25 CLUES YOU'RE NOT TALKING TO A CHRISTIAN — JUST A MODERN-DAY PHARISEE

[The Gospel of Christ]

25 Modern Pharisee Markers

1. “The Body of Christ is not Israel.”
Teaches that the true Israel is a strip of dirt founded by the UN, not those born again in Christ. Flat out contradicts Romans 9, Galatians 3, and Ephesians 2 as well as the beliefs of every Apostle and Church Father for the last 2000 years.

2. Scofield Study Bible Defender.
Promotes the footnotes of a corrupt, disbarred lawyer over the words of Christ and the Apostles. Thinks Scofield’s Zionist heresy is “sound doctrine.”

3. Dual-Covenant Theology.
Believes Jews can be saved without Christ because of their ethnicity. That’s not Christianity—it’s Talmudic supremacy in church drag.

4. Preaches a Future Third Temple.
Wants to rebuild what God destroyed. Thinks God is pleased with animal blood instead of Christ’s finished work. Hebrews 10 annihilates this.

5. Teaches “Replacement Theology” is heresy.
Calls it heresy to believe the Church is the fulfillment of Israel, despite Paul saying exactly that (Romans 9–11, Galatians 6:16).

6. Defends Ethnic Israel’s Right to the Land “Forever.”
Ignores that the land covenant was conditional (Deut 28) and fulfilled in Christ. Teaches a carnal land over a spiritual kingdom.

7. Treats the cursed, demonic Star of Remphan as if it were “David’s.”
They parade the six-triangle, six-pointed, six-sided hexagram idol as a sacred emblem, even though Scripture never once calls it the “Star of David.” In fact, the only star mentioned in the Bible is a symbol of rebellion — the Star of Remphan, cursed by God in Amos 5:26 and condemned again in Acts 7:43.
It’s not holy. It’s not biblical.
It’s a modern-day golden calf — a blasphemous banner of Babylon dressed in religious cosplay.

8. Thinks Jesus Came Only for the Jews (at First).
Teaches that Jesus’ Gospel was only for Jews pre-crucifixion, and that the Church was a Plan B. Blasphemes the eternal plan of God (Eph. 3:6–11).

9. Says “The Church Age” Will End When the Jews Get the Kingdom.
A chopped-up timeline of lies: gives Jews the Millennium, Gentiles the Church, and Christ nothing but confusion.

10. Insists “Israel” Must Mean the Modern State.
Even when Romans 9:6 says clearly, “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel.”

11. Defends a 7-Year Tribulation Created by Jesuits and Scofield.
Doesn’t realize Daniel 9:27 was fulfilled by Christ. Inserts the Antichrist where Jesus should be.

12. Promotes the Pre-Trib Rapture.
Teaches escape instead of endurance. Replaces the Blessed Hope with escapist fiction.

13. Rejects Paul as a True Apostle (or Minimizes Him).
Just like ancient Pharisees, modern ones hate Paul—unless he’s twisted to support Zionism.

14. Divides Scripture into "Jewish" and "Christian" Sections.
Teaches the red letters are “for Israel,” but Paul's letters are for the Church. A cafeteria gospel with compartments.

15. Says “Don’t Spiritualize the Bible.”
Except Jesus, Paul, Peter, and John spiritualized nearly everything.

16. Teaches a Literal Millennium Kingdom in Old Jerusalem.
Wants Jesus to rule from a throne in a modern-day war zone, instead of seeing His Kingdom is already here in His people.

17. Wants Christians to “Bless Israel” (Gen 12:3) — but they don’t even know who Israel is.
They quote Genesis like a political slogan, yet ignore that Christ alone is the Seed of Abraham (Galatians 3:16) — and those who are in Him are the true heirs of the promise.
According to the Gospel, the Body of Christ is Israel (Galatians 3:29, Romans 9:6–8, Ephesians 2:11–22).
Not a bloodline. Not a flag. Not a modern state founded in 1948.
We bless Israel when we preach Christ — not when we fund apartheid, ignore the Gospel, and exalt unbelief.
Every apostle taught this. Every Church Father affirmed it.
There is no biblical covenant outside of Jesus.

18. Thinks National Israel Is the Fig Tree of Matthew 24.
Misreads the parable entirely. The fig tree was cursed by Jesus, not exalted.

19. Fears the Antichrist More Than They Trust Christ.
Obsess over prophecy charts but can’t preach the Gospel clearly.

20. Equates Political Zionism with God’s Will.
Believes the Rothschild-funded state of Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy. History calls it colonialism. Scripture calls it deception.

21. Teaches “Once Saved Always Saved” with No Fruit.
Guarantees salvation based on a prayer instead of perseverance and evidence of new birth.

22. Takes Tithes for a Temple that Doesn’t Exist.
Guilts people into Old Covenant giving but rejects Old Covenant holiness.

23. Mocks Those Who Say “We Are Israel.”
Accuses others of arrogance for simply believing the Bible.

24. Denies the New Covenant Is for the Church.
Says the New Covenant is only “for the Jews,” even though Jesus says, “This is the new covenant in My blood.”

25. Treats the Apostles as Less Authoritative Than Modern Prophecy Teachers.
Trusts YouTube preachers with 3D rapture charts more than Peter, Paul, and Jesus.

Do Pharisees still exist today?
Yes. They wear suits instead of robes.
They use Scofield footnotes instead of Torah scrolls.
They preach geopolitical Zionism instead of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

And just like their spiritual ancestors, they shut the door of the Kingdom in men’s faces (Matthew 23:13) while calling themselves “watchmen.”

Only one Body. One Israel. One Kingdom.
In Christ alone.

“If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

What the Pharisees look more like today.

 

[SavedInHim]

25 Modern Pharisee Markers

1. “The Body of Christ is not Israel.”
Teaches that the true Israel is a strip of dirt founded by the UN, not those born again in Christ. Flat out contradicts Romans 9, Galatians 3, and Ephesians 2 as well as the beliefs of every Apostle and Church Father for the last 2000 years.

2. Scofield Study Bible Defender.
Promotes the footnotes of a corrupt, disbarred lawyer over the words of Christ and the Apostles. Thinks Scofield’s Zionist heresy is “sound doctrine.”

3. Dual-Covenant Theology.
Believes Jews can be saved without Christ because of their ethnicity. That’s not Christianity—it’s Talmudic supremacy in church drag.

4. Preaches a Future Third Temple.
Wants to rebuild what God destroyed. Thinks God is pleased with animal blood instead of Christ’s finished work. Hebrews 10 annihilates this.

5. Teaches “Replacement Theology” is heresy.
Calls it heresy to believe the Church is the fulfillment of Israel, despite Paul saying exactly that (Romans 9–11, Galatians 6:16).

6. Defends Ethnic Israel’s Right to the Land “Forever.”
Ignores that the land covenant was conditional (Deut 28) and fulfilled in Christ. Teaches a carnal land over a spiritual kingdom.

7. Treats the cursed, demonic Star of Remphan as if it were “David’s.”
They parade the six-triangle, six-pointed, six-sided hexagram idol as a sacred emblem, even though Scripture never once calls it the “Star of David.” In fact, the only star mentioned in the Bible is a symbol of rebellion — the Star of Remphan, cursed by God in Amos 5:26 and condemned again in Acts 7:43.
It’s not holy. It’s not biblical.
It’s a modern-day golden calf — a blasphemous banner of Babylon dressed in religious cosplay.

8. Thinks Jesus Came Only for the Jews (at First).
Teaches that Jesus’ Gospel was only for Jews pre-crucifixion, and that the Church was a Plan B. Blasphemes the eternal plan of God (Eph. 3:6–11).

9. Says “The Church Age” Will End When the Jews Get the Kingdom.
A chopped-up timeline of lies: gives Jews the Millennium, Gentiles the Church, and Christ nothing but confusion.

