Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

[The Gospel of Christ]

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"Interesting. What is the source for this claim, please?"

Acts 9:1–2.
“Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord’s disciples. He went to the high priest and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem.”

That’s Paul — before his conversion — referring to the early Christians as “The Way.”

So yes, it’s not just accurate.
It’s straight out of the text.

Try reading it sometime instead of your Scofield notes.

 

[NotTheRock]

Personally I think this whole "30,000 denominations" thing is a fiction, a straw man, used by many to make many different points. Someone claimed on this thread to have personally counted 30,000 of them. That's not a credible claim to me. And then, what makes one church a different denomination? What is the criteria? Seriously! What was it about denom #28,773 that makes it separate from all the others?

The fact is, the Catholic Church in its councils and catachism is heretical, and no amount of "but there are thousands of protestant denoms" is going to change that.

Much love!

Half of women in the Roman Catholic Church support abortion. No wonder they spew garbage such as "30,000 denominations".

 

[Mink57]

A Spirit Led "Theologian" will never try to protect any cult, because they would understand that the root issue with any cult is THEOLOGY.
You of couse, dont understand this yet regarding the Catholic Cult.......but you'll now pretend you do.......as now you have no choice.

I usually enjoy your posts but THIS one...eh.

Referring to Catholicism...with 1.3 billion followers as a "cult" has me a bit...wrangled. And yes, I am Catholic.

Now, before you roll your eyes at me, let me say that even as a Catholic I do NOT believe in ALL of the Catholic practices. But I also see that many non-Catholic Christians really have no understanding of WHY some adhere to Catholicism. Have you tried to figure that out?

The reality is......."the Cult of Mary" contains significant issues regarding falsifying = How a Person is Born again, and this one core issue, this one false theology, ... defines this "cult" as anti-Truth and anti-Cross, and Galatians 1:8

There is no "cult of Mary" in Catholicism. Yes, I can see how it may appear to some (ha) that's what we do. But that's not the truth. Again, how deeply have you delved into the history of Catholicism and how they feel about Mary?

Then, when you get deep into their bizarre false doctrine.....and you find out that this cult collects dead body parts, (Relics) and has them in many Catholic Churches and in the Vatican,.... so, we see "demonic" activity as their "church doctrine".

Again, what's with the insults? Why say that their beliefs are "bizarre" or "demonic"? Why not simply say that you don't understand them instead of judging without knowing?

And next....... there is their obsession with Mary, Mary, Mary.

The "cult of Mary" teaches that Mary never had any other Children, and the New Testament says she has several others.

If you take what the bible says literally (in reference to Christ's "brothers and sisters"), then yes, Mary did have other children.
But if you take what Christ "48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

So because pointed to his disciples, and referred to them as his "brothers", does that mean that Mary birthed them all?

The "cult of Mary" teaches the same pagan doctrine about Mary, that is found in Pagan "Goddess DIANA Worship" ...including
" "perpetual Virgin" and "Queen of Heaven".
The "cult of Mary" teaches that "Mary ascended (flew) to heaven, after she died, in her DEAD BODY".

Where in the bible does it say she died?

So, i can just keep going, but anyone who can THINK, and has studied the NT, and has some common sense and spiritual discernment, is not going to listen to some "self proclaimed" Theologican @Grailhunter , who wants to protect and shelter such an OBVIOUS Manmade hyper religious, false "Church".

I think @Grailhunter is trying to say to knock it off with the INSULTS as well as to know what you're talking about BEFORE you (that is, you plural) go spewing off about something you know little about.

 

[bdavidc]

Interesting. What is the source for this claim, please?

Before his conversion, Paul (then called Saul) referred to the followers of Jesus Christ as belonging to “the way.” This term was used to describe the early Christian movement, and Paul used it when he was still persecuting the church.

Here’s the proof from Scripture:

Acts 9:1–2 (KJV)
And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest, And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

This shows that even before he became a believer, Saul recognized the distinct identity of Christ’s followers and referred to them as “this way.”

More examples:

• Acts 19:9 – “But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude…”
• Acts 22:4 – “And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women.”

So yes, the phrase “The Way” is biblical, and it was used as an early label for those who followed Jesus, even by their enemies.

 

[NotTheRock]

You're adding things that are flat-out unbiblical.

Every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of God the Father. As I said, Christianity 101 stuff.

 

[NotTheRock]

You're claiming to know the basics while preaching a second-chance gospel that the Bible never teaches.

So you're an infernalist. Now I understand.

 

[Mink57]

Interesting. What is the source for this claim, please?

Sure. (Acts 9:2; 19:9, 23; 22:4; 24:14, 22)

Take Acts 9:-1,2 for example. "But Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest and asked him for letters to the synagogues at Damascus, so that if he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.

The rest you can look up, too.

 

[NotTheRock]

Before his conversion, Paul (then called Saul) referred to the followers of Jesus Christ as belonging to “the way.” This term was used to describe the early Christian movement, and Paul used it when he was still persecuting the church.

