The New Covenant Is The same as the Old Covenant but Internalized in our hearts

[Spiritual Israelite]

OK Guys, you who know better than GOD and Jesus who said clearly to Follow the commandments that are the covenant,
PLease tell me then what the new covenant holds, I want the details of what you say here

@PS95 @Spiritual Israelite @Dash RipRock

I want you guys to tell me , define to me what the New Covenant is, please do give the details, what does it contain exactly, surely it must be written somewhere in scripture? Use scripture to prove your point as I have!

Address what I said in posts 16 and 17 and then I will address this post. I don't take part in one way discussions where I am the only one who addresses the other person's points.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Address what I said in posts 16 and 17 and then I will address this post. I don't take part in one way discussions where I am the only one who addresses the other person's points.

no answer for me... I thought so. ill look at your posts no problem.

 

[LoveYeshua]

You can't just ignore that it says the old covenant was made obsolete.

the way of following the new covenant is through the Holy spirit but the laws within the covenanr temson thw same please read Jeremiah 31:31-33, what is obsolete if to follow these laws the way the pharisees did.

It was replaced by the new covenant that was established by the blood of Christ. The new covenant is summed up with only 2 commandments rather than with over 600 commandments like in the old covenant law of Mose.

simmed up does not erase the ten commandments. also the topic here is NOT the laws of Moses, most of them cannot be followed today as the sacrifices are no longerr necessary.

Those 2 commandments are to love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and mind and to love your neighbor as yourself. Those 2 commandments sum up all of the law and prophets (Matthew 22:37-40).

again jesus did teach the ten commandments, magnofied them and summed them up in 2, we need to follow all of them , I gave you proof pf this, we have to follow what jesus did ask us to do.

Jesus simplified everything by commanding us to love God and love others.

simplified but nor removed one little bit, and not one letter of the law, he said so;

Mat 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. Mat 5:18 For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

The new covenant is far better

yes its tru that the new covenant is much better

than the old covenant because it is all about grace and love rather than having the burden of obeying many commandments and keeping the law of Moses,

are you a jew that you would need to keep 613 laws, jesus never said so just the 10 comamndments!

yes its tru that the new covenant is much better which no one but Jesus could do perfectly. And if someone broke even one commandment of the law of Moses they were guilty of breaking them all (James 2:10).

the price is sin was paid, if we all fail a few times and we do God know the state of our hearts, jesus ask us rto repend and sin no nore, it is a learning process but we can get there if we try, know that the Holy Spirit helps us ans teaches us!

Keeping the law of Moses was an impossible standard, but Jesus has set us free from the curse of the law (Read Galatians 3).

the curse of the law is breaking it = death, this is no longer the case if we try to uphold it and Love God.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

no answer for me... I thought so. ill look at your posts no problem.

No answer until you answer me first. That's only fair.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

the way of following the new covenant is through the Holy spirit but the laws within the covenanr temson thw same please read Jeremiah 31:31-33, what is obsolete if to follow these laws the way the pharisees did.

You don't accept that the old covenant laws were made obsolete even though scripture says they were. That doesn't mean we are now free to steal and murder and so on. But, we are now under the law of Christ and not under the law of Moses.

Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

Loving others is what we are commanded to do. If you do that, then you can't go wrong. You won't steal from others. You won't murder them. You won't covet what they have. And so on.

simmed up does not erase the ten commandments. also the topic here is NOT the laws of Moses, most of them cannot be followed today as the sacrifices are no longerr necessary.

Wrong. The old covenant refers to the law of Moses which consisted of 613 commandments, including the ten commandments.

again jesus did teach the ten commandments, magnofied them and summed them up in 2, we need to follow all of them , I gave you proof pf this, we have to follow what jesus did ask us to do.

The law of Christ, according to Paul in Galatians 6:2, can be done by loving others and bearing each other's burdens. Why complicate what Jesus made simple?

simplified but nor removed one little bit, and not one letter of the law, he said so;

Mat 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. Mat 5:18 For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

The law and prophets were fulfilled in Christ. So, in order to follow the law and prophets ,we must obey the law of Christ by loving others and bearing each other's burdens.

yes its tru that the new covenant is much better

It's far better. But, how do you think it is better?

are you a jew that you would need to keep 613 laws, jesus never said so just the 10 comamndments!

