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I was raised in an independent Baptist church, and every Sunday I heard about sin, heaven, hell, & Jesus' death on the cross. I heard that I must believe in Jesus so I could be saved and not go to hell. When I was 13 years old we had a revival at our church. At the end of the message, the evangelist gave an invitation asking people to come to the altar to accept Jesus as their savior. He came out into the congregation, and started walking up to people asking them to go to the altar. I remember thinking to myself "I hope he doesn't come over here." Well, he did come over to me, my brother, & our dad. When he walked up to me & put his hand on my shoulder, I immediately started to walk down to the altar, and my dad and my brother followed me. We were read scripture from Romans & were led to say a prayer to accept Jesus as our savior. Then next week we were baptized together at church.

Later, as a young adult, I graduated from college, started a career as a classroom teacher, & got married. During those years I had serious doubts about all the things I had heard in church. I even began to doubt the truth of the bible, or if God was real. Finally, I came to believe that I didn't need Jesus or God in my life, & forgot about God & got on with my life.

Several years later I began to think about God again, probably because my mother would say something to us about going to church. We lived in the same town where I grew up. We did eventually go to our church occasionally, and for some reason I began to think about my "unbelief." I had thoughts that I could be wrong about my thinking that the bible was not true, and that God didn't exist. After awhile I decided that if I was wrong & the bible is true & God is real, that I could be facing a fearful & tragic future.

The thought of spending eternity in hell was frightening, and that fear eventually led me to a life of uncertainty, & misery. I doubted my salvation because I did not understand how God would save someone just for saying a prayer “in Jesus' name” and being baptized. I was confused about all the teaching I had heard growing up in a church. I was confused about God & the bible. I did not understand the meaning of “believing” in Jesus. I did not know what to believe or how to believe.

We started going to church, the same church where I grew up, and I pretended to be a Christian. I began to really listen to the sermons and even talked to our pastor about my doubts. One bible verse that I had trouble understanding was Romans 10:13. I just did not understand how "calling on the name of the Lord" saved someone.

I began looking for evidence that would prove to me that the bible is true, that God exists, and that Jesus does really save us, but there was something missing, a missing link, and I did not know what it was. I needed something to convince me that it was all true. I talked to several Christians & asked a lot of questions, read several books written by well known Christian authors like Dr. John R Rice & J. Vernon McGee about how to have assurance of salvation, and read several bible salvation tracts. But, I could not find any answers that convinced me of the truth about any of the teachings I had heard growing up in church. I did the things I heard at church that I thought were necessary to get God to save me like saying a prayer “in Jesus' name,” making a public confession of my faith, repenting of my sin, publicly confessing Jesus as my Lord & Savior, promising to follow Him the rest of my life. I tried to make myself have some sense of faith, I said the sinners' prayer over & over begging God to save me, and each time I would find relief from the doubts. But, then our pastor would say in one of his sermons that to be saved we must really mean business with God, and I would question myself as to whether I really did repent of all my sins, or did I really commit my life to Christ, or did I really believe in Jesus to save me, and the doubts would return. I could not find a lasting assurance of salvation, and I had no peace. I could not concentrate on my job or my family. I was obsessed with a dreadful fear of dying without ever knowing for sure if I had done the right things to get God to save me. I thought that I would never know for sure that I was saved.

One night, out of a sense of helplessness & desperation, I said a prayer to the God I wasn't sure existed. My prayer was, “God will you show me the truth about believing in Jesus?” Next, I did something I had never done outside of church; I found our family bible, sat down at my kitchen table, and opened the bible to the Book of John, the Gospel of John. I opened the bible to the Gospel of John because I had heard someone say that the Book of John was the best place to find out about Jesus. I did not know what I would find there but I was ready to accept whatever it was if it convinced me that it was real & the truth. As I started to read the Gospel of John I had no idea that my life was about to change forever.

Yes, I was desperate to know that Jesus is real & to know him as my Savior. I thought I would never know, for sure, that I had found Him or that I had enough faith in Him, or that I had really believed in Him. I was confused about what it all meant, and just wasn't sure about any of it being real. But, the moment I began to read John 1:1 for some reason I was seeing the words of the bible in a different way. I remembered reading the Book of John in Sunday School as a kid, and our teacher told us to memorize the first chapter, but it really meant nothing to me back then. But, that night, as I sat at my kitchen table reading that big family bible, the words came to life and something was telling me that I was reading the truth about Jesus. I realized that the missing link I referred earlier was the Holy Spirit showing me the truth that I so desperately needed.

