God's Hatred

[Big Boy Johnson]

I am not a Calvinist; but to be fair, I don't think that is their mindset.

This is what some of their "brightest" minds have taught.

One has to be pretty slow to be a calvinist

 

[Sister-n-Christ]

It's very encouraging to hear from someone like yourself, who hasn't put God on trial for treason. Most professing Christians reject the fact that God is sovereign over all things, including who will be saved and who will be left in their sin.

I grappled with this, when I first came to faith in the Lord. I found it difficult to accept that God didn't chose to save many of my family members and friends. But thank God, He gave me the grace to trust Him in all things. Now I know that Gods ways are infinitely higher than mine, so they are past finding out.

I no longer carry that heavy burden of worrying about my family and friends, I'm blessed to have God do all the worrying for me, so I can enjoy life.

If we simply trust the Lord in all things, we can run our race without this heavy burden on our back.

When I first entered the faith I found Isaiah 45:7.
What I've observed when speaking with fellow Christians is that the power of God often fails to be fully understood. Even when God informs us of those powers in his own words.

Prophecy is a huge part of both testaments.
That prophecy exists is evidence of God doing just as he says.

Romans 8:28 "And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose."

God is the Alpha and the Omega. The beginning and the end.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

This is what some of their "brightest" minds have taught.

One has to be pretty slow to be a calvinist

Actually John MacArthur and RC Sproul are two of my go to scholars- both Calvinists. It does not disqualify them from all knowledge of scripture. John never actually taught TULIP, nor ever mentioned he was a Calvinist until RC Sproul asked. It is just a perspective that really is centered around God's sovereignty and our predestination, clearly taught in scripture. You could not argue with them on the topic - they know a hundred times more than you ... and would think you are too slow.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

When I first entered the faith I found Isaiah 45:7.
What I've observed when speaking with fellow Christians is that the power of God often fails to be fully understood. Even when God informs us of those powers in his own words.

Prophecy is a huge part of both testaments.
That prophecy exists is evidence of God doing just as he says.

Romans 8:28 "And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose."

God is the Alpha and the Omega. The beginning and the end.

You really think God created evil?

If you knew scripture you would know that lucifer perverted righteousness by choosing to be in opposition to God.... anybody that thinks God created evil does not know the Lord or His Word.

James 1:13
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

1 John 1:5
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Ezekiel 28:15 (speaking of lucifer)
Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

God created lucifer perfect... until lucifer decided to be in opposition to God:

Isaiah 14:13 (speaking of lucifer)
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isaiah 45:7 has been badly butchered and is not reflective of what the Lord says in 1 John 1:5 - This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

It's sad that some folks accept the devil's lies about God which are designed by satan to make them believe God puts evil on His own people tricking them to lay down under satanic attack and receive defeat having become convinced it's the Lord doing it but it's actually bowing down to darkness allowing devils to bring defeat upon them.

This is a classic tactic used in times of war to hit your enemy in such a way they they don't know they just got hit by their enemy.

This is how satan makes a fool out of Christians!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Actually John MacArthur and RC Sproul are two of my go to scholars- both Calvinists. It does not disqualify them from all knowledge of scripture. John never actually taught TULIP, nor ever mentioned he was a Calvinist until RC Sproul asked. It is just a perspective that really is centered around God's sovereignty and our predestination, clearlybtaughtbin scripture. You could not argue with them on the topic - they know a hundred times more than you ... and would think you are too slow.

Congrats on following heretics! John MacArthur and RC Sproul are about as false as one can be, just slightly above practicing witchcraft but not by much. At least witches and warlocks let people know what they are up front.

Maybe someday you'll follow the Lord and let the Holy Spirit teach you His Word.

 

[Christian Soldier]

God is Love. In my perspective I always thought of love as an act, an extention of oneself towards the good of another. So God helps and cares for us ( through acts too numerous to mention) since we are in our mother's womb, long before we are actually saved. And yes, I agree He sees the end from the beginning - which has always been my view. The doubt I have is does he love the reprobate, whom he knows is irredeemable? Now he could love them (caring for, providing for, keeping their hearts beating, physically healing them( to a certain point at which time he let's them go ( gives them over) to their debased sinful lives and to their demise. Then He sort of turns off the spigot.

The Bible describes God in many ways, not just love. we can say God is angry, God is jealous, God is a God of vengeance, God is a Man of War and much more.