10. Insists “Israel” Must Mean the Modern State.
Even when Romans 9:6 says clearly, “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel.”

11. Defends a 7-Year Tribulation Created by Jesuits and Scofield.
Doesn’t realize Daniel 9:27 was fulfilled by Christ. Inserts the Antichrist where Jesus should be.

12. Promotes the Pre-Trib Rapture.
Teaches escape instead of endurance. Replaces the Blessed Hope with escapist fiction.

13. Rejects Paul as a True Apostle (or Minimizes Him).
Just like ancient Pharisees, modern ones hate Paul—unless he’s twisted to support Zionism.

14. Divides Scripture into "Jewish" and "Christian" Sections.
Teaches the red letters are “for Israel,” but Paul's letters are for the Church. A cafeteria gospel with compartments.

15. Says “Don’t Spiritualize the Bible.”
Except Jesus, Paul, Peter, and John spiritualized nearly everything.

16. Teaches a Literal Millennium Kingdom in Old Jerusalem.
Wants Jesus to rule from a throne in a modern-day war zone, instead of seeing His Kingdom is already here in His people.

17. Wants Christians to “Bless Israel” (Gen 12:3) — but they don’t even know who Israel is.
They quote Genesis like a political slogan, yet ignore that Christ alone is the Seed of Abraham (Galatians 3:16) — and those who are in Him are the true heirs of the promise.
According to the Gospel, the Body of Christ is Israel (Galatians 3:29, Romans 9:6–8, Ephesians 2:11–22).
Not a bloodline. Not a flag. Not a modern state founded in 1948.
We bless Israel when we preach Christ — not when we fund apartheid, ignore the Gospel, and exalt unbelief.
Every apostle taught this. Every Church Father affirmed it.
There is no biblical covenant outside of Jesus.

18. Thinks National Israel Is the Fig Tree of Matthew 24.
Misreads the parable entirely. The fig tree was cursed by Jesus, not exalted.

19. Fears the Antichrist More Than They Trust Christ.
Obsess over prophecy charts but can’t preach the Gospel clearly.

20. Equates Political Zionism with God’s Will.
Believes the Rothschild-funded state of Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy. History calls it colonialism. Scripture calls it deception.

21. Teaches “Once Saved Always Saved” with No Fruit.
Guarantees salvation based on a prayer instead of perseverance and evidence of new birth.

22. Takes Tithes for a Temple that Doesn’t Exist.
Guilts people into Old Covenant giving but rejects Old Covenant holiness.

23. Mocks Those Who Say “We Are Israel.”
Accuses others of arrogance for simply believing the Bible.

24. Denies the New Covenant Is for the Church.
Says the New Covenant is only “for the Jews,” even though Jesus says, “This is the new covenant in My blood.”

25. Treats the Apostles as Less Authoritative Than Modern Prophecy Teachers.
Trusts YouTube preachers with 3D rapture charts more than Peter, Paul, and Jesus.

Do Pharisees still exist today?
Yes. They wear suits instead of robes.
They use Scofield footnotes instead of Torah scrolls.
They preach geopolitical Zionism instead of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

And just like their spiritual ancestors, they shut the door of the Kingdom in men’s faces (Matthew 23:13) while calling themselves “watchmen.”

Only one Body. One Israel. One Kingdom.
In Christ alone.

“If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

Is there anyone in your opinion who is not a Pharisee? Sounds like you've pretty much marked anyone and everyone a Pharisee.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Is there anyone in your opinion who is not a Pharisee? Sounds like you've pretty much marked anyone and everyone a Pharisee.

Well, when you've got an “Evangelical Church” so brainwashed it doesn’t even realize that the Body of Christ is Israel— something every Apostle and Church Father preached for the first 1,900 years — then yeah, bud, it’s pretty bad.

We’re not talking about a few off-track denominations here.

We’re talking about 90%+ of the modern Church being under a Scofield-induced trance, quoting footnotes like scripture, defending the crucifiers of Christ as "God's chosen people", and cheering on a geopolitical state built on Rothschild blood money while calling it “holy.”

That’s not just error — that’s delusion.
Not just off the path — but paving a highway to Hell in the name of prophecy charts and Zionist fiction.

So if you’re asking whether “everyone’s a Pharisee,” the answer is:
No. Just the ones who reject what the Bible clearly says about the Gospel, the Kingdom, and who true Israel is.

But unfortunately, that’s most of what calls itself the Church today.

They’re not just on the wide road —
They’re past the guardrail, flying off the cliff,
And baptizing their fall with Scofield’s ink.

 

[Nameaboveallnames]

You're definitely mistaken on points #4 and #16, and I would need to explain why when I have the time to do so (I'm getting ready to leave for work now, so it will have to wait).

 

[Kokyu]

25 Modern Pharisee Markers

1. “The Body of Christ is not Israel.”
Teaches that the true Israel is a strip of dirt founded by the UN, not those born again in Christ. Flat out contradicts Romans 9, Galatians 3, and Ephesians 2 as well as the beliefs of every Apostle and Church Father for the last 2000 years.

Well, this might make the person a Dispensationalist but not necessarily an unbeliever, or Pharisee.

2. Scofield Study Bible Defender.
Promotes the footnotes of a corrupt, disbarred lawyer over the words of Christ and the Apostles. Thinks Scofield’s Zionist heresy is “sound doctrine.”

Okay. But this, too, is just an anti-Dispensationalist statement, not necessarily proof-positive someone is a false brother/sister in the Lord.

3. Dual-Covenant Theology.
Believes Jews can be saved without Christ because of their ethnicity. That’s not Christianity—it’s Talmudic supremacy in church drag.

4. Preaches a Future Third Temple.
Wants to rebuild what God destroyed. Thinks God is pleased with animal blood instead of Christ’s finished work. Hebrews 10 annihilates this.

5. Teaches “Replacement Theology” is heresy.
Calls it heresy to believe the Church is the fulfillment of Israel, despite Paul saying exactly that (Romans 9–11, Galatians 6:16).

6. Defends Ethnic Israel’s Right to the Land “Forever.”
Ignores that the land covenant was conditional (Deut 28) and fulfilled in Christ. Teaches a carnal land over a spiritual kingdom.

7. Treats the cursed, demonic Star of Remphan as if it were “David’s.”
They parade the six-triangle, six-pointed, six-sided hexagram idol as a sacred emblem, even though Scripture never once calls it the “Star of David.” In fact, the only star mentioned in the Bible is a symbol of rebellion — the Star of Remphan, cursed by God in Amos 5:26 and condemned again in Acts 7:43.
It’s not holy. It’s not biblical.
It’s a modern-day golden calf — a blasphemous banner of Babylon dressed in religious cosplay.

8. Thinks Jesus Came Only for the Jews (at First).
Teaches that Jesus’ Gospel was only for Jews pre-crucifixion, and that the Church was a Plan B. Blasphemes the eternal plan of God (Eph. 3:6–11).

9. Says “The Church Age” Will End When the Jews Get the Kingdom.
A chopped-up timeline of lies: gives Jews the Millennium, Gentiles the Church, and Christ nothing but confusion.

10. Insists “Israel” Must Mean the Modern State.
Even when Romans 9:6 says clearly, “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel.”

11. Defends a 7-Year Tribulation Created by Jesuits and Scofield.
Doesn’t realize Daniel 9:27 was fulfilled by Christ. Inserts the Antichrist where Jesus should be.

12. Promotes the Pre-Trib Rapture.
Teaches escape instead of endurance. Replaces the Blessed Hope with escapist fiction.

13. Rejects Paul as a True Apostle (or Minimizes Him).
Just like ancient Pharisees, modern ones hate Paul—unless he’s twisted to support Zionism.

