Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

[St. SteVen]

The forbidden tree placed where it had to be confronted often.

Why was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
placed in the center (midst) of the orchard (garden) of Eden?

Interestingly, Adam and Eve had to be deceived to "eat thereof".

It seems they had no intention of eating from the forbidden tree.

What was going on here?

Whether you take the story as literal or figurative, it begs many questions.

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[Taken]

The forbidden tree placed where it had to be confronted often.

Why was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
placed in the center (midst) of the orchard (garden) of Eden?

Interestingly, Adam and Eve had to be deceived to "eat thereof".

It seems they had no intention of eating from the forbidden tree.

What was going on here?

Whether you take the story as literal or figurative, it begs many questions.

Why was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
placed in the center (midst) of the orchard (garden) of Eden?

Also:
Gen 2:
[9] And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Stage for ManKINDS Habitat (Earth/ Ground),
Established / Set, from that day Forward.

Option, Choice, Pick, FREEWILL of manKIND established / set, from that day Forward.

Every manKIND (Earthly / terrestrial) being from there Forward … inherited the FREEWILL to Choose what they WILL or WILL NOT Taste, (and Spit Out) or Consume, Eat;

Food GOOD for them;
Food NOT GOOD for them;
Gods WORD GOOD for them;
Opposition to Gods WORD, NOT GOOD for them.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Hey You!]

The forbidden tree placed where it had to be confronted often.

Why was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
placed in the center (midst) of the orchard (garden) of Eden?

Interestingly, Adam and Eve had to be deceived to "eat thereof".

It seems they had no intention of eating from the forbidden tree.

What was going on here?

Whether you take the story as literal or figurative, it begs many questions.

The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and the Tree of Life, were planted in the Garden by God; to be Symbolic of the Covenant of Works and the Covenant of Grace. They were more than Symbolic, they were also Prophetic; and Types. They were even more than that; God made a real Covenant of Works with Adam, which was Objectified by the Tree. Hosea 6:7 tells us Adam took part in the Covenant of Works. The Tree of Life was a Free offer; if Adam would have eaten of it first. The Covenant of Works was broken because it was not mixed with Faith first. - It all adds up...

The Gospel is a Tree of Life, and whoever wins Souls is Wise. It's easy to say the Tree of Life represents the New Covenant. Thus it's also easy to say the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil represents the Killing Letters of the Law of God...

Protestantism...

 

[Hey You!]

The forbidden tree placed where it had to be confronted often.

Why was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
placed in the center (midst) of the orchard (garden) of Eden?

Interestingly, Adam and Eve had to be deceived to "eat thereof".

It seems they had no intention of eating from the forbidden tree.

What was going on here?

Whether you take the story as literal or figurative, it begs many questions.

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Touch and Taste ~ by ReverendRV * November 22

Genesis 3:3 KJV; But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Did God really say that if Eve would touch that fruit, she would die? We read earlier in Genesis that God told Adam that if he ate of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil he would die; Eve added the part about the touch. Oh how the Serpent jumped on this mistake; he told her she surely would not die. Imagine her delight upon finding out that when she touched the fruit she didn’t die! The Serpent went on to tell her God knows when she eats the fruit she will be like God. No wonder she and Adam would eat the fruit after she didn’t die from the touch. But when they took a bite, their eyes were instantly opened and they saw their Nakedness; which was symbolic of their Spiritual death. ~ Sometimes we make it too easy for the Devil, don’t we? Not understanding the Truth well enough can be like not understanding it at all. But what if Eve understood the Truth better than we thought she did? Maybe she was a better helpmate to Adam than we think she was…

The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, and the Tree of Life are symbolic of God’s Covenant of Works and his Covenant of Grace. Elsewhere in the Bible we find another analogy picturing two other women; Hagar and Sarah. Hagar symbolized Mount Sanai and Sarah symbolized spiritual Jerusalem. Mount Sanai represents the Covenant of Works, just like the Tree of Knowledge also represents it. The Ten Commandments epitomize the Covenant of Works; the Bible also calls them ‘killing letters’. ~ In the book of Exodus we are told that Mount Sanai was burning and quaking! God said that if the people approached the mountain to touch it, they would die. Have you approached this fierce mountain? Stones with writing on them have been cast to the ground; one says thou shalt not take the LORD’s name in vain. Have you ever used God’s name as a cuss word? Yes? You have touched the mountain! Your eyes are opened and you are naked before God! You look back at that cruel rock and see more writing; it says thou shalt not Murder. The Bible says that even if we break just one Commandment, we are guilty of broken them all. That boulder is covered with the Ten Commandments of God. You have spiritually died and will go to Hell as eternal punishment. Does this bother you even a little?