That night, as I read the Gospel of John, the Holy Spirit opened my spiritually blind eyes for me and “I got it.” It was as though I was a blind person who suddenly could see; He brought me out of darkness into light; He showed me who Jesus is and what He did for me when He died on the cross to pay the penalty for my sins. I saw that it wasn't about me; not about anything “I” could do, but about what Jesus had already done. The Holy Spirit completely convinced me that the Bible is the absolute truth, that God is real, and that Jesus is God who became a man so He could pay the penalty for my sins that I could never pay myself. God showed me how to “believe in Him” as He convinced me that all the things I had heard in church as a kid, and all that I was reading that night were His way of not only saving me from spending eternity in hell, but also is His way to change me now by giving me a new heart. Immediately my troubled soul was overwhelmed by an enormous sense of relief, and I forgot about all the things “I” was doing to get God to save me as I cast my helpless self upon Jesus. The Holy Spirit “turned on the light for me,” me & I “got it.” That was the moment I saw Jesus as the one who did all that God required for my sin to be forgiven. I wasn't thinking about how much faith I had, or if I really meant business with God, or if I really believed, or about making promises. I didn't need to try to believe, I didn't need to work up a sense of “faith.” I realized that to “believe” in Jesus is the same as to “depend on” or to “rely on” Him just like a child depends on their parents to take care of them. I knew without a doubt that Jesus was waiting for me to come to Him. I found myself talking to Jesus as though He was right there in the room with me. I was thanking Him for saving me and asking Him to change me His way, and that He did.

Later, I found another scripture that really helped me to better understand Romans 10:13; that scripture was the next verse Romans 10:14, “How shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?”(KJV) I saw that Romans 10:13 alone was just words without faith, but that together Romans 10:13-14 means that I believe in Jesus before I call on Him or that I called on Him because I believe Him.

I will use another scripture here although at that time I knew nothing about it but it helps to explain what actually happened to me that day: Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:” “Not of works, lest any man should boast.” God gave me the right kind of faith to believe just like this verse says, it is a gift of God. The faith God gave me was focused on Jesus’ death on the cross, and also believing that Jesus will do what He said He will do in John 6:37, and that’s “saving faith.” The “wrong kind of faith” was focused on myself, on what “I” was doing to try to get God to save me.

I found the truth about “believing” in Jesus when I turned to God through reading His Word, and by the convincing power of the Holy Spirit. Today, 50+ years have passed since that night, and I still have the peace of knowing, without any doubt, that Jesus did not turn me away. It is a peace that cannot be explained to someone who has not found that peace for themselves.

My wife also, became a believer.


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John I love that... We were born again about the same time (1974). I just left my testimony here on this forum, the similarities are really striking. I felt the same way in the beginning and thru most of my life I had doubts, and was always trying to gain God's favor. My struggles all ended though about 20 years ago. I finally understood Hebrews CH4 "Rest" For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His. Blessings to you John
 

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Hi rod, I was going to read your testimony before I responded to your post, but could not find it. Also, I am having a problem with my computer freezing up on this website; don't know why it is doing that.
My problem was that "I" was in the way. I was looking at "me" instead of looking to Jesus. When the Holy Spirit showed me that Jesus did all that is required for my sin to be forgiven, I found the rest that my troubled soul was looking for.
Today, not often, but sometimes I will have a doubting thought about my salvation, but I have learned to tell myself that it's not about me; it's about Jesus. I will quote a verse from my favorite hymn to myself, and the doubts go away. This is that verse from "It Is Well with My Sou.l"

My Sin, Oh The Bliss of This Glorious Thought
My Sin, Not in Part but The Whole
Is Nailed to The Cross, & I Bear It No More
Praise The Lord Praise, The Lord Oh My Soul

It Is Well With My Soul, Horatio G. Spafford

Blessings to you rod.
 

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Hi rod, I was going to read your testimony before I responded to your post, but could not find it. Also, I am having a problem with my computer freezing up on this website; don't know why it is doing that.
My problem was that "I" was in the way. I was looking at "me" instead of looking to Jesus. When the Holy Spirit showed me that Jesus did all that is required for my sin to be forgiven, I found the rest that my troubled soul was looking for.
Today, not often, but sometimes I will have a doubting thought about my salvation, but I have learned to tell myself that it's not about me; it's about Jesus. I will quote a verse from my favorite hymn to myself, and the doubts go away. This is that verse from "It Is Well with My Sou.l"

My Sin, Oh The Bliss of This Glorious Thought
My Sin, Not in Part but The Whole
Is Nailed to The Cross, & I Bear It No More
Praise The Lord Praise, The Lord Oh My Soul

It Is Well With My Soul, Horatio G. Spafford

Blessings to you rod.
Yes I love that song too. The old hymns, the writers sure seemed to understand the deeper things. I'll post my testimony below for you to read.

