From the pen of Ellen White

[Brakelite]

I'm certain the same could be said of Adolph Hitler.

And did he? Lead people to Christ and scripture I mean. Did he do that?

 

[Brakelite]

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Then why continually gush over her, exposing us to the blatherings of a documented false prophet, in a Christian forum?


I'm certain the same could be said of Adolph Hitler. Again, what is motivating you to carry on so with the blatant generic patronage?


Follow your example? You're joking, right? For what purpose, other than to deflect? No, I certainly won't be doing that. The documented facts have been posted innumerable times, in countless forums.

Again, what/who is motivating Brakelite's smooth but uninspired and diversionary diatribes?
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Not sure how you expect me to answer this. It's like asking someone, when did you stop beating your wife? Ask me questions about my beliefs by all means... Ask questions about Ellen White if you wish...
But you asked about my motivation in quoting her. Your attitude and responses are a vivid demonstration of why. Your unjustified accusations, barely disguised insults, and slander of a Christian woman admired by millions is ample evidence of the abject ignorance that is so prevalent in the Christian world regarding her work, and the ensuing false judgements and accusations against not just Ellen White, but also the testimony of those who knew her. Your attitude in fact matters me wonder what you are doing on a Christian forum?
But I do seem to remember, forgive me if I'm wrong, but you are Catholic are you not?

 

[Behold]

It's a pity that so few are actually preaching it.

This is the "great falling away".

 

[The Learner]

I just had a look at your posts, going back several years. And sadly, I notice your MO has remained the same: demand volumes of non-biblical rubbish so you can carry on with your non-biblical crusade. At the moment, your Soup du Jour is Ellen White, but from your previous posts, that character is clearly dispensable.

I am not playing your game, and I suspect others here will not, either.

When someone makes personal claims about a religious person, it is their responsibility to prove their claims. Such claims do not use the Bible, but serious non-biblical research. It is not garage just honest research. glow up dude

 

[The Learner]

He has to because He gave man free will and those that don't follow Him submitting to His Word thru the teaching ministry of the Holy Spirit that the Lord sent to be out Teacher have no excuse.






Their teaching doctrine not taught by Jesus and His Apostles in His Word.

These people have adventist their own false religion

You made personal claims about Mrs white that you need to prove, not just insult her.

what are your proofs? for
1. false prophet,
a) led to false God
b) false predictions
c) bad character

Scripture gives the above tests for a prophet, I think. You must give examples of her outside the Bible.

2. false teachings,
a) concerning major Theology --- God, Salvation
b) minor doctrines --- day of worship, second coming
c) other like persons, habits, clothes, laws

this is easy to do from her writings.

3. demon possessed, who witnessed that

requires reports

4. mentally ill, --- Doctors reports I do not care about her say of those outside of Adventism

requires reports


5. SDA don't follow Jesus, SDA teaches Holiness, Lordship of Christ

I know some SDA people who follow Jesus. Your claim is they all do not.

6. today's SDAism is a cult. History and Current Beliefs

There is history of semi-arianism, but concerning the Trinity they have that right.

7. Your non-biblical sources of those claims. --- how reliable are they?

Anyone of us can quote scripture, but that does not document your claims. The above requests is not hard to do.

 

[The Learner]

I just had a look at your posts, going back several years. And sadly, I notice your MO has remained the same: demand volumes of non-biblical rubbish so you can carry on with your non-biblical crusade. At the moment, your Soup du Jour is Ellen White, but from your previous posts, that character is clearly dispensable.

I am not playing your game, and I suspect others here will not, either.

Then grow up and don't make false claims about people.

 

[The Learner]

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Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. (Rom. 12:9).

Meanwhile, debate remains a characteristic of the reprobate mind:

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness...full of...debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers (Romans 1:28-29).

Again, what/who is motivating Brakelite's smoothly crafted but uninspired and divisive diatribes? (You boys should allow Brakelite to answer for himself re: my post #276.)

P.S. Evidently, "The Unorthodox forum is a gray area and is open for debate..." -- Angelina, Admin

Since discovering this forum is indeed "...a gray area that is open for debate...", I will leave you fellas to it. I'll take leave of Brakelite; I see he's away from the affray, having chosen to post elsewhere.
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Jesus debated people, does he then fit in your silly view that Meanwhile, debate remains a characteristic of the reprobate mind? grow up

 

[The Learner]

Don't you think calling people on their publicly posted ideas, kosher?
Doesn't exploration in ways of seeing/ understanding inevitably involve a level of debate and challenge?

These thing said are not to be construed as a yada yada party for the sake of hearing ones own voice ....and would Jesus flummoxing the religious leaders of his day by using the image on a coin to make his point be considered 'smoothly crafted'?

It is highly possible to drag the valid into the arena mockery and misrepresentation ......which presumptuous foolishness does to its own hurt!

