Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

[NotTheRock]

You're claiming to know the basics while preaching a second-chance gospel that the Bible never teaches.

So you're an infernalist. Now I understand.

 

[Mink57]

Interesting. What is the source for this claim, please?

Sure. (Acts 9:2; 19:9, 23; 22:4; 24:14, 22)

Take Acts 9:-1,2 for example. "But Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest and asked him for letters to the synagogues at Damascus, so that if he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.

The rest you can look up, too.

 

[NotTheRock]

Before his conversion, Paul (then called Saul) referred to the followers of Jesus Christ as belonging to “the way.” This term was used to describe the early Christian movement, and Paul used it when he was still persecuting the church.

Here’s the proof from Scripture:

Acts 9:1–2 (KJV)
And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest, And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

This shows that even before he became a believer, Saul recognized the distinct identity of Christ’s followers and referred to them as “this way.”

More examples:

• Acts 19:9 – “But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude…”
• Acts 22:4 – “And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women.”

So yes, the phrase “The Way” is biblical, and it was used as an early label for those who followed Jesus, even by their enemies.

Thanks. Perhaps Saul heard that they referred to themselves as "The Way" and so he too referred to them as that. After all Jesus did say that he is "The Way".

 

[Mink57]

I don't condemn doctrines that are in agreement with the Biblical word of God.

Didn't Christ want his church to be 'universal'? Didn't he say that he wanted the Gospel to be preached to the world? Isn't that "universal"?

 

[NotTheRock]

Sure. (Acts 9:2; 19:9, 23; 22:4; 24:14, 22)

Take Acts 9:-1,2 for example. "But Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest and asked him for letters to the synagogues at Damascus, so that if he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.

The rest you can look up, too.

Thanks for responding.

 

[bdavidc]

So you're an infernalist. Now I understand.

If by “infernalist” you mean someone who believes in the eternal punishment of the wicked as taught by Jesus Christ Himself, then yes, I stand with what the Bible says. I'm not interested in labels people make up to avoid Scripture. Jesus said in Matthew 25:46, “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal.” The same Greek word for everlasting (αἰώνιος, aiōnios) is used for both punishment and life. You don’t get to redefine one without affecting the other.

Call it what you want, I care what God says. The Bible warns repeatedly of a real place of judgment for those who reject Him. It’s not out of cruelty, it’s out of justice. And it’s because of that reality that the gospel is so urgent. So mock the term if you want, but twisting Scripture won’t change the truth.

 

[Mink57]

Half of women in the Roman Catholic Church support abortion. No wonder they spew garbage such as "30,000 denominations".

The RCC supports abortion...IN certain circumstances.

 

[Mink57]

Thanks. Perhaps Saul heard that they referred to themselves as "The Way" and so he too referred to them as that. After all Jesus did say that he is "The Way".

Actually, that's very possible!! Then again, how come no original Apostle referred to themselves as "The Way"?

 

[NotTheRock]

Didn't Christ want his church to be 'universal'? Didn't he say that he wanted the Gospel to be preached to the world? Isn't that "universal"?

No. Jesus was sent to reconcile the world to the Father, not the universe. And as I previously stated, that word isn't used in the Bible and so it's quite a leap to claim that the Apostles were the original founders of the Universal Church when, according to the scriptures, they referred to themselves as "The Way".

The Catholic Church's problem is that about half of what they do and teach is unbiblical or in direct contradiction to Jesus.

 

[NotTheRock]

The RCC supports abortion...IN certain circumstances.

I think most of us do in extreme circumstances.

 

[Mink57]

Thanks for responding.

I apologize. I didn't mean to come across like, "Look-it-up-for-yourself-what's-wrong-with-you"...thing. More like, "Look-it-up-because-i'm-too-lazy-to-do-so-at-the-moment"

 

[NotTheRock]

Actually, that's very possible!! Then again, how come no original Apostle referred to themselves as "The Way"?

How do you know they didn't? Do you believe that Saul coined the term in spite of the apostles and not Saul hearing Jesus call himself "The Way"?

 

[NotTheRock]

I apologize. I didn't mean to come across like, "Look-it-up-for-yourself-what's-wrong-with-you"...thing. More like, "Look-it-up-because-i'm-too-lazy-to-do-so-at-the-moment"

I didn't take it that way at all. All good brother.

 

[NotTheRock]

@Mink57

I gotta run but we can fellowship later. May God bless you!

 

[Mink57]

No. Jesus was sent to reconcile the world to the Father, not the universe.

In the Apostles day and age, the world WAS the universe!

And as I previously stated, that word isn't used in the Bible and so it's quite a leap to claim that the Apostles were the original founders of the Universal Church when, according to the scriptures, they referred to themselves as "The Way".

Christ wants ALL to come to him. To me, THAT'S universal. He didn't ONLY want a select few, although he knew that would happen.

The Catholic Church's problem is that about half of what they do and teach is unbiblical or in direct contradiction to Jesus.

There's a LOT of things that we do that are "unbiblical". Where is it in the bible that we should use computers? Or drive cars?

I'm kind of being tongue-in-cheek, but you get my drift.

Thing is, that much about Catholicism is steeped in tradition. For example, do you celebrate Christmas? That's tradition. Non-biblical, yet tradition. Do Catholics eat meat on Fridays? No. Not biblical but tradition.