I wouldn't venture to presume that God loves (the reprobate), because God is mysterious. His ways are past finding out and His wisdom is infinitely higher than ours.
There are many things Gods has not revealed to us about Himself, I believe it's because w are not equipped to handle much of what He is hiding from us.

We wouldn't want our children to see or hear some things, as it would be very disturbing for them. Likewise, I believe God is protecting us by not revealing many things to us at this present time. I remember having a very difficult time when some unbelieving loved ones died in tragic circumstances.
I couldn't come to terms with the reality that they may have died in their sin and eternally lost.

I no longer struggle with that, as the Lord has taken my burden from me and now He's carrying it and I have peace and joy because I know that God is just and He would not do anything that is unjust. That knowledge gives me comfort. A brother reminded me that Gods children will receive the mind of Christ when we receive our glorified bodies in the life to come, and there will be no more sorrow or tears.

I personally don't feel any need to figure out and make sense of what God is doing and why He's doing it. His grace is sufficient, so all I need to do is to trust and obey.
We know that God brings the rain to the righteous and the wicked, but God also fattens the wicked up for the day of slaughter. So while it may seem that God loves the wicked from our perspective, it's not the case from Gods perspective. He has a reason and purpose for everything He does.

 

[Christian Soldier]

So you think God not only wanted Adam and Eve to sin, He MADE the sin?

And you think all the evil going on in the world is happening because God MAKES it happen?

Sounds like the calvinist brand of doctrines of devils.

Arminianism is the doctrine of devils, because it teaches that God is not all powerful, not sovereign over His creation, doesn't have the power of choice, and He is a weak liar.

Yes, the Lord Jesus Christ created everything that exists and He is in full control over everything that exist and He causes everything that comes to pass, and nothing can happen unless He preordained it.

Yes I know you hate the awful truth, but I love it because I know Him.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Yeah, God is mean like that. He prevents some people from getting saved and He also allows some to think they are saved but in the end they end up being rejected by the Lord - according to doctrines of devils taught by the calvinist cult.

Just like the followers of islam, calvinists have no idea if they will be allowed in to Heaven or not.

I feels sorry for you man to hear that you've been taken captive by the devil to believe his lies and cannot break free from it.

That's too bad.

I'm not sure if you're just trolling or if you can't see how contradictory and hypocritical your comment is; yo say-

"Just like the followers of islam, calvinists have no idea if they will be allowed in to Heaven or not".

If you actually knew what Calvin and the bible say about salvation, you would know that Calvinists believe in eternal security. TRhat means that nothing can ever cause a born again Christian to lose his salvation. We have eternal security.

Your comment exposes your ignorance and it shows that your not interested in learning about the truth of the gospel and your only motivation is to push the abominable doctrine of devils.

 

[Christian Soldier]

When I first entered the faith I found Isaiah 45:7.
What I've observed when speaking with fellow Christians is that the power of God often fails to be fully understood. Even when God informs us of those powers in his own words.

Prophecy is a huge part of both testaments.
That prophecy exists is evidence of God doing just as he says.

Romans 8:28 "And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose."

God is the Alpha and the Omega. The beginning and the end.

You entered at the deep end with Isaiah 45:7 it's certainly not a verse that a seeker friendly Church Minister would preach on.

Gods sovereignty is a stumbling block for "Christian unity". Most Christian denominations deny the doctrine of predestination and election, so their congregations never get to hear about Gods sovereignty. It's a tabu subject, just as Gods judgement is.

Gods Word tells us that many will seek out teachers, to tell them what they want to hear. As we can see thousands flock to have their ears tickled by the sleek wolves in sheep's clothing.

 

[Sister-n-Christ]

You entered at the deep end with Isaiah 45:7 it's certainly not a verse that a seeker friendly Church Minister would preach on.

Gods sovereignty is a stumbling block for "Christian unity". Most Christian denominations deny the doctrine of predestination and election, so their congregations never get to hear about Gods sovereignty. It's a tabu subject, just as Gods judgement is.

Gods Word tells us that many will seek out teachers, to tell them what they want to hear. As we can see thousands flock to have their ears tickled by the sleek wolves in sheep's clothing.

Some want to believe in a God they invent. Because they can't handle what God says of himself in his own word.

I think that's what divides the church. And why there are hundreds of denominations. People take God's words and make them in their own image and likeness.
And that ends up making a false religion. Not a spiritual relationship.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Arminianism is the doctrine of devils

I wouldn't know since I haven't studied arminianism

But I have studied calvinism and it's one of satan's favorite deception right up there with islam

He causes everything that comes to pass

There we go folks!

