Clarifying what "body" is.

[ElieG12]

There are many texts in the Bible where the Greek word for "body" is used. That's why it's important to understand some details about what the word "body" in the Bible can mean.

First, let's clarify that angels, although invisible to our eyes, also have a "body" that distinguishes each of them in the spirit world. Obviously, the "substance" that constitutes these spirit-bodies is not the same as the flesh, blood, bones, etc. that make up our living bodies.

An example where understanding this is clarifying is the case with Jesus dying and then being resurrected. Some think that when Jesus died physically after being murdered, he continued to live in another kind of body, and that the word "resurrection" only has to do with "that" physical dead body and not with any kind of body that could represent the living Jesus. Ask yourself: What kind of "body" did Jesus have before he was born as a human?

Another issue that becomes clear when we understand this matter is why the Bible says that Jesus raised "his body" on the third day after he died, since in that case the word "body" has to do with something related to the "spiritual" body that was formed when the first of its members was resurrected, and to which body other members will be attached... the anointed spiritual brothers of Jesus.

Have you ever considered that when the Bible speaks of "body" it is not limited to the bodies we can see?

 

[marks]

Have you ever considered that when the Bible speaks of "body" it is not limited to the bodies we can see?

Context, as they say, is king.

Much love!

 

[marks]

Another issue that becomes clear when we understand this matter is why the Bible says that Jesus raised "his body" on the third day after he died, since in that case the word "body" has to do with something related to the "spiritual" body that was formed when the first of its members was resurrected, and to which body other members will be attached... the anointed spiritual brothers of Jesus.

In this case, considering Jesus made it a point to demonstrate to the disciples that He was NOT a spirit, but had a body, flesh and bone, we can know that is exactly what was true. Jesus resurrected physically from the tomb, in a body that could be felt, touched, He could eat. And He declared He was not just a spirit, but still has a material body.

There is also the body of Christ, composed of those who are in Him. This should not be taken to negate Jesus' teaching and demonstration of His physical resurrection.

Much love!

 

[talons]

First, let's clarify that angels, although invisible to our eyes, also have a "body" that distinguishes each of them in the spirit world.

Do you have scripture that backs up your statement of the angels distinguishing bodies ?

 

[Behold]

the "spiritual" body that was formed when the first of its members was resurrected, and to which body other members will be attached

1 Cor 15:44

1 Cor 15:49

 

[ElieG12]

Do you have scripture that backs up your statement of the angels distinguishing bodies ?

I could mention several texts that prove that angels have individual bodies in a different dimension than ours, but the simple fact that each of them has their own personal name I think is proof enough.

 

[marks]

I could mention several texts that prove that angels have individual bodies in a different dimension than ours, but the simple fact that each of them has their own personal name I think is proof enough.

Yes, it's in the Bible that at least certain ones have individual names, but it would be purely an assumption to claim each have a unique appearance, we don't actually know that.

Much love!

 

[talons]

I could mention several texts that prove that angels have individual bodies in a different dimension than ours, but the simple fact that each of them has their own personal name I think is proof enough.

Oh , I thought you maybe had proof in the scripture to offer . Carry on .

 

[ElieG12]

Oh , I thought you maybe had proof in the scripture to offer . Carry on .

You can check the Scriptures by yourself. Have you never read that all of God's children are presented before him in assembly, or texts that demonstrate that all of them can literally be counted numerically?

If you can't reason your own questions through the answers offered to you, why ask questions?

 

[talons]

You can check the Scriptures by yourself.

Yes I did and you did too and you found nothing in the Bible to prove your statement below about the body of an angel .

First, let's clarify that angels, although invisible to our eyes, also have a "body" that distinguishes each of them in the spirit world.

 

[ElieG12]

Perhaps what you understand as "body" is not what I understand it to mean.

A body doesn't have to be solid or even visible from a human perspective. A "body", IMHO, is anything that can be distinguished independently from its surroundings because since it has a perimeter that limits its presence in a distinguishable way, it becomes countable. Furthermore, it can be given an individual name to define it and also differentiate it from other bodies that are similar to it, that is, to distinguish it from others.

That way I understand it easily explains why angels have individual names; they are presented before God as a group but distinguishable from one another, as in 2 Chron. 18:18-22. It also explains what the angel Gabriel said to Daniel about other spirits in Daniel 10:21, showing that they have their own capacity for independent thought. It also explains why spirits are referred to numerically in Scripture, using terms like myriads of myriads and other numerical expressions.

 

[marks]

Oh , I thought you maybe had proof in the scripture to offer . Carry on .

Not everyone seems to require proof. For myself, I prefer to work with what we actually know.

Much love!

 

[talons]

Perhaps what you understand as "body" is not what I understand it to mean.

A body doesn't have to be solid or even visible from a human perspective. A "body", IMHO, is anything that can be distinguished independently from its surroundings because since it has a perimeter that limits its presence in a distinguishable way, it becomes countable. Furthermore, it can be given an individual name to define it and also differentiate it from other bodies that are similar to it, that is, to distinguish it from others.

That way I understand it easily explains why angels have individual names; they are presented before God as a group but distinguishable from one another, as in 2 Chron. 18:18-22. It also explains what the angel Gabriel said to Daniel about other spirits in Daniel 10:21, showing that they have their own capacity for independent thought. It also explains why spirits are referred to numerically in Scripture, using terms like myriads of myriads and other numerical expressions.

It is way above my pay grade to be counting invisible bodies so I will leave you to it .