Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

[face2face]

It means what it says…
Christ is the Head of “His newly Established Church”…and “it’s newly Established Members”…. (JEWS and GENTILES)
….WHO have “Received” Their SALVATION, Before Physical Death…
* Are Baptized By the Lamb.
*. no one can TAKE From Christ.
* The Lord Shall RAISE up (Rapture), those Body’s.

And the the Head of the Physically Dead Faithful Israelites…and continuing Living ISRAELITES and Gentiles who Physically Die Believing IN God, IN Jesus’ Existence…
Shall After Physical Death…
* Be Baptized By God.
* no one can TAKE them From God.
* God Shall Raise Them up After the millennial Reign…(First Resurrection).

No, God did NOT “create” Christ Jesus

* God Creates AND Makes (possibilities) For His Creations.
* God … Foretells…Knowledge
* God … Establishes…Descriptions, Names, Titles.
* God … Reveals…
* And “IF”…an Individual…(Believes, Commits his Belief…)
* That individual
* WITH Christ…WILL…Receive his Salvation…
AND Understanding…Before Physical Death…
OR
* WITH God …WILL…Receive his Salvation AND Understanding…After Physical Death.
….WITH neither…?
* WILL…Receive Understanding AFTER Death…Believe…And “According TO their lifetime compiled and recorded “Evidence”and “Judgement per the Evidence”…
Be sentenced to Damnation…eternal destruction and separation From God.

Everything Was Created AND Made By, through, Of God…in 6 Days.

The Re-MAKING …of what has Become Corrupt… Is Offered…and ….FEW Accept and enjoy the Benefit.

God did NOT… create…or make…His Existence…His Word, His Power, His Wisdom, His Light, His Seed, etc.
But God DID REVEAL…and IDENTIFY…His Word, Power, Wisdom, Light, Seed, etc. with Names, Titles, Descriptions God Established…and Revealed the Knowledge …to Whom and WHEN, According to God ORDER and Way.

Glory to God,
Taken

When he returns I hope you will come to know he is the beginning of the Creation of God.

The pièce de résistance!

And when or if you ever discover that truth you will remember these conversations and know you missed it.

F2F

 

[Taken]

The question is how did he exist?


F2F

You and others have repeatedly been answered…this wondering question.

God OPENED His Mouth and His Word came Forth out of His Mouth.
Same for mankind…called…God Said, or man Said.

(Because God maintains Believing His Word…His Word that comes Forth, Continues to Remain IN God, IS God).

Same for manKind…who speaks his word remains IN him.

UNLIKE…God…God IS a SPIRIT, manKIND, is not A Spirit.

LIKE…God…ManKIND has A spirit (called the Truth in his Heart)
God Has SEVERAL Spirits (all derived from His One Same Spirit)

Men WHO Become “converted”…ARE Promised to “Receive THEN”…
* Gods “Spirit of TRUTH”…with and IN them.
* Gods Seed…with and IN them.
* Their natural Truth (in their Heart)(regarding heavenly things)…Circumcised…Re-Born…with Gods Seed, Gods Truth.

Does that individual Receive ….All of Gods Several “Spirits” With Them?
No…NEVER…ALL.
One or Several of Gods Spirits?…Yes that IS Possible…but Never ALL.

All Of Gods “ Several Spirits”…Belong…To GOD…Himself…It is His Power. His Glory, He “gives” (the totality”)TO no one.

Study OF the Spirits OF God… your option to learn and believe or not.

Study OF Gods foretelling, God Establishing of Names, Titles, Descriptions For Himself. And God Establishing by His Declarations…His Authotity…your option to learn and believe or not.

It is when men have Not read, Not studied, Do not Understand…WANT “answers” to things they are not yet “prepared” to “receive”.

That is “common place” in today’ widely “accepted”…society…via “Pushing little children” in…daily discussions of Sex, drugs, decision making…beyond the scope of their preparation….is a fail.

So also is it a fail…for a man to understand heavenly things, without preparation to receive the understanding.