14. Divides Scripture into "Jewish" and "Christian" Sections.
Teaches the red letters are “for Israel,” but Paul's letters are for the Church. A cafeteria gospel with compartments.

15. Says “Don’t Spiritualize the Bible.”
Except Jesus, Paul, Peter, and John spiritualized nearly everything.

16. Teaches a Literal Millennium Kingdom in Old Jerusalem.
Wants Jesus to rule from a throne in a modern-day war zone, instead of seeing His Kingdom is already here in His people.

17. Wants Christians to “Bless Israel” (Gen 12:3) — but they don’t even know who Israel is.
They quote Genesis like a political slogan, yet ignore that Christ alone is the Seed of Abraham (Galatians 3:16) — and those who are in Him are the true heirs of the promise.
According to the Gospel, the Body of Christ is Israel (Galatians 3:29, Romans 9:6–8, Ephesians 2:11–22).
Not a bloodline. Not a flag. Not a modern state founded in 1948.
We bless Israel when we preach Christ — not when we fund apartheid, ignore the Gospel, and exalt unbelief.
Every apostle taught this. Every Church Father affirmed it.
There is no biblical covenant outside of Jesus.

18. Thinks National Israel Is the Fig Tree of Matthew 24.
Misreads the parable entirely. The fig tree was cursed by Jesus, not exalted.

19. Fears the Antichrist More Than They Trust Christ.
Obsess over prophecy charts but can’t preach the Gospel clearly.

20. Equates Political Zionism with God’s Will.
Believes the Rothschild-funded state of Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy. History calls it colonialism. Scripture calls it deception.

21. Teaches “Once Saved Always Saved” with No Fruit.
Guarantees salvation based on a prayer instead of perseverance and evidence of new birth.

22. Takes Tithes for a Temple that Doesn’t Exist.
Guilts people into Old Covenant giving but rejects Old Covenant holiness.

23. Mocks Those Who Say “We Are Israel.”
Accuses others of arrogance for simply believing the Bible.

24. Denies the New Covenant Is for the Church.
Says the New Covenant is only “for the Jews,” even though Jesus says, “This is the new covenant in My blood.”

25. Treats the Apostles as Less Authoritative Than Modern Prophecy Teachers.
Trusts YouTube preachers with 3D rapture charts more than Peter, Paul, and Jesus.

Do Pharisees still exist today?
Yes. They wear suits instead of robes.
They use Scofield footnotes instead of Torah scrolls.
They preach geopolitical Zionism instead of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

And just like their spiritual ancestors, they shut the door of the Kingdom in men’s faces (Matthew 23:13) while calling themselves “watchmen.”

Only one Body. One Israel. One Kingdom.
In Christ alone.

“If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

Sounds like you've got a big beef with Dispensationalists. I can sympathize. But I'd be very careful consigning all Dispensationalists to the Pharisee/unbeliever bin. Anyway, have you heard of Steve Gregg? If you're not of the Dispensationalist camp, you may find his stuff very interesting and helpful.

 

[SavedInHim]

Well, when you've got an “Evangelical Church” so brainwashed it doesn’t even realize that the Body of Christ is Israel— something every Apostle and Church Father preached for the first 1,900 years — then yeah, bud, it’s pretty bad.

We’re not talking about a few off-track denominations here.

We’re talking about 90%+ of the modern Church being under a Scofield-induced trance, quoting footnotes like scripture, defending the crucifiers of Christ as "God's chosen people", and cheering on a geopolitical state built on Rothschild blood money while calling it “holy.”

That’s not just error — that’s delusion.
Not just off the path — but paving a highway to Hell in the name of prophecy charts and Zionist fiction.

So if you’re asking whether “everyone’s a Pharisee,” the answer is:
No. Just the ones who reject what the Bible clearly says about the Gospel, the Kingdom, and who true Israel is.

But unfortunately, that’s most of what calls itself the Church today.

They’re not just on the wide road —
They’re past the guardrail, flying off the cliff,
And baptizing their fall with Scofield’s ink.

Fine, have fun doing whatever it is you do bro (or sis). I hope you find peace at some point. Blessings.

 

[Scott Downey]

You're definitely mistaken on points #4 and #16, and I would need to explain why when I have the time to do so (I'm getting ready to leave for work now, so it will have to wait).

Regarding #4, anyone who builds a temple of God, is creating a false temple of God.
The Jews would love to have their temple back, that is a big part of their Jewish religion, the temple worship.

But Christians worship God in the Spirit and not any building as we are the temple of God, and in this New Covenant God lives in us, not a physical temple.

1 Corinthians 6:19
Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?

2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people.”

1 Corinthians 3:16
Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
1 Corinthians 3:17
If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

A physical temple of God building, God won't recognize any longer as His temple of God.
Whether the Jews build one or not, I don't know, but it won't actually be a temple of God will it then, it would be a Jewish temple and a false religion would worship there a different god.

It would be called a temple of God by the Jews, but it would be an evil place, we do read some terrible and bad things about it in 2 Thessalonians 2.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Well, this might make the person a Dispensationalist but not necessarily an unbeliever, or Pharisee. Sounds like you've got a big beef with Dispensationalists. I can sympathize. But I'd be very careful consigning all Dispensationalists to the Pharisee/unbeliever bin. Anyway, have you heard of Steve Gregg? If you're not of the Dispensationalist camp, you may find his stuff very interesting and helpful.

I appreciate the civility — and yes, I know Steve Gregg. Solid teacher in many ways.

But let’s be brutally honest about what we’re facing.

I’m not condemning every soul raised in a Dispensationalist church — many were duped by leaders they trusted. Yet the system itself is a Trojan horse: a theological virus that hijacked the Gospel in 1909, rewired the Church, and rebranded unbelief as "holy".

Dispensationalism isn’t just a “minor eschatological disagreement.”
It’s a total rewrite — of Israel, of prophecy, of the Church, and of the Gospel.

And it doesn’t merely exalt an ethnic bloodline above Christ; it exalts a false one.
These are not "Abraham’s descendants", they are not Semitic and not the Israel of God.
They’re eighth-century Gentile converts — Khazars, Slavs, Germans, Russians who were force-converted to Judaism under King Bulan post 740 AD. Yet the modern church bows to them as though they’re the chosen people.



That’s not just deception; that’s idolatry.

“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly … but inwardly.” — Romans 2:28-29
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” — Galatians 3:29

So the entire framework rests on a lie:
A man-made UN-ordained, Rothschild-manufactured state,
championing a Christ-less, religion,
claiming promises never given to it,
and being exalted above the very Body of Christ.

You want strong delusion? There it is.

This isn’t “blessing Israel.” It’s blaspheming Christ.

It splits the Body into Gentile leftovers and Jewish VIPs.
It says “Israel” is dirt and flags, not Spirit-born believers.
It says Jesus failed to bring the Kingdom and will come back later to try again — after unbelieving Jewish converts get what they want.
It pushes a third temple with floors dripping in animal blood in flat defiance of Hebrews 10.
It hands unbelieving, Eastern European Gentile converts a covenant without Christ,
and reduces Jesus to a millennial mascot in their Zionist end-times theater.

That’s not merely off-target; it’s anti-Christ.

This isn’t just error.
It’s a damnable gospel.

“If anyone preaches another gospel… let him be accursed.” — Galatians 1:8

This heretical system isn’t just incorrect — it’s leading millions of Christians to bless rebellion, reject the true Israel of God (Galatians 6:16), and await a third temple that God never commanded.

The apostles never taught this.
The Church Fathers never preached it.
The Reformers never endorsed it.

No Christian on Earth for 1,900 years believed this hell-spawned heresy,
when Scofield, Oxford Press, and Zionist bankers sold it to an unsuspecting church after WWI, and modern evangelicals swallowed it whole.