But there is a Tree of Life and there is a Spiritual Jerusalem; Mount Calvary. The second woman Sarah had a husband named Abraham. He obeyed the word of God and took his Promised son to Mount Calvary to be a burnt offering. God stopped Abraham from slaying his son that day and provided a substitute for the offering. Around 2000 years after this, Jesus Christ died on a Cross as a bloody sacrifice for Sin. Since he led a faultless Life, only Jesus was qualified to purge Sin from out of existence. He died and was buried three days but arose to life again; walking among witnesses for fifty days. We’re Saved by Grace through Faith in Jesus, apart from Meritorious Works which we might be tempted to touch and taste. Repent of your Sins, find a Bible believing Church that will help you understand Truth better. ~ Was Eve the first Prophet of God? Did Eve really get the word of God right when she said that touching the Law would lead to certain death? She was wrong about her touching it because she was a pure Being, but she was right about our touching it as Fallen creatures…

Psalm 34:9 NIV; Taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the one who takes refuge in him.

 

[St. SteVen]

The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and the Tree of Life, were planted in the Garden by God; to be Symbolic of the Covenant of Works and the Covenant of Grace. They were more than Symbolic, they were also Prophetic; and Types. They were even more than that; God made a real Covenant of Works with Adam, which was Objectified by the Tree. Hosea 6:7 tells us Adam took part in the Covenant of Works. The Tree of Life was a Free offer; if Adam would have eaten of it first. The Covenant of Works was broken because it was not mixed with Faith first. - It all adds up...

Do you believe that Adam understood all this and chose Works anyway?
Or was he ignorant and deceived?

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[Hey You!]

Do you believe that Adam understood all this and chose Works anyway?
Or was he ignorant and deceived?

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Adam was not deceived. He Ate of the Fruit, to save his Wife. This is Symbolic of Jesus dying for the Church. I say this, not to derail your Thread...

I answered your OP. God planted the Trees in the Garden to represent his Covenants, right?

 

[St. SteVen]

Adam was not deceived. He Ate of the Fruit, to save his Wife. This is Symbolic of Jesus dying for the Church. I say this, not to derail your Thread...

Is that what Adam said when God confronted him? (nope)
... “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.” - Genesis 3:12 NIV

I answered your OP. God planted the Trees in the Garden to represent his Covenants, right?

Perhaps, but did Adam understand this?

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[Hey You!]

Is that what Adam said when God confronted him? (nope)
... “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.” - Genesis 3:12 NIV


Perhaps, but did Adam understand this?

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Thank you for saying Perhaps...

It's SO good an interpretation, non Protestants can sweep it under the rug, but can't outright deny it...

 

[St. SteVen]

Thank you for saying Perhaps...

It's SO good an interpretation, non Protestants can sweep it under the rug, but can't outright deny it...

Again, do you see any indication that Adam was aware of any of this?
Your position seems to be that Adam was fully appraised and willfully (with full knowledge) chose "Works" over "Grace".
What need is there of grace prior to a transgression?

I don't think Adam even understood what physical death was, let alone spiritual death.
Like a child warned not to touch the hot stove lest they burn their hand.

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[Hey You!]

Is that what Adam said when God confronted him? (nope)
... “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.” - Genesis 3:12 NIV

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Right; but if Adam didn't Fall, he would have said something else after he Ate. I believe his Pre Fall motive was to Die for his Bride...

His Post Fall motive was to blame her...

 

[St. SteVen]

Right; but if Adam didn't Fall, he would have said something else after he Ate. I believe his Pre Fall motive was to Die for his Bride...

His Post Fall motive was to blame her...

Why the change in motivation?

I wonder what would have happened if he refused to eat after his wife ate.

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[St. SteVen]

I believe his Pre Fall motive was to Die for his Bride...

Wouldn't that have led him to protect her from eating?

--- PARODY ---
Serpent: Did God really say... ?
Eve: He said don't eat and don't touch.
Adam: Oops, my bad, I said don't touch.
Eve: What?! God didn't say that? !!!
Adam: No, I added that because
I know you like to touch things without thinking.
Eve: So, you don't trust me? !!!
Adam: I'm looking out for our best interests. My job.
Eve: I see.
Serpent: Are you going to eat, or not? !!!
Eve: Let me check with the boss. - LOL
Adam: Scram serpent!
Serpent: Hiss... (walks away dejected)
Eve: Hey, let's check out that other tree.
Adam: Good idea!

Indeed.

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[Wick Stick]

The forbidden tree placed where it had to be confronted often.

Why was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
placed in the center (midst) of the orchard (garden) of Eden?

Interestingly, Adam and Eve had to be deceived to "eat thereof".

It seems they had no intention of eating from the forbidden tree.

What was going on here?

Whether you take the story as literal or figurative, it begs many questions.

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Throughout the Bible, trees are used to symbolize kings and kingdoms. For instance...

In Romans 11 Paul symbolizes Israel as branches attached to a root (Jesus).

Jeremiah and Zechariah predict the coming of a messiah by calling him THE BRANCH.

Jesus calls Himself the True Vine. Israel is likened unto a fig tree and an olive tree at different points. John tells them "the axe is at the root of the tree" predicting the coming judgment on Judea.

