When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

[Spiritual Israelite]

I don't understand your point. The disciples were not asked. They did the asking.

I meant that they did not ask about it. That was just a typo.

OK let me revise that.

It is simply inconceivable that with the discourse which relates to the 70 AD era, there is no reference to its end.

Why does the 70 AD era specifically have to be referred to as "the end"? They did not ask about "the end" of Jerusalem, they asked about "the end" of the age.

 

[covenantee]

I meant that they did not ask about it. That was just a typo.


Why does the 70 AD era specifically have to be referred to as "the end"? They did not ask about "the end" of Jerusalem, they asked about "the end" of the age.

Matthew 24
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

You don't think they wanted to know when the temple would be destroyed?

 

[WPM]

John 13
1 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.

He loved them unto the end of the world which had not and has not yet occurred?

Yes, His love does not stop! Correct!

 

[WPM]

I meant that they did not ask about it. That was just a typo.


Why does the 70 AD era specifically have to be referred to as "the end"? They did not ask about "the end" of Jerusalem, they asked about "the end" of the age.

Exactly! Preterists are fixated with AD70. it was only a blip on the radar of history. Scripture is focused in on the First and Second Advents.

 

[covenantee]

Yes, His love does not stop! Correct!

Do you understand what tense "loved" is?

 

[covenantee]

Exactly! Preterists are fixated with AD70. it was only a blip on the radar of history. Scripture is focused in on the First and Second Advents.

Jesus was the greatest preterist who ever lived. He fulfilled every one of the OT prophecies about Himself long before 70 AD.

 

[WPM]

Do you understand what tense "loved" is?

Yes. It is in the text.

Now, can you address my posts?

 

[WPM]

Jesus was the greatest preterist who ever lived. He fulfilled every one of the OT prophecies about Himself long before 70 AD.

Yes, He was a Partial Preterist and a Futurist. But he was NOT fixated on AD 70. His focus was His First and Second Advents. Nowhere did He consider AD70 the end of the old covenant. It was abolished at the cross.

 

[covenantee]

Yes. It is in the text.

Now, can you address my posts?

Yes. He had loved (past tense) them, and He continued (past tense) to love them for the duration of His time with them before His departure.

Nothing to do with the end of the world.

 

[WPM]

Yes. He had loved (past tense) them, and He continued (past tense) to love them for the duration of His time with them before His departure.

Nothing to do with the end of the world.

So, He stopped loving them when they died?

 

[covenantee]

Yes, He was a Partial Preterist and a Futurist. But he was NOT fixated on AD 70. His focus was His First and Second Advents. Nowhere did He consider AD70 the end of the old covenant. It was abolished at the cross.

Was He fixated on it while delivering His Olivet Discourse?

 

[WPM]

Yes. He had loved (past tense) them, and He continued (past tense) to love them for the duration of His time with them before His departure.

Nothing to do with the end of the world.

When are you going to address my detailed posts? Your one-liners are not cutting it.

 

[WPM]

Was He fixated on it while delivering His Olivet Discourse?

Absolutely. While He addresses the disciples question re the temple, He speaks often of His future return (and the end).

 

[covenantee]

So, He stopped loving them when they died?

So, He loved them to the end of the world which had not and has not yet occurred?

 

[covenantee]

When are you going to address my detailed posts? Your one-liners are not cutting it.

I've addressed everything that I intend to address.

 

[covenantee]

Absolutely. While He addresses the disciples question re the temple, He speaks often of His future return (and the end).

Does He tell His disciples when the temple will be destroyed?

 

[WPM]

So, He loved them to the end of the world which had not and has not yet occurred?

His love continues. Yes! His love then carries over into eternity.

1Co 13:8 Charity (agape love) never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
1Co 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
1Co 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

 

[WPM]

Does He tell His disciples when the temple will be destroyed?

Yes. But when does He say that is the end of the old covenant, as you claim?

 

[covenantee]

His love continues. Yes! His love then carries over into eternity.

1Co 13:8 Charity (agape love) never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
1Co 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
1Co 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

See post 849.

 

[WPM]

I've addressed everything that I intend to address.

LOL. Which is nothing. I understand.