Here’s the proof from Scripture:

Acts 9:1–2 (KJV)
And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest, And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

This shows that even before he became a believer, Saul recognized the distinct identity of Christ’s followers and referred to them as “this way.”

More examples:

• Acts 19:9 – “But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude…”
• Acts 22:4 – “And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women.”

So yes, the phrase “The Way” is biblical, and it was used as an early label for those who followed Jesus, even by their enemies.

Thanks. Perhaps Saul heard that they referred to themselves as "The Way" and so he too referred to them as that. After all Jesus did say that he is "The Way".

 

[Mink57]

I don't condemn doctrines that are in agreement with the Biblical word of God.

Didn't Christ want his church to be 'universal'? Didn't he say that he wanted the Gospel to be preached to the world? Isn't that "universal"?

 

[NotTheRock]

Sure. (Acts 9:2; 19:9, 23; 22:4; 24:14, 22)

Take Acts 9:-1,2 for example. "But Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest and asked him for letters to the synagogues at Damascus, so that if he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.

The rest you can look up, too.

Thanks for responding.

 

[bdavidc]

So you're an infernalist. Now I understand.

If by “infernalist” you mean someone who believes in the eternal punishment of the wicked as taught by Jesus Christ Himself, then yes, I stand with what the Bible says. I'm not interested in labels people make up to avoid Scripture. Jesus said in Matthew 25:46, “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal.” The same Greek word for everlasting (αἰώνιος, aiōnios) is used for both punishment and life. You don’t get to redefine one without affecting the other.

Call it what you want, I care what God says. The Bible warns repeatedly of a real place of judgment for those who reject Him. It’s not out of cruelty, it’s out of justice. And it’s because of that reality that the gospel is so urgent. So mock the term if you want, but twisting Scripture won’t change the truth.

 

[Mink57]

Half of women in the Roman Catholic Church support abortion. No wonder they spew garbage such as "30,000 denominations".

The RCC supports abortion...IN certain circumstances.

 

[Mink57]

Thanks. Perhaps Saul heard that they referred to themselves as "The Way" and so he too referred to them as that. After all Jesus did say that he is "The Way".

Actually, that's very possible!! Then again, how come no original Apostle referred to themselves as "The Way"?

 

[NotTheRock]

Didn't Christ want his church to be 'universal'? Didn't he say that he wanted the Gospel to be preached to the world? Isn't that "universal"?

No. Jesus was sent to reconcile the world to the Father, not the universe. And as I previously stated, that word isn't used in the Bible and so it's quite a leap to claim that the Apostles were the original founders of the Universal Church when, according to the scriptures, they referred to themselves as "The Way".

The Catholic Church's problem is that about half of what they do and teach is unbiblical or in direct contradiction to Jesus.

 

[NotTheRock]

The RCC supports abortion...IN certain circumstances.

I think most of us do in extreme circumstances.

 

[Mink57]

Thanks for responding.

I apologize. I didn't mean to come across like, "Look-it-up-for-yourself-what's-wrong-with-you"...thing. More like, "Look-it-up-because-i'm-too-lazy-to-do-so-at-the-moment"

 

[NotTheRock]

Actually, that's very possible!! Then again, how come no original Apostle referred to themselves as "The Way"?

How do you know they didn't? Do you believe that Saul coined the term in spite of the apostles and not Saul hearing Jesus call himself "The Way"?

 

[NotTheRock]

I apologize. I didn't mean to come across like, "Look-it-up-for-yourself-what's-wrong-with-you"...thing. More like, "Look-it-up-because-i'm-too-lazy-to-do-so-at-the-moment"

I didn't take it that way at all. All good brother.

 

[NotTheRock]

@Mink57

I gotta run but we can fellowship later. May God bless you!

 

[Mink57]

No. Jesus was sent to reconcile the world to the Father, not the universe.

In the Apostles day and age, the world WAS the universe!

And as I previously stated, that word isn't used in the Bible and so it's quite a leap to claim that the Apostles were the original founders of the Universal Church when, according to the scriptures, they referred to themselves as "The Way".

Christ wants ALL to come to him. To me, THAT'S universal. He didn't ONLY want a select few, although he knew that would happen.

The Catholic Church's problem is that about half of what they do and teach is unbiblical or in direct contradiction to Jesus.

There's a LOT of things that we do that are "unbiblical". Where is it in the bible that we should use computers? Or drive cars?

I'm kind of being tongue-in-cheek, but you get my drift.

Thing is, that much about Catholicism is steeped in tradition. For example, do you celebrate Christmas? That's tradition. Non-biblical, yet tradition. Do Catholics eat meat on Fridays? No. Not biblical but tradition.

Even though I'm Catholic, what I DON'T like is that IF we DO eat meat on Friday, it's a 'sin'. It's a sin because 'authority' says that we're not supposed to do that...and that according to the bible, we're supposed to adhere to 'authority'...and that by NOT doing so, it's a 'sin'.

Big. Fat. Eyeroll.