Christ is the one who can now justify us...

Romans 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through through our Lord Jesus Christ:

Christ is the one who has our righteousness...

Romans 3:22
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe:

Christ is the one who has our redemption...

Romans 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Christ is the one who we are sanctified in...

1 Corinthians 1:2
Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

Christ is the ordained one to be the judge of both the dead and those who are alive...

Acts 10:42
And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

Christ is now the anointed one...

Acts 10:38
How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power:

Christ is a High Priest...

Hebrews 9:11-14
But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

Christ is now a mediator...

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Christ is an advocate...

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Christ is an intercessor...

Hebrews 7:25
Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Christ has been highly exalted...

Philippians 2:9
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

The purpose is now in Christ...

Ephesians 3:11
According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

The peace is in Christ...

Romans 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

All you did is say all things Jesus has become as titles and activities. but you did not say what kind of entity He is.

You deny He is divine so what is He??? merely man? Angelic? what? YOu know what is being asked, quit dodging the question. Or are you afraid of giving the answer?

I believe Jesus is absolute god and glorified man as to His essence. what say you.

 

[Peterlag]

All you did is say all things Jesus has become as titles and activities. but you did not say what kind of entity He is.

You deny He is divine so what is He??? merely man? Angelic? what? YOu know what is being asked, quit dodging the question. Or are you afraid of giving the answer?

I believe Jesus is absolute god and glorified man as to His essence. what say you.

You keep saying I know what is being asked like if I'm refusing to answer. You ask a stupid question that can't be answered. You can't compare Jesus to anyone. You can't say he's like a man. Mere man is what you use. I told you already he is the Messiah, a man approved of God, the son of God. You can't understand it so you accuse me of not answering.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You keep saying I know what is being asked like if I'm refusing to answer. You ask a stupid question that can't be answered. You can't compare Jesus to anyone. You can't say he's like a man. Mere man is what you use. I told you already he is the Messiah, a man approved of God, the son of God. You can't understand it so you accuse me of not answering.

Why don't you recognize HIs essence as the bible declares---God?