So, while not every soul under its spell is necessarily a false brother, the doctrine itself?
Pharisee poison in a leather-bound cover leading misled sheep into the gates of Hell. (Exactly, what it was designed to do)

And it must be exposed —
for the sake of the Gospel,
for the sake of Israel (the real one),
and for the Body of Christ.

These people are under the veil and have been totally brainwashed by the Dragon himself.
It’s like watching a sci-fi horror film from Hell —
they chant “We must protect Israel!”
without even realizing that the Body of Christ is Israel,
and they’re the ones who need protecting.

If the Early Church Fathers could see what modern Christians are following…
how far the Church has drifted…
how deeply it’s been misled by a false Israel,
a false gospel, and a dragon-marked star…

They wouldn’t just weep.

They’d fall to their knees screaming in horror, tear their robes, and cry out to heaven for judgment.

Polycarp, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian —
men who bled and died for the Gospel —
wouldn’t even recognize this so-called “church.”
They’d see it for what it is:

A Babylonian prostitute wrapped in a Zionist flag.
A congregation of the confused, blessing the enemies of Christ.
A people so bewitched, they can’t tell the difference between the Bride of Christ
and the Synagogue of Satan.

These misled sheep are blessing the Gentile, false Jews of Revelation 2:9 and 3:9,
not even realizing they’re siding with the synagogue of Satan —
the very ones Christ warned us about.

A deception so cold…
so calculated…
so spiritually precise…
It could have only come from the Dragon himself.

They’re so bewitched, and so deep under the veil,
they don’t even stop to ask the obvious:

Why isn’t the so-called “Star of David” mentioned anywhere in the Bible?
Where did God ever give David a star?
Answer: He didn’t.

The only star God mentions in this context is the Star of Rephan —
a cursed symbol associated with idolatry, blood sacrifice, and open rebellion.




That six-pointed star —
six triangles, six sides, six points —
666 in geometric form —
was used during child sacrifice, ritual blood orgies, and demonic worship in the Wilderness
while they were mocking God to His face.

And now?
That same cursed star
sits behind the President of the United States,
flies over a modern, manufactured manmade false Israel,
and decorates Christian church stages across America
like it’s the flag of heaven itself.

Wake up people.

This is not just deception —
this is dragon-engineered sorcery from the pit of Hell.
A blasphemous counterfeit,
adorned in patriotism, baptized in ignorance,
and flying above altars where Jesus is no longer Lord — just a supporting actor in their Zionist end-times script.

We are deep into Revelation now.
And the road is wide.
Wider than ever.

“And the whole world wondered after the Beast…” — Revelation 13:3
Wondered. Worshiped. Waved its banner.

A cursed star, never given by God,
now honored as if it’s holy.
This is strong delusion.

And unless they repent —
unless they come out of this harlot system —
they may not see the Kingdom.

“Come out of her, My people,
lest you share in her sins,
and lest you receive of her plagues.”
— Revelation 18:4

Time is short.
Truth is not optional.
And neutrality is not righteousness.

Choose now whom you will serve —
because the Dragon already has his flag planted.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

THE BODY OF CHRIST IS ISRAEL.

If you don’t know that simple truth—
you’re still under the veil.
And you're not following the Gospel.
You are deceived.

“They are not all Israel, which are of Israel... That is, they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
— Romans 9:6–8

“If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
— Galatians 3:29

“There is neither Jew nor Greek… for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”
— Galatians 3:28

This isn’t up for debate.
This is the Gospel.

The apostles taught it.
The early Church proclaimed it.
And every true Christian believed it — until 1909, when a Zionist-ghostwritten footnote Bible started rewiring the minds of the lukewarm.

Don’t believe me?

Let’s ask the actual Church Fathers — the men who bled and died for the faith.

Justin Martyr (155 AD):
“For the true spiritual Israel… are we who have been led to God through this crucified Christ.”
— Dialogue with Trypho, Ch. 11

Irenaeus (180 AD):
“They who believe in Him and follow His word… are the true Israel.”
— Against Heresies, Book 4

Tertullian (c. 200 AD):
“The Jews had formerly been near to God, but having departed from Him, they are now very far off... We who were far off have begun to be made nigh.” — Against Marcion, Book 3, Ch. 23

Cyprian of Carthage (250 AD):
“We Christians are the true people of God, though the Jews once were... the Jews, according to the flesh, were cast off.” — Treatises of Cyprian, Treatise 12, Book 1

Origen (248 AD):
“We say that they [the Jews] were rejected... when the Church of the living God was built, the shadow of the letter passed away, and the light of the Spirit rose.” — Against Celsus, Book 3, Ch. 28

Eusebius of Caesarea (325 AD):
“The promises of the covenants made to Israel are now fulfilled in us [the Church]... The Hebrews have fallen from the grace of God.” — Proof of the Gospel, Book 1, Ch. 4

^ Bullet proof and undeniable.

So no — they didn’t worship dirt.
They didn’t bow to man-made flags.
And they didn’t blasphemously call a Christ-rejecting state in the Middle East - “God’s chosen people.”

That delusion came later — wrapped in Scofield leather, funded by Zionist bankers, and swallowed by a Church asleep at the wheel.

The apostles knew it.
The Church Fathers thundered it.
The Scriptures declare it.
THE BODY OF CHRIST IS ISRAEL - There is no other.

If you believe otherwise,
you’ve been deceived by the Dragon —
fed a gospel laced with poison,
and taught to bless rebellion instead of truth.

Wake up and repent.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Did you figure it out yet?

Gentiles —
who converted to Talmudic Judaism after 740 AD,
yet claim to be “ethnic, biblical Jews.”
But they are not.
They lie.

And what does the Bible say about them?

“I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.”
— Revelation 2:9

Wake up.
The Word already exposed them.
You’re not being faithful —
you’re being deceived.

And now?

Millions of Christians worship at the altar of the Synagogue of Satan —
bowing to a counterfeit Israel that:

Bans the Gospel,
Blasphemes Christ,
Curses His name daily,
Teaches its children to hate Him,
And prepares to enthrone Antichrist as messiah.

This isn’t obedience.
This is sorcery.
This is apostasy.
This is spiritual treason.

You’re not “defending Israel.”
You’re denying the King of it.

Repent now. Before it's too late.

 

[Nameaboveallnames]

A sister in the Lord shared this with me recently, and I think that it ties directly into this topic.

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If you watch this video from the 16:20 mark until the 40:22 mark, then you will hear Candace Owens denounce things like Zionism, the Scofield Bible, Dispensationalism, and the modern state of Israel. You will also see clips from the recent interview that Tucker Carlson did with Senator Ted Cruz, and how Cruz butchered what the Bible has to say about Israel.

 

[Nameaboveallnames]

It would be called a temple of God by the Jews, but it would be an evil place, we do read some terrible and bad things about it in 2 Thessalonians 2.

You just proved my point. The OP said that a modern Pharisee "Preaches a Future Third Temple," and the Bible does say that a future third temple is coming. When it comes, and it will come, temple sacrifices will be restored, and that will be a blatant denial of Christ's atoning sacrifice on the the cross. Also, the coming Antichrist will ultimately sit in that temple, albeit for a very short period of time. Anyhow, a future third temple is coming, and one is not a Pharisee for rightly saying so.

 

[Kokyu]

But let’s be brutally honest about what we’re facing.

??? I don't mind honesty; in fact, its crucially important for followers of Christ. But I wonder about the "brutal" part. Sometimes, this sort of "honesty" is just angry, offensive "axe grinding."

Dispensationalism isn’t just a “minor eschatological disagreement.”
It’s a total rewrite — of Israel, of prophecy, of the Church, and of the Gospel.