I'll start at the beginning and end with God extending His mercy and grace, while alone, one afternoon.


I came from a violent home, (drugs, alcohol, gun shots, being chased with knives, people thrown thru picture pane windows), in fact I was born three months early because my father kicked my mother in the stomach, I weighed two pounds nine ounces.

As early as 6 or 7 yrs old I was out on the streets till 3-4am, I was put in three orphanages... once my father snuck into our house, he put a loaded pistol in my hand and told me to shoot my sisters and my mother, it was crazy.

Through all of this, (which I wouldn't change), I came out a fairly normal kid, I was involved in sports and didn't do drugs, or drink. I thought I was a survivor, wanting only to make it through another day.

At age 16 (in 1974) I started to sense a need in my life, an emptiness that I couldn't explain. I knew I had to find God/Jesus, but who was HE? I had no idea where to find HIM, so I went to the local library to find books concerning world religions, God, and the occult.

At the library I met an ex-hippie (Gary Osborn) he saw my books and decided to share the message with me. Gary invited me to pray in the back of his V.W. so I did, I remember saying "God forgive me for my sins, and whatever you have for me I want it all".

At first nothing happened I expected, lightening or something. Gary said, "Just go home and praise God" I said, "What's that, mean" Gary said, "Just thank him" So I did just that.

Before I asked Jesus into my heart, I never heard voices, I never had visions, Also I never drank, and I never did drugs, but one week after meeting Jesus while in the middle of my last class (during high school) A voice, just as clear, as someone standing next to you, spoke, and the voice said, "tell them about Jesus"

I was surprised, but unafraid, I put my hand over my mouth, since I didn't want anyone to think I was talking too myself, I said (to whoever spoke to me) "I don't know what to say" the voice said "don't be afraid, I'll give you the words to say"

To this day I don't remember my words, but I spoke to those kids about Jesus and salvation, their mouths just dropped open and then, class was over, I walked out of that room, feeling like I had never felt before.

The next day was Saturday; I slept in the living room on an old couch. When I woke it was early and I decided to turn on the TV, to watch my favorite cartoon, the roadrunner.

As I sat there watching the TV, I got up and looked outside, everything was so beautiful, (I never appreciated nature, I just wanted to make it through another day). BUT now it was so pretty, I sat back down on the couch, and as I did, I was somewhere else.

I was sitting at a long-rough-hewn table, to my right, was Jesus, to my left was Satan, (he looked like a very handsome man but very big) then in front of me was the father, I couldn't see him, but knew exactly who He was. Suddenly three bowls appear, filled with what looked like porridge. Now the father spoke and said Satan dismiss yourself, Satan stood and screamed, then vanished. Three bites were taken out of the bowl.

Then all at once I was watching myself from a distance, walking with Jesus up a grassy pathway. Jesus was speaking to me but from a distance I couldn't hear him, I could see myself shaking my head (like I understand) then thru my eyes, as my normal, physical eyesight returns, I see the house where I had been sleeping, the TV was on, my favorite cartoon still playing.

I didn't know what had happened; I'd never experienced anything like that. I sat for a while pondering all of this. I say to myself, Oh I get it. This is like an initiation thing, that God does to people after they accept Jesus.

I'll go find some Christian or even a pastor, and I'll tell them what just happened, and they will explain it to me, and laugh saying "Yes same thing happened to me", there is nothing to do, and nothing to worry about.

How do I find some Christians, to talk to about this, and what pastor do I go to, we have a church on every corner. Surely it doesn't matter, they must all be the same, just a different building.

When I finally found some Christians to talk to, and told them what happened, they just looked at me with a weird expression on their faces.

Next, I decide, I must get a bible. I knew of a Christian bookstore in town.

The lady greeted me, asked if she could help. I told her I wanted a bible. She said what version. I said what do you mean, I just want a bible. She said we have NAS, KJV, AS, and others. I said what are those. Finally, she recommended a KJV.

Then she said what kind of bible do you want. I said give me the KJV, like we just discussed. She said Well we have different types. I said what do you mean different types.

She said we have Family Bibles, Study Bibles, Reference Bibles, Devotional, and Children's Bibles, all in KJV. Oh man, I was confused.

So, I said do you have a big one, one with pictures. She said, that would be a Family bible. It was huge, 18 by 12 by 5 I was so proud, I hopped on the bus, hoping everyone noticed my new bible.

