Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

[Behold]

That's not "Doctrine"; that's Tradition! No different that keeping a vase of ashes of "Aunt Betty" on the mantle.

Catholic "Relics" are not ashes of the dead........they are literal body parts, in many cases.
Organs.......skin.......and more.
There is a huge collection of dead body parts, in the Vatican.

"body parts'..........

Understand?

No CHRISTIAN is going to keep a body part of their deceased relative......

Would all be kind of hard to discuss without completely derailing this thread. Besides, by the time I finished researching all of those talking points, the Rapture would have probably already taken place.

It does not matter what you do with the info, as you are lost in Catholic Cult Tradition.
So, im writing to you, for the benefit of some of these Members, who had NO IDEA what your cult teaches, and does, and worships, and proclaims.

No, it's belief system is based on the NT...AND the OT (that is, before any books were removed)...AND the writings of the church father's...AND the writings of Saints...AND...the list goes on.

The true understanding of how the bible is viewd by the cult of mary, is simple.
It teaches that the bible is "incomplete" and so, the Cathoic leadership......adds to the bible, whatever they dream up next about Mary, for example to "complete it".

There is nothing in a NT, written by Paul or Peter, or James, or any apostle..... that elevates Mary to the position of authority that you find as "cult of mary" doctrine.
The Gospel says....>"Mary is blessed among women" and the "cult of Mary" redefined this as Blessed above them, as "co-author" of Salvation.
You will never find an Apostle "praying to mary" or "praying to a saint" or even suggesting it, as this is all man made "cult of mary" religious nonsense.

 

[Josho]

Christianity adopted new beliefs, like a requirement for wedding ceremonies and the moratoriums of polygamy and concubinage and slavery all occurred centuries after the biblical era and they are still learning things about women’s rights.

No requirement for a wedding ceremony to be married in the scriptures. And no moratoriums on polygamy and concubinage and slavery. Their fathers would be selling their daughter’s into sexual slavery.

These are some pretty concerning things you are posting there.... Polygamy, concubines? Seriously....... What about Romans 7:3?

 

[Behold]

Liar! Liar! Pants on fire!!!! Are you in 6th grade!
Read the sentence!
Nowhere did I say, that you said that Yeshua’s mother was a demon.
I was warning my Protestant friends.
Na na na na na na
Grow up!

You certainly sound like a "Theologian". @Grailhunter
Its good to see the real you, show up.
The members have noticed.

Listen... this is what you wrote to ME..

@Grailhunter ..

"""I am warning about calling the mother of Yeshua a demon."""""

So, you are warning me, as you posted that to ME, little one.... and i never said that Mary was a demon or has one.
Mary was in reality, a 14 yr old Jewish Girl........whom God graced as the Mother of Jesus.
This obvioulsy makes her special......but at the same time, she was a sinner needing the Gift of Salvation, that Jesus provides to everyone from The Cross., ... one believer at a time.

 

[CadyandZoe]

I get the impression that it has. They are very defensive about questioning Catholic doctrine.

I can't say for sure, but there seems to be a movement of the Holy Spirit around the world, and many new Christians are choosing Orthodox religions, such as Catholicism, as their faith. Many people are seeking reliable sources of truth, and assume that Orthodox churches are a good place to start. Ultimately, I trust that the Holy Spirit will lead them where they need to be.

 

[Behold]

Inew Christians are choosing Orthodox religions, such as Catholicism, as their faith.

Actually, you dont choose "orthodox religions" as your "faith".

You Choose to believe in Jesus, as your Faith.

So, when a person chooses the "cult of mary" or "the baptist church" or "the mormon church".....they are choosing a Denomination, not a "faith".

 

[Grailhunter]

These are some pretty concerning things you are posting there.... Polygamy, concubines? Seriously....... What about Romans 7:3?

I am almost scared to ask....What does Romans 7:3 have to do with this?

See the thing is, there are some absolutes….
As far as polygamy and concubinage….The scriptures never puts a moratorium on polygamy or concubinage……Christians practiced polygamy and concubinage for several centuries after the biblical era. The history gets a little deep on this.
Even Martin Luther said he could not condemn polygamy because the scriptures did not condemn it.
On the other hand I am not saying it was common.....

 

[Grailhunter]

You certainly sound like a "Theologian". @Grailhunter
Its good to see the real you, show up.
The members have noticed.

Listen... this is what you wrote to ME..

@Grailhunter ..

"""I am warning about calling the mother of Yeshua a demon."""""

