From the pen of Ellen White

doctrox · Jul 15, 2025

The Learner said:
Then document the claims about her that were made.

You said you're not SDA. Then get on with that. Meanwhile, let Brakelite answer for himself re: my post #276.

The Learner · Jul 15, 2025

doctrox said:
Now we would be spammed with SDA propaganda.

Bank tellers are experts at spotted counterfeit currency. However, they are NEVER allowed to study any counterfeit currency during their training!

Rather, they study every single detail of REAL currency. They thoroughly examine the graphics. They tear the notes, it, they sniff them, they write on them...

When a counterfeit comes strolling down the road, they spot the foul thing long before Joe Six-pack - because they have Studied to shew themselves approved unto God, workmen that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Truth is they do study the counterfeit currency after studying the genuine and how it is different from the real money. I know I posted on that before somewhere.

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She summarized the approach to distinguishing a genuine bill with the phrase, “touch, tilt, look at, look through.” The first step then, is to touch the bill. Because currency is printed on unique cotton-based paper, a false bill will often feel false. She described the most common reaction to the feel of a counterfeit bill as “waxy.” A person may not quite be able to describe it, but it just feels wrong. There are also two areas on a bill where raised print provides a tactile clue to a genuine bill.
Having touched the bill, Monica described the “tilt” features. First she pointed out the holographic stripe which is remarkably difficult to accurately reproduce. When the bill is tilted, this holograph will show all the colors of the rainbow. Additionally, each tiny maple leaf on the bill is color-split, so that it appears in two colors simultaneously. And, when studied closely, tiny numbers identifying the denomination of the bill will appear in the background of this stripe.
The third step is to look through the money. By holding a bill to the light, several features appear. There is a small, ghost-like watermark image of the bill’s main portrait. In the case of a $20 bill, this means that a tiny portrait of Queen Elizabeth II appears immediately beside a more pronounced portrait. Another of these “look through” features is a gold thread woven through the bill that will appear solid when held up against a light source, but broken or staggered if counterfeited.
The final step is to look at. “Look at” features include fine-line printing within the bill’s portrait and certain background patterns. These lines and patterns are so fine that they cannot be adequately reproduced by the casual counterfeiter.
We spent a small amount of time examining security features of some of the older bills that are still in circulation, and the features that are unique to lower denominations of currency. All the while I plied Monica with questions. She provided a thorough and helpful answer to every question I could think of.
That was my introduction to counterfeit detection.
And now my training would be put to the test. Monica placed before me a stack of bills of varying denominations. I knew that some were genuine and some were counterfeit. The first, a twenty dollar bill, immediately struck me as a forgery. Just as she said, it felt waxy and seemed to have been printed on standard pulp-based paper. I tilted it and noted that the holographic stripe was not really holographic at all. Though I was already convinced that this was a forgery, I pressed on and noted that no portrait of the Queen appeared when the bill was held to the light, and the fine-line printed was blurry and imprecise. It was clearly a counterfeit.
The next bill was a genuine five dollar bill. I examined the bill and found that everything seemed in order. The security features were in-place. The print was sharp and hidden features appeared just as they should.
I continued to move through the stack of bills. One bill almost seemed sound, but then I noted the thinnest white edge on the bill, showing that it had been poorly cut from a sheet of white paper.
I soon learned that identifying counterfeit currency is not a terribly difficult task. When a person knows what to look for, when he has been trained to examine the bill for particular identifying characteristics, identifying genuine from fraudulent can be done with great accuracy, even on the basis of only a small amount of training. I successfully identified each piece of counterfeit currency.
I will continue this article tomorrow by sharing some lessons I learned at the Bank of Canada."Counterfeit Detection (Part 1)

Counterfeit Detection (Part 2)

I wrote yesterday about my experience at the Bank of Canada as I was taught to distinguish between genuine and counterfeit currency. As promised, today I will provide a few brief applications, thou…

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doctrox · Jul 15, 2025

The Learner said:
Truth is they do study the counterfeit currency after studying the genuine and how it is different from the real money. I know I posted on that before somewhere.

Can't speak to your article dated 20 years ago. My brother currently manages a bank in Florida. Teller training does not include exposure to any counterfeit currency.

In any case, the bottom line is the Holy Bible, not historical SDA denominational dogma or bank teller trivia.

Where is Brakelite re: my post #276?

The Learner · Jul 15, 2025

doctrox said:
You said you're not SDA. Then get on with that. Meanwhile, let Brakelite answer for himself re: my post #276.

Someone claimed that and I asked them to prove what they claimed., The burden of proof is on them, not Brakelite.
You can also, prove the following too. Using primary adventist sources. I even gave you a head start by posting the semi-arian site.

what are your proofs? for
1. false prophet,
a) led to false God
b) false predictions
c) bad character
2. false teachings,
a) concerning major Theology --- God, Salvation
b) minor doctrines --- day of worship, second coming
c) other like persons, habits, clothes, laws
3. demon possessed, who witnessed that
4. mentally ill, --- Doctors reports I do not care about her say of those outside of Adventism
5. SDA don't follow Jesus, SDA teaches Holiness, Lordship of Christ
6. today's SDAism is a cult. History and Current Beliefs
7. Your non-biblical sources of those claims. --- how reliable are they?

doctrox · Jul 15, 2025

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The Learner said:
Someone claimed that and I asked them to prove what they claimed., The burden of proof is on them, not Brakelite.
You can also, prove the following too. Using primary adventist sources. I even gave you a head start by posting the semi-arian site.

what are your proofs? for
1. false prophet,
a) led to false God
b) false predictions
c) bad character
2. false teachings,
a) concerning major Theology --- God, Salvation
b) minor doctrines --- day of worship, second coming
c) other like persons, habits, clothes, laws
3. demon possessed, who witnessed that
4. mentally ill, --- Doctors reports I do not care about her say of those outside of Adventism
5. SDA don't follow Jesus, SDA teaches Holiness, Lordship of Christ
6. today's SDAism is a cult. History and Current Beliefs
7. Your non-biblical sources of those claims. --- how reliable are they?

Let Brakelite answer for himself re: my post #276.
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The Learner · Jul 15, 2025

doctrox said:
My brother manages a bank in Florida. Teller training does not include exposure to any counterfeit currency.

In any case, the bottom line is the Holy Bible, not historical SDA denominational dogma.

adventist history is a major part of the picture. My friend Walter Martin meet with SDAists to discuss their teachings. After that the main denomination believes in the Trinity. Mrs White Husband was a Christian Connextion Pastor. The main editor of one of their publishing Houses was one too. Uriah Smith editor of the Review and Herald. Uriah Smith – Adventist Pioneer Library one of his books on Revelation gave Charles Taze Russell some of his arguments against the deity of Christ.

Here is your head start: