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The Christian's “forgiveness” is “once for all,” meaning that God’s forgiveness needs applied only “once” (Heb 10:10, 14), and which is never withdrawn, so it is continually unending and needs not to forgive over and over (unlike the Popish mass supports Christ sacrificing again during communion) but just once, which is eternal.

Christians always “please” God (Phl 2:13) because He “works” this in them to maintain obedience, which has no relation concerning His forgiveness because this is related only to His Son’s Cross work. This doesn’t mean sinlessness, but a “hatred” (Rom 7:15) and (“unwilling” desire to ever sin (verse 16).

This means Christians are never without God’s “forgiveness,” and this is what Christ’s sacrifice primarily secured for the saints. They may often not feel forgiven but He is “faithful and just to forgive us our sins,” which among many other reasons God loves the saint; of course this is considering the “confession” of those who love God and are secured by His Holy Spirit using the Life of Jesus in them (Col 3:4).

The “confession of our sin” is what the Christian performs and is repetitious, but not God’s forgiveness. The believer never has to ask for forgiveness, which is always present, but rather thank God for it! Confession just means “to admit,” thus, just tell God you have sinned and thank Him for His ever-present forgiveness!

Blessed be God above all!






MJS daily devotional for April 13

“For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily” (Col. 2:9).

“Reckoning” on the work of the Cross is the only relief from the carnal burden of self. Then comes the spiritual burden of Christ—to be more like Him. “Reckoning” is the answer there, too. “Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through [in] Jesus Christ our Lord” (Rom. 6.11). If we seek to escape the death, we will not experience the life.

“We are not to try to crucify self, but we are to agree (reckon) with what God has said and done. In the lives of most believers self has usurped the place belonging to the Lord Jesus Christ. It is a criminal worthy of death, but the trouble is that they do not realize that this self-life has been crucified on the Cross. They do not believe the facts of the Word, and sin therefore reigns in their lives; they live in bondage to sin, praying for deliverance, praying that they may die to sin, but refusing to believe what God says He has already done.” -L.L.L.

“The constant tendency is to try to improve the manner of one’s life here below by adopting Christian principles, whereas you will never arrive at it unless you start from ‘crucified with Christ.’ Then it is not thinking of what I am, but of what He is, ‘Christ liveth in me.’“ - James Butler Stoney (1814-97)
 
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The Christian's “forgiveness” is “once for all,” meaning that God’s forgiveness needs applied only “once” (Heb 10:10, 14), and which is never withdrawn, so it is continually unending and needs not to forgive over and over (unlike the Popish mass supports Christ sacrificing again during communion) but just once, which is eternal.

Great so we can all go back to living in sin.clueless-scratching.gif

Glad you cleared that all up by spreading the deception of the devil

This is typical of the cherry pickers who reject all God says about a subject only accepting what their preconceived ideas are.
 

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Great so we can all go back to living in sin.View attachment 62734

Glad you cleared that all up by spreading the deception of the devil

This is typical of the cherry pickers who reject all God says about a subject only accepting what their preconceived ideas are.
No, he is not saying that at all. You are misconstruing what he is talking about.

I believe in eternal security but I don't have any desire to live in sin. What blood washed, born again Christian desires sin?!

A sinful life is a life of misery. A life in the Lord is life and peace.
 

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The Christian's “forgiveness” is “once for all,” meaning that God’s forgiveness needs applied only “once” (Heb 10:10, 14), and which is never withdrawn, so it is continually unending and needs not to forgive over and over (unlike the Popish mass supports Christ sacrificing again during communion) but just once, which is eternal.

Christians always “please” God (Phl 2:13) because He “works” this in them to maintain obedience, which has no relation concerning His forgiveness because this is related only to His Son’s Cross work. This doesn’t mean sinlessness, but a “hatred” (Rom 7:15) and (“unwilling” desire to ever sin (verse 16).

This means Christians are never without God’s “forgiveness,” and this is what Christ’s sacrifice primarily secured for the saints. They may often not feel forgiven but He is “faithful and just to forgive us our sins,” which among many other reasons God loves the saint; of course this is considering the “confession” of those who love God and are secured by His Holy Spirit using the Life of Jesus in them (Col 3:4).

