Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

[BreadOfLife]

Paul said that they should be cursed. The Catholic Church is one of Satan's greatest lies. With that said, there are MANY Godly people in the Catholic Church. They are deceived but nevertheless Godly people. The Catholic Church itself is of the world and is demonic.

The ruling spirit over the Catholic church is not the Holy Spirit. This the Lord was gracious to show me in an unmistakable way. I never used to quite know how to categorize the Catholic church but now I know unequivocally that it is not of God, not of Christ, and not of His Spirit, regardless of the words they use or the show they put on.

Spoken like 2 people who are completely ignorant of Catholic teaching.
This is usually the case when it comes to anti-Catholics . . .

 

[Hey You!]

I get the impression that it has. They are very defensive about questioning Catholic doctrine.

Perhaps...

Perhaps it's due to the Zeal of the new Pope being expressed...

 

[Taken]

Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?​

There will always be “division and tribulations” in “THIS” world.

Divisions, between “Different” Religions.
Divisions, with-IN “Same” Religions.

Of course “Every” “denomination” with”IN” a Religion, stress, may even require a Testimony of Agreement To “be faithfully committed” to “Their Taught” Doctrine.

Catholics “particularly” are historically (generationally) “noted” for their “schools” to teach and groom, practice, “reward”, children “according to THEIR promoted Catholic Doctrines and Rituals and Traditions.”

Fact is… Some embrace and continue what they were groomed to believe and do…
Others, follow the “habit” motions, without much depth substance.

Fact is…
* For centuries:
Catholics orally taught the Illiterate.
* For centuries:
Catholics orally taught in a language foreign to its audience.
* For centuries:
Mimicking Teachers was /Is Rewarded.
* For centuries:
Verifying Teaching against Written Scripture was Not / does Not appear as a primary Focus.

Habits! Do as “we” say. Do as “we” do.

My perspective.
Glory to God,

Taken

 

[Rockerduck]

Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?​

There will always be “division and tribulations” in “THIS” world.

Divisions, between “Different” Religions.
Divisions, with-IN “Same” Religions.

Of course “Every” “denomination” with”IN” a Religion, stress, may even require a Testimony of Agreement To “be faithfully committed” to “Their Taught” Doctrine.

Catholics “particularly” are historically (generationally) “noted” for their “schools” to teach and groom, practice, “reward”, children “according to THEIR promoted Catholic Doctrines and Rituals and Traditions.”

Fact is… Some embrace and continue what they were groomed to believe and do…
Others, follow the “habit” motions, without much depth substance.

Fact is…
* For centuries:
Catholics orally taught the Illiterate.
* For centuries:
Catholics orally taught in a language foreign to its audience.
* For centuries:
Mimicking Teachers was /Is Rewarded.
* For centuries:
Verifying Teaching against Written Scripture was Not / does Not appear as a primary Focus.

Habits! Do as “we” say. Do as “we” do.

My perspective.
Glory to God,

Taken

And the Church's in the USA, started churches and schools in the same building, to teach kids how to read and write for centuries also, from Plymouth rock to today.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

As long as we don't start to pick on the Jews....because the truth is the Gentiles wouldn't have fared any better in their shoes. Flesh is all the same, whether Jew or Gentile. The Jews are simply lost souls.......and actually prodigal sons in a way, which just should make us long for their salvation all the more. God is their judge, not we....our job is to simply be His witnesses.

You’re right — flesh is all the same.
Jew or Gentile — all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
And yes, God is the Judge, not us.

But without Christ?
No one is “chosen.”
No one is heir to the promises.

Now let’s put this in perspective — and drop the polite fog:

Today, you’ve got Western Europeans — and people from every nation on Earth — rightly identifying as the Body of Christ: born again, redeemed by the blood of the Lamb — the true Israel according to the Gospel.

Meanwhile, you’ve got Eastern European Khazarian converts —
whose ancestors were force-converted to Talmudic Judaism in 740 AD
at the edge of King Bulan’s sword — now claiming to be “ethnic descendants of Abraham”

That’s not theology.
That’s not covenant.
That’s not even a mistake.
That’s identity theft on a geopolitical scale.

The modern state of Rothschild’s False Israel™ wasn’t built on the bloodline of Judah.
It was built on the bloodline of Russian, Poles, and Ashkenazim converts—
descendants of the Khazar Empire, from the steppes of Central Asia and the Caucasus,
not the land of Canaan.

They didn’t speak Hebrew.
Not ancient Hebrew.
Not biblical Hebrew.
Not even modern Hebrew.

The Khazars spoke a Turkic language, native to the steppes of Central Asia.
Their descendants — the Ashkenazi Jews of Europe — didn’t speak Hebrew either.
They spoke Yiddish — a hybrid tongue made up of Middle High German, Slavic words, Aramaic fragments, and a few Hebrew terms sprinkled in like garnish to sound religious.

Hebrew, for centuries, was a liturgical language only.
Dead outside the synagogue.
No one spoke it in the markets.
No one used it to raise their children.