Even though I'm Catholic, what I DON'T like is that IF we DO eat meat on Friday, it's a 'sin'. It's a sin because 'authority' says that we're not supposed to do that...and that according to the bible, we're supposed to adhere to 'authority'...and that by NOT doing so, it's a 'sin'.

Big. Fat. Eyeroll.

 

[Mink57]

I didn't take it that way at all. All good brother.

I'm a sister.

 

[Mink57]

How do you know they didn't?

You're RIGHT! I completely agree!

Do you believe that Saul coined the term in spite of the apostles and not Saul hearing Jesus call himself "The Way"?

Well....in the bible, Jesus referred to himself as The Way. Whether Saul knew that or not isn't in the bible. I mean, he got the 'inspiration' from SOMEWHERE.

Saul was pretty good at saying that what he was saying was coming "from the Lord" or from his own opinion. I don't believe that Saut (later Paul) ALWAYS spoke from the Lord as from his own opinion. I think the Lord allowed him to speak knowing where it was going to lead. So, don't take Paul's words as 'gospel' to do everything that Paul says.

That make sense?

Yeah, I know. I'm Catholic. Never said I was a GOOD Catholic, LOL!!

 

[Behold]

Referring to Catholicism...with 1.3 billion followers as a "cult" has me a bit...wrangled. And yes, I am Catholic.

So then, if im following your Logic ??...........if 1.3 Billion Catholics are not a Cult, because Satan could not possiby deceive that many people.......then 1.9 Billion Muslim, are definiately not a cult, because how could that many people who all believe the same thing......all be deceived.........

Ok, got it.
Thanks for showing us how you've seriously given it a lot of thought.

There is no "cult of Mary" in Catholicism.

The "Cult of Mary" is the Catholic Church.

Look.. where is JESUS on this STATUE of MARY ??????????????? that the POPE is worshiping in public, before a large audience filled with cameras.

Oh that's right.....its the "Cult of Mary"..
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[The Gospel of Christ]

"No. Jesus was sent to reconcile the world to the Father, not the universe. And as I previously stated, that word isn't used in the Bible and so it's quite a leap to claim that the Apostles were the original founders of the Universal Church when, according to the scriptures, they referred to themselves as "The Way". The Catholic Church's problem is that about half of what they do and teach is unbiblical or in direct contradiction to Jesus."

These misled Dispensationalists are so lost and on the wide road, it’s not even funny.

No one said Jesus came to reconcile Pluto.
“Universal” means global — as in, every tribe, tongue, and nation. You’re twisting semantics because you got caught on the wrong side of history and scripture.

Let’s remind you:
“Go therefore and make disciples of all nations...” — Matthew 28:19
“This Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all nations...” — Matthew 24:14
“...in your name, repentance and forgiveness of sins should be preached to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.” — Luke 24:47

So yeah — Jesus absolutely intended a universal Church.
Not limited to Jews. Not locked to a temple.
A global, unified body made up of whoever believes.

That’s what “Catholic” originally meant before Rome hijacked the term — it meant “according to the whole” — the entire body of Christ.
Not Roman. Not political. Biblical.

And about “The Way” — yes, the early Church referred to themselves that way (Acts 9:2).
But what was The Way?
A Jewish sect? No.
A rebrand of Mosaic law? No.
It was the new covenant body of Christ, open to Gentiles, filled with the Spirit, called to the ends of the earth.

Paul didn’t die preaching “The Way of National Israel.”
He died preaching Christ crucified, to the whole world,
founding churches across Asia Minor and Europe.

So stop splitting hairs over word choices to dodge the point.
Jesus did want His Church to be universal.
He said it. The apostles lived it.
And your Scofield notes can’t erase that.

 

[Mink57]

So then, if im following your Logic ??...........if 1.3 Billion Catholics are not a Cult, because Satan could not possiby deceive that many people.......then 1.9 Billion Muslim, are definiately not a cult, because how could that many people who all believe the same thing......all be deceived.........

If you look at it that way, then satan also could have deceived the millions of other non-Catholic Christians. Not even including Muslims.

Do you even know that some Muslims can look at YOUR non-Catholic Christianity as a "cult"?

Think about it....

Ok, got it.
Thanks for showing us how you've seriously given it a lot of thought.

I HAVE given it a lot of thought. And my conclusion is that as much as SOME of want to believe we're "saved" and that we'll go to heaven...
because we 'believe' in Jesus, even without practicing what Jesus TOLD us to do...

Sorry, but I believe that some atheists are getting into heaven BEFORE the staunch "believer"...who bows down and worships Christ while treating his fellow human like crap.

The "Cult of Mary" is the Catholic Church.

Look.. where is JESUS on this STATUE of MARY ??????????????? that the POPE is worshiping in public, before a large audience filled with cameras.

Oh that's right.....its the "Cult of Mary"..
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And you think that you actually know WHAT he's praying about..or thinking?

My goodness....I guess if I kneel at my bed and pray, I'm praying to the BED!!!
Or if I get on my knees in front of my plate glass window, looking out at the mountains, I MUST be praying to the plate glass window..or the mountains.....

Sheesh!