When a child molester rapes a sweet innocent little child - calvinists claim God MADE the child molester do what he did.

They believe this because calvinists are spiritually blind thinking satan is God. They are following the wrong guy!

They are crazy confused which is not of God because God is not the author of confusion, satan is.

Calvinists believe in eternal security. TRhat means that nothing can ever cause a born again Christian to lose his salvation. We have eternal security.

The Bible is very clear, one can in fact lose their salvation.

It's also very clear that heresy is one of the works of the flesh and is on God's list of "those that do these things shall not inherit the Kingdom" so sadly calvinist are following a different jesus and a different gospel than the Gospel of Jesus Christ as taught in the New Testament.

Better luck next time!

Your comment exposes your ignorance and it shows that your not interested in learning about the truth of the gospel and your only motivation is to push the abominable doctrine of devils.

Well when the future gets here we'll see who ends up where.
I can hardly wait to be with the Lord Jesus in His presence


It's really sad about where those following the fake jesus are going. Really sad.

 

[Scott Downey]

The Bible describes God in many ways, not just love. we can say God is angry, God is jealous, God is a God of vengeance, God is a Man of War and much more.

I wouldn't venture to presume that God loves (the reprobate), because God is mysterious. His ways are past finding out and His wisdom is infinitely higher than ours.
There are many things Gods has not revealed to us about Himself, I believe it's because w are not equipped to handle much of what He is hiding from us.

We wouldn't want our children to see or hear some things, as it would be very disturbing for them. Likewise, I believe God is protecting us by not revealing many things to us at this present time. I remember having a very difficult time when some unbelieving loved ones died in tragic circumstances.
I couldn't come to terms with the reality that they may have died in their sin and eternally lost.

I no longer struggle with that, as the Lord has taken my burden from me and now He's carrying it and I have peace and joy because I know that God is just and He would not do anything that is unjust. That knowledge gives me comfort. A brother reminded me that Gods children will receive the mind of Christ when we receive our glorified bodies in the life to come, and there will be no more sorrow or tears.

I personally don't feel any need to figure out and make sense of what God is doing and why He's doing it. His grace is sufficient, so all I need to do is to trust and obey.
We know that God brings the rain to the righteous and the wicked, but God also fattens the wicked up for the day of slaughter. So while it may seem that God loves the wicked from our perspective, it's not the case from Gods perspective. He has a reason and purpose for everything He does.

Matthew 8
21 Then another of His disciples said to Him, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.”

22 But Jesus said to him, “Follow Me, and let the dead bury their own dead.”

Matthew 10:37
He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.

John 12

42 Nevertheless even among the rulers many believed in Him, but because of the Pharisees they did not confess Him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue; 43 for they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.

44 Then Jesus cried out and said, “He who believes in Me, believes not in Me but in Him who sent Me. 45 And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me. 46 I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness. 47 And if anyone hears My words and does not [g]believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. 48 He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him—the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day. 49 For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. 50 And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.”

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The command is everlasting life for the sheep of Christ alone, no one else qualifies. His sheep believe in Him, and that means they believe in God, the Father who sent Christ, the Son, to show them the way to the Father who is in Heaven.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

The command is everlasting life for the sheep of Christ alone, no one else qualifies. His sheep believe in Him, and that means they believe in God, the Father who sent Christ, the Son, to show them the way to the Father who is in Heaven.

John 10:27-28
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Notice this promise is ONLY for those that not only hear His voice, but for those that actually follow Him - walking in agreement with Him

The greasy grace crowd says this is works based salvation saying we have to actually follow Jesus

This of course is why so many of these folks live after the flesh disqualifying themselves from this wonder promise from the Lord.

Keyword is “follow” - those not following the Lord who are hearers only are deceived and shall be lost.

James 1:22
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

1 John 1:6
If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

John 8:12
Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.”

John 12:46
I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.

John 8:51
Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my Word, he shall never see death.

Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

1 Corinthians 10:12
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

1 Timothy 6:12
Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold (take possession) on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Here's a video of a greasy grace guy not accepting ALL that the Lord said in John 10:27-28
because he is a cherry picker who only accepts part of what Jesus says and ignores the rest!

 

[Scott Downey]

Here's a video of a greasy grace guy not accepting ALL that the Lord said in John 10:27-28
because he is a cherry picker who only accepts part of what Jesus says and ignores the rest!

Greasy grace?
You mean it is too easy to believe and be saved, so lets make it hard kind of idea?