And when the Zionist movement needed to invent a “return” to the land in the early 1900s,
they had to resurrect the Hebrew language from the grave,
modernize it, nationalize it, and force it into everyday speech —
not because it was their mother tongue,
but because the entire narrative would collapse without it.

They didn’t “return” to Israel.
They weren’t from there.

They moved in from Europe —
armed with secular nationalism, funded by Rothschild money,
learned a language they had never spoken,
raised a blue and white flag stamped with the Star of Remphan,
and called it "prophecy".

It wasn’t a homecoming.
It was a political repackaging of identity theft on a national scale.

So let’s be clear:
We’re not “picking on Jews.”
We’re exposing a delusion that the Church has been force-fed since 1909:

That a group of European converts —
whose Khazarian ancestors couldn’t have found ancient Israel on a map if the entire map was Israel —
are now being called “biblical Jews” & "descendants of Abraham", and handed every covenant, every prophecy, and every divine promise… all while rejecting the Messiah.

And now most of the Scofield-misled Church has been so spiritually sedated
that it believes these Christ-rejecting, Talmud-following, Eastern European nationalists
are the fulfillment of God’s eternal plan?

That’s not just wrong.
It’s absolute madness.

It’s a Zionist fantasy propped up by:
Zero DNA evidence
Zero archaeological evidence
And zero scriptural basis

There is no verified ancient Hebrew DNA.
There is no way to prove anyone today is directly from the tribe of Judah.
All that remains is a political agenda wrapped in eschatological manipulation.

So yes — Jews, just like everyone else, need Christ.
But let’s stop pretending these people are biblical Israel.
They’re not.
They’re not even close.

The Gospel is for all nations —
but the covenants were fulfilled in Christ — not in Khazaria, not in Tel Aviv,
and definitely not in the Knesset.

If anyone wants to be saved,
they come through the cross —
not a bloodline,
not a passport,
and not a warzone.

No one gets a covenant by geography.
No one inherits the promises by DNA.
Only by faith in Jesus Christ.

And if the Church doesn’t wake up soon,
it won’t be judged for “picking on Jews.”
It’ll be judged for abandoning the Gospel
to bow before a golden calf flying a blue and white flag.

This isn’t anti-Jewish.
It’s anti-lie.
It’s anti-Zionist deception.
It’s pro-Gospel.

Because the truth is:

“There is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord is Lord of all.” — Romans 10:12
“In Christ, all the promises of God are Yes and Amen.” — 2 Corinthians 1:20
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly... but inwardly, by the Spirit.” — Romans 2:28–29
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” — Galatians 3:29

That’s not replacement.
That’s fulfillment.
That’s covenant completed, not canceled.
That’s Christ on the throne — not Israel on the news.

The Khazarian myth, the Zionist Dispensationalist narrative, the Scofield scam —
it all collapses the moment someone actually opens their Bible…
without the footnotes.

 

[Taken]

Anti-Catholic…shouts out a Catholic…LOL

Never did the Lord Teach “His Church” was, is, Called “The Catholic Church”.

Christ Jesus taught “His Church” is His and His Spirit With-IN a man, and Christ the Head of His Church.

 

[Taken]

And the Church's in the USA, started churches and schools in the same building, to teach kids how to read and write for centuries also, from Plymouth rock to today.

Sure.

 

[Sister-n-Christ]

Are you one of them new agers???

They talk like this using terms like "energy" and many new agers claim to be Christians too and talk about the "cosmic christ"

Colossians 1:29
For this I toil, struggling with all his energy that he powerfully works within me.

God is a spirit and the power within all creation as creator. Power=Energy.

 

[Grailhunter]

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned, and avoid them” (Romans 16:17). Jesus warned, “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves” (Matthew 7:15). Because there are way too many denominations and ministries today that are filled with false teachers, simply belonging to a denomination doesn’t guarantee that you’re hearing sound doctrine. Truth is not determined by popularity or tradition, it’s measured by the Word of God. The Bible commands believers to test all things (1 Thessalonians 5:21), examine teachings by the Scriptures (Acts 17:11), and contend earnestly for the faith (Jude 3).

How many Protestant beliefs can this relate to….OSAS…. Calvinists ….Universalism….the whole kool-aid and crackers thing etc

 

[Grailhunter]

The ruling spirit over the Catholic church is not the Holy Spirit. This the Lord was gracious to show me in an unmistakable way. I never used to quite know how to categorize the Catholic church but now I know unequivocally that it is not of God, not of Christ, and not of His Spirit, regardless of the words they use or the show they put on. I hate the institution because it is demonic, false and highly deceptive.....it's entirely a counterfeit form of Christianity.......but I do not hate the individual souls who are captives there. They are lost souls and God is still in the soul rescuing/saving business. I was raised in the Catholic church, and then the Lord got hold of me for real in my late twenties, so I know the difference between a dead religion that leads to death, and the life of God in Christ. Catholicism is not a Christian "denomination"...it is not Christian at all, except in name only.

I am with you hate is definitely the Christian way. I hate you and Calvinists and OSAS-ists and Universalists. I feel so good when I hate. I hate stupid people and they are demonic….Is there any other stupid thing I can say? Maybe we can get together and see if there is anyone else we can hate? Maybe Yeshua can help? Let pray to Yeshua and see if anyone else we can hate?

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Honestly, I believe both the Catholics and the Scofield-brand Evangelicals are completely lost — and that covers a massive chunk of people calling themselves "Christians" today. Between Rome’s ritualistic idolatry and the Zionist delusions of Dispensationalism, I’d say 80% (or more) of the so-called "Church" is off the narrow path.

True Christianity isn’t about denominational labels, papal authority, or Scofield’s heretical footnotes. It’s about walking with Christ — repenting, obeying, and being filled with the Spirit — and following the teachings passed down through the Apostles and Paul, the one sent to the Gentiles by Christ Himself.

The true remnant Church is spiritual, not institutional. It’s made up of those who’ve had their hearts circumcised by the Spirit, who reject false gospels, and who remain loyal to the Word of God — not the traditions of men, not Vatican councils, and not Oxford-printed Scofield footnotes.

The Catholic system = a counterfeit priesthood built on hierarchy and dead works.
Dispensationalism = a Zionist psy-op that guts the New Covenant and invents a future temple Jesus never asked for.

Both are distractions.
Both are deceptions.

The real Body of Christ?
It’s very small. It’s scattered.
But it’s faithful — and it knows the Shepherd’s voice.

 

[Grailhunter]

Honestly, I believe both the Catholics and the Scofield-brand Evangelicals are completely lost — and that covers a massive chunk of people calling themselves "Christians" today. Between Rome’s ritualistic idolatry and the Zionist delusions of Dispensationalism, I’d say 80% (or more) of the so-called "Church" is off the narrow path.

True Christianity isn’t about denominational labels, papal authority, or Scofield’s heretical footnotes. It’s about walking with Christ — repenting, obeying, and being filled with the Spirit — and following the teachings passed down through the Apostles and Paul, the one sent to the Gentiles by Christ Himself.

The true remnant Church is spiritual, not institutional. It’s made up of those who’ve had their hearts circumcised by the Spirit, who reject false gospels, and who remain loyal to the Word of God — not the traditions of men, not Vatican councils, and not Oxford-printed Scofield footnotes.

The Catholic system = a counterfeit priesthood built on hierarchy and dead works.
Dispensationalism = a Zionist psy-op that guts the New Covenant and invents a future temple Jesus never asked for.

Both are distractions.
Both are deceptions.

The real Body of Christ?
It’s very small. It’s scattered.
But it’s faithful — and it knows the Shepherd’s voice.

A lot has changed since the biblical era. The Christian leaders, besides the Apostles, were called overseers and the scripture say to obey them explicitly and there was no such thing as a non participating Christian….If you were a non participate you were not a Christian. Christians risked their lives to meet at night in secret places and it was very important to give to that congregation. If you stood up in one of these congregations and said what you just said there is no telling what they would do to you. But they would consider you damned.

There is no example of a non participate Christian(s) in the scriptures. No guidelines for non participate Christians. No scripture for not giving to the congregation-church.

Today we have names for non-particpates….Lukewarm Christians. My favorite is Lazy-Boy Christians and if they are on a forum they are kind of like armchair quarterbacks….Not standing in line for Hell but sitting waiting for Hell.

 

[bdavidc]

You say I’m twisting scripture — but you’re the one preaching a gospel with a second track.
You keep talking about "the plain reading" of the Bible — while ignoring the plainest truth in all of scripture:

“All the promises of God find their Yes in Christ.” — 2 Corinthians 1:20

If the promise to Abraham — including the land — isn’t fulfilled in Christ, then what exactly was the cross for?
To put the Church on pause so He could go back to working with unbelievers who rejected Him?
That’s not the Gospel — that’s a blasphemous detour that demotes Jesus to Plan B in His own covenant.

You keep saying the promises were “literal.”
I agree — and they were literally fulfilled in Jesus.
He is the Seed.
He is the Land.
He is the Temple.
He is the Kingdom.

“Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up… but He was speaking of the temple of His body.” — John 2:19,21
“Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.” — Matthew 5:5
“There is neither Jew nor Greek... for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” — Galatians 3:28–29

Your theology needs two peoples.
Mine comes from Jesus, who said:

“There shall be one flock, one Shepherd.” — John 10:16

You say “being in Christ means sharing in the spiritual blessings” —
but the Bible never divides the promises into spiritual vs literal.
That’s your false dichotomy.
God doesn’t split covenants.
He fulfills them all in Christ.

Romans 11 doesn’t say ethnic Israel gets a second covenant or a reset button.
It says they were broken off in unbelief — and can be grafted back in if they do not continue in unbelief.
Not because of land.
Not because of race.
But because of repentance and faith in Jesus.

You say this isn't symbolic?
Fine.
Then show me the chapter where Jesus hands out deed papers to Tel Aviv.
Where’s the verse where Christ’s return revolves around political borders, tanks and bulldozers?

