The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

[Nameaboveallnames]

Listen to yourself talk. You are full of nonsense. You have nothing of biblical weight to bring to the table.

Avoidance and insults are your default. The Op stands unchallenged so far.

Only in your delusional mind. Your alleged "chained dog" is walking around like a roaring lion. You are the one who is avoiding reality.

 

[WPM]

Only in your delusional mind. Your alleged "chained dog" is walking around like a roaring lion. You are the one who is avoiding reality.

I gave you hard Scripture. You avoided every single reference. You have to! It demolishes your non-corroborated doctrine.

You didn't even know what corroboration was. That says it all!

 

[Nameaboveallnames]

I gave you hard Scripture. You avoided every single reference. You have to! It demolishes your non-corroborated doctrine.

You didn't even know what corroboration was. That says it all!

Keep telling yourself that while your alleged "chained dog" continues to walk about as a roaring lion. That one reality refutes much of your delusion.

 

[WPM]

Keep telling yourself that while your alleged "chained dog" continues to walk about as a roaring lion. That one reality refutes much of your delusion.

• Do you believe Satan and his minions are physical beings?
• Is the dragon in Revelation 20:2 a literal physical dragon?
• Is the serpent in Revelation 20:2 a literal physical serpent?
• Do you believe Satan literally has 7 heads and 7 necks?
• Is the key mentioned in Revelation 20:1 a literal metal door key?
• Is the chain mentioned in Revelation 20:1 a literal metal chain?
• Is the prison mentioned in Revelation 20:7 a literal brick prison?
• Do you believe demons need to be detained in a literal physical prison with literal metal chains in order to be restrained?
• Can a prisoner in a prison have great wrath while in chains?
• Does imprisonment mean immobility?
• Does it mean a prisoner cannot do harm?
• Can a dog on a chain walk or roam about?
• Can a prisoner in a prison walk or roam about?
• Can a prisoner deceive others in prison?
• Does a prisoner have the ability to kill, steal, destroy, rape and embezzle in prison?

 

[pandaflower]

Every Protestant is a Heretic.

Thank God.

 

[WPM]

Every Protestant is a Heretic.

Thank God.

What?

Get a life.

 

[pandaflower]

What?

Get a life.

I have one,thank you. It is eternal.

For Catholics, Protestants are Heretics.
And they too thank God.

A heretic is a person who holds beliefs or opinions that go against the accepted doctrines of a particular religion or established belief system. This term is often used in a religious context to describe someone who deviates from the official teachings of their faith.

heretic

1. someone who has an opinion that is opposite to or against the official or…

dictionary.cambridge.org

 

[Nameaboveallnames]

• Do you believe Satan and his minions are physical beings?
• Is the dragon in Revelation 20:2 a literal physical dragon?
• Is the serpent in Revelation 20:2 a literal physical serpent?
• Do you believe Satan literally has 7 heads and 7 necks?
• Is the key mentioned in Revelation 20:1 a literal metal door key?
• Is the chain mentioned in Revelation 20:1 a literal metal chain?
• Is the prison mentioned in Revelation 20:7 a literal brick prison?
• Do you believe demons need to be detained in a literal physical prison with literal metal chains in order to be restrained?
• Can a prisoner in a prison have great wrath while in chains?
• Does imprisonment mean immobility?
• Does it mean a prisoner cannot do harm?
• Can a dog on a chain walk or roam about?
• Can a prisoner in a prison walk or roam about?
• Can a prisoner deceive others in prison?
• Does a prisoner have the ability to kill, steal, destroy, rape and embezzle in prison?

Yawn.

All of your diversionary tactics aside, here is what the Bible says about Satan's binding:

"And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season." (Revelation 20:1-3)

If you believe that at any point in time since the fall of man Satan has stopped deceiving the nations, then you are GREATLY DECEIVED yourself.

End of conversation.

 

[WPM]

I have one,thank you. It is eternal.

For Catholics, Protestants are Heretics.
And they too thank God.

A heretic is a person who holds beliefs or opinions that go against the accepted doctrines of a particular religion or established belief system. This term is often used in a religious context to describe someone who deviates from the official teachings of their faith.

heretic

1. someone who has an opinion that is opposite to or against the official or…

dictionary.cambridge.org

I don't care what the Roman "church" thinks? It is apostate. It is destroying itself throughout the world with its pedophile scandals. It is revealing who it really is.

 

[WPM]

Yawn.

All of your diversionary tactics aside, here is what the Bible says about Satan's binding:

"And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season." (Revelation 20:1-3)

If you believe that at any point in time since the fall of man Satan has stopped deceiving the nations, then you are GREATLY DECEIVED yourself.

End of conversation.

The deception that was on the Gentiles (ethnos) before the cross has now been lifted through the earthly ministry of Christ.

 

[Nameaboveallnames]

The deception that was on the Gentiles (ethnos) before the cross has not been lifted through the earthly ministry of Christ.

Which proves that the binding of Satan spoken of in Revelation chapter 20 has not yet taken place. As it is written, it will take place at the time of Christ's second coming when he ushers in his Millennial Reign right here on earth.

 

[WPM]

Which proves that the binding of Satan spoken of in Revelation chapter 20 has not yet taken place. As it is written, it will take place at the time of Christ's second coming when he ushers in his Millennial Reign right here on earth.

Reread. I had a typo.

 

[Nameaboveallnames]

Reread. I had a typo.

You should have stuck with the typo.

Anyhow, based upon your own words, you are far removed from reality. God help you.

 

[WPM]

You should have stuck with the typo.

Anyhow, based upon your own words, you are far removed from reality. God help you.

Revelation 20:2 makes clear, "And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years. And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations [Gr. ethnos] no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.”