Gods Word came forth out of Gods Mouth.
God called His Word …God…Son of man…Son of God…Life…Truth…Way…Nazarene…Jew…Teacher…High Priest…without ancestors…without Beginning…without Ending…Power…Wisdom…All knowing…Savior…Good Shepherd…Salvation…Spirit, Everlasting Father…Mighty God…CHRIST…Quickener…Judge…JESUS…KING of kings, LORD of Lords…On and on…God Himself.
God Himself.

No one can Hear, Read, Learn, Study, Understand FOR You.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[David in NJ]

It wasn't about Godhood and notice it doesn't say Israelites. hint hint

Some people believe in an 'intellectual' salvation, whereby they 'think' they 'know' and equate that with God
This is another great deception formulated by satan = SEE Genesis chapter 3

However, God does not accept man's intellect as it is corrupted and cannot ascend to His Kingdom.

It has been and always will be a 'heart-condition' that leads a man to HELL or to HEAVEN.

The heart is deceitful above all things,
And desperately wicked;
Who can know it?
I, the Lord, search the heart,
I test the mind,
Even to give every man according to his ways,
According to the fruit of his doings.

Then Peter answered and said to Him, “Explain this parable to us.”

So Jesus said, “Are you also still without understanding? Do you not yet understand that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and is eliminated? But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man.
For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. These are the things which defile a man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man.”

There is only one Remedy that can SAVE a man = the Word that was God in the Beginning = the LORD Jesus Christ

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

 

[amigo de christo]

Some people believe in an 'intellectual' salvation, whereby they 'think' they 'know' and equate that with God
This is another great deception formulated by satan = SEE Genesis chapter 3

However, God does not accept man's intellect as it is corrupted and cannot ascend to His Kingdom.

It has been and always will be a 'heart-condition' that leads a man to HELL or to HEAVEN.

The heart is deceitful above all things,
And desperately wicked;
Who can know it?
I, the Lord, search the heart,
I test the mind,
Even to give every man according to his ways,
According to the fruit of his doings.

Then Peter answered and said to Him, “Explain this parable to us.”

So Jesus said, “Are you also still without understanding? Do you not yet understand that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and is eliminated? But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man.
For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. These are the things which defile a man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man.”

There is only one Remedy that can SAVE a man = the Word that was God in the Beginning = the LORD Jesus Christ

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

the heart of man twists doctrine unto its own destruction . At most it serves only a god of its own making that pleases its flesh .
The heart of lamb , changed by GOD , loveth TRUTH and Knows that EVERY WORD of GOD IS TRUTH .
It alters not the truth of scriptures but rather loves and embraces the truth .
Many mold a god unto their own loving and that god cannot deliver them or save them . another jesus saves not .
And any version of Jesus that omits truth , OH IT AINT JESUS at all .
KEEP marching on my friend . many no likey the GOD inspired scriptures in the bible . But the sheep sup upon
the lovely words of truth and shall not sip the cup of a harlot .

 

[amigo de christo]

When he returns I hope you will come to know he is the beginning of the Creation of God.

The pièce de résistance!

And when or if you ever discover that truth you will remember these conversations and know you missed it.

F2F

WHEN HE RETURNS all who loved and made a lie will weep and wail .
All who followed interfaith co exist finding common ground will weep and shall wail .
Many follow another jesus , another god , one presented by darkness and has fed their lustful hearts desires .
THAT ONE CANNOT SAVE .
I suggest we all do us an exodus outta such places
I suggest a massive ENTRODUS back into THE BIBLE .

 

[amigo de christo]

Some people believe in an 'intellectual' salvation, whereby they 'think' they 'know' and equate that with God
This is another great deception formulated by satan = SEE Genesis chapter 3

However, God does not accept man's intellect as it is corrupted and cannot ascend to His Kingdom.

It has been and always will be a 'heart-condition' that leads a man to HELL or to HEAVEN.

The heart is deceitful above all things,
And desperately wicked;
Who can know it?
I, the Lord, search the heart,
I test the mind,
Even to give every man according to his ways,
According to the fruit of his doings.

Then Peter answered and said to Him, “Explain this parable to us.”

So Jesus said, “Are you also still without understanding? Do you not yet understand that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and is eliminated? But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man.
For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. These are the things which defile a man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man.”