You can’t find one — because this “literal land covenant” obsession isn’t from the Bible.
It’s from Scofield.
It’s from Oxford.
It’s from Zionist propaganda smuggled into the Church under the label of theology.

You keep saying “God doesn’t break His promises.”
Exactly.
That’s why He fulfilled them in His Son.
Not in a secular state.
Not in a bloodline.
Not in a flag.

You think I’m erasing scripture.
No — I’m magnifying what it all points to:
Jesus Christ is the inheritance.
He is the Yes.
He is the Land.
He is the Promise.

“In Him we have obtained an inheritance…” — Ephesians 1:11
“…an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you.” — 1 Peter 1:4

The Church doesn’t erase Israel.
It is Israel — reborn, redeemed, resurrected in Christ.
That’s not arrogance.
That’s faith.

What you’re defending is not biblical.
It’s not theological.
It’s nationalist idolatry in covenant drag.

The true gospel doesn’t revolve around a border war.
It revolves around a slain Lamb and an eternal Kingdom
— and if that Kingdom isn’t enough for you, then you’ve already missed it.

To believe this Dispensationalist heresy and nonsense, you literally have to start thinking like a Christ-rejecting Jew —
because that’s where this theology comes from.

You have to mentally demote Jesus.
You have to make ethnicity more important than faith,
land more sacred than the cross,
and a political nation more central than the Body of Christ.

You have to believe that the people who rejected the Messiah still get the promises without Him,
while those who worship Him are somehow second-tier, just “grafted in.”

You have to think God made an eternal covenant with bloodlines instead of bloodshed —
and that the crucifixion of His Son wasn’t enough to fulfill the promises,
so He has to circle back later and pass out real estate to unbelievers.

That’s not Christianity.
That’s Talmudic Zionism disguised as prophecy.

It turns the Gospel into a supporting act
for the very people who killed the main character.

If that’s your theology, don’t call it biblical.
Don’t call it Christian.
Call it what it is:

Scofield-Approved Messianic Rejection —
a heresy that puts Christ on the back burner
and gives His inheritance to those who still deny He ever came.

Again, your entire argument is built on twisting Scripture to fit a theology that replaces God’s clear promises with your own redefinitions. You say I’m preaching a “second-track gospel,” but you’re the one cutting apart the Word of God to deny what He plainly said. God promised Abraham a land, a nation, and a blessing to all families of the earth (Genesis 12:1–3), and He confirmed it as an everlasting covenant (Genesis 17:7–8). The Hebrew word for everlasting is ‘olam, meaning perpetual and without end. You have no biblical authority to turn that into symbolism.

You quote 2 Corinthians 1:20, “All the promises of God in Him are yea,” as if that gives you the right to cancel the content of those promises. It doesn’t. That verse affirms God’s faithfulness, not your liberty to rewrite His Word. If God promises land, then fulfilling that in Christ doesn’t erase the land. Jesus didn’t come to spiritualize the Bible, He came to fulfill it exactly as it was written (Matthew 5:17–18). You’re twisting “fulfillment” into a license to gut every Old Testament prophecy and turn Israel into a metaphor. That’s not biblical interpretation, that’s deception.

Romans 11 destroys your view. Paul says God has not cast away His people (Romans 11:1–2), and he still calls Israel “beloved for the fathers’ sakes” (Romans 11:28). The Church has not replaced Israel, that lie is nowhere in Scripture. You mock the idea of Jesus returning to rule in a literal kingdom, yet Jesus said His apostles would sit on twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel (Matthew 19:28). That’s not symbolic, it’s a future literal reign. The disciples asked about the restoration of Israel after the resurrection (Acts 1:6–7), and Jesus didn’t correct them. He confirmed it was still coming, just not for them to know the timing.

You’re calling literal prophecy “Zionist propaganda” while promoting a theology that guts God’s Word and then accuses others of blasphemy for simply believing what it says. That is arrogant and spiritually dangerous. You say God fulfilled the land promises in Christ, but you can’t produce a single verse where the New Testament redefines the land, the nation, or the throne of David as purely symbolic. Jesus is the Seed, yes, but Galatians 3:29 says believers are Abraham’s seed according to the promise, not in place of the promises made to national Israel.

You accuse me of nationalism and idolatry, but you’re the one putting God’s faithfulness on trial and claiming His covenant with Israel was either a mistake or a metaphor. That’s not bold theology, that’s unbelief. Your version of faith makes God a liar, reduces prophecy to poetry, and replaces the eternal promises of God with vague spiritual slogans. That’s not magnifying Christ, that’s minimizing the authority of Scripture.

The real issue here is not politics or borders, it’s whether God says what He means. If you can’t accept the plain text of Scripture because it doesn’t fit your system, then your argument is not with me, it’s with God. And you will answer for it.

