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This might be a little out there, even by unorthodox doctrine standards, but it's just something I've been musing over lately. There's a heavy dose of speculation involved, and I don't claim any of it to be emphatically true. It's more of a thought experiment than anything. I hold to the Enochian view that the sons of God were "angels" who commingled with human women and created a hybrid race of giants in Gen 6. I'm not here to debate if the Book of Enoch is true or not, but rather to speculate on the "what ifs.".

Obviously, the angelic view is nothing new. But the "what if" comes from identifying who the sons of God really are. They're not specifically called angels in Gen 6. I think a better term for them is "watchers," as Enoch and Daniel call them. From the various sources, the watchers job seemed to have been to watch over humanity, and some of them rebelled and actively manipulated humanity for their own personal desires. From Enoch and Jubilees, we gather they did genic experiments not only on humans but on animals. Hence, the reason for the flood. Humanity and nature itself had been corrupted.

Now, if they were able to manupulate genetics and conduct experiments, that would suggest they had some sort of technology. What other advanced technology might they have possessed? This is where it gets a little out there. We think of them as bright, glowing angelic beings, but what if they were not that at all? What if they are what our modern culture would think of as aliens? And no, I don't think they were from another planet per se; more on that in a bit. But I think it does leave room for the possibility that God created other beings of higher intelligence than just humans. Yes, there are angels, but "angels" is a very broad umberella term that doesn't really tell us much. There's simply a lot we don't know about God's creation or about our own prehistory, which leaves room for speculation. Maybe there are angels who look like we typically envision, but maybe there are others who look totally different.

I don't believe they are extra-terristral for two insurmountable reasons. The first is the issue of distance. Even traveling at the speed of light, a physical impossibility, it would take hundreds, if not thousands, of years to get here. Then you get into other problems such as time dilation, infinite energy requirements, infinite mass, collision hazards, radiation exposure, and so on. The other problem is, how would they even find us? There are so many planets and stars in our universe that it would be like finding one specific blue grain of sand in the Sahara Desert. True, we've been sending out radio signals for a little over a hundred years. But that's still a relatively short time, and radio signals don't go on forever through space. Eventually, they weaken and fade into cosmic background noise. One could speculate that they're so advanced they can create worm holes, which exist only in theory. But that starts getting into science fiction rather than science fact.

More than likely, they are extra-dimensional rather than extra-terrestrial. I would classify angels as extra-deminsional as they exist outside of our dimension but are able to enter our dimesion through what I presume to be portals. The prophet Ezikiel may have seen such a portal but could only describe it in a very limited way. As to what they may have looked like, that also takes a weird turn. What if the imagery of Satan being a dragon and serpent is not allegorical or symbolic at all? The four cherbiums mentioned in Ezekiel 10:14 had four faces: a cherub, a man, a lion, and an eagle. Revelation 4:7 mentions a calf. The calf represents domestic and prey animals. The man, of course, represents humanity. The lion represents predatory animals. The eagle repents the avian birds. Cherubs were guardians, and it appears there was one assigned to each of the kingdoms. What's missing is the retiple kindom. Was Satan a cherub over the reptile kingdom before his fall? I think it's possible. I find it interesting that in the Apocalypse of Abraham, Azazel, one of the fallen watchers, is described as having a face like a viper. Also, serpent motiffs show up quite a bit in ancient civilians, usually depicted as gods. There's much more that other people have written about that.

So, it just might be that the watchers actually had sereptine features, had some form of technology, and were tasked by God to watch over humanity, but they rebelled. As punishment, God destroyed their creation with a flood, and they were banished from our dimension. That brings up more questions: were they immortal? Have they been trying to find a way back? Will they reappear during the tribulation? Is this part of the great deception? I know this starts to veer off into the whole David Icke reptilian aliens thing, which I am not advocating for. Though it is interesting that many who have claimed to be abducted by aliens describe them as being reptilian. I don't know. I'm just saying, maybe there's a glimmer of truth there. Again, this is all wild speculation on my part, so, make of it what you will.
 

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Again, this is all wild speculation on my part, so, make of it what you will.
Yeah, but there's nothing here I'd point to and say, "no, that cannot be right."

Some speculate this way, and go a little further with it, thinking that "watcher DNA" inserted into humans will be involved in the mark of the beast. And that "the lie" of 2 Thessalonians 2 will be, "you can become like God" by doing this.