There is only one Remedy that can SAVE a man = the Word that was God in the Beginning = the LORD Jesus Christ

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

The call has been made , the cry has been given , COME YE OUT FROM AMONGST HER lest ye partake of her sins
and recieve of her plagues . FOR STRONG IS THE LORD GOD who shall judge the WHORE who by means
of finding common ground interfaith has promised this people PEACE n safety .
THough hand join in hand , denomination with denomination and with the false religoins of the world
believingthey serve a God of love , THERE SHALL BE NO PEACE unto the wicked , THEY DENIED
THE ONLYONE who COULD have reconciled them to GOD and give them the PEACE of GOD .
They have said within their hearts , WHERE IS THIS BIBLICAL JESUS , HE HAS been gone a long time
come let us make us a golden bull of interfaith , let us make our own love god and serve him and our lusts .
As in the days of moses when he had long ascended up and had not returned
the peoples did an evil thing
And in that mountain MOSES had made intercession for the people
but when he returned delivered wrath upon the ungodly .
SO TOO Shall the SON OF MAN DO ON HIS DAY when HE cOMETH to deliver the WRATH OF GOD
against all who danced to the song of another god and had done so even in the name of JESUS . Woe wail
to the many on that day . TO the many who used the name of JESUS to serve sin
and to sell a lie that its not necessary to have BELEIVED ON HIM . WOE wail to them all . FOLKS had better repentfast
and get in the bible real quickly to learn for themselves .

 

[Marvelloustime]

the heart of man twists doctrine unto its own destruction . At most it serves only a god of its own making that pleases its flesh .
The heart of lamb , changed by GOD , loveth TRUTH and Knows that EVERY WORD of GOD IS TRUTH .
It alters not the truth of scriptures but rather loves and embraces the truth .
Many mold a god unto their own loving and that god cannot deliver them or save them . another jesus saves not .
And any version of Jesus that omits truth , OH IT AINT JESUS at all .
KEEP marching on my friend . many no likey the GOD inspired scriptures in the bible . But the sheep sup upon
the lovely words of truth and shall not sip the cup of a harlot .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

The call has been made , the cry has been given , COME YE OUT FROM AMONGST HER lest ye partake of her sins
and recieve of her plagues . FOR STRONG IS THE LORD GOD who shall judge the WHORE who by means
of finding common ground interfaith has promised this people PEACE n safety .
THough hand join in hand , denomination with denomination and with the false religoins of the world
believingthey serve a God of love , THERE SHALL BE NO PEACE unto the wicked , THEY DENIED
THE ONLYONE who COULD have reconciled them to GOD and give them the PEACE of GOD .
They have said within their hearts , WHERE IS THIS BIBLICAL JESUS , HE HAS been gone a long time
come let us make us a golden bull of interfaith , let us make our own love god and serve him and our lusts .
As in the days of moses when he had long ascended up and had not returned
the peoples did an evil thing
And in that mountain MOSES had made intercession for the people
but when he returned delivered wrath upon the ungodly .
SO TOO Shall the SON OF MAN DO ON HIS DAY when HE cOMETH to deliver the WRATH OF GOD
against all who danced to the song of another god and had done so even in the name of JESUS . Woe wail
to the many on that day . TO the many who used the name of JESUS to serve sin
and to sell a lie that its not necessary to have BELEIVED ON HIM . WOE wail to them all . FOLKS had better repentfast
and get in the bible real quickly to learn for themselves .

@amigo de christo

 

[Wrangler]

I don't see where Jesus denies being good, so you'll have to show me that one.

Anyway, the P1 issue is "WAS JESUS GOOD? Was he? Never mind whether or not he said so. WAS HE? Yes or no, @Wrangler?

I already showed you where Jesus said he is not good. Regarding whether Jesus is good is also an answer I already gave.

What is it with trinitarians asking what was just answered?
U. Jesus died, which proves he is not God.
T. What is the proof text that Jesus is not God.

Re-read my previous post to you.