Jesus never commanded Christians to follow the Ten Commandments. This is what people try to say when they act as if we are obligated to keep the Sabbath like the Jews were commanded to do. The law of Christ is to love others. Very simple. If you do that, you can't go wrong.

the price is sin was paid, if we all fail a few times and we do God know the state of our hearts, jesus ask us rto repend and sin no nore, it is a learning process but we can get there if we try, know that the Holy Spirit helps us ans teaches us!

the curse of the law is breaking it = death, this is no longer the case if we try to uphold it and Love God.

You think you can be sinless? Is that what you're trying to tell me? If so, then why do you need Jesus?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

OK Guys, you who know better than GOD and Jesus who said clearly to Follow the commandments that are the covenant,
PLease tell me then what the new covenant holds, I want the details of what you say here

@PS95 @Spiritual Israelite @Dash RipRock

I want you guys to tell me , define to me what the New Covenant is, please do give the details, what does it contain exactly, surely it must be written somewhere in scripture? Use scripture to prove your point as I have!

Now that you addressed my posts (sort of), I will now address yours.

The new covenant is the covenant by which salvation and the forgiveness of sins is promised by way of one putting their faith and trust in Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.

Matthew 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

The new covenant is all about Jesus shedding His blood for the sins of the whole world in order to give the whole world the opportunity to be saved, to have their sins forgiven and to inherit eternal life.

Hebrews 9:15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

Hebrews 9:27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

Hebrews 10:5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me; 6 with burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased. 7 Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll— I have come to do your will, my God.’” 8 First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law. 9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Do you think we have to keep the commandments perfectly to have eternal life? If not, then how often do we need to keep them in order to have eternal life?

NO difficult it has a learning curve, we are influenced not to follow the commandments, we live in a world that is contrary to love ot is why it is difficult but we must do our best. God is testing us!

I thought we were saved by grace through faith, but now you are telling us we are saved by our works and our own righteousness instead? You might want to rethink what Jesus was saying there so that you don't contradict the other scriptures which say we are saved by grace through faith and not by works of the law or of righteousness.

And why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do what I say? (luke 6:46)

Jesus expects us to demonstrate our faith, doing good around us to put in practice this Love we know about, Not to be saved by these actions to be saved because we truly Love God and our neighbour

as for contradict scripture perhape ypu have it in reverse?

What Jesus was doing there was showing that person that no one was good, including him (that person). That person thought he could earn his salvation by doing good works and asked Jesus which "good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life". He was essentially asking Jesus how he could earn eternal life, which we know cannot be done. We cannot earn our own salvation by works.

Jesus was addressing that person's faulty perspective. He was saying that in order to obtain eternal life that way, by doing good works, He would have to obey those commandments perfectly.

But, Jesus knew that person could not do that. He was showing that person that he could not be saved that way. It's unbelievable that you think Jesus was telling him he could be saved that way. Not at all1 that would require sinless perfection! Do you not understand that we are saved by grace through faith and not by works?

Look at what was said right after that.

Matthew 19:20 “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”

See here how the young man realized that obeying the commandments Jesus mentioned was not enough to obtain eternal life, despite what Jesus said? He knew he was still lacking something.

Matthew 19:21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” 22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

Jesus addressed the young man's faulty idea that he could earn eternal life by being good ,

and doing good works by referring to what he knew was the young man's biggest weakness.

His greed and love of material things. Jesus knew that he would not be willing to give those things up, but in order to be a Christian you have to be willing to give up everything for Him and to follow Him. That is what Jesus was teaching the young man rather than saying that he could obtain eternal life by keeping God's commandments, which is absolutely false since that would require sinless perfection.

Let’s look at the full exchange, simply and clearly, with no opinions—only what Jesus said and meant.

When the rich young man asked, “What good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?” (Matthew 19:16), Jesus responded first by pointing him to God as the only true source of goodness. He said, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.” This was not to deny His own divinity but to correct the man’s casual use of the word “good,” and to redirect him toward God’s standard.