So, you are warning me, as you posted that to ME, little one.... and i never said that Mary was a demon or has one.
Mary was in reality, a 14 yr old Jewish Girl........whom God graced as the Mother of Jesus.
This obvioulsy makes her special......but at the same time, she was a sinner needing the Gift of Salvation, that Jesus provides to everyone from The Cross., ... one believer at a time.

Never said you said she was a demon....but you sure are bringing it up a lot.

Are you a troll by nature

 

[Behold]

Even Martin Luther said he could not condemn polygamy because the scriptures did not condemn it.

Some of Luther's revelations came from the Holy Spirit, and some of them never did.
So, when using Luther to teach "justification by faith".......then that is accurate.
But when using Luther to try to prove that a Christian can have 40 wives, then just dont.

Luther also died believing and teching.....

"infant water baptism"......exactly as the "cult of mary" teaches that it brings eternal Salvation to the baby.

 

[Behold]

Never said you said she was a demon....but you sure are bringing it up a lot.

Are you a troll by nature

Im not being a "troll" when i quote your own post that foolishly implied that the Mods here, or any member, who does not view "Mary sightings" as stated by CATHOLICS.... are authentic and of God,....... = could very well end up "damned" in eternity. @Grailhunter

Did you want to restate that epic piece of insanity, or would you rather that you had never posted anything that crazy?

 

[Grailhunter]

Some of Luther's revelations came from the Holy Spirit, and some of them never did.
So, when using Luther to teach "justification by faith".......then that is accurate.
But when using Luther to try to prove that a Christian can have 40 wives, then just dont.

Luther also died believing and teching.....

"infant water baptism"......exactly as the "cult of mary" teaches that it brings eternal Salvation to the baby.

He was just noting that the scriptures never put a moratorium on polygamy or concubinage. He was not suggesting that people should do it. This is no secret, any biblical scholar or theologian knows this. And this is one of the down sides of being a Theologian….I deal with facts and truths and truths are good put as it goes sooner or later the truth will step on someone’s toes.

Grailhunter.....The Johnny Appleseed of Truth
Be good and do good

 

[Grailhunter]

Im not being a "troll" when i quote your own post that foolishly implied that the Mods here, or any member, who does not view "Mary sightings" as stated by CATHOLICS.... are authentic and of God,....... = could very well end up "damned" in eternity. @Grailhunter

Did you want to restate that epic piece of insanity, or would you rather that you had never posted anything that crazy?

Post please or shut up and grow up!

 

[Behold]

He was just noting that the scriptures never put a moratorium on polygamy or concubinage.

And the scriptures never tell us to drive a Tesla, vs a Honda.


Paul said that the apostle can have a wife with them......because that is understood as a marriage.

The Bible defines marriage as man and wife.......not man and wives., as you are trying to pretend.

He was not suggesting that people should do it. This is no secret, any biblical scholar or theologian knows this.

He is simply showing that he doesn't have an answer for this question.
Nothing more.

And this is one of the down sides of being a Theologian….I deal with facts and truths and truths are good put as it goes sooner or later the truth will step on someone’s toes.

No "theologian" would say that members on this forum, could be damned later on if they dont accept the Catholics claims regarding "visions of mary".
Now, a person who needs some professional help is certainly spotlighed by such a strange and carnal post.
And by professional help, i dont mean that one should seek guidence from a "cult of mary" priest, and that will just deepen the problem.

 

[Behold]

Post please or shut up and grow up!

Sure.

No "theologian" would say (as you posted) that members on this forum, """"could be damned later""""" if they dont accept the Catholic's claims regarding "visions of mary".
As a real Theologian, knows that its Christ Rejection, not "visions of mary" rejection" is what damns the unbeliever.

You've proven that you don't understand this.... @Grailhunter

 

[Grailhunter]

The Bible defines marriage as man and wife.......not man and wives., as you are trying to pretend.

I guess when you are wrong you are wrong big time......stop saying crazy things or I am going to put you on ignore…..
The Bible is full of wives…..the Mosaic Law regulated polygamy and concubinage and God took credit for King David’s wives. And Paul said if you are going to be a church leader you could only have one wife.

 

[Grailhunter]

And the scriptures never tell us to drive a Tesla, vs a Honda.


Paul said that the apostle can have a wife with them......because that is understood as a marriage.

The Bible defines marriage as man and wife.......not man and wives., as you are trying to pretend.



He is simply showing that he doesn't have an answer for this question.
Nothing more.