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Yeah, but there's nothing here I'd point to and say, "no, that cannot be right."

Some speculate this way, and go a little further with it, thinking that "watcher DNA" inserted into humans will be involved in the mark of the beast. And that "the lie" of 2 Thessalonians 2 will be, "you can become like God" by doing this.

Much love!
I am one who fears this possibility. As there is a lot of satanism in these positions of power. And it fits with Satan's mocking of God's word. So there is motive and operatunity.
 

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This might be a little out there, even by unorthodox doctrine standards, but it's just something I've been musing over lately. There's a heavy dose of speculation involved, and I don't claim any of it to be emphatically true. It's more of a thought experiment than anything. I hold to the Enochian view that the sons of God were "angels" who commingled with human women and created a hybrid race of giants in Gen 6. I'm not here to debate if the Book of Enoch is true or not, but rather to speculate on the "what ifs.".

Obviously, the angelic view is nothing new. But the "what if" comes from identifying who the sons of God really are. They're not specifically called angels in Gen 6. I think a better term for them is "watchers," as Enoch and Daniel call them. From the various sources, the watchers job seemed to have been to watch over humanity, and some of them rebelled and actively manipulated humanity for their own personal desires. From Enoch and Jubilees, we gather they did genic experiments not only on humans but on animals. Hence, the reason for the flood. Humanity and nature itself had been corrupted.

Now, if they were able to manupulate genetics and conduct experiments, that would suggest they had some sort of technology. What other advanced technology might they have possessed? This is where it gets a little out there. We think of them as bright, glowing angelic beings, but what if they were not that at all? What if they are what our modern culture would think of as aliens? And no, I don't think they were from another planet per se; more on that in a bit. But I think it does leave room for the possibility that God created other beings of higher intelligence than just humans. Yes, there are angels, but "angels" is a very broad umberella term that doesn't really tell us much. There's simply a lot we don't know about God's creation or about our own prehistory, which leaves room for speculation. Maybe there are angels who look like we typically envision, but maybe there are others who look totally different.

I don't believe they are extra-terristral for two insurmountable reasons. The first is the issue of distance. Even traveling at the speed of light, a physical impossibility, it would take hundreds, if not thousands, of years to get here. Then you get into other problems such as time dilation, infinite energy requirements, infinite mass, collision hazards, radiation exposure, and so on. The other problem is, how would they even find us? There are so many planets and stars in our universe that it would be like finding one specific blue grain of sand in the Sahara Desert. True, we've been sending out radio signals for a little over a hundred years. But that's still a relatively short time, and radio signals don't go on forever through space. Eventually, they weaken and fade into cosmic background noise. One could speculate that they're so advanced they can create worm holes, which exist only in theory. But that starts getting into science fiction rather than science fact.

More than likely, they are extra-dimensional rather than extra-terrestrial. I would classify angels as extra-deminsional as they exist outside of our dimension but are able to enter our dimesion through what I presume to be portals. The prophet Ezikiel may have seen such a portal but could only describe it in a very limited way. As to what they may have looked like, that also takes a weird turn. What if the imagery of Satan being a dragon and serpent is not allegorical or symbolic at all? The four cherbiums mentioned in Ezekiel 10:14 had four faces: a cherub, a man, a lion, and an eagle. Revelation 4:7 mentions a calf. The calf represents domestic and prey animals. The man, of course, represents humanity. The lion represents predatory animals. The eagle repents the avian birds. Cherubs were guardians, and it appears there was one assigned to each of the kingdoms. What's missing is the retiple kindom. Was Satan a cherub over the reptile kingdom before his fall? I think it's possible. I find it interesting that in the Apocalypse of Abraham, Azazel, one of the fallen watchers, is described as having a face like a viper. Also, serpent motiffs show up quite a bit in ancient civilians, usually depicted as gods. There's much more that other people have written about that.

So, it just might be that the watchers actually had sereptine features, had some form of technology, and were tasked by God to watch over humanity, but they rebelled. As punishment, God destroyed their creation with a flood, and they were banished from our dimension. That brings up more questions: were they immortal? Have they been trying to find a way back? Will they reappear during the tribulation? Is this part of the great deception? I know this starts to veer off into the whole David Icke reptilian aliens thing, which I am not advocating for. Though it is interesting that many who have claimed to be abducted by aliens describe them as being reptilian. I don't know. I'm just saying, maybe there's a glimmer of truth there. Again, this is all wild speculation on my part, so, make of it what you will.
There is a distinction between angels and demons. When a half angel dies it becomes a disembodied demon doomed to walk the arid places due to the angelic seed. So I'm more inclined to believe that aliens are a form of half-angel, half genetically engineered something.
 