 

[bdavidc]

How many Protestant beliefs can this relate to….OSAS…. Calvinists ….Universalism….the whole kool-aid and crackers thing etc

The only standard for evaluating any belief, whether it comes from Protestants, Catholics, or anyone else, is the written Word of God. We are not commanded to follow systems or titles, we are commanded to “prove all things, hold fast that which is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21), and to rightly divide the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15). If a doctrine, whether it’s OSAS, Calvinism, universalism, or anything else, cannot be clearly supported by Scripture when read in full context, it must be rejected. The Bible is not vague about salvation, judgment, or sound doctrine. For example, eternal life is clearly stated as a present possession for believers (John 5:24, 1 John 5:13), not something we earn through works, which eliminates any gospel that adds human merit (Ephesians 2:8–9). At the same time, universalism contradicts the plain teaching of Jesus, who said the gate is narrow and few find it (Matthew 7:13–14), and that those who do not believe are condemned already (John 3:18). The “kool-aid and crackers” comment, if referring to the Lord’s Supper, shows a lack of reverence for something Jesus instituted as a memorial (1 Corinthians 11:23–26), not a means of salvation. The Greek word for “remembrance” in that passage is anamnesis (ἀνάμνησις), meaning a memorial or calling to mind, not a re-sacrifice or mystical transformation. In short, if any doctrine cannot stand under the scrutiny of Scripture alone, then it has no authority and must be exposed, regardless of what label or denomination it comes from. The issue is not what Protestants believe, it’s whether what anyone believes lines up with the whole counsel of God (Acts 20:27).

 

[Lizbeth]

You’re right — flesh is all the same.
Jew or Gentile — all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
And yes, God is the Judge, not us.

But without Christ?
No one is “chosen.”
No one is heir to the promises.

Now let’s put this in perspective — and drop the polite fog:

Today, you’ve got Western Europeans — and people from every nation on Earth — rightly identifying as the Body of Christ: born again, redeemed by the blood of the Lamb — the true Israel according to the Gospel.

Meanwhile, you’ve got Eastern European Khazarian converts —
whose ancestors were force-converted to Talmudic Judaism in 740 AD
at the edge of King Bulan’s sword — now claiming to be “ethnic descendants of Abraham”

That’s not theology.
That’s not covenant.
That’s not even a mistake.
That’s identity theft on a geopolitical scale.

The modern state of Rothschild’s False Israel™ wasn’t built on the bloodline of Judah.
It was built on the bloodline of Russian, Poles, and Ashkenazim converts—
descendants of the Khazar Empire, from the steppes of Central Asia and the Caucasus,
not the land of Canaan.

They didn’t speak Hebrew.
Not ancient Hebrew.
Not biblical Hebrew.
Not even modern Hebrew.

The Khazars spoke a Turkic language, native to the steppes of Central Asia.
Their descendants — the Ashkenazi Jews of Europe — didn’t speak Hebrew either.
They spoke Yiddish — a hybrid tongue made up of Middle High German, Slavic words, Aramaic fragments, and a few Hebrew terms sprinkled in like garnish to sound religious.

Hebrew, for centuries, was a liturgical language only.
Dead outside the synagogue.
No one spoke it in the markets.
No one used it to raise their children.

And when the Zionist movement needed to invent a “return” to the land in the early 1900s,
they had to resurrect the Hebrew language from the grave,
modernize it, nationalize it, and force it into everyday speech —
not because it was their mother tongue,
but because the entire narrative would collapse without it.

They didn’t “return” to Israel.
They weren’t from there.

They moved in from Europe —
armed with secular nationalism, funded by Rothschild money,
learned a language they had never spoken,
raised a blue and white flag stamped with the Star of Remphan,
and called it "prophecy".

It wasn’t a homecoming.
It was a political repackaging of identity theft on a national scale.

So let’s be clear:
We’re not “picking on Jews.”
We’re exposing a delusion that the Church has been force-fed since 1909:

That a group of European converts —
whose Khazarian ancestors couldn’t have found ancient Israel on a map if the entire map was Israel —
are now being called “biblical Jews” & "descendants of Abraham", and handed every covenant, every prophecy, and every divine promise… all while rejecting the Messiah.

And now most of the Scofield-misled Church has been so spiritually sedated
that it believes these Christ-rejecting, Talmud-following, Eastern European nationalists
are the fulfillment of God’s eternal plan?

That’s not just wrong.
It’s absolute madness.

It’s a Zionist fantasy propped up by:
Zero DNA evidence
Zero archaeological evidence
And zero scriptural basis

There is no verified ancient Hebrew DNA.
There is no way to prove anyone today is directly from the tribe of Judah.
All that remains is a political agenda wrapped in eschatological manipulation.

So yes — Jews, just like everyone else, need Christ.
But let’s stop pretending these people are biblical Israel.
They’re not.
They’re not even close.

The Gospel is for all nations —
but the covenants were fulfilled in Christ — not in Khazaria, not in Tel Aviv,
and definitely not in the Knesset.

If anyone wants to be saved,
they come through the cross —
not a bloodline,
not a passport,
and not a warzone.

No one gets a covenant by geography.
No one inherits the promises by DNA.
Only by faith in Jesus Christ.