The “confession of our sin” is what the Christian performs and is repetitious, but not God’s forgiveness. The believer never has to ask for forgiveness, which is always present, but rather thank God for it! Confession just means “to admit,” thus, just tell God you have sinned and thank Him for His ever-present forgiveness!

Blessed be God above all!






MJS daily devotional for April 13

“For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily” (Col. 2:9).

“Reckoning” on the work of the Cross is the only relief from the carnal burden of self. Then comes the spiritual burden of Christ—to be more like Him. “Reckoning” is the answer there, too. “Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through [in] Jesus Christ our Lord” (Rom. 6.11). If we seek to escape the death, we will not experience the life.

“We are not to try to crucify self, but we are to agree (reckon) with what God has said and done. In the lives of most believers self has usurped the place belonging to the Lord Jesus Christ. It is a criminal worthy of death, but the trouble is that they do not realize that this self-life has been crucified on the Cross. They do not believe the facts of the Word, and sin therefore reigns in their lives; they live in bondage to sin, praying for deliverance, praying that they may die to sin, but refusing to believe what God says He has already done.” -L.L.L.

“The constant tendency is to try to improve the manner of one’s life here below by adopting Christian principles, whereas you will never arrive at it unless you start from ‘crucified with Christ.’ Then it is not thinking of what I am, but of what He is, ‘Christ liveth in me.’“ - James Butler Stoney (1814-97)
Thank you for posting this...very good explanation.

There are those that will misconstrue as usual, sorry to say.
 

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Great so we can all go back to living in sin.View attachment 62734

Glad you cleared that all up by spreading the deception of the devil

This is typical of the cherry pickers who reject all God says about a subject only accepting what their preconceived ideas are.
Thanks for your reply! To me, living in sin is desiring to sin, i.e. "sinning willfully" (Heb 10:26); and our primary deliverance is, not from sinning, but from the "old man's) inability to cause us to want to sin, like Paul who did not want to sin; "Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin ("old man" or sin nature that's still present) that dwells in me" (Ro 7:17, 20).
 
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The Christian's “forgiveness” is “once for all,” meaning that God’s forgiveness needs applied only “once” (Heb 10:10, 14), and which is never withdrawn, so it is continually unending and needs not to forgive over and over

True.

So, when you find a "christian" confessing sin, over and over, when in fact God's Forgiveness, is eternal....then you are dealing with someone who does not understand Their Salvation .

Here is a NT doctrine that most Christians have never noticed.

A.) Jesus is the one time....ETERNAL sacrifice......for sin :

New King James Version
But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins FOREVER, sat down at the right hand of God,

New American Standard Bible
but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins FOR ALL TIME SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,

NASB 1995
but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins FOR ALL TIME, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,

NASB 1977
but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,

Legacy Standard Bible
but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,

Amplified Bible
whereas Christ, having offered the one sacrifice [the all-sufficient sacrifice of Himself] for sins for all time, SAT DOWN [signifying the completion of atonement for sin] AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD [the position of honor],

Christian Standard Bible
But this man, after offering one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
But this man, after offering one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God.

American Standard Version
but he, when he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
 
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True.

So, when you find a "christian" confessing sin, over and over, when in fact God's Forgiveness, is eternal....then you are dealing with someone who does not understand Their Salvation .
Thanks for the support! Of course, this does not include "willful" sins (Heb 10:26).
 
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Of course, this does not include "willful" sins (Heb 10:26).

"willful" sin of Christ rejection.

So, this is the Hebrews in that verse, and in Chapter 6, who are willfully sinning that sin.
This is not a Christian, as the Christian has already passed from "death to life" and is "one with God."

If you own a bible, read Acts 28:28, as its Hebrews 10:26 and 6:4 as found duplicated in the "ACTS of the Apostles".
 
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"willful" sin of Christ rejection.

So, this is the Hebrews in that verse, and in Chapter 6, who are willfully sinning that sin.
This is not a Christian, as the Christian has already passed from "death to life" and is "one with God."

