Why I Am a Trinitarian: Part Two

[The Learner]

https://www.calvarychapelboston.com/Biblical Basis Trinity Bowman.pdf

 

[The Learner]

Well, that is a gigantic reach. To paraphrase Scalia, the Scriptures say what they say and they don't say what they don't say. Going beyond the protective word of God in ANY way goes against Mark 7:13, including most especially rationalizations to violate the 1C.



There you go again! Inventing concepts not in Scripture to fit your doctrine. "Oneness" is not a means by which Jews who reject the trinity to this day, embrace the trinity. Remember, Jesus is the Jewish Messiah, born under the law and there is no evidence he ever stopped being Jewish.

"Oneness" means nothing more than 'being on the same page;' it never meant multiple Beings literally being 1 Being. Consider this is why Jesus said he has a God and his God is the only true God. This is not what one would say if the trinitarian principle of "Oneness" applied.

https://www.calvarychapelboston.com/Biblical Basis Trinity Bowman.pdf

 

[Wrangler]

Here is an outline of where the Bible Teaches the Trinity.

Welcome to the forum.

Have you ever wondered why the answer is so long, an outline, reference to another site? It's because the trinity is not in the Bible, not the word and not the concept. To avoid the inevitable Appeal to Strawman, there simply is no verse that reads something like The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit who are co-equal, co-substantial and co-eternal - and if you do not believe this, you cannot be saved but are damned to hell forever. If there were such a verse, it would be the most quoted verse in Scripture by those who claim one’s salvation depends on believing it. The concept of the trinity is so important that in 66 books, it is not mentioned once!

Rather than abandon this obvious 1st-Commandment-violating idol, trinitarians resort to ignoring or subordinating explicit teachings in Scripture to inferences (reading their doctrine into the non-trinitarian text), dualism and mystical artificial synthesis. Using such tactics, any doctrine can be 'supported' in linking so many verses.

 

[Matthias]

Now that the policy on discussing the Trinity has been revised to allow it - I wonder if those responsible for the change are regretting it yet? - I’d like to hear more of your reasoning @RedFan.

 

[RedFan]

Now that the policy on discussing the Trinity has been revised to allow it - I wonder if those responsible for the change are regretting it yet? - I’d like to hear more of your reasoning @RedFan.

Thanks. I have started a new thread on the subject.

 

[Matthias]

Thanks. I have started a new thread on the subject.

Did you start your new thread in a forum where I’m allowed to post?

 

[RedFan]

Did you start your new thread in a forum where I’m allowed to post?

Christian Debate Forum, "Exploring Trinitarian Logic."

 

[Matthias]

Christian Debate Forum, "Exploring Trinitarian Logic."

Thanks. I’m not allowed to comment or ask any questions in that forum but I’ll be able to read it.

 

[Matthias]

Thanks. I’m not allowed to comment or ask any questions in that forum but I’ll be able to read it.

Needs more you @RedFan; less them.

 

[Matthias]

At some point a good boy has to walk away from the pretty girl who only has eyes for the bad boys.

 

[Matthias]

Christian Debate Forum, "Exploring Trinitarian Logic."

Born: December 8, 2024

Died: February 3, 2025

I extend my condolences to you.

Post mortem analysis. Too soon?

You’re the father of the dead thread. In its short but volatile life, did it accomplish your purpose?

 

[APAK]

Born: December 8, 2024

Died: February 3, 2025

I extend my condolences to you.

Post mortem analysis. Too soon?

You’re the father of the dead thread. In its short but volatile life, did it accomplish your purpose?

How a bout starting up Part II - 'Exploring Trinitarian Logic, on steroids!!

Let the games begin....

 

[The Learner]

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