And if the Church doesn’t wake up soon,
it won’t be judged for “picking on Jews.”
It’ll be judged for abandoning the Gospel
to bow before a golden calf flying a blue and white flag.

This isn’t anti-Jewish.
It’s anti-lie.
It’s anti-Zionist deception.
It’s pro-Gospel.

Because the truth is:

“There is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord is Lord of all.” — Romans 10:12
“In Christ, all the promises of God are Yes and Amen.” — 2 Corinthians 1:20
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly... but inwardly, by the Spirit.” — Romans 2:28–29
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” — Galatians 3:29

That’s not replacement.
That’s fulfillment.
That’s covenant completed, not canceled.
That’s Christ on the throne — not Israel on the news.

The Khazarian myth, the Zionist Dispensationalist narrative, the Scofield scam —
it all collapses the moment someone actually opens their Bible…
without the footnotes.

Brother I totally agree that we must not get carried away by the whole Hebrew roots thing and idolizing the Jews or Israel. I don't know much about the Khazarians, I've heard of that but don't know how much truth there is to it. But I do know that God knows who the real descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are....and their gifts and callings are without repentance......they can be discerned. I worked for seven years in a Jewish health care facility and got to know and discern Jewish people quite well in that time. God has not forgotten them and still calls out to them...they are still loved on account of the patriarchs....even though at different times some of them can be enemies for the gospel's sake.

As for Israel after the flesh, there IS still an Israel after the flesh (as well as the Israel of God of course)....and it is the Lord who raises and lowers kings and kingdoms in this world, both by what He allows and whether or not He intervenes in some way. So if Israel has become a nation again, it is because the Lord has allowed it and perhaps even made a way for it to happen. I believe there will be a harvest of souls there, as well as I'm sorry to say, the Lord showed me a strong deception associated with the rebuilt Temple. I believe the final strong delusion (that if it were possible it would deceive even the very elect) will be centred there. Maybe a move of God around the same time as the devil is making his last stand.

 

[Lizbeth]

I am with you hate is definitely the Christian way. I hate you and Calvinists and OSAS-ists and Universalists. I feel so good when I hate. I hate stupid people and they are demonic….Is there any other stupid thing I can say? Maybe we can get together and see if there is anyone else we can hate? Maybe Yeshua can help? Let pray to Yeshua and see if anyone else we can hate?

The point is to be clear-eyed, sober and alert so that we ourselves will not be drawn in and deceived, and so that we can warn others in the Body of Christ so that they don't get drawn into what is not of Him and fall away.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

A lot has changed since the biblical era. The Christian leaders, besides the Apostles, were called overseers and the scripture say to obey them explicitly and there was no such thing as a non participating Christian….If you were a non participate you were not a Christian. Christians risked their lives to meet at night in secret places and it was very important to give to that congregation. If you stood up in one of these congregations and said what you just said there is no telling what they would do to you. But they would consider you damned.

There is no example of a non participate Christian(s) in the scriptures. No guidelines for non participate Christians. No scripture for not giving to the congregation-church.

Today we have names for non-particpates….Lukewarm Christians. My favorite is Lazy-Boy Christians and if they are on a forum they are kind of like armchair quarterbacks….Not standing in line for Hell but sitting waiting for Hell.

Yes — the early believers risked their lives. Yes — they met in secret.
But what made them Christians wasn’t institutional participation — it was obedience to Christ and faith in the Gospel.
They followed Jesus in Spirit and truth — not because they belonged to a properly structured Sunday service with a tithe box.

You’re confusing fellowship with institutionalism.
There’s a massive difference between the underground gatherings of the 1st-century saints and the bloated, power-hungry systems we see today — whether it’s Rome’s priestcraft or the megachurch industrial complex.

If the early church fathers were dropped into 2025 by time machine, they’d be absolutely horrified.
They’d see entire churches waving flags, cheering on endless wars, preaching Zionism, and calling a modern unbelieving nation — built by the Rothschilds and birthed by the United Nations — “Israel.”
All while funneling billions in blood money to fund it... in the name of “avoiding hell.”

They’d vomit.
They’d faint.
They’d scream “BLASPHEMY!” at what passes for Christianity today.
They’d be running in every direction — completely out of their minds — and shouting,
“The veil is real! The spirit of stupor has fallen! This is the dullness Paul warned about in Romans 11 — and it’s swallowed entire denominations whole!"

Let’s be blunt:
No Christians before the 1800s believed this Dispensationalist, heretical garbage that isn’t found anywhere in Scripture.
The early Church — for over 1,800 years — understood with absolute clarity: the Body of Christ is Israel.
That truth was erased by Darby, weaponized by Scofield, and spoon-fed to America in the form of “free Bibles” loaded with heretical footnotes — mass-produced by Oxford and bankrolled by Zionists.

Let’s talk Scripture — not sentiment:

“The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by man.”
— Acts 17:24

“Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father... But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.” — John 4:21–23

“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another—and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.” — Hebrews 10:25

This is a call to mutual encouragement among the faithful — not blind submission to apostate leadership or ritual attendance in corrupted churches.

“Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief...” — Hebrews 13:17

This is referring to true, Spirit-led overseers — not celebrity pastors, Zionist mouthpieces, or men building kingdoms of cash and compromise while screaming on TV: “WE GOTTA SEND MORE TANKS TO ISRAEL OR WE’RE ALL GOIN’ TO HELLLLL-AHHhh!!!”

That’s not discernment.
That’s not doctrine.
That’s blasphemous insanity.

And again — if the early Church Fathers were watching this, they wouldn’t just faint…
They’d think they were staring straight at the devil himself preaching from a pulpit on live TV.

And just when they thought it couldn’t get any worse,
they’d see blue and white flags bearing the star of Remphan — the same pagan symbol condemned by Stephen in Acts 7 —
now being paraded on megachurch stages and misbranded as the “Star of David” (a name that appears nowhere in the Bible).
At that point, they'd absolutely lose their minds and would have to be sedated.
They would think they’d stepped out of the time machine and landed in Hell on Earth…
and they’d be right.

Back to the main point..

I’m not against fellowship. I’m against counterfeit churches.
And the New Testament is full of warnings about false apostles, lying prophets, and entire churches that lose their lampstands (Revelation 2–3, Galatians 1, 2 Peter 2).

So no — I don’t need to stand up in your congregation to validate truth.
Truth isn’t determined by votes, crowd size, or donation buckets.
And the remnant? It’s not defined by church attendance.
It’s defined by obedience, repentance, and knowing the Shepherd’s voice.

If that makes me an “armchair Christian” in your eyes — so be it.
I’ll take the cross of Christ over the pews of apostasy any day.

 

[Lizbeth]

The only standard for evaluating any belief, whether it comes from Protestants, Catholics, or anyone else, is the written Word of God. We are not commanded to follow systems or titles, we are commanded to “prove all things, hold fast that which is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21), and to rightly divide the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15). If a doctrine, whether it’s OSAS, Calvinism, universalism, or anything else, cannot be clearly supported by Scripture when read in full context, it must be rejected. The Bible is not vague about salvation, judgment, or sound doctrine. For example, eternal life is clearly stated as a present possession for believers (John 5:24, 1 John 5:13), not something we earn through works, which eliminates any gospel that adds human merit (Ephesians 2:8–9). At the same time, universalism contradicts the plain teaching of Jesus, who said the gate is narrow and few find it (Matthew 7:13–14), and that those who do not believe are condemned already (John 3:18). The “kool-aid and crackers” comment, if referring to the Lord’s Supper, shows a lack of reverence for something Jesus instituted as a memorial (1 Corinthians 11:23–26), not a means of salvation. The Greek word for “remembrance” in that passage is anamnesis (ἀνάμνησις), meaning a memorial or calling to mind, not a re-sacrifice or mystical transformation. In short, if any doctrine cannot stand under the scrutiny of Scripture alone, then it has no authority and must be exposed, regardless of what label or denomination it comes from. The issue is not what Protestants believe, it’s whether what anyone believes lines up with the whole counsel of God (Acts 20:27).

Just want to say, that when the Lord ordains a thing, whether the prophetic acts of the prophets that He commanded in scripture, or baptism or communion, it means He infuses it with power. Regarding communion it is a kind of re-freshing of His sacrifice and that is why we are to examine ourselves before partaking, that it may be applied afresh to specific problems and sins in our life. But it is by proxy, not by transubstantiation. God accepts the offering of the bread and wine AS IF it were the body and blood. The children of Israel ate the sacrifices in order for their offering to be applied to them, so that is what we do when we partake of the body and blood of Christ by proxy. It re-minds us of His once for all sacrifice.....in that way it.re-freshes His sacrifice to us, as it were.

 

[Grailhunter]

The only standard for evaluating any belief, whether it comes from Protestants, Catholics, or anyone else, is the written Word of God. We are not commanded to follow systems or titles, we are commanded to “prove all things, hold fast that which is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21), and to rightly divide the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15). If a doctrine, whether it’s OSAS, Calvinism, universalism, or anything else, cannot be clearly supported by Scripture when read in full context, it must be rejected. The Bible is not vague about salvation, judgment, or sound doctrine. For example, eternal life is clearly stated as a present possession for believers (John 5:24, 1 John 5:13), not something we earn through works, which eliminates any gospel that adds human merit (Ephesians 2:8–9). At the same time, universalism contradicts the plain teaching of Jesus, who said the gate is narrow and few find it (Matthew 7:13–14), and that those who do not believe are condemned already (John 3:18). The “kool-aid and crackers” comment, if referring to the Lord’s Supper, shows a lack of reverence for something Jesus instituted as a memorial (1 Corinthians 11:23–26), not a means of salvation. The Greek word for “remembrance” in that passage is anamnesis (ἀνάμνησις), meaning a memorial or calling to mind, not a re-sacrifice or mystical transformation. In short, if any doctrine cannot stand under the scrutiny of Scripture alone, then it has no authority and must be exposed, regardless of what label or denomination it comes from. The issue is not what Protestants believe, it’s whether what anyone believes lines up with the whole counsel of God (Acts 20:27).