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Yeah, but there's nothing here I'd point to and say, "no, that cannot be right."

Some speculate this way, and go a little further with it, thinking that "watcher DNA" inserted into humans will be involved in the mark of the beast. And that "the lie" of 2 Thessalonians 2 will be, "you can become like God" by doing this.

Much love!
I think you might be right...
Gen 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

Does perfect in his generations mean Noah had proper DNA?
 

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I think you might be right...
Gen 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

Does perfect in his generations mean Noah had proper DNA?
That's what it seems to me, but I don't know enough to have certainty. Things could get pretty weird!

I'm sure I'm not the only one who's been noticing the rise of bizarre attacks, murders, mutilations, it seems the demonic possessions are becoming more overt or something.

Much love!
 

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Looking up the etymology of the word, 'dragon.' I found its root is: "To look, or to see."

Satan, aka the dragon, was known as leader of the watchers in the book of Enoch... Coincidence?
 
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I am one who fears this possibility. As there is a lot of satanism in these positions of power. And it fits with satan's mocking of God's word. So there is motive and operatunity.

Yep so there's something up with the mark of the beast to cause Jesus to say those that take the mark are permanently lost can will go to hell.... as in cannot be saved after taking the mark


Does perfect in his generations mean Noah had proper DNA?

Apparently... He and His family were the only ones the Lord saved, so he was obviously in right standing with the Lord and the rest of earth's population was not.

It's also interesting that the Lord commanded all animals be brought on to the Ark... but not the dinosaurs
 
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Yep so there's something up with the mark of the beast to cause Jesus to say those that take the mark are permanently lost can will go to hell.... as in cannot be saved after taking the mark
Yes, it is a convenient explanation for both God's unwillingness to forgive those who receive the mark. As the watchers are not going to be forgiven, and it is probably the same for demons.

It also explains the strange inability to die for those who receive the mark.
 

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Creation is everything everyone ever believed, made manifest by God; a presentation of evidence of what was before the foundation of the world, before the Judgement.

Which means many wildly imagined things: A world thousands of years old, but also millions or billions, depending on the evidence one believes; blessing and cursing; things only limited by passion, and also the sum of all fears; horrors, and transcendent beauty; etc.
 

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Looking up the etymology of the word, 'dragon.' I found its root is: "To look, or to see."

Satan, aka the dragon, was known as leader of the watchers in the book of Enoch... Coincidence?

I've actually done a deep dive into dragons for something I'm working on. You can trace the origin of all dragon mythos back to Mesopotamia, the cradle of civilization. In their pantheon of gods, there is a female primordial sea serpent deity called Tiamat who represents chaos. She is basically the precursor of all dragon lore that proceeds her. In fact, Leviathan in the Bible basically mirrors Tiamat, as does Satan for that matter.

Dragon mythology appears universally in all ancient cultures around the globe. What's really interesting is they all share common themes that fit Lucifer and The Watchers perfectly. Dragons are almost always associated with water (the deep, i.e., chaos), just as Leviathan. They all have the appearance of serpents and sometimes a hybrid mix of physical characteristics. In some legends, they impart knowledge, just like the Watchers. Some dragons are wise and benevolent acting guardians and protectors (likely the role of Lucifer before his fall). Other dragons are malevolent chaotic creatures bent on evil. In many dragon mythologies, there is a grand cosmic battle that ends in the dragon’s destruction.

It's also interesting that the Lord commanded all animals be brought on to the Ark... but not the dinosaurs

Dinosaurs may have been extinct by that time. Regardless, there is an interesting theory that dinosaurs were the result of corruption, either by Lucifer's fall or maybe even the Watchers. There's certainly many connections with Lucifer (Satan) and reptiles/serpents.
 
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Dinosaurs may have been extinct by that time. Regardless, there is an interesting theory that dinosaurs were the result of corruption, either by lucifer's fall or maybe even the Watchers. There's certainly many connections with lucifer (satan) and reptiles/serpents.

Yes, I've heard some of the folks that study all this stuff claim dinosaurs may not have been created by God and instead came from satan which would explain why they would not have been taken on to the Ark

Most of this history stuff is somewhat interesting but it's a side bar considering what the future holds.
 