 

[The Learner]

Not sure how you expect me to answer this. It's like asking someone, when did you stop beating your wife? Ask me questions about my beliefs by all means... Ask questions about Ellen White if you wish...
But you asked about my motivation in quoting her. Your attitude and responses are a vivid demonstration of why. Your unjustified accusations, barely disguised insults, and slander of a Christian woman admired by millions is ample evidence of the abject ignorance that is so prevalent in the Christian world regarding her work, and the ensuing false judgements and accusations against not just Ellen White, but also the testimony of those who knew her. Your attitude in fact matters me wonder what you are doing on a Christian forum?
But I do seem to remember, forgive me if I'm wrong, but you are Catholic are you not?

They both don't like backing up their false claims and need to grow up by really acting like born again Christians walking in the Holy Spirit.
I guess they are allergic to doing sound research.

 

[The Learner]

This is the "great falling away".

Not yet

2 Thessalonians 2
Easy-to-Read Version
Evil Things Will Happen
2 Brothers and sisters, we have something to say about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. We want to talk to you about that time when we will meet together with him. 2 Don’t let yourselves be easily upset or worried if you hear that the day of the Lord has already come. Someone might say that this idea came from us—in something the Spirit told us, or in something we said, or in a letter we wrote. 3 Don’t be fooled by anything they might say. That day of the Lord will not come until the turning away from God happens. And that day will not come until the Man of Evil appears, the one who belongs to hell.[a] 4 He will stand against and put himself above everything that people worship or think is worthy of worship. He will even go into God’s Temple and sit there, claiming that he is God.

5 I told you before that all these things would happen. Remember? 6 And you know what is stopping that Man of Evil now. He is being stopped now so that he will appear at the right time. 7 The secret power of evil is already working in the world now. But there is one who is stopping that secret power of evil. And he will continue to stop it until he is taken out of the way. 8 Then that Man of Evil will appear. But the Lord Jesus will kill him with the breath that comes from his mouth. The Lord will come in a way that everyone will see, and that will be the end of the Man of Evil.

9 When that Man of Evil comes, it will be the work of Satan. He will come with great power, and he will do all kinds of false miracles, signs, and wonders. 10 The Man of Evil will use every kind of evil to fool those who are lost. They are lost because they refused to love the truth and be saved. 11 So God will send them something powerful that leads them away from the truth and causes them to believe a lie. 12 They will all be condemned because they did not believe the truth and because they enjoyed doing evil.

 

[The Learner]

wife is kicking me off

 

[Behold]

That day of the Lord will not come until the turning away from God happens.

The "turning away from God" is found in the end times as a famine of the word.......a famine of The Gospel.

This is why, a peron like me, can go to any "forum", and start talking about "Paul's Gospel", and i might as well be trying to share Chinese Mathmatics.

"Paul who"?

"What Gospel".

So, See that?

That is "the great falling away" from the doctrine for the Church, that has become lost, unknown, and hidden.
I will say that there is a very mild blooming around the world......that is occurring regarding Paul's Gospel........and the reason there is a resurrection of the "Grace of God", as "The Gospel" is because its been fallen away from, for a very long time.
And the reason it has sprung to light, to a degree, is because Jesus is about to take His Bride, and so the clarion call for the last Gentile, is being sent out.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

what are your proofs?

Their teaching doctrine not taught by Jesus and His Apostles in His Word.

The burden of proof is on SDA to show where Jesus and His Apostles required Christians to observe Saturday "sabbath"

There's no call to action in the New Testament for this nor is there any mention of consequences for those not keeping Saturday "sabbath"

 

[Brakelite]

Their teaching doctrine not taught by Jesus and His Apostles in His Word.

And those doctrines are...

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

wife is kicking me off

We see who's wearing the pants in the family!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

And those doctrines are...

It's your religious social club, not mine

 

[The Learner]

The "turning away from God" is found in the end times as a famine of the word.......a famine of The Gospel.

This is why, a peron like me, can go to any "forum", and start talking about "Paul's Gospel", and i might as well be trying to share Chinese Mathmatics.

"Paul who"?

"What Gospel".

So, See that?

That is "the great falling away" from the doctrine for the Church, that has become lost, unknown, and hidden.
I will say that there is a very mild blooming around the world......that is occurring regarding Paul's Gospel........and the reason there is a resurrection of the "Grace of God", as "The Gospel" is because its been fallen away from, for a very long time.
And the reason it has sprung to light, to a degree, is because Jesus is about to take His Bride, and so the clarion call for the last Gentile, is being sent out.

Did you read 2 Thess 2? great falling away is not until the antiChrist is on earth and in charge.

 

[The Learner]

Their teaching doctrine not taught by Jesus and His Apostles in His Word.

The burden of proof is on SDA to show where Jesus and His Apostles required Christians to observe Saturday "sabbath"

There's no call to action in the New Testament for this nor is there any mention of consequences for those not keeping Saturday "sabbath"

I always appeal to romans 14

 

[The Learner]

We see who's wearing the pants in the family!

What is your wife's phone number so I can ask her questions lol

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

What is your wife's phone number so I can ask her questions lol

1-800-None Ya Business