I arrive back home, and later that evening, I'm all alone, my mom has gone to work. I sit on the couch, and I hear the following. "Read Matthew Ch 5". I grab my new bible. I don't even know what a Mathew is, let alone where is Mathew Ch 5.

I look in the contents, ahh I found it. I go to the page, and as I start to read, it's as if the word come alive and jump off the page. I start to cry as I read, overcome with joy, even though I have no idea (mentally) what Jesus is really talking about.

As I obeyed this voice, I noticed it became more frequent. It also would interrupt my agenda and purposes. Especially when I was around people. It would tell me to go talk to that guy, go sit by that lady, or leave this place right now. It would tell me about people's sins, needs, and reveal secrets of their hearts, always resulting in people asking Jesus into their hearts.

So, by now, I've started to learn a little from other Christians, attending prayer meetings, bible studies, and stuff like that. I start to ponder the experience a few months ago with Mathew 5, and this voice leading me.

I say to myself. They are both "The Word of God".... Yet very different from one another. One is heard; the other is read. One can be made alive, by the one who speaks, while the other one always brings life, and amazing results, even salvation when I do what it beacons me to do. Still, I found this overwhelming to comprehend. Now I understand, but then I did not...
 

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Here is 2nd part.

I became a believer in the 70s. My first year in Jesus was as if I had walked into the book of acts.

One day while hitchhiking I get into a car full of 5 kids, in 20 minutes 4 of them are saved, because God told me to tell them, that He was going to share secrets about their lives, with me. The 1 girl and the 3 guys burst into convulsions, tears and weeping so heavily I almost cried. The scary part was God said nothing about the driver.

Then a few months later, I ran into a test. God said don't go to a restaurant. I thought He was worried about them serving wine, I said Lord don't worry, you know I don't drink wine.

Little did I know that wasn't the reason at all. A brother was backslidden; he was a drug user. His name was Augie. Him and another brother started to fight after leaving the restaurant. This was too much for me (I came from a very violent home).

I decided to leave, God said don't go. I left. (This is and was all my fault).

I get back to the west coast. Almost immediately I feel something is not the same. I face sexual temptation, I fail.

This sexual sin goes on for 30+/- years. I do everything I can think of. I pray more, read my bible more, tell friends, confess to pastors, write bible teachers and TV preachers, I even fasted once for 30 days. I just couldn't find freedom from this "multiple times a day", every day failure...

Then I remember I have a friend from the Russian underground church. His wife has this very interesting gift. I had seen this gift in action many times. She would pray and INSTANTLY the answer would come. Her husband needed a worker, instantly someone would knock on the door asking for work.

Anyway, it comes to me one day out of the blue. "Why don't you ask Morika to pray and fast with you, so you might be free. So, we pray and fast for 7 days. A couple weeks go by, I forget all about it. Then all of a sudden, my whole life, my world falls apart. I lose everything.

My stupid response to this... "I've had enough, I'm done" I grab my shotgun, load it with double aut, walk into the woods near my house, put the barrel into my mouth, going straight on, I stretch my right hand to place my thumb on the trigger, and say God please forgive me for what I am about to do" I push the trigger with my thumb.

I wake up a few minutes later, I'm so cold. Blood has pooled all over the ground where I'm laying. I know I'm not in heaven, yet I'm not in hell. Oh no, how can I possible be alive? I wrap my shotgun back into the blanket, walk to my car.

Blood is everywhere, I'm soaked, my boots are full of blood (I have severed the carotid artery).
I get to my house, no one is home. I'm leaving blood everywhere. I tried to wipe it as I went. I walk upstairs to my room, I lay down, but I'm cold. I go into the bathroom my face is a mess. I hear a sound at the door; someone has entered the house. I hear running footsteps. I quickly shut the door. My son says, "Dad what's all this blood, open the door or I'll kick it down". He sees my face and runs to the phone.

I ended up being flown to the hospital, have 3 surgeries. A year later I'm at home recovering, my face still a mess.

One day everyone leaves. (Pretty sure they needed a break).

I'm alone, sitting at the kitchen table, it starts to rain. Suddenly I hear that same voice I heard so many years ago, in the 70's. (I'm just going to share bits and pieces here, and not in the order of the conversation) ...

He says, you notice the rain drops, how they are different one from the other? I say Lord I have no idea, only you know. He says and you're different. I start to weep. He says Not like that! I'm not talking about your face.

He says you are like a piece of fruit in a bowl with many other pieces of fruit (He means Christians). But you are the worst piece of fruit in the bowl. Why do you believe what you believe and who taught you (NOTE: VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION).