Well, you're aware, I hope, that not all claiming a Dispensational title hold to the interpretive systematic to the same degree. Just as there are nominal Christians, or Calvinists, there are nominal Dispensationalists. Anyway, I don't hold to Dispensationalism myself at all, but I have listened to harder-core Dispensationalists and appreciated much of what they had to say about Jesus, the Gospel, and spiritual living in general (i.e Dr. Vernon McGee). I just tune out when they go on about Dispensationalism itself, the Secret Rapture, God's not finished with Israel stuff, etc. It's not that hard to do, really. Eat the meat and spit out the bones.

Yet the modern church bows to them as though they’re the chosen people.

Not the Christ followers that I know. Jews are respected, but no one "bows to them."

“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly … but inwardly.” — Romans 2:28-29
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” — Galatians 3:29

So the entire framework rests on a lie:
A man-made UN-ordained, Rothschild-manufactured state,
championing a Christ-less, religion,
claiming promises never given to it,
and being exalted above the very Body of Christ.

You want strong delusion? There it is.

This isn’t “blessing Israel.” It’s blaspheming Christ.

??? This is a false dichotomy you're proposing here. It isn't either a person is a blasphemous Dispensationalist and champion of a Christ-less religion, or not, but that a person may hold to mistaken Dispensational views and also be a Christian. These are not necessarily mutually-exclusive things. Some folk may take their Dispensationalism too far, absolutely, as you seem to be doing in your opposition to Dispensationalism, but this doesn't automatically make them lying Christ blasphemers any more than their decrying your non-Dispensationalist position and calling you a lying Christ blasphemer would make it so. Your language in describing Dispensationalism and those who hold to it has a very propagandist flavor: overblown, aggressive rhetoric, full of ad hominem, seeking to divide from and "other" those who hold to Dispensationalism, etc. This doesn't make your perspective seem particularly attractive or reasonable, but rather overwrought or hysterical.

It splits the Body into Gentile leftovers and Jewish VIPs.
It says “Israel” is dirt and flags, not Spirit-born believers.

I know several thorough-going Dispensationalists who would deny this description as highly exaggerated. None of them would agree with your statement that Israel is just "dirt and flags, not Spirit-born believers." Why this extreme rhetoric? Disagree with Dispensationalists, certainly. I do. But the rather wild, wide-eyed language you're employing comes off, as I said, as propagandist sloganeering instead of sober, well-reasoned argument.

It says Jesus failed to bring the Kingdom and will come back later to try again — after unbelieving Jewish converts get what they want.
It pushes a third temple with floors dripping in animal blood in flat defiance of Hebrews 10.
It hands unbelieving, Eastern European Gentile converts a covenant without Christ,
and reduces Jesus to a millennial mascot in their Zionist end-times theater.

That’s not merely off-target; it’s anti-Christ.

This isn’t just error.
It’s a damnable gospel.

See? This frothing-at-the-mouth rhetoric makes me want to tune you out, just as I do hard-core Dispensationalists who speak of folk like you in the same extreme way. Brother, "the wrath of man works not the righteousness of God" (Ja. 1:20). You might also consider:

2 Timothy 2:24-25
24 The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged,
25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth,

Disagree with Dispensationalists. Go ahead. Disagree strongly, even. But always within the confines of the above Scripture, remembering that God gives repentance to the acknowledging of the truth, not harsh, overblown rhetoric.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

??? I don't mind honesty; in fact, its crucially important for followers of Christ. But I wonder about the "brutal" part. Sometimes, this sort of "honesty" is just angry, offensive "axe grinding."



Well, you're aware, I hope, that not all claiming a Dispensational title hold to the interpretive systematic to the same degree. Just as there are nominal Christians, or Calvinists, there are nominal Dispensationalists. Anyway, I don't hold to Dispensationalism myself at all, but I have listened to harder-core Dispensationalists and appreciated much of what they had to say about Jesus, the Gospel, and spiritual living in general (i.e Dr. Vernon McGee). I just tune out when they go on about Dispensationalism itself, the Secret Rapture, God's not finished with Israel stuff, etc. It's not that hard to do, really. Eat the meat and spit out the bones.



Not the Christ followers that I know. Jews are respected, but no one "bows to them."



??? This is a false dichotomy you're proposing here. It isn't either a person is a blasphemous Dispensationalist and champion of a Christ-less religion, or not, but that a person may hold to mistaken Dispensational views and also be a Christian. These are not necessarily mutually-exclusive things. Some folk may take their Dispensationalism too far, absolutely, as you seem to be doing in your opposition to Dispensationalism, but this doesn't automatically make them lying Christ blasphemers any more than their decrying your non-Dispensationalist position and calling you a lying Christ blasphemer would make it so. Your language in describing Dispensationalism and those who hold to it has a very propagandist flavor: overblown, aggressive rhetoric, full of ad hominem, seeking to divide from and "other" those who hold to Dispensationalism, etc. This doesn't make your perspective seem particularly attractive or reasonable, but rather overwrought or hysterical.



I know several thorough-going Dispensationalists who would deny this description as highly exaggerated. None of them would agree with your statement that Israel is just "dirt and flags, not Spirit-born believers." Why this extreme rhetoric? Disagree with Dispensationalists, certainly. I do. But the rather wild, wide-eyed language you're employing comes off, as I said, as propagandist sloganeering instead of sober, well-reasoned argument.



See? This frothing-at-the-mouth rhetoric makes me want to tune you out, just as I do hard-core Dispensationalists who speak of folk like you in the same extreme way. Brother, "the wrath of man works not the righteousness of God" (Ja. 1:20). You might also consider:

2 Timothy 2:24-25
24 The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged,
25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth,

Disagree with Dispensationalists. Go ahead. Disagree strongly, even. But always within the confines of the above Scripture, remembering that God gives repentance to the acknowledging of the truth, not harsh, overblown rhetoric.

You said I’m using “propagandist” language and sounding “overwrought.”
Fair enough, let me be even clearer.

What I’m confronting is not a “respectable theological option.”
It is a doctrinal cancer that splits the Body of Christ, blasphemes His finished work, and hands over the covenant to those who reject Him.

It’s not my “tone” that’s the problem.
It’s the theology I’m calling out —
and the fact that it doesn’t hold up to Scripture.

Let’s take it line by line:

“Some Dispensationalists are good people, they just take it too far.”

You mean like… handing salvific promises to those who reject Christ and who spit on the Cross?
Calling the Church a “parenthesis” in God’s plan?
Teaching Jesus failed and needs a second try with animal blood sacrifices?

How far is too far?
If the apostles were alive, they’d have flipped every table within 500 miles of that blasphemous insanity.

“Not all Christians I know bow to ethnic Jews.”

Then explain why modern Christians bend over backwards to defend a nation that bans the Gospel, rejects Christ, and openly awaits another messiah (the Antichrist).
Explain why they invoke Genesis 12 as if “blessing Israel” means sending billions in military aid to Christ-rejectors.

“Your language is extreme. You’re dividing the Body.”

No. Scofield divided the Body —
when he separated Jew from Gentile, Gospel from Gospel, and Kingdom from Cross.

Dispensationalism invented a false Israel,
resurrected a flesh-based covenant,
and cast the Church as a second-string accident.

That’s not "another view", that’s a different religion.

“But 2 Timothy says to correct with gentleness…”

And I’m not correcting your person, I’m rebuking a damnable system.

Paul told the Galatians:
“If anyone preaches another gospel... let him be accursed.” (Gal. 1:8)
That’s not a soft whisper and a shoulder rub.
That’s a line in the sand.

So here’s my tone:
I’m not mad at you, brother.
But I will not soften the rebuke of a false gospel to make lukewarm Christianity more comfortable.

Because this isn’t a debate club.
It’s war for the Gospel.

And I’ll say it again, not to “other” people, but to expose doctrine:

Dispensationalism teaches that Jesus failed.
That unbelieving Jews are still “chosen.” (Completely contradicting the Gospel)
That the Church is an afterthought.
That the blood of Christ will be sidelined for animal sacrifices.
That prophecy revolves around a Christ-rejecting state.
And that the Kingdom of God is racial, geographical, and postponed.