No "theologian" would say that members on this forum, could be damned later on if they dont accept the Catholics claims regarding "visions of mary".
Now, a person who needs some professional help is certainly spotlighed by such a strange and carnal post.
And by professional help, i dont mean that one should seek guidence from a "cult of mary" priest, and that will just deepen the problem.

Well here ya go.....I never said that and I do not have any patience for dirt stupid....on ignore you go

 

[Behold]

Well here ya go.....I never said that and I do not have any patience for dirt stupid....on ignore you go

@Grailhunter wrote.

Call these visitations and events just something. But if you call her demonic or these events demonic.... you might find yourself damned on Judgment Day. Just becareful my friends.""""

 

[CadyandZoe]

Actually, you dont choose "orthodox religions" as your "faith".

You Choose to believe in Jesus, as your Faith.

So, when a person chooses the "cult of mary" or "the baptist church" or "the mormon church".....they are choosing a Denomination, not a "faith".

Okay, I agree. However, I am referring to new believers who are just beginning their journey. There is a hunger and thirst for reliable sources of truth as people start to awaken to the presence of a deceptive spirit at work in the world. These new believers will need our patience and guidance as they mature in the faith. From the perspective of a new believer, Orthodox religions appear to be a place of safety. But I trust that the Holy Spirit will guide them to the truth.

 

[Behold]

The Bible is full of wives….

The bible is also full of Jews, are you one?

Listen, "context" is everything Mr Theologian..... regarding not just understanding verses, but teachig them........and the context of Marriage, began in Gen, with one man and one woman who created a family unit.

In the NT Church........ marriage has not changed.
Its not different for a NT christian, then it was for Mary and Joseph.
There was a wedding ceremony, and after Jesus was born, there was a consumation of their VOW.

 

[Behold]

Okay, I agree. However, I am referring to new believers who are just beginning their journey. There is a hunger and thirst for reliable sources of truth

Yes.

And its during this critical period with the new convert is "wide eyed" and wanting more of God, that Satan brings them a cult member.

This is why what Hebrews 13:9 teaches has to be the heart of a new believer, as otherwise the 2nd part of that verse, is going to happen to them, every single time.

 

[Mink57]

Catholic "Relics" are not ashes of the dead........they are literal body parts, in many cases.
Organs.......skin.......and more.
There is a huge collection of dead body parts, in the Vatican.

"body parts'..........

Understand?

And yet some cultures do the same thing. Yet, I don't hear you complaining about that.

No CHRISTIAN is going to keep a body part of their deceased relative......

I DO understand, but the RCC isn't telling individuals to keep "body parts". I understand that some saints lay as incorruptible. To me, that's somewhat miraculous.

It does not matter what you do with the info, as you are lost in Catholic Cult Tradition.
So, im writing to you, for the benefit of some of these Members, who had NO IDEA what your cult teaches, and does, and worships, and proclaims.

You don't know what the RCC teaches, either. As long as you make the claim that the RCC teaches us to "worship" Mary (or any other saint), you're given to false understanding about what the RCC actually teaches.

The true understanding of how the bible is viewd by the cult of mary, is simple.
It teaches that the bible is "incomplete" and so, the Cathoic leadership......adds to the bible, whatever they dream up next about Mary, for example to "complete it".

The Catholic "leadership" has in NO WAY added to the bible. However, it was the Protestants who removed books from the bible that had been part of the bible for over 1000 years.

Have you even looked into a Catholic bible? Have you compared a Catholic bible to a KJV? And compared BOTH versions to the original languages?

Have you looked into and read the Catholic Catechism? How about the Summa Theologica by St. Augustine? How about the Summa contra Gentiles by the same author?

There is nothing in a NT, written by Paul or Peter, or James, or any apostle..... that elevates Mary to the position of authority that you find as "cult of mary" doctrine.

You're right! Not disputing that. Nothing in the NT says that. Then again, the NT doesn't say a LOT of things AND, the RCC doesn't limit herself to ONLY the bible KNOWING that not everything about everything is IN the bible.

The Gospel says....>"Mary is blessed among women" and the "cult of Mary" redefined this as Blessed above them, as "co-author" of Salvation.
You will never find an Apostle "praying to mary" or "praying to a saint" or even suggesting it, as this is all man made "cult of mary" religious nonsense.

The Gospel DOES say that Mary is "blessed among women." That plus she gave birth to our Savior automatically elevates her to a 'higher' position.

The Apostles never "prayed to Mary" because Mary was still alive at the time. Also, let's not forget that even though Jesus had no problem with women, the Apostles sure did! Consider their attitude when the women went to them telling them that 'Christ is risen'. (paraphrasing).

Think about it.