Then Jesus clearly said: “But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.” (v. 17)


The man asked which ones, and Jesus listed several from the Ten Commandments: “You shall not murder,” “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “Honor your father and your mother,” and “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” (v. 18–19)


The young man replied, “All these I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?” (v. 20)


Jesus then answered with love and truth: “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” (v. 21)


But the man went away sad because he had great possessions (v. 22).


Now, the truth in Jesus' words is simple:

Jesus did not say that no one can keep the commandments. In fact, He said, “If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.” He meant it. The young man asked sincerely, and Jesus answered sincerely. Obedience was, and still is, part of walking with God.

Jesus knew the man’s heart. Though he claimed to keep the commandments, his love for wealth showed he hadn’t truly kept the commandment to “love your neighbor as yourself”, nor had he made God his true treasure. Jesus exposed the one thing the man lacked: complete trust and surrender. That’s why Jesus said, “If you want to be perfect…”—He was offering him the next step, to fully follow Him, which means to let go of earthly things and walk in full obedience.

So, Jesus wasn’t showing the man that salvation by obedience is impossible. He was showing that obedience must be real, from the heart, and include surrender. The commandments aren't abolished; they’re the path of life—but only if we follow them with our whole heart, putting God first. That’s why Jesus invited him to “come, follow Me.”

In short, Jesus’ answer was honest, not a trick. He told the truth: to enter life, keep the commandments. And to be perfect, let go of all idols—like wealth—and follow Him fully. The man turned away, not because salvation was impossible, but because he wasn’t willing to give up what stood between him and God.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Now that you addressed my posts (sort of), I will now address yours.

The new covenant is the covenant by which salvation and the forgiveness of sins is promised by way of one putting their faith and trust in Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.

Matthew 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

The new covenant is all about Jesus shedding His blood for the sins of the whole world in order to give the whole world the opportunity to be saved, to have their sins forgiven and to inherit eternal life.

I will just reply to this now, I an lacking time but will contunue probably tomorrow;

When Jesus said, “This is My blood of the new covenant” (Matthew 26:28), He was connecting His own sacrifice to the Old Covenant ceremony in Exodus 24, where Moses sealed the covenant with the blood of animals. In that event, the people promised to obey God's commandments, and blood was sprinkled to confirm the agreement.

But now, Jesus was offering His own blood—not the blood of animals—to seal a new and better covenant. This new covenant was not just based on written laws and outward obedience, but on forgiveness, inner transformation, and a restored relationship with God. His blood replaced the old sacrifices and made a way for true and lasting cleansing from sin. It showed that God was making a new promise through Jesus—one that brings life, mercy, and access to Him for all who follow His Son.

do you see the link between the 2?

Jesus did start on the cross wit his blood the new covenant! it started then, then after his ascention to heaven he promised to send us the holy spirit, but i will continut thos later I have to go, have a good day.

Hebrews 9:15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

Hebrews 9:27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

Hebrews 10:5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me; 6 with burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased. 7 Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll— I have come to do your will, my God.’” 8 First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law. 9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Now that you addressed my posts (sort of), I will now address yours.

The new covenant is the covenant by which salvation and the forgiveness of sins is promised by way of one putting their faith and trust in Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.

Matthew 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

The new covenant is all about Jesus shedding His blood for the sins of the whole world in order to give the whole world the opportunity to be saved, to have their sins forgiven and to inherit eternal life.

Hebrews 9:15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

Hebrews 9:27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

Hebrews 10:5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me; 6 with burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased. 7 Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll— I have come to do your will, my God.’” 8 First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law. 9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

sorry about no reply to post 16 nd 17 I probably forgot or tought i did.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

NO difficult it has a learning curve, we are influenced not to follow the commandments, we live in a world that is contrary to love ot is why it is difficult but we must do our best. God is testing us!

What does that mean when you say "we must do our best"? What if we don't do our best?

And why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do what I say? (luke 6:46)

Jesus expects us to demonstrate our faith, doing good around us to put in practice this Love we know about, Not to be saved by these actions to be saved because we truly Love God and our neighbour

As long as you understand that we don't do good works in order to be saved or to maintain our salvation, but we do them as an expression of our faith in Christ.

Let’s look at the full exchange, simply and clearly, with no opinions—only what Jesus said and meant.