Bible only is some where between a fallacy or a strange religion….Christ did not return.... Christianity continued and adopted the Gentile Wedding Ceremony….The scriptures do not require a Wedding Ceremony to be married….in the 16th century the Protestants made a church Wedding Ceremony a requirement to be married. Shortly after the Catholic Church made the same requirement.

As centuries continued Christianity established a moratorium on polygamy and concubinage and eventually slavery and fathers choosing their daughter's husband with money transfers. The scriptures never condemned or put a moratorium on polygamy and concubinage and slavery and fathers choosing their daughters husband with money transfers. As it is now they are working on women’s rights.

Bible only would still allow polygamy and concubinage and slavery and fathers selling their daughter as sex slaves…..Bible only supports a strange religion.

The point is Christianity continued to advance after the biblical era….God – the Holy Spirit continued to guide Christianity to a better religion.

 

[Grailhunter]

Yes — the early believers risked their lives. Yes — they met in secret.
But what made them Christians wasn’t institutional participation — it was obedience to Christ and faith in the Gospel.
They followed Jesus in Spirit and truth — not because they belonged to a properly structured Sunday service with a tithe box.

You’re confusing fellowship with institutionalism.
There’s a massive difference between the underground gatherings of the 1st-century saints and the bloated, power-hungry systems we see today — whether it’s Rome’s priestcraft or the megachurch industrial complex.

If the early church fathers were dropped into 2025 by time machine, they’d be absolutely horrified.
They’d see entire churches waving flags, cheering on endless wars, preaching Zionism, and calling a modern unbelieving nation — built by the Rothschilds and birthed by the United Nations — “Israel.”
All while funneling billions in blood money to fund it... in the name of “avoiding hell.”

They’d vomit.
They’d faint.
They’d scream “BLASPHEMY!” at what passes for Christianity today.
They’d be running in every direction — completely out of their minds — and shouting,
“The veil is real! The spirit of stupor has fallen! This is the dullness Paul warned about in Romans 11 — and it’s swallowed entire denominations whole!"

Let’s be blunt:
No Christians before the 1800s believed this Dispensationalist, heretical garbage that isn’t found anywhere in Scripture.
The early Church — for over 1,800 years — understood with absolute clarity: the Body of Christ is Israel.
That truth was erased by Darby, weaponized by Scofield, and spoon-fed to America in the form of “free Bibles” loaded with heretical footnotes — mass-produced by Oxford and bankrolled by Zionists.

Let’s talk Scripture — not sentiment:

“The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by man.”
— Acts 17:24

“Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father... But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.” — John 4:21–23

“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another—and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.” — Hebrews 10:25

This is a call to mutual encouragement among the faithful — not blind submission to apostate leadership or ritual attendance in corrupted churches.

“Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief...” — Hebrews 13:17

This is referring to true, Spirit-led overseers — not celebrity pastors, Zionist mouthpieces, or men building kingdoms of cash and compromise while screaming on TV: “WE GOTTA SEND MORE TANKS TO ISRAEL OR WE’RE ALL GOIN’ TO HELLLLL-AHHhh!!!”

That’s not discernment.
That’s not doctrine.
That’s blasphemous insanity.

And again — if the early Church Fathers were watching this, they wouldn’t just faint…
They’d think they were staring straight at the devil himself preaching from a pulpit on live TV.

And just when they thought it couldn’t get any worse,
they’d see blue and white flags bearing the star of Remphan — the same pagan symbol condemned by Stephen in Acts 7 —
now being paraded on megachurch stages and misbranded as the “Star of David” (a name that appears nowhere in the Bible).
At that point, they'd absolutely lose their minds and would have to be sedated.
They would think they’d stepped out of the time machine and landed in Hell on Earth…
and they’d be right.

Back to the main point..

I’m not against fellowship. I’m against counterfeit churches.
And the New Testament is full of warnings about false apostles, lying prophets, and entire churches that lose their lampstands (Revelation 2–3, Galatians 1, 2 Peter 2).

So no — I don’t need to stand up in your congregation to validate truth.
Truth isn’t determined by votes, crowd size, or donation buckets.
And the remnant? It’s not defined by church attendance.
It’s defined by obedience, repentance, and knowing the Shepherd’s voice.

If that makes me an “armchair Christian” in your eyes — so be it.
I’ll take the cross of Christ over the pews of apostasy any day.

The scriptures say you should assemble to worship the Lord…. The early Christians assembled to worship the Lord….You should assemble to worship the Lord.

The scriptures say to give to the church-congregation….the early Christians gave to the church-congregations….You should give to the church.

If you stood up in one of those congregations and said the things you said here they would consider you damn. All the study you do not to be a participate Christian is anti-Christian….you would be a good spokesman for the Anti-Christ. On Judgment say all this to Christ and see what happen. Excuses! Excuse! Excuses! Fire! Fire! Fire!