That’s not a misunderstanding.
That’s a counterfeit gospel.
That’s not Christianity.
That’s not eschatology.
That’s heresy.

And I refuse to treat it like a “respectable disagreement.”

 

[Kokyu]

You said I’m using “propagandist” language and sounding “overwrought.”
Fair enough, let me be even clearer.

What I’m confronting is not a “respectable theological option.”
It is a doctrinal cancer that splits the Body of Christ, blasphemes His finished work, and hands over the covenant to those who reject Him.

*Shrugs* If this is your "dividing line," well, no one can stop you from making it so. But what makes your hair stand on end by no means has to have the same effect upon anyone else. If you want to get wound up about Dispensationalism, knock yourself out! For myself, I'm content to eat the meat and spit out the bones, even if the meat comes from one of those filthy, Satanic Dispensationalists.

It’s not my “tone” that’s the problem.
It’s the theology I’m calling out —
and the fact that it doesn’t hold up to Scripture.

I understand you've got a theological beef with Dispensationalism. That's fine. But you don't do your perspective any favors, I think, by growing histrionic about that beef.

“Some Dispensationalists are good people, they just take it too far.”

You mean like… handing salvific promises to those who reject Christ and who spit on the Cross?
Calling the Church a “parenthesis” in God’s plan?
Teaching Jesus failed and needs a second try with animal blood sacrifices?

No...

How far is too far?
If the apostles were alive, they’d have flipped every table within 500 miles of that blasphemous insanity.

Oh? How do you know this, exactly? Because you would?

“Not all Christians I know bow to ethnic Jews.”

Then explain why modern Christians bend over backwards to defend a nation that bans the Gospel, rejects Christ, and openly awaits another messiah (the Antichrist).

Are they bending over backwards to defend Israel? I don't see that in the Dispensationalists that I know, though they do care about what happens to the Jews. Certainly, none of them are bowing to Jews, as you hyperbolically asserted.

“Your language is extreme. You’re dividing the Body.”

No. Scofield divided the Body —
when he separated Jew from Gentile, Gospel from Gospel, and Kingdom from Cross.

Dispensationalism invented a false Israel,
resurrected a flesh-based covenant,
and cast the Church as a second-string accident.

That’s not "another view", that’s a different religion.

I get that you're super-invested in this particular issue but, again, you're not acting like the servant of the Lord described in 2 Timothy 2:4-25. Could this be because you're not willing to let God have His role as the One who gives repentance to the acknowledging of the truth? If He gives repentance - a change of mind - to folk concerning the truth, let Him do so in His own good time and way. In the meantime, be the servant of the Lord who "does not strive" but is "gentle unto all men, patient, apt to teach, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves."

I see that you didn't deny that your rhetoric is extreme...

“But 2 Timothy says to correct with gentleness…”

And I’m not correcting your person, I’m rebuking a damnable system.

I think you've crossed back-and-forth over the line between ad hominem and doctrinal criticism. Here are a few examples:

"This isn’t just error.
It’s a damnable gospel.

'If anyone preaches another gospel… let him be accursed.' — Galatians 1:8"


"If the Early Church Fathers could see what modern Christians are following…
how far the Church has drifted…
how deeply it’s been misled by a false Israel,
a false gospel, and a dragon-marked star…

They wouldn’t just weep.

They’d fall to their knees screaming in horror, tear their robes, and cry out to heaven for judgment."


"A congregation of the confused, blessing the enemies of Christ.
A people so bewitched, they can’t tell the difference between the Bride of Christ
and the Synagogue of Satan."


And so on.

Paul told the Galatians:
“If anyone preaches another gospel... let him be accursed.” (Gal. 1:8)
That’s not a soft whisper and a shoulder rub.
That’s a line in the sand.

No one's telling you to offer "a soft whisper and a shoulder rub." But God tells His servants to be patient, meek, gentle and peaceable because they know He's the One with the power to change minds and hearts, not them. And He will "give repentance to the acknowledging of the truth" when He's good and ready, not when His servant starts blowing a valve over the error of Dispensationalism. Of this you can be sure, though: The holier you are, the more Christ-like you are (Ga. 5:22-23), the more likely it is that God will work through you to change people.

James 3:17-18
17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy.
18 And the seed whose fruit is righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

So here’s my tone:
I’m not mad at you, brother.
But I will not soften the rebuke of a false gospel to make lukewarm Christianity more comfortable.

I haven't thought that you were mad at me. You've got a burr under your saddle about Dispensationalism that's crowding out the grace, peace, love and gentleness of Christ, though. It's to this that I'm offering a response, not your rebuke to Dispensationalism.

And I refuse to treat it like a “respectable disagreement.”

Well, you answer to your Lord, not to me. It's to Him you'll one day have to account for your conduct as His servant.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

*Shrugs* If this is your "dividing line," well, no one can stop you from making it so. But what makes your hair stand on end by no means has to have the same effect upon anyone else. If you want to get wound up about Dispensationalism, knock yourself out! For myself, I'm content to eat the meat and spit out the bones, even if the meat comes from one of those filthy, Satanic Dispensationalists.



I understand you've got a theological beef with Dispensationalism. That's fine. But you don't do your perspective any favors, I think, by growing histrionic about that beef.



No...



Oh? How do you know this, exactly? Because you would?



Are they bending over backwards to defend Israel? I don't see that in the Dispensationalists that I know, though they do care about what happens to the Jews. Certainly, none of them are bowing to Jews, as you hyperbolically asserted.



I get that you're super-invested in this particular issue but, again, you're not acting like the servant of the Lord described in 2 Timothy 2:4-25. Could this be because you're not willing to let God have His role as the One who gives repentance to the acknowledging of the truth? If He gives repentance - a change of mind - to folk concerning the truth, let Him do so in His own good time and way. In the meantime, be the servant of the Lord who "does not strive" but is "gentle unto all men, patient, apt to teach, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves."

I see that you didn't deny that your rhetoric is extreme...



I think you've crossed back-and-forth over the line between ad hominem and doctrinal criticism. Here are a few examples:

"This isn’t just error.
It’s a damnable gospel.

'If anyone preaches another gospel… let him be accursed.' — Galatians 1:8"


"If the Early Church Fathers could see what modern Christians are following…
how far the Church has drifted…
how deeply it’s been misled by a false Israel,
a false gospel, and a dragon-marked star…

They wouldn’t just weep.

They’d fall to their knees screaming in horror, tear their robes, and cry out to heaven for judgment."

You keep mistaking blunt clarity for personal hostility, and righteous rebuke for a tantrum. That’s not surprising when a generation has been raised on Scofield footnotes instead of apostolic doctrine, they flinch when they hear the Gospel undiluted. Most of the Dispensationalist-brainwashed Evangelicals around here would call Jesus Christ, Paul, and Peter "racist antisemites" for posting their own words . That alone tells you how far gone and wide-road-bound the modern church is.

Let me say it plainly:
What I’m calling out is not “just another viewpoint", it’s not a “disagreement among brothers.” It’s an entirely different theological system with a different eschatology, a different definition of Israel, a different gospel, and at its core—a different Christ.

Scofield didn’t just insert new ideas, he rewired the entire redemptive timeline to exalt unbelief, marginalize the Church, and grant salvific honor to those who trample the blood of Christ.

Not Peter.
Not Paul.
Not John.
Not a single early Church Father would recognize this Dispensational fantasy from Hell as Christianity.
That’s not hyperbole—that’s history.

And no, I’m not rebuking “people.” I’m rebuking a system—a damnable, well-marketed, Zionist-commissioned deception that has neutered the Church, exalted an apostate nation, and made a joke out of Christ’s finished work.