It is not your job to change yourself, that is MY JOB! You are the sheep, I am the shepherd, you are the field, I am the farmer. You are the vine; I am the vinedresser. You are not to judge yourself, nor are you to look for things to judge yourself about, or things in yourself you think need to change. That is all up to me.

When I have something, I want to change in your life, I will bring it to your attention and all you have to do is agree with me. Do you have a problem with me using sin, to accomplish my will?

A few days later. He says why don't you tell me the truth about your sin? I say what truth, that Jesus died and rose? Then He makes me see this truth about myself that I did not know, until He revealed it.

Suddenly I see it clearly. I love this sin. Note: Yet He is not afraid of sin, He can fix that, and everything else too. The most important thing is believing in Him, being born again, in Spirit.

So, I said God please don't bother me about this sin, leave me alone with it for I love it. I confessed this for 3 days and then found myself completely free. No temptation, no failure. Just free, that was almost 20 years ago.

Since then, He has spoken to me about several things in my life He wanted to change. Once about me not really trusting Him, which He immediately fixed, when I agreed, that He was right, that I wasn't trusting Him. Three times about forgiveness, and other times about different things altogether...



After my suicide attempt and after He spoke with me at the kitchen table. I came to understand things I never knew before.

One thing He made clear was His sovereignty. The other was "RESTING in HIM" Hebrews CH 4, to cease from MY OWN works. He told me "I want you to rest"....

So, I stopped all those things, that I did that I felt I had to do to be a good Christian. All that I did was whatever I wanted to do. Walk my dogs, do my chores around the house, take a nap, read a fiction novel, play a game, go to the movies with my kids ETC.

I did NOTHING, as if I had to do it, or had to gain His favor. I just ceased from all that stuff I had done for 30-40 years.

late one night I'm driving down the freeway, headed north on I-5. I am listening to some of my favorite 70's rock music. Led Zeppelin is blaring.

Several minutes go by, and as the music is continuing to play and still very loud, I don't expect The Lord to speak, it kind of catches me off guard. He seems UN-phased by the loud music, and calmly says to me "You're still not trusting me" (again my mind remembers His words... You must be brazenly, boldly honest, when I ask things of you), I reply "I know Lord I just can't find...

"Suddenly it's as if something pours into me, and I hear my self-state from the heart, "Lord, I just trust you".



I had 2 experiences I want to share with you. God had been explicit, while I sat that day at the kitchen table. He was very serious, that if He asked me something, I had to be boldly, bluntly, and brutally honest. I understood right away why He wanted this. It was about relationship.

If I was afraid to be brutally honest, then I really was not confident in His love, the depth of His love. It would then mean that I would play the hypocrite, not being brutally honest, like hiding from Him as Adam did, or play the hypocrite as the pharisees had done.

1). One day I am driving home from walking my dogs.

All of a sudden God speaks and says "How do you feel about your father and grandfather" (Both dead now, and both very mean men); He continued, "remember what I said about honesty"!

So, I said "God I don't even care if they are in hell"... Then He replied "But when I offered my grace and mercy to you, you gladly received it for yourself"!!!

Man, I just wept, and all of a sudden, it was as if something poured into me, as if God gave me the gift, to say the following... "I said Oh God forgive them, may heaven be their home, and I hope to see them again"

2). I am in Walmart one day. It was packed. I have always hated large groups of people, in fact people, unlike dogs, made me uncomfortable...

I whisper under my breath, man God there are a lot of people in here... Out of the blue, and unexpectedly, He speaks and says "I am going to make you comfortable with people" to which I replied "How comfortable" and laughed.

Maybe 3 weeks go by, I am in the same Walmart, I've forgotten all about the previous visit. Suddenly He says "Notice anything different?" I said "Yes, I would love to talk to all these people about Jesus...


Blessings to you.

rod
 

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Thanks for sharing. Don't know what to says except that I have never had any experiences similar to yours. I just know that I am saved because of the finished work of Jesus on the cross & that God speaks to me through scriptures.

Regards,

John
 

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I was raised in an independent Baptist church, and every Sunday I heard about sin, heaven, hell, & Jesus' death on the cross. I heard that I must believe in Jesus so I could be saved and not go to hell. When I was 13 years old we had a revival at our church. At the end of the message, the evangelist gave an invitation asking people to come to the altar to accept Jesus as their savior. He came out into the congregation, and started walking up to people asking them to go to the altar. I remember thinking to myself "I hope he doesn't come over here." Well, he did come over to me, my brother, & our dad. When he walked up to me & put his hand on my shoulder, I immediately started to walk down to the altar, and my dad and my brother followed me. We were read scripture from Romans & were led to say a prayer to accept Jesus as our savior. Then next week we were baptized together at church.