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I've actually done a deep dive into dragons for something I'm working on. You can trace the origin of all dragon mythos back to Mesopotamia, the cradle of civilization. In their pantheon of gods, there is a female primordial sea serpent deity called Tiamat who represents chaos. She is basically the precursor of all dragon lore that proceeds her. In fact, Leviathan in the Bible basically mirrors Tiamat, as does Satan for that matter.

Dragon mythology appears universally in all ancient cultures around the globe. What's really interesting is they all share common themes that fit Lucifer and The Watchers perfectly. Dragons are almost always associated with water (the deep, i.e., chaos), just as Leviathan. They all have the appearance of serpents and sometimes a hybrid mix of physical characteristics. In some legends, they impart knowledge, just like the Watchers. Some dragons are wise and benevolent acting guardians and protectors (likely the role of Lucifer before his fall). Other dragons are malevolent chaotic creatures bent on evil. In many dragon mythologies, there is a grand cosmic battle that ends in the dragon’s destruction.



Dinosaurs may have been extinct by that time. Regardless, there is an interesting theory that dinosaurs were the result of corruption, either by Lucifer's fall or maybe even the Watchers. There's certainly many connections with Lucifer (Satan) and reptiles/serpents.
Yes, I suspect the sea was symbolic of a greater abyss.
 
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It's good to see others who realize how bad it's going to get.

That brings up more questions: were they immortal?

Once they left their first estate, they said goodbye to immortality.

Have they been trying to find a way back?

The Bible teaches that the Giants were here after the flood. Maybe they are still around.

Will they reappear during the tribulation?

I believe the 'falling away' are the fallen angels that will rebel in the future.

Is this part of the great deception?

Absolutely.

I know this starts to veer off into the whole David Icke reptilian aliens thing, which I am not advocating for. Though it is interesting that many who have claimed to be abducted by aliens describe them as being reptilian.

The wives that the Sons of God 'chose' were basically taken against their will, worse than rape. One could call it an abduction.

I don't know. I'm just saying, maybe there's a glimmer of truth there. Again, this is all wild speculation on my part, so, make of it what you will.

It's sad that you have to put all of these disclaimers into your post due to the fact that most Christians are completely blind to what the Bible really teaches regarding interdimensional beings. After years of trying to have intelligent discussions on this topic, it's clear that most are simply to fearful to handle any type of conversation on the matter. They basically have a meltdown and go into cognitive dissonance mode. They then bully the rest of us trying to wake people up. Christians are often their own worst enemy. All Satan has to do it sit back, relax and let Christians do his work for him.
 
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Just a bit too much... speculation for me. And I don't mind speculation if it is truely Bible-based.

Ezekiel 1 is actually describing an angelic vehicle. The phrase 'color of amber' per Strong's defintion of the Hebrew means 'highy polished bronze, spectral metal'. Ezekiel is doing his best to describe what he saw, having limited objects on earth to compare it with. The objects when they went, they turned not, which suggests circular craft, which when they turn they don't point to where they are going, they just go. Ezekiel said they all went together, like in formation. The Phoenix Lights in 1997, those objects were seen slowly moving in formation, like a V flight pattern.

The majority of the whole world is going to be shocked with what is soon coming upon this earth. Revelation 12:7-11 reveals a war in Heaven between Archangel Michael and his angels vs. Satan and his angels is getting ready to happen. It then says there will no more be a place found for Satan and his angels in Heaven. That means they are going to be kicked out of the heavenly dimension, and instead into OUR earthly dimension, right here on earth, in plain sight. Those who don't believe God's Word when pointing to that heavenly realm, or to angels, will be deceived the worse. God created the angels also with the image of man, because that image originates from God's Own Image Likeness per Genesis 1:26-27.

Thus the angels don't really look like monsters, or reptiles, etc. They look just like us. Even Hebrews 13 tells us to be mindful to entertain strangers, because some have entertained angels and didn't know it. The idea of big wings on their backs actually comes from old artist renderings in paintings used to make sure one distinguished a flesh man from a heavenly being.

I refer to the story made into the movie Communion with the actor Christopher Walken. The author who wrote the book witnessed those events in upstate New York in a vacation cabin he owned. The aliens visited him and his family, and even said he was allowed one time to go aboard their craft. He then asked them who they really were. And they shape-shifted right before his eyes. Then he said to them something like, "you're not going to show me who you really are, are you?" That suggests Satan's angels can appear however they want us to see them. But still, per God's Word, He created them also with the image of man like us, which is what they really look like.

