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Of course it does, and that doesn't relate to what I said. If your manner of handling the Scriptures is the same as you manner of reading people's posts, well, that makes a certain sense.
I agree but the point is that this indicates he was sanctified in the inner man, the new man, which delighted in the law of God, while still doing battle with the old man of the flesh. Rom 7:25 says with the mind he was serving God, but the flesh was still serving the law of sin. So I was just saying I think the Gnostics were right on that particular point (even though they err in the main).
Yes I agree....I usually mean the whole package of the fallen old man flesh nature when I say flesh, which includes our bodies. The fallen nature resides in our fallen bodies of flesh...this is why our bodies need to "put on immortality" in the end...to become spiritual. (Soul and body exist as a unit...this is why Jesus said to fear Him who can destroy body and soul). The redemption of our soul means the redemption of our bodies in the end. But while we are alive in the body we need to put the old man of the flesh, including our fleshly bodies, under our feet. To walk above it all, so to speak. Render it inert, reckon it dead. I think that is what walking in the spirit means. We can still go in and out of the spirit until/unless that flesh nature (including the body) is finally and permanently put under our/Christ's feet being conquered, overcome, and ruled over by Christ in us. I think that is also the imagery in Rev. of the woman, bride of Christ/heavenly Zion, with the moon under her feet....she has overcome, is victorious, over her old nature and flesh . I hope I'm making sense and expressing it properly, my brain is not terribly awake this morning.
And you still refuse to acknowledge the Scriptures I've shown to you. Your deflections may amuse yourself. But they don't bring you to truth.
You need to revisist those passages, and read them for what they actually say. And stop adding to them! Your words do not equal God's words.
This is carnal reasoning. Sin separates us from God. Repentance brings God's mercy. If you think salvation is unconditional then you are anti-law...basically lawless. Grace gives us the power to walk in accordance with God's law.
No, this is plainly stated Scripture. You either believe it or disbelieve it. There is no question about what the words tell us. Many will add and take away, but I suggest we pay attention to what God says, no adding or removing.
Absolutely True.
Amen!
Conditional in what way?
Do you promote the Mosaic Law for all the redeemed?
I've been coming to realize how many of your posts are simply pejorative of others. Not good.
Lizbeth, before I get into a reply, would you say exactly what the inner man - the new man is? Do you agree that man is spirit soul and body?
I believe the Lord longsuffers us in our immaturity, but He expects more of us as we go along. It's not good for anyone to throw up their hands and abuse His grace by saying sinning is inevitable and assuming God will always cover it. The bible says if we walk in the Spirit we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh, so clearly it is possible to overcome and He has made the way to do so. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom...we need to always be seeking to overcome our sins and shortcomings in sincerity. Sin hardens the heart and can result in a seared conscience which leads to the possibility of falling away. Not to mention we may receive consequences in this life. God will not be mocked.
Open for discussion but I wonder if soul is where spirit and body meet so to speak. Redemption of man necessitates redemption of the body......the spirit needs a "house", a dwelling, to live in, and the two together make a living soul.
I believe the soul is the heart and mind of man and the spirit, the part that communicates with the spirit world including the Holy Spirit. But Lizbeth, would you say when baptism of the Spirit occurs? Is this the second blessing?
yes satan the adversary is still running around and is angry and getting angrier as his time is almost up.
| Event | Scripture Reference | Timing/Description |
|---|---|---|
| Devil bound | Revelation 20:1–3 | At the start of the thousand years (millennium) |
| Devil released | Revelation 20:7–8 | After the thousand years, for a short time |
| Devil finally destroyed | Revelation 20:10 | After the final rebellion, cast into the lake of fire forever |