Later, as a young adult, I graduated from college, started a career as a classroom teacher, & got married. During those years I had serious doubts about all the things I had heard in church. I even began to doubt the truth of the bible, or if God was real. Finally, I came to believe that I didn't need Jesus or God in my life, & forgot about God & got on with my life.

Several years later I began to think about God again, probably because my mother would say something to us about going to church. We lived in the same town where I grew up. We did eventually go to our church occasionally, and for some reason I began to think about my "unbelief." I had thoughts that I could be wrong about my thinking that the bible was not true, and that God didn't exist. After awhile I decided that if I was wrong & the bible is true & God is real, that I could be facing a fearful & tragic future.

The thought of spending eternity in hell was frightening, and that fear eventually led me to a life of uncertainty, & misery. I doubted my salvation because I did not understand how God would save someone just for saying a prayer “in Jesus' name” and being baptized. I was confused about all the teaching I had heard growing up in a church. I was confused about God & the bible. I did not understand the meaning of “believing” in Jesus. I did not know what to believe or how to believe.

We started going to church, the same church where I grew up, and I pretended to be a Christian. I began to really listen to the sermons and even talked to our pastor about my doubts. One bible verse that I had trouble understanding was Romans 10:13. I just did not understand how "calling on the name of the Lord" saved someone.

I began looking for evidence that would prove to me that the bible is true, that God exists, and that Jesus does really save us, but there was something missing, a missing link, and I did not know what it was. I needed something to convince me that it was all true. I talked to several Christians & asked a lot of questions, read several books written by well known Christian authors like Dr. John R Rice & J. Vernon McGee about how to have assurance of salvation, and read several bible salvation tracts. But, I could not find any answers that convinced me of the truth about any of the teachings I had heard growing up in church. I did the things I heard at church that I thought were necessary to get God to save me like saying a prayer “in Jesus' name,” making a public confession of my faith, repenting of my sin, publicly confessing Jesus as my Lord & Savior, promising to follow Him the rest of my life. I tried to make myself have some sense of faith, I said the sinners' prayer over & over begging God to save me, and each time I would find relief from the doubts. But, then our pastor would say in one of his sermons that to be saved we must really mean business with God, and I would question myself as to whether I really did repent of all my sins, or did I really commit my life to Christ, or did I really believe in Jesus to save me, and the doubts would return. I could not find a lasting assurance of salvation, and I had no peace. I could not concentrate on my job or my family. I was obsessed with a dreadful fear of dying without ever knowing for sure if I had done the right things to get God to save me. I thought that I would never know for sure that I was saved.

One night, out of a sense of helplessness & desperation, I said a prayer to the God I wasn't sure existed. My prayer was, “God will you show me the truth about believing in Jesus?” Next, I did something I had never done outside of church; I found our family bible, sat down at my kitchen table, and opened the bible to the Book of John, the Gospel of John. I opened the bible to the Gospel of John because I had heard someone say that the Book of John was the best place to find out about Jesus. I did not know what I would find there but I was ready to accept whatever it was if it convinced me that it was real & the truth. As I started to read the Gospel of John I had no idea that my life was about to change forever.

Yes, I was desperate to know that Jesus is real & to know him as my Savior. I thought I would never know, for sure, that I had found Him or that I had enough faith in Him, or that I had really believed in Him. I was confused about what it all meant, and just wasn't sure about any of it being real. But, the moment I began to read John 1:1 for some reason I was seeing the words of the bible in a different way. I remembered reading the Book of John in Sunday School as a kid, and our teacher told us to memorize the first chapter, but it really meant nothing to me back then. But, that night, as I sat at my kitchen table reading that big family bible, the words came to life and something was telling me that I was reading the truth about Jesus. I realized that the missing link I referred earlier was the Holy Spirit showing me the truth that I so desperately needed.