When the rich young man asked, “What good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?” (Matthew 19:16), Jesus responded first by pointing him to God as the only true source of goodness. He said, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.” This was not to deny His own divinity but to correct the man’s casual use of the word “good,” and to redirect him toward God’s standard.

Then Jesus clearly said: “But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.” (v. 17)

Jesus was aiming to show the young man that we can't be saved by our works or by perfectly keeping the commandments. He knew that the young man had a weakness of being too attached to his wealth, which He ended up addressing.

If you think we gain eternal life by keeping the commandments, then tell me exactly how well we need to keep the commandments in order to gain eternal life. If that was the case, then this is too important for you to just say we have to do the best we can. If what you believe was true, it would be vital to know how well we need to keep the commandments. Perfectly at all times? Or maybe keep them 75% of the time? Tell me exactly what we need to do to obtain eternal life, as you understand it.

The man asked which ones, and Jesus listed several from the Ten Commandments: “You shall not murder,” “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “Honor your father and your mother,” and “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” (v. 18–19)


The young man replied, “All these I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?” (v. 20)

So, clearly, even the young man realized that keeping the commandments was not enough to gain eternal life. There was something he was missing and he realized it. But, he didn't know what it was.

Jesus then answered with love and truth: “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” (v. 21)


But the man went away sad because he had great possessions (v. 22).


Now, the truth in Jesus' words is simple:

Jesus did not say that no one can keep the commandments.

What are you even saying here? Be more specific so that I don't have to guess as to what you might be saying. Are you saying that He did not say that no one can keep the commandments perfectly? If that was possible, then why would we need Jesus?

In fact, He said, “If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.” He meant it. The young man asked sincerely, and Jesus answered sincerely. Obedience was, and still is, part of walking with God.

How much of the time do we have to keep the commandments to obtain eternal life? If you can't answer this question without any kind of precision, then I have no reason to take you seriously at all. You can't try to claim that we are required to keep the commandments in order to obtain eternal life without explaining exactly what that means. Eternal life is too important to not be able to explain exactly how someone can obtain it.

Jesus knew the man’s heart. Though he claimed to keep the commandments, his love for wealth showed he hadn’t truly kept the commandment to “love your neighbor as yourself”, nor had he made God his true treasure. Jesus exposed the one thing the man lacked: complete trust and surrender. That’s why Jesus said, “If you want to be perfect…”—He was offering him the next step, to fully follow Him, which means to let go of earthly things and walk in full obedience.

So, you think that we can only obtain eternal life if we walk in full obedience to Christ? As in, you think we can only obtain eternal life if we get to the point where we are sinless and are perfectly obeying Christ? If so, how was the thief on the cross saved? Can't you see that you are teaching salvation by our own works and righteousness here, which contradicts scripture (Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:5)?

So, Jesus wasn’t showing the man that salvation by obedience is impossible.

Of course that is impossible! If that was possible we wouldn't need Jesus! You have no idea of how insulting your beliefs are to Jesus! We are saved by grace through faith and NOT by works of righteousness (not by our own righteousness). We can NOT earn salvation by our works or our obedience.

He was showing that obedience must be real, from the heart, and include surrender.

Yes, our faith must be sincere with the intention of surrendering our hearts to Jesus, but nowhere does scripture say that we are then required to become perfect and sinless in order to obtain eternal life. If we could do that, then we would not need Jesus and His sacrifice for our sins.

The commandments aren't abolished; they’re the path of life—but only if we follow them with our whole heart, putting God first. That’s why Jesus invited him to “come, follow Me.”

In short, Jesus’ answer was honest, not a trick. He told the truth: to enter life, keep the commandments. And to be perfect, let go of all idols—like wealth—and follow Him fully. The man turned away, not because salvation was impossible, but because he wasn’t willing to give up what stood between him and God.

Your works-based and righteousness-based doctrine of salvation is not taught anywhere in scripture. May God have mercy on your soul for thinking we can earn our salvation by our own righteousness, which is impossible.

 

[PS95]

OK Guys, you who know better than GOD and Jesus who said clearly to Follow the commandments that are the covenant,
PLease tell me then what the new covenant holds, I want the details of what you say here

@PS95 @Spiritual Israelite @Dash RipRock

I want you guys to tell me , define to me what the New Covenant is, please do give the details, what does it contain exactly, surely it must be written somewhere in scripture? Use scripture to prove your point as I have!