 

[David in NJ]

For those who do not believe Christ is God, they deprecate Him, they do not recognize Him.
It is why you hear them saying, we don't worship Christ, well neither do Islamicists or Jews.
For them, Jesus is just a man like they are men, nothing special.
For some say God saved me and made me born again, what did Jesus do.
God is the only Savior, this will exclude Jesus as the Savior. Savior means something different to them.

I chose you out of the world,​

That is what God does
Mark 13:20
And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days.

John 15

The World’s Hatred​

18 “If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 He who hates Me hates My Father also. 24 If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would have no sin; but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My Father. 25 But this happened that the word might be fulfilled which is written in their law, ‘They hated Me without a cause.’

Acts 15, God choses from all the nations a people for His name.

12 Then all the multitude kept silent and listened to Barnabas and Paul declaring how many miracles and wonders God had worked through them among the Gentiles. 13 And after they had [c]become silent, James answered, saying, “Men and brethren, listen to me: 14 Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name. 15 And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written:

16 ‘After this I will return
And will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down;
I will rebuild its ruins,
And I will set it up;
17 So that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
Even all the Gentiles who are called by My name,
Says the [d]Lord who does all these things.’

18 [e]“Known to God from eternity are all His works.

From @Wrangler in his post #680 : "I already showed you where Jesus said he is not good."

 

[RedFan]

I already showed you where Jesus said he is not good.

Sorry, I don't see it. Please tell me again.

 

[MonoBiblical]

From @Wrangler in his post #680 : "I already showed you where Jesus said he is not good."

If only ye knew what αγαθος means. Jesus, he is not ideal or perfect. Why do you call him perfect?

 

[David in NJ]

If only ye knew what αγαθος means. Jesus, he is not ideal or perfect. Why do you call him perfect?

When did JESUS ever say HE is 'not' perfect/good???

 

[RedFan]

When did JESUS ever say HE is 'not' perfect/good???

How can anyone possibly answer that question? Did somebody track the 99.9999% of Jesus's words not repeated in the gospels? If so, let's get them to publish!!!!!

 

[Scott Downey]

Matthew 13:37
He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man.

Someone who is not good could not do that

Matthew 7
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?

17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.

19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them

Yes, Jesus was good walking on the earth as He was the good tree, and if good, then cannot be bad.

 

[David in NJ]

How can anyone possibly answer that question? Did somebody track the 99.9999% of Jesus's words not repeated in the gospels? If so, let's get them to publish!!!!!

How can anyone possibly answer that question?

Simple

"But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”

God only holds us responsible to "IT IS WRITTEN"

 

[Keiw]

You claim to have read the Bible and you claim to believe but then you deny the TRUTH that a child can SEE

FLEE from your religion just as i FLED from mine and knelt before my LORD and SAVIOR Jesus Christ to receive HIS Love & Mercy

The mislead see like you. 99% of all religions claiming to be Christian are misleading all listening to them. Yes a child can see by believing Jesus.
Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)-- A true Christian follows Jesus footsteps as best as possible--Here is a simple one they do-John 17:6, 26--They keep on making Jesus' Fathers name known=YHVH(Jehovah)-- Yes a child can see truth.

 

[Keiw]

Michael is an angel = all the angels were created by the WORD that was God

Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” - Jude 1:9

He said--Jehovah rebuke you. In a real translation.
You are mistaken-All things but Michael were created -THROUGH- him--that means another did the creating. Jesus did not create anything. His God and Father created it all. Jesus( Michael) is the master worker= the one things were created-THROUGH. Jesus( Michael) was created direct-first and last.

 

[David in NJ]

The mislead see like you. 99% of all religions claiming to be Christian are misleading all listening to them. Yes a child can see by believing Jesus.
Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)-- A true Christian follows Jesus footsteps as best as possible--Here is a simple one they do-John 17:6, 26--They keep on making Jesus' Fathers name known=YHVH(Jehovah)-- Yes a child can see truth.

His LEAD are like me = we follow the LEADER of our SALVATION = "IAM the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE"

"no one comes to the FATHER but thru ME"

Currently, you are on the "no one" list
We who BELIEVE are on the "know One" list

Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”

And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”

 

[David in NJ]

He said--Jehovah rebuke you. In a real translation.

YEPPER

You have yet to "know" the True and Living YHWH YAHshua HaMashiach