That night, as I read the Gospel of John, the Holy Spirit opened my spiritually blind eyes for me and “I got it.” It was as though I was a blind person who suddenly could see; He brought me out of darkness into light; He showed me who Jesus is and what He did for me when He died on the cross to pay the penalty for my sins. I saw that it wasn't about me; not about anything “I” could do, but about what Jesus had already done. The Holy Spirit completely convinced me that the Bible is the absolute truth, that God is real, and that Jesus is God who became a man so He could pay the penalty for my sins that I could never pay myself. God showed me how to “believe in Him” as He convinced me that all the things I had heard in church as a kid, and all that I was reading that night were His way of not only saving me from spending eternity in hell, but also is His way to change me now by giving me a new heart. Immediately my troubled soul was overwhelmed by an enormous sense of relief, and I forgot about all the things “I” was doing to get God to save me as I cast my helpless self upon Jesus. The Holy Spirit “turned on the light for me,” me & I “got it.” That was the moment I saw Jesus as the one who did all that God required for my sin to be forgiven. I wasn't thinking about how much faith I had, or if I really meant business with God, or if I really believed, or about making promises. I didn't need to try to believe, I didn't need to work up a sense of “faith.” I realized that to “believe” in Jesus is the same as to “depend on” or to “rely on” Him just like a child depends on their parents to take care of them. I knew without a doubt that Jesus was waiting for me to come to Him. I found myself talking to Jesus as though He was right there in the room with me. I was thanking Him for saving me and asking Him to change me His way, and that He did.

Later, I found another scripture that really helped me to better understand Romans 10:13; that scripture was the next verse Romans 10:14, “How shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?”(KJV) I saw that Romans 10:13 alone was just words without faith, but that together Romans 10:13-14 means that I believe in Jesus before I call on Him or that I called on Him because I believe Him.

I will use another scripture here although at that time I knew nothing about it but it helps to explain what actually happened to me that day: Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:” “Not of works, lest any man should boast.” God gave me the right kind of faith to believe just like this verse says, it is a gift of God. The faith God gave me was focused on Jesus’ death on the cross, and also believing that Jesus will do what He said He will do in John 6:37, and that’s “saving faith.” The “wrong kind of faith” was focused on myself, on what “I” was doing to try to get God to save me.

I found the truth about “believing” in Jesus when I turned to God through reading His Word, and by the convincing power of the Holy Spirit. Today, 50+ years have passed since that night, and I still have the peace of knowing, without any doubt, that Jesus did not turn me away. It is a peace that cannot be explained to someone who has not found that peace for themselves.

My wife also, became a believer.


John
AWESOME and thank you for sharing your testimony.
 

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I was raised in an independent Baptist church, and every Sunday I heard about sin, heaven, hell, & Jesus' death on the cross. I heard that I must believe in Jesus so I could be saved and not go to hell. When I was 13 years old we had a revival at our church. At the end of the message, the evangelist gave an invitation asking people to come to the altar to accept Jesus as their savior. He came out into the congregation, and started walking up to people asking them to go to the altar. I remember thinking to myself "I hope he doesn't come over here." Well, he did come over to me, my brother, & our dad. When he walked up to me & put his hand on my shoulder, I immediately started to walk down to the altar, and my dad and my brother followed me. We were read scripture from Romans & were led to say a prayer to accept Jesus as our savior. Then next week we were baptized together at church.

Later, as a young adult, I graduated from college, started a career as a classroom teacher, & got married. During those years I had serious doubts about all the things I had heard in church. I even began to doubt the truth of the bible, or if God was real. Finally, I came to believe that I didn't need Jesus or God in my life, & forgot about God & got on with my life.

Several years later I began to think about God again, probably because my mother would say something to us about going to church. We lived in the same town where I grew up. We did eventually go to our church occasionally, and for some reason I began to think about my "unbelief." I had thoughts that I could be wrong about my thinking that the bible was not true, and that God didn't exist. After awhile I decided that if I was wrong & the bible is true & God is real, that I could be facing a fearful & tragic future.

The thought of spending eternity in hell was frightening, and that fear eventually led me to a life of uncertainty, & misery. I doubted my salvation because I did not understand how God would save someone just for saying a prayer “in Jesus' name” and being baptized. I was confused about all the teaching I had heard growing up in a church. I was confused about God & the bible. I did not understand the meaning of “believing” in Jesus. I did not know what to believe or how to believe.

We started going to church, the same church where I grew up, and I pretended to be a Christian. I began to really listen to the sermons and even talked to our pastor about my doubts. One bible verse that I had trouble understanding was Romans 10:13. I just did not understand how "calling on the name of the Lord" saved someone.