Scripture often makes broad general sweeping statements. When Scripture tells us that the Gentiles would no longer be deceived it does not mean every single one of them, or even most of them, would be saved, just that the spiritual ignorance would be finally lifted from the darkened Gentiles. This relates to the Gospel light going out to the Gentiles (ethnos). Before the cross they were in darkness; now they are enlightened. They are without excuse. The answer to darkness every time is light.

With the Lord’s First Advent, the light began to shine brightly. Jesus confronted, overcame and dispelled the darkness at every turn. Satan was defeated on his own turf. Jesus bound Satan in spiritual chains. He limited his authority and influence over the Gentile nations and invaded his kingdom with the truth. Since the binding of Satan, the devil has not been able to prevent the spread of the Gospel to the nations, to keep the truth from shining bright on the once-blinded heathen or keep the Gentiles in spiritual darkness like they were in Old Testament times. Now the rest of the world has the opportunity to repent and receive deliverance and freedom. Satan's authority to deceive has been broken over countless millions since Calvary.

We see this with the special assignment that Jesus gave Paul in Acts 26:17-18: “Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles [Gr. ethnos], unto whom now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.”

Did this mean the deception that blinded the Gentiles would be finally be lifted from all the darkened Gentiles? Of course not. It is a general statement like Revelation 20.

Jesus, here, directly links the spiritual darkness enveloping the Gentiles to the power of Satan. He connects the Gentiles turning from darkness to light through the advance of the great commission to the deliverance of the Gentiles from the bondage or chains of Satan. This is how the gross darkness would be (and was) removed that hung over the Gentiles throughout the old covenant period. This is how they were delivered from the power of Satan to God to liberty in Christ.

 

[Nameaboveallnames]

Revelation 20:2 makes clear, "And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years. And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations [Gr. ethnos] no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.”

Scripture often makes broad general sweeping statements. When Scripture tells us that the Gentiles would no longer be deceived it does not mean every single one of them, or even most of them, would be saved, just that the spiritual ignorance would be finally lifted from the darkened Gentiles. This relates to the Gospel light going out to the Gentiles (ethnos). Before the cross they were in darkness; now they are enlightened. They are without excuse. The answer to darkness every time is light.

With the Lord’s First Advent, the light began to shine brightly. Jesus confronted, overcame and dispelled the darkness at every turn. Satan was defeated on his own turf. Jesus bound Satan in spiritual chains. He limited his authority and influence over the Gentile nations and invaded his kingdom with the truth. Since the binding of Satan, the devil has not been able to prevent the spread of the Gospel to the nations, to keep the truth from shining bright on the once-blinded heathen or keep the Gentiles in spiritual darkness like they were in Old Testament times. Now the rest of the world has the opportunity to repent and receive deliverance and freedom. Satan's authority to deceive has been broken over countless millions since Calvary.

We see this with the special assignment that Jesus gave Paul in Acts 26:17-18: “Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles [Gr. ethnos], unto whom now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.”

Did this mean the deception that blinded the Gentiles would be finally be lifted from all the darkened Gentiles? Of course not. It is a general statement like Revelation 20.

Jesus, here, directly links the spiritual darkness enveloping the Gentiles to the power of Satan. He connects the Gentiles turning from darkness to light through the advance of the great commission to the deliverance of the Gentiles from the bondage or chains of Satan. This is how the gross darkness would be (and was) removed that hung over the Gentiles throughout the old covenant period. This is how they were delivered from the power of Satan to God to liberty in Christ.

For more than the first 2200 years of biblical history, the only people saved were GENTILES. You know, people like Abel, Enoch, Noah, and Abraham who is called "the father of all them that believe" (Rom. 4:11). In fact, there was no such thing as an Israelite upon the face of this earth until God changed Jacob's name to "Israel" and he had twelve sons whose offspring became known as the twelve tribes of Israel. Furthermore, there was no such thing as a Jew upon the face of this earth until Jacob's/Israel's fourth son, Judah, was born, as that is where we derive the word "Jew" from.

In summary, as usual, you do not know what you are talking about. That alone would be scary enough, but it is even more scary when one considers that you are spouting off all of your grievous error on a thread you started about other peoples' alleged "heresy." Deal with your own heresy before you go pointing the finger at others.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Far from being chained like a dog, Satan walks about, as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour, and he needs to be resisted in the faith to this day by saints worldwide (1 Pet. 5:8-9).

And if we resist him he must flee from us (James 4:7). Was this kind of authority over the spiritual enemy available in Old Testament times? No, it was not. So, you are not understanding what Satan's binding is about.

The Apostle Peter, who wasn't a heretic like you,

Who in the world are you and where did you come from? WPM is not a heretic. Stop making false personal accusations towards someone who you don't even know at all. What heresy is he teaching? No one in their right mind would consider Amillennialism to be heresy. Premils believe it is false teaching, but what is heretical about it? It's not like we're denying the deity of Christ or anything like that. Our doctrine actually promotes the CURRENT kingship and authority of Christ and emphasizes the power and authority He and His followers have over the spiritual enemy, unlike Premil.

wrote this AFTER "Christ's sinless life, atoning death, and triumphant resurrection."

I could tear your post apart, line by line, but I will give you an opportunity to save face and to repent now.

LOL! You're all talk, buddy. That is very clear. If you really could tear his post apart, line by line, then you would do so. But, you did not because you're just making that up.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Listen to yourself talk. You are full of nonsense. You have nothing of biblical weight to bring to the table.

Avoidance and insults are your default. The Op stands unchallenged so far.

We can just add yet another Premil to the long list of Premils who are not able to support their doctrine with scripture and can only offer personal insults instead.