But the most telling is Ezekiel. In chapter 31, he speaks directly about the trees of Eden, giving them a metaphorical interpretation. Ezekiel tells Pharoah that the Assyrian king was the greatest among Eden's trees, that he was cast down, and that Pharoah will likewise be cast down.

 

[St. SteVen]

Throughout the Bible, trees are used to symbolize kings and kingdoms. For instance...

In Romans 11 Paul symbolizes Israel as branches attached to a root (Jesus).

Jeremiah and Zechariah predict the coming of a messiah by calling him THE BRANCH.

Jesus calls Himself the True Vine. Israel is likened unto a fig tree and an olive tree at different points. John tells them "the axe is at the root of the tree" predicting the coming judgment on Judea.

But the most telling is Ezekiel. In chapter 31, he speaks directly about the trees of Eden, giving them a metaphorical interpretation. Ezekiel tells Pharoah that the Assyrian king was the greatest among Eden's trees, that he was cast down, and that Pharoah will likewise be cast down.

Very informative, thanks.
What do you suppose Adam understood about the two trees?

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[Wick Stick]

Very informative, thanks.
What do you suppose Adam understood about the two trees?

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Well, if the trees are kings/kingdoms, then I think it says that Adam made an alliance with one of them. The wrong one, it turns out.

 

[Hey You!]

Why the change in motivation?

I wonder what would have happened if he refused to eat after his wife ate.

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I think we might agree that both Adam and Eve are Elect; Unconditionally or Conditionally. God would have still Sacrificed a spotless animal (probably a Lamb, the Proto Evangelium), even if Adam didn't need the Sacrifice himself...

But this wouldn't work. Jesus wouldn't have needed to Come, because Adam could have been her Sacrifice. He was already her Federal Head. If he didn't Fall, he could have eaten of the Tree of Life, and have died for her Sins...

 

[St. SteVen]

Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)​

The forbidden tree placed where it had to be confronted often.

Why was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
placed in the center (midst) of the orchard (garden) of Eden?

Interestingly, Adam and Eve had to be deceived to "eat thereof".

It seems they had no intention of eating from the forbidden tree.

What was going on here?

Whether you take the story as literal or figurative, it begs many questions.

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[VictoryinJesus]

Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)​

The forbidden tree placed where it had to be confronted often.

Why was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
placed in the center (midst) of the orchard (garden) of Eden?

Interestingly, Adam and Eve had to be deceived to "eat thereof".

It seems they had no intention of eating from the forbidden tree.

What was going on here?

Whether you take the story as literal or figurative, it begs many questions.

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love your post because you always provoke study. I don’t know the answer regarding the tree but a few things stand out in what you shared:
The tree placed in the center of the garden …why? You said ‘It seems they had not intention of eating from the forbidden fruit’. what was the forbidden fruit? Was the forbidden fruit the Fruit of the Spirit of God? Was that the Forbidden Fruit?? Where God said not to eat of it? Galatians 5:22-26 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, [23] Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. [24] And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. [25] If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. [26] Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

Interesting to me is if i go back and consider how Eve was tempted …I’d say it was with envy she was tempted…provoke by something more or desirable to the eyes.

Could it be the forbidden Fruit consider it killed or introduced sin, could it be Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, [20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, [21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Regarding why did the tree need to be placed in the garden? I don’t know but it reminds me of a sun at questions of why must there be heresies among you?

1 Corinthians 11:18-22
[19] For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
…leading into the Lords table and eating of the Lord’s Supper.
Also, we assume God planted the tree in the center but what of that which is not planted of God is pulled up by the roots?

Something else you said which stands out ‘Interestingly, Adam and Eve had to be deceived to "eat thereof".’ …had to be deceived to “eat thereof” does this describe to eat of malice …Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, [20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, [21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revelling …also they had intention of NOT eating of it but had to be deceived. Why does God send strong delusion? 2 Thessalonians 2:10-11 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)?​

Often we have no intention of eating of it, but in ignorance Paul spoke of God forgave him for what he did in ignorance.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)​

The forbidden tree placed where it had to be confronted often.

Why was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
placed in the center (midst) of the orchard (garden) of Eden?

Interestingly, Adam and Eve had to be deceived to "eat thereof".

It seems they had no intention of eating from the forbidden tree.

What was going on here?

Whether you take the story as literal or figurative, it begs many questions.

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And to try to figure them out on this side of eternity is a fools game for you will be anywhere from 0 to 100% wrong with no way of knowing for sure.

 

[One 2 question]

And to try to figure them out on this side of eternity is a fools game for you will be anywhere from 0 to 100% wrong with no way of knowing for sure.

Question. Does the Spirit of Truth know the answer, does He know for sure?

If He doesn't then your conclusion could be right.

But if He does then we have a chance of knowing for sure because His role is to lead us into all truth.

And we have the mind of Christ Who has access to all things in the Father.

So any questions we have we ask Jesus and He will ask His Father for the answer. Then He simply does as He promised... John 16:15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”