You want to quote James 3? Fine. Let’s finish the sentence:
“But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth… This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.” (James 3:14–15)

Dispensationalism is that sensual, earthly wisdom.
It flatters the flesh, exalts the carnal nation, and denies the mystery of the Church.

You think I should sit back and “let God handle it in His timing”? You mean like Paul did when he named false teachers publicly and cursed false gospels?

“Let him be accursed.” — Galatians 1:8
That’s not a suggestion, that’s war language.

And you talk of fruit? Look at the fruit.

Scofieldism has birthed a Zionist-worshiping, prophecy-obsessed, Church-debasing cult movement that calls itself “Bible believing”—yet splits the Gospel, divides the people of God, and bows to a Christ-rejecting state that bans the Gospel and waits for the Antichrist.
These people have been totally brainwashed by the Dragon himself and are completely out of their minds.



And when I say that, you call me the problem?

No.
The problem is a Church that fears being called divisive more than it fears being deceived. A Church that confuses gentleness with spinelessness. A Church that forgot how to guard the flock—because it’s too busy feeding wolves with grace quotes taken out of context.

I don’t hate you, I’m not angry with you.
But I’ll say it one more time for the back row:

Dispensationalism is not a secondary issue.
It’s a theological mind-virus from the Pit that exalts the flesh and dethrones the Cross.
It's from Hell.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

^ See that comment up there? That’s the kind of comment that makes curious agnostics and casual atheists drop their coffee, repent on the spot, and say, “My God… it’s real. Forgive me for ever questioning You, Father.”

They weren’t brainwashed by Scofield.
They weren’t raised on prophecy charts and Zionist fairytales.
They’re coming in with no skin in the theological game and yet they see it clearer than the Sunday School lifers.

Because they haven’t been blinded by the Dragon’s fog machine.
They read that post and suddenly, everything makes sense:

The veil.
The apostasy.
The church helping the Antichrist.
The fake Israel.
The false gospel.

And they realize: The real Christians are under attack... from inside the camp.

The atheist who just came to faith? He’s now armored up and can see it with terrifying clarity — that these Dispensationalists aren’t just confused… they are literally bewitched.

You want to see a miracle? Here it is:
For 1,900 years, the Church universally preached that the Body of Christ is Israel.

Every Apostle.
Every Church Father.
Every martyr.

Justin Martyr (c. 155 AD) – Dialogue with Trypho, ch. 11 & 123
“For the true spiritual Israel, and descendants of Judah, Jacob, Isaac, and Abraham — are we who have been led to God through this crucified Christ.” “We, who have been quarried out from the bowels of Christ, are the true Israelitic race.”

Irenaeus of Lyons (c. 180 AD) — Against Heresies, Book 4, Ch. 21.3
“They who boast themselves as being the house of Jacob and the people of Israel are disinherited from the grace of God.”
“The promise belongs no longer to the Jews but to the Church of God.”

Origen (c. 248 AD) — Against Celsus, Book 2.8
“We say with confidence that they who believe in Christ, and who live according to His precepts, are the true Israel.”

No apostle, no Church Father, no early Christian and no martyr in the catacombs ever believed the modern myth that the Jews still hold the covenant without Christ. None.

That’s not Christianity, that’s Satanic, Scofieldian blasphemy.

The Body of Christ is Israel - and there is no other. That’s not an opinion, that’s the unanimous voice of the Church for last 1,900 years. Wake up.

So if today’s preachers know what the Church Fathers taught… if they’ve studied scripture, seen Romans 9, Galatians 3, Ephesians and yet still preach this Zionist double-covenant fantasy—then they’re not confused. They’re compromised.

This isn’t ignorance.
It’s allegiance.

You don’t graduate seminary without seeing these quotes. You don’t get a theology degree without knowing that every early Christian voice said openly that the Church is the true Israel and that unbelieving Jews are cut off.

So if a pastor keeps preaching that Christ-rejecting Israel still holds the covenant…
If he says God has “two plans”…
If he dares to teach that there’s still a salvific future apart from Christ for a physical bloodline...

Then yes — he’s not just wrong, he’s preaching for the Dragon.

It’s not “dispensational theology.”
It’s not “biblical prophecy.”
It’s not “supporting Israel.”
These people ignore the Word, and are under the veil so they have no idea who, or what Israel even is.

Call it what it is:
It’s a Satanic psyop, born in 1909 and designed to dethrone the Cross, exalt the flesh, and prepare the world to embrace the ultimate Christ-rejecter: the Antichrist himself.

“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist…”
— 1 John 2:22

Scofield didn’t just interpret prophecy, he rewrote the Gospel. And now modern pulpits echo that rewrite, not out of ignorance, but by willful alliance with a system that denies the Son of God and glorifies His enemies.

It’s like The Lost Boys movie from the 1980s —
Except the twist isn’t that your neighbors are vampires…
It’s that your pastors are.

They are literally instruments of the Dragon.
Wolves in pulpits and deceivers in suits on TV 24/7/365.
And their gospel is not the Gospel of Christ.

It’s the gospel of the synagogue of Satan.

Any atheist that made it all the way down here and just converted to Christ is now calling everyone they know
to warn them that - "its real" and to "accept Christ". They just realized that we're all living in a sci-fi horror-film and a bona fide, Satanic nightmare.

Because once you see it…
You can’t unsee it.
This world isn’t a sitcom, it’s Revelation with a laugh track.
And the punchline is damnation.

 

[Kokyu]

You keep mistaking blunt clarity for personal hostility, and righteous rebuke for a tantrum. That’s not surprising when a generation has been raised on Scofield footnotes instead of apostolic doctrine, they flinch when they hear the Gospel undiluted.

Come on, now. I'm no Dispensationalist and was not raised on "Scofield's footnotes instead of apostolic doctrine." My father has always been staunchly opposed to the Secret Rapture and Dispensational interpretive system and raised us accordingly. You're being unduly dismissive here, then, working a form of the Poisoning the Well/ad hominem fallacy.

There is no such thing as a "righteous rebuke" that descends into propagandist hyperbolic rhetoric and departs from the grace and peaceableness of "the wisdom that is from above."

Let me say it plainly:
What I’m calling out is not “just another viewpoint", it’s not a “disagreement among brothers.” It’s an entirely different theological system with a different eschatology, a different definition of Israel, a different gospel, and at its core—a different Christ.

No, this is not so. I've listened to Dispensationalists for decades (its difficult to avoid them in North American Protestant evangelicalism) and I have not found that they preach a "different Christ." Maybe I'm just not encountering the hyper-Dispensationalists that you are, but the Christ the Dispensationalists that I do know preach is very much the one presented in the pages of my Bible.

Scofield didn’t just insert new ideas, he rewired the entire redemptive timeline to exalt unbelief, marginalize the Church, and grant salvific honor to those who trample the blood of Christ.

This is called Strawmanning. This is a logical fallacy typically employed by propagandists.

Not Peter.
Not Paul.
Not John.
Not a single early Church Father would recognize this Dispensational fantasy from Hell as Christianity.
That’s not hyperbole—that’s history.

Yes, I am aware of how recent a thing Dispensationalism is in the history of the Church.

You want to quote James 3? Fine. Let’s finish the sentence:
“But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth… This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.” (James 3:14–15)

This doesn't finish the sentence, it precedes what I quoted to you from the chapter. Quoting James's words here doesn't somehow negate what he wrote after them.

Dispensationalism is that sensual, earthly wisdom.
It flatters the flesh, exalts the carnal nation, and denies the mystery of the Church.

Maybe so, but this doesn't excuse you from being a minister of the pure, peaceable, easily entreated, impartial, merciful "wisdom that is from above."

You think I should sit back and “let God handle it in His timing”? You mean like Paul did when he named false teachers publicly and cursed false gospels?