If you own a bible, read Acts 28:28, as its Hebrews 10:26 and 6:4 as found duplicated in the "ACTS of the Apostles".
True, a Christian will not sin willfully; God has replaced our desire for sin with the willing and to doing "of His good pleasure" (Phl 2:13).
 
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True, a Christian will not sin willfully; God has replaced our desire for sin with the willing and to doing "of His good pleasure."

Its not honest to try to pretend that all the sins you have confessed all these years, were "accidents" and you never chose to do any of them, willfully.

Listen, its best to not only be honest with yourself, but to also be honest on a public "Christian" forum.

So, before you run back in here, and try to claim you've never willfully chosen to sin, and all your sin confession was "accidental sins".. you might want to pray about that first...... @Netchaplain .

Think on that.
 

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Its not honest to try to pretend that all the sins you have confessed all these years, were "accidents" and you never chose to do any of them, willfully.

Listen, its best to not only be honest with yourself, but to also be honest on a public "Christian" forum.

So, before you run back in here, and try to claim you've never willfully chosen to sin, and all your sin confession was "accidental sins".. you might want to pray about that first...... @Netchaplain .

Think on that.
You're probably misunderstanding me. Nobody has been perfect through their entire life, we've all desired to sin prior to being reborn. You can discern between if you're sinning willfully or not. Nobody lives without sinning, and if it's intentional you're still not reborn (Heb 10:26).
 

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You're probably misunderstanding me. Nobody has been perfect through their entire life, we've all desired to sin prior to being reborn.

You said that no Christian willfully sins, and if you are a Christian, you have willfully sinned, and confessed it.

And if you try to pretend that all your confessed sins, were "accidental sins" that you didnt mean to do, then you are lying, and you'll get to confess that one next, as it was willfully committed on This Forum. @Netchaplain

See you there.
 

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You said that no Christian willfully sins, and if you are a Christian, you have willfully sinned, and confessed it.

And if you try to pretend that all your confessed sins, were "accidental sins" that you didnt mean to do, then you are lying, and you'll get to confess that one next, as it was willfully committed on This Forum. @Netchaplain

See you there.
It's ok, but I never said "if you are a Christian, you have willfully sinned, and confessed it." It's if you're a Christian you no longer sin willfully. Thanks.
 

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if you're a Christian you no longer sin willfully. Thanks.

Try again.

See, nearly every sin you have confessed, was committed "willfully".....knowingly.....or you are claiming most of your sin was "accidents" and not choices.
And to claim that none of your confessed sin, was "your choice to sin".......is not honest.
So, there it is...
 

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I believe in eternal security but I don't have any desire to live in sin. What blood washed, born again Christian desires sin?!

When the eternal security people tell others that it's not possible for one to lose their salvation (which is not scriptural) you are causing others to stumble especially those young in the faith who are struggling with sinful behavior.

They hear your claims along with the false doctrine that all future sins are already forgiven so they believe they can just relax and quit trying to be in opposition to sinful behavior and go ahead and continue you in sin.

Then the hard hearted eternal security people people come against these folks claiming they were never saved to begin with further driving them away from the Lord

Luke 17:2 - It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Eternal security is ONLY applicable to those that abide in Christ Jesus who bear fruit
John 15:2 - Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away

And yet the eternal security people claim Jesus lied in John 15:2. Sad.
 

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Nobody lives without sinning

That's what the devil keeps telling everyone so they'll keep the door open to a little sinful behavior every now and then

This is why so many like to have their ears tickled with eternal security teaching so they can keep the door to sin open.

1 John 2:1 - My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.

John 8:11 - Now go and sin no more

1 John 1:6 - If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth

James 4:17 - Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
 

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and if it's intentional you're still not reborn (Heb 10:26).

YOur verse is talking to unsaved, HEBREWS........and you are not one of those.


So...Your last 250 sins,.. you claim were ALL unintentional?
I claim that if you claim that.. then you need to repent of your willful lying.
 

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YOur verse is talking to unsaved, HEBREWS

No, it's not just speaking to unsaved Hebrews...

2 Timothy 3:16,17 - All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.