Thus I believe the Reptillian descriptions, etc., are just a hoax devised to keep the majority off the Bible track.

As for their technology, and their vehilcles, today's aeorspace sciences are experimenting with the concept of anti-gravity. Some researchers suggest that if the gravity element can be overcome, the speed of light is no longer a limitation. Einstein proved that the speed of light is actually not a constant like was once thought. The aerospace field is experimenting with hypersonic speeds in a standard atmosphere (not outerspace), speeds much greater than supersonic, like Mach 10 or 11. The speed of sound at sea level is around 761 mph, which is Mach 1. So Mach 10 at sea level is 10 x 761 mph, or 7,610 mph. The NASA X-43 flew Mach 9.6 in 2004. But if the effect of gravity is not present, speed is actually not involved.

From film I've seen shown of supposed UFO's, how they moved, they were not limited to the earth's physical limitations at all; it was as if they were existing in another field, or dimension other than earth. I believe they were operating in between dimensions, like in between our earthly dimension and the heavenly dimension. That might be why they suddenly would disappear, and just as suddenly re-appear. It's been suggested that the earth's gravity does not affect their flight, and they may exist in some kind of protective field that also eliminates drag and air effects, thus no resistence to speed.
 
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I have a working theory that the Watchers were/are corporal entities and distinct from the angels we typically think of in the Bible. "Angels" is kind of a generic term that really doesn't tell us much. We lump all angels together, but who's to say God didn't create a plethora of angels that are distinct and separate from one another? Perhaps some are incorporeal and some are corporeal, existing in another realm or dimension from our own. Perhaps from our 21st-century vantage we may perceive them more as aliens than angels, but they were still created by God and had a relationship with Him like Adam before his fall. According to Enoch, they were tasked with observing and guiding humanity before their rebellion. I'm certainly not the first to suggest such a thing, but I have coalesced my ideas into a short book I hope to have up on Amazon soon.
 

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I have a working theory that the Watchers were/are corporal entities and distinct from the angels we typically think of in the Bible. "Angels" is kind of a generic term that really doesn't tell us much. We lump all angels together, but who's to say God didn't create a plethora of angels that are distinct and separate from one another? Perhaps some are incorporeal and some are corporeal, existing in another realm or dimension from our own. Perhaps from our 21st-century vantage we may perceive them more as aliens than angels, but they were still created by God and had a relationship with Him like Adam before his fall. According to Enoch, they were tasked with observing and guiding humanity before their rebellion. I'm certainly not the first to suggest such a thing, but I have coalesced my ideas into a short book I hope to have up on Amazon soon.

Sounds too much like Hollywood, and not The Bible.

1. there exists only two... different dimensions of existence per God's written Word, this earthly one we live in, and the Heavenly one where God's Abode is, as also where ALL the angelic host lives, including the pit of hell.

2. the "sons of God" in the Book of Job and in Genesis 6 refer to angels. In Genesis 6 that title refers only to Satan's angels, and it does not specify if they were the angels that Satan drew to earth with him at his original rebellion per Rev.12:3-4. Those Genesis 6 angels are locked in the pit awaiting God's Judgment. That means Satan's angels that will be booted out of heavenly when the future war in Heaven of Rev.12:7 happens, are a different group of Satan's angels. All angels still though, and not a different specie of heavenly host.

3. angels can, and have, appeared on earth with the image of man. There is nothing written that shows they had to put on a flesh body in order to appear in our earthly dimension with that image of man.

4. the image of man originates from GOD's OWN outward Likeness and Image (per Genesis 1:26-27).

5. when all still alive on earth literally see... Jesus Christ returning in the clouds, in the future, the veil of this present flesh world dimension will be removed for all. The heavenly dimension will be joined with this earthly dimension, as it was once before, since Genesis 2 reveals God's Garden of Eden was once here upon this earth, and He walked in that Garden on earth.
 

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Thanks for the comments. I enjoy this type of discussion even if we don't always agree.

Sounds too much like Hollywood, and not The Bible.

To the atheist, what we believe is fantastical too. We believe a man walked on water and rose from the dead, why is that any more a stretch?

1. there exists only two... different dimensions of existence per God's written Word, this earthly one we live in, and the Heavenly one where God's Abode is, as also where ALL the angelic host lives, including the pit of hell.