No, I mean you cannot convince people to abandon Dispensationalism by haranguing and disparaging them through overblown, angry rhetoric of their interpretive systematic. And God doesn't need you to do this. He is quite capable of "giving repentance to the acknowledging of the truth" to those deceived by Scofield's stuff without you. He certainly doesn't need you to fume and fuss about Dispensationalism as you've been doing. Disagree, certainly; if you're convinced you're right, argue for your view, absolutely; but "the servant of the Lord must not strive but be GENTLE unto all men, apt to teach, PATIENT, in MEEKNESS instructing others. Will you be such a servant?

Scofieldism has birthed a Zionist-worshiping, prophecy-obsessed, Church-debasing cult movement that calls itself “Bible believing”—yet splits the Gospel, divides the people of God, and bows to a Christ-rejecting state that bans the Gospel and waits for the Antichrist.
These people have been totally brainwashed by the Dragon himself and are completely out of their minds.

See? Here's a great example of how you move from criticism of the systematic to ad hominem. You start with a rhetorically overblown description of "Scofieldism" but end with deriding people as brain-washed and completely out of their minds.

I realize that you've invested in the practice of doing this and have formed a very strong pattern of language and tone that I doubt you can set aside. But, brother, you're not convincing the objects of your tirade to leave off their error by railing at them. "The wrath of man does not work the righteousness of God." (Ja. 1:20).

And when I say that, you call me the problem?

No.
The problem is a Church that fears being called divisive more than it fears being deceived. A Church that confuses gentleness with spinelessness. A Church that forgot how to guard the flock—because it’s too busy feeding wolves with grace quotes taken out of context.

It doesn't follow that because you're attacking the error of Dispensationalism that you can't ever, therefore, be guilty of doing so in a way displeasing to God. You can be doing the right thing in contending with Dispensationalism but doing the wrong thing in how you go about it. And when I compare what God has commanded of you as His servant to what you're doing in this thread, I see this very clearly.

No one has confused gentleness with spinelessness. I've not once urged you to back off your view of Dispensationalism as erroneous, only to leave off the ungracious way you state your view. It is possible, you know, for you to stand unmoved against Scofield's ideas without the rhetorical "teeth and claws" you are presently using.

And you've yet to show how I've taken the verses I've quoted to you out of context.

I don’t hate you, I’m not angry with you.
But I’ll say it one more time for the back row:

Dispensationalism is not a secondary issue.
It’s a theological mind-virus from the Pit that exalts the flesh and dethrones the Cross.
It's from Hell.

I've been posting online now for more than twenty years and have a very thick skin. I don't get disturbed by strong rhetoric or nasty personal attacks, so don't worry that I think you're angry with me. You're not, but even if you were, it wouldn't ruffle my feathers any.

In any case, hyperbolic Strawmanning isn't going to change the mind of a Dispensationalist. It will just make them defensive and angry and thus more resistant to your views. People shy away from too much heat even when it comes from light.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Come on, now. I'm no Dispensationalist and was not raised on "Scofield's footnotes instead of apostolic doctrine." My father has always been staunchly opposed to the Secret Rapture and Dispensational interpretive system and raised us accordingly. You're being unduly dismissive here, then, working a form of the Poisoning the Well/ad hominem fallacy.

There is no such thing as a "righteous rebuke" that descends into propagandist hyperbolic rhetoric and departs from the grace and peaceableness of "the wisdom that is from above."



No, this is not so. I've listened to Dispensationalists for decades (its difficult to avoid them in North American Protestant evangelicalism) and I have not found that they preach a "different Christ." Maybe I'm just not encountering the hyper-Dispensationalists that you are, but the Christ the Dispensationalists that I do know preach is very much the one presented in the pages of my Bible.



This is called Strawmanning. This is a logical fallacy typically employed by propagandists.



Yes, I am aware of how recent a thing Dispensationalism is in the history of the Church.



This doesn't finish the sentence, it precedes what I quoted to you from the chapter. Quoting James's words here doesn't somehow negate what he wrote after them.



Maybe so, but this doesn't excuse you from being a minister of the pure, peaceable, easily entreated, impartial, merciful "wisdom that is from above."



No, I mean you cannot convince people to abandon Dispensationalism by haranguing and disparaging them through overblown, angry rhetoric of their interpretive systematic. And God doesn't need you to do this. He is quite capable of "giving repentance to the acknowledging of the truth" to those deceived by Scofield's stuff without you. He certainly doesn't need you to fume and fuss about Dispensationalism as you've been doing. Disagree, certainly; if you're convinced you're right, argue for your view, absolutely; but "the servant of the Lord must not strive but be GENTLE unto all men, apt to teach, PATIENT, in MEEKNESS instructing others. Will you be such a servant?



See? Here's a great example of how you move from criticism of the systematic to ad hominem. You start with a rhetorically overblown description of "Scofieldism" but end with deriding people as brain-washed and completely out of their minds.

I realize that you've invested in the practice of doing this and have formed a very strong pattern of language and tone that I doubt you can set aside. But, brother, you're not convincing the objects of your tirade to leave off their error by railing at them. "The wrath of man does not work the righteousness of God." (Ja. 1:20).



It doesn't follow that because you're attacking the error of Dispensationalism that you can't ever, therefore, be guilty of doing so in a way displeasing to God. You can be doing the right thing in contending with Dispensationalism but doing the wrong thing in how you go about it. And when I compare what God has commanded of you as His servant to what you're doing in this thread, I see this very clearly.

No one has confused gentleness with spinelessness. I've not once urged you to back off your view of Dispensationalism as erroneous, only to leave off the ungracious way you state your view. It is possible, you know, for you to stand unmoved against Scofield's ideas without the rhetorical "teeth and claws" you are presently using.

And you've yet to show how I've taken the verses I've quoted to you out of context.



I've been posting online now for more than twenty years and have a very thick skin. I don't get disturbed by strong rhetoric or nasty personal attacks, so don't worry that I think you're angry with me. You're not, but even if you were, it wouldn't ruffle my feathers any.

In any case, hyperbolic Strawmanning isn't going to change the mind of a Dispensationalist. It will just make them defensive and angry and thus more resistant to your views. People shy away from too much heat even when it comes from light.

You’re not wrong to quote James 3 or 2 Timothy 2. But I think you're misunderstanding who those verses were aimed at.
They weren’t written to silence rebuke, they were written to rebuke the arrogant, not shield the deceived from conviction.

Paul didn’t write Galatians with a soft voice, he said, “Let them be accursed.” (Gal. 1:8–9)
He didn’t reason gently with the Judaizers, he called them dogs and mutilators.
Jesus didn’t whisper when He rebuked the Pharisees. He flipped tables and called them sons of hell.

And today’s Scofield-inspired system is no different: it divides the Gospel, creates two peoples of God, reinserts the veil Christ tore, and turns the Cross into a pause button.
You say, “But they still believe in the same Jesus.”
Then I ask: Which one?
The one who said, “It is finished”?
Or the one who allegedly came to offer a kingdom, failed, got rejected, and has to come back to try again?

That second one isn’t the Jesus of the Gospels.
That’s a theologically manufactured decoy with a fake Star of David hanging around His neck.

I’m not angry at you. I’m not even aiming this rebuke at you personally.
I’m aiming it at the system that’s led millions of well-meaning believers into a delusion and which has now mutated into political Zionism, dual-covenant heresy, and the false idolization of modern Israel over the Body of Christ.

And yes, I speak plainly—because soft words don’t crack hard walls.

You’ve said yourself dispensationalism is a recent invention.
So why is it so hard to admit that what didn’t exist for 1,800 years… probably isn’t biblical?

The early Church wouldn’t have debated this. They’d have called it what it is:
A man-made theology that splits the Cross, exalts the flesh, and feeds the Dragon.