You begin with the accusation that we know better than GOD? I don't appreciate that spirit. I've given you scriptures and you've ignored them. I've told you that LOVE fulfills the law. That is what scriptures plainly teach. Being born anew produces a change in the heart- THAT is KEY. It is not about outward things or foods or days etc. It is an inward work by the Spirit of God to Love God and fellow man-- LOVE does not hate nor is it arrogant which is murder. Follow the concept through the commands and you will see it is true. it's not as if I made it up. It is written.

I will take Paul's advice here-
For we also once were foolish ourselves, disobedient, deceived, enslaved to various lusts and pleasures, spending our life in malice and envy, hateful, hating one another. 4But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, 5He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, 6whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7so that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. 8This is a trustworthy statement; and concerning these things I want you to speak confidently, so that those who have believed God will be careful to engage in good deeds. These things are good and profitable for men. 9But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about the Law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. 10Reject a factious man after a first and second warning, 11knowing that such a man is perverted and is sinning, being self-condemned.

 

[Dash RipRock]

Use scripture to prove your point as I have!

Where did you prove from scripture that Christians are supposed to live under the old covenant, the Law of Moses?

You should study the New Testament which is the New Covenant. Yes, God's moral law is still applicable in the New Covenant but how we are to keep it is totally different than what was expected of God's people under the old covenant.

The law of Moses under the OLD Covenant was not the end destination that the Lord desired for man. The NEW Covenant is the desired end destination God desires for man which is for His people to be born again abiding In the Body Christ with the Holy Spirit abiding in them. The New Covenant is based on better promises than the old covenant was. (Hebrews 8:6)

The sabbath was ordained as part of the Mosaic Law in Exodus 20:8-11. Moses served as a high priest (Exodus 28:1) and as a prophet of the Lord, and He was faithful in his calling over his house (the old covenant).

Hebrews 3:5,6 - And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after; But Christ as a Son over His own house; whose house are we, IF we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

Now, there is a new house, the Body of Jesus Christ! Under the New Covenant that the Lord said would come forth, we see Jesus Christ as the High Priest. The old covenant with it’s laws and regulations have been taken away because thru Jesus Christ a new and better covenant has come in to place.

Hebrews 10:9 - Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. (God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6 - But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12 - For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

 

[Dash RipRock]

What does that mean when you say "we must do our best"? What if we don't do our best?

Matthew 7:14 - Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Luke 13:24 - Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

Jesus did say to strive to enter in, and the way this is done in the New Covenant is to abide IN Christ by submitting our lives to Him as we fight the good fight of faith (1 Timothy 6:12)

I can do all things through Christ Who strengthen me (Philippians 4:13), which is how we strive as we fight the good fight of faith by submitting ourselves unto the Holy Spirit allowing Him to make us strong in God's Word

This is not earning our salvation or doing things in our own strength and ability as the unlearned falsely claim, this is being a true son of God by being led by the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:14) based on God's Word (See John 16:13, and John 17:17) to be obedient to the Lord to abide IN Him.

 

[Dash RipRock]

I've told you that LOVE fulfills the law.

Did you mention WHAT Love is?

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

The commandments spoken of here are the Law of Christ and we walk in this by submission to the Holy Spirit

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Matthew 7:14 - Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Luke 13:24 - Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

Jesus did say to strive to enter in, and the way this is done in the New Covenant is to abide IN Christ by submitting our lives to Him as we fight the good fight of faith (1 Timothy 6:12)

I can do all things through Christ Who strengthen me (Philippians 4:13), which is how we strive as we fight the good fight of faith by submitting ourselves unto the Holy Spirit allowing Him to make us strong in God's Word

This is not earning our salvation or doing things in our own strength and ability as the unlearned falsely claim, this is being a true son of God by being led by the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:14) based on God's Word (See John 16:13, and John 17:17) to be obedient to the Lord to abide IN Him.

Let him answer the question. I don't disagree with anything you're saying here, but I'm not so sure he would agree. He seems to think we need to attain to a certain level of righteousness, or even perfect sinlessness, in order to be saved or to maintain our salvation, which is not what scripture teaches.

 

[PS95]

Did you mention WHAT Love is?