We can't know that for sure. The Bible doesn't tell us everything about the inner workings beyond of our little reality. There's more that we don't know than we do know.

2. the "sons of God" in the Book of Job and in Genesis 6 refer to angels. In Genesis 6 that title refers only to Satan's angels, and it does not specify if they were the angels that Satan drew to earth with him at his original rebellion per Rev.12:3-4. Those Genesis 6 angels are locked in the pit awaiting God's Judgment. That means Satan's angels that will be booted out of heavenly when the future war in Heaven of Rev.12:7 happens, are a different group of Satan's angels. All angels still though, and not a different specie of heavenly host.

I agree the "sons of God" of Gen 6 are angels, I'm just trying to define what that entails. What is your take on the Book of Enoch? Do you believe it is connected to Gen 6?

3. angels can, and have, appeared on earth with the image of man. There is nothing written that shows they had to put on a flesh body in order to appear in our earthly dimension with that image of man.

They could be seen, they could be touched, they sat down an ate a meal. The latter would necessitate a digestive system. If you believe the "sons of God" in Gen 6 were angels, how could they not be corporeal and take wives for themselves?
 

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To the atheist, what we believe is fantastical too. We believe a man walked on water and rose from the dead, why is that any more a stretch?

It's because either we stay... in God's Word, or we leave the Truth in favor of something else. God's Word goes a whole lot deeper with explaining things than what most think.

We can't know that for sure. The Bible doesn't tell us everything about the inner workings beyond of our little reality. There's more that we don't know than we do know.

Well yes, we can... know for sure there are only 2 different dimensions of existence, because that is all that is written of in all of God's Word. One who holds to Eastern religions may grow up believing there are many, many different planes of existence, different dimensions, but God's Word only speaks of two, and that's it. So either we accept what God's Word teaches, or we default to errors from man's babel philosophy. (And I studied ancient philosophy and religion in my young years before I became a Christian.)

When Lord Jesus said in the prayer He gave us about God's Will be done, "as in heaven, so in earth", He was showing us a type pattern related to both dimensions of existence. For example, in the Heavenly dimension where God's Abode is, there is a place of separation where the abode of the wicked is. Likewise here on earth, we have prisons that are in places of separation from regular society. Satan's pit prison isn't in a whole different dimension by itself; it is in the heavenly dimension which is made up of Spirit (the Rev.12:7-11 events prove this, which has not happened yet). And Hebrews 11:3 reveals the heavenly dimension of Spirit is what actually created our earthly dimension of material matter. Thus there are more parallels between the two dimensions than one might think.

I agree the "sons of God" of Gen 6 are angels, I'm just trying to define what that entails. What is your take on the Book of Enoch? Do you believe it is connected to Gen 6?

I assume you're speaking of the Ethiopic Enoch version. Yes, I believe the book of Enoch is connected to the events of Genesis 6. I don't believe the 300 ft. tall translation though for the great stature of the hybrid-giants. Skeletal remains found in burial mounds go as large as around 12 - 13 feet tall. The Pawnee Indian that brought a large femur bone into the camp of Buffalo Bill claimed three times the size of normal man, which would be around 18 ft. (see the autobiography by Buffalo Bill.)

They could be seen, they could be touched, they sat down an ate a meal. The latter would necessitate a digestive system. If you believe the "sons of God" in Gen 6 were angels, how could they not be corporeal and take wives for themselves?

The Book of Jude gives us more clues...


Jude 6-7
6 And the angels which
kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
KJV


The Greek for the word "habitation" suggests they changed their manifestation on earth somehow. That only leads to speculation though.

Per Genesis 18, Abraham prepared food and drink for The LORD and the two angels that appeared with Him. And those two angels were sent to Lot in the next Chapter, and Lot also prepared food for them and they did eat. Lord Jesus stayed behind speaking with Abraham per the Gen.18 Chapter.

Therefore, was Lord Jesus and those two angels in flesh bodies in order to eat the food prepared for them? I say no. Lord Jesus had not yet been born in the flesh when that Old Testament event happened. What this means is that we must... modify our understanding of what the spirit body actually is, and how it can manifest and live upon this earth, instead of believing Hollywood's fake movies about ghosts and such.

Afterall, the last verse of Ezekiel, and Revelation 21 reveals that the full Godhead is going to eventually return to this earth to live with us in His future Eternity. And Apostle Paul did teach that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption (1 Cor.15:50).