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

The commandments spoken of here are the Law of Christ and we walk in this by submission to the Holy Spirit

Please read all i have written here before commenting.

Romans 13:8-10
Be indebted to no one, except to one another in love. For he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. The commandments “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,” and any other commandments, are summed up in this one decree: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no wrong to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

James 2:8
If you really fulfill the royal law stated in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well.

1 John 4:7
Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.

2 John 1:6
And this is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the very commandment you have heard from the beginning, that you must walk in love.

2 Jo 1:5
And now I urge you, dear lady—not as a new commandment to you, but one we have had from the beginning—that we love one another.

1 John 3:23-24
And this is His commandment: that we should believe in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ, and we should love one another just as He commanded us. / Whoever keeps His commandments remains in God, and God in him. And by this we know that He remains in us: by the Spirit He has given us.
2 John 1:6
And this is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the very commandment you have heard from the beginning, that you must walk in love.
1 John 4:21
And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

Matthew 22:37-40
Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ / This is the first and greatest commandment. / And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ ...
Galations 5:14
For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.”

Ephesians 5:1-2
Be imitators of God, therefore, as beloved children, / and walk in love, just as Christ loved us and gave Himself up for us as a fragrant sacrificial offering to God.

1 Peter 1:22
Since you have purified your souls by obedience to the truth so that you have a genuine love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from a pure heart.

1 Thessalonians 4:9
Now about brotherly love, you do not need anyone to write to you, because you yourselves have been taught by God to love one another.

 

[Dash RipRock]

Please read all i have written here before commenting.

I did not see where you stated what the Lord of God actually is

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Please read all i have written here before commenting.

Romans 13:8-10
Be indebted to no one, except to one another in love. For he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. The commandments “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,” and any other commandments, are summed up in this one decree: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no wrong to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

James 2:8
If you really fulfill the royal law stated in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well.

1 John 4:7
Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.

2 John 1:6
And this is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the very commandment you have heard from the beginning, that you must walk in love.

2 Jo 1:5
And now I urge you, dear lady—not as a new commandment to you, but one we have had from the beginning—that we love one another.

1 John 3:23-24
And this is His commandment: that we should believe in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ, and we should love one another just as He commanded us. / Whoever keeps His commandments remains in God, and God in him. And by this we know that He remains in us: by the Spirit He has given us.
2 John 1:6
And this is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the very commandment you have heard from the beginning, that you must walk in love.
1 John 4:21
And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

Matthew 22:37-40
Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ / This is the first and greatest commandment. / And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ ...
Galations 5:14
For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.”

Ephesians 5:1-2
Be imitators of God, therefore, as beloved children, / and walk in love, just as Christ loved us and gave Himself up for us as a fragrant sacrificial offering to God.

1 Peter 1:22
Since you have purified your souls by obedience to the truth so that you have a genuine love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from a pure heart.

1 Thessalonians 4:9
Now about brotherly love, you do not need anyone to write to you, because you yourselves have been taught by God to love one another.

Amen. And I'd like to add one more verse to this which doesn't specifically mention the word love, but is clearly about loving others as well.

Galatians 6:2 Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.

Obviously, if you love others than you will carry their burdens and, by doing that, "you will fulfill the law of Christ". That is how we keep God's commandments. You show your love of God by obeying His command to love others.

Love God, Love People

 

[Dash RipRock]

but is clearly about loving others as well.

Funny how a lot of folks always talk about loving others as though loving others comes before loving the Lord. Weird.

Matthew 10:37 - He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Those loving others more than the Lord are in big trouble and need to put the Lord first place in their lives!

So here is what the Love of God is:

1 John 5:3 - For this IS the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Funny how a lot of folks always talk about loving others as though loving others comes before loving the Lord. Weird.

What are you talking about? I was doing no such thing. I said, which you did not quote, "You show your love of God by obeying His command to love others.". Why did you fail to quote that while just quoting a small part of what I said while misrepresenting what I said in my post, overall?

Matthew 10:37 - He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Those loving others more than the Lord are in big trouble and need to put the Lord first place in their lives!

So here is what the Love of God is:

1 John 5:3 - For this IS the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Nowhere did I say otherwise! How do we show that we love God? By obeying His command to love others. We're not going to love others if we don't first love God and want to obey God.