I began looking for evidence that would prove to me that the bible is true, that God exists, and that Jesus does really save us, but there was something missing, a missing link, and I did not know what it was. I needed something to convince me that it was all true. I talked to several Christians & asked a lot of questions, read several books written by well known Christian authors like Dr. John R Rice & J. Vernon McGee about how to have assurance of salvation, and read several bible salvation tracts. But, I could not find any answers that convinced me of the truth about any of the teachings I had heard growing up in church. I did the things I heard at church that I thought were necessary to get God to save me like saying a prayer “in Jesus' name,” making a public confession of my faith, repenting of my sin, publicly confessing Jesus as my Lord & Savior, promising to follow Him the rest of my life. I tried to make myself have some sense of faith, I said the sinners' prayer over & over begging God to save me, and each time I would find relief from the doubts. But, then our pastor would say in one of his sermons that to be saved we must really mean business with God, and I would question myself as to whether I really did repent of all my sins, or did I really commit my life to Christ, or did I really believe in Jesus to save me, and the doubts would return. I could not find a lasting assurance of salvation, and I had no peace. I could not concentrate on my job or my family. I was obsessed with a dreadful fear of dying without ever knowing for sure if I had done the right things to get God to save me. I thought that I would never know for sure that I was saved.

One night, out of a sense of helplessness & desperation, I said a prayer to the God I wasn't sure existed. My prayer was, “God will you show me the truth about believing in Jesus?” Next, I did something I had never done outside of church; I found our family bible, sat down at my kitchen table, and opened the bible to the Book of John, the Gospel of John. I opened the bible to the Gospel of John because I had heard someone say that the Book of John was the best place to find out about Jesus. I did not know what I would find there but I was ready to accept whatever it was if it convinced me that it was real & the truth. As I started to read the Gospel of John I had no idea that my life was about to change forever.

Yes, I was desperate to know that Jesus is real & to know him as my Savior. I thought I would never know, for sure, that I had found Him or that I had enough faith in Him, or that I had really believed in Him. I was confused about what it all meant, and just wasn't sure about any of it being real. But, the moment I began to read John 1:1 for some reason I was seeing the words of the bible in a different way. I remembered reading the Book of John in Sunday School as a kid, and our teacher told us to memorize the first chapter, but it really meant nothing to me back then. But, that night, as I sat at my kitchen table reading that big family bible, the words came to life and something was telling me that I was reading the truth about Jesus. I realized that the missing link I referred earlier was the Holy Spirit showing me the truth that I so desperately needed.

That night, as I read the Gospel of John, the Holy Spirit opened my spiritually blind eyes for me and “I got it.” It was as though I was a blind person who suddenly could see; He brought me out of darkness into light; He showed me who Jesus is and what He did for me when He died on the cross to pay the penalty for my sins. I saw that it wasn't about me; not about anything “I” could do, but about what Jesus had already done. The Holy Spirit completely convinced me that the Bible is the absolute truth, that God is real, and that Jesus is God who became a man so He could pay the penalty for my sins that I could never pay myself. God showed me how to “believe in Him” as He convinced me that all the things I had heard in church as a kid, and all that I was reading that night were His way of not only saving me from spending eternity in hell, but also is His way to change me now by giving me a new heart. Immediately my troubled soul was overwhelmed by an enormous sense of relief, and I forgot about all the things “I” was doing to get God to save me as I cast my helpless self upon Jesus. The Holy Spirit “turned on the light for me,” me & I “got it.” That was the moment I saw Jesus as the one who did all that God required for my sin to be forgiven. I wasn't thinking about how much faith I had, or if I really meant business with God, or if I really believed, or about making promises. I didn't need to try to believe, I didn't need to work up a sense of “faith.” I realized that to “believe” in Jesus is the same as to “depend on” or to “rely on” Him just like a child depends on their parents to take care of them. I knew without a doubt that Jesus was waiting for me to come to Him. I found myself talking to Jesus as though He was right there in the room with me. I was thanking Him for saving me and asking Him to change me His way, and that He did.

Later, I found another scripture that really helped me to better understand Romans 10:13; that scripture was the next verse Romans 10:14, “How shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?”(KJV) I saw that Romans 10:13 alone was just words without faith, but that together Romans 10:13-14 means that I believe in Jesus before I call on Him or that I called on Him because I believe Him.

I will use another scripture here although at that time I knew nothing about it but it helps to explain what actually happened to me that day: Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:” “Not of works, lest any man should boast.” God gave me the right kind of faith to believe just like this verse says, it is a gift of God. The faith God gave me was focused on Jesus’ death on the cross, and also believing that Jesus will do what He said He will do in John 6:37, and that’s “saving faith.” The “wrong kind of faith” was focused on myself, on what “I” was doing to try to get God to save me.

I found the truth about “believing” in Jesus when I turned to God through reading His Word, and by the convincing power of the Holy Spirit. Today, 50+ years have passed since that night, and I still have the peace of knowing, without any doubt, that Jesus did not turn me away. It is a peace that cannot be explained to someone who has not found that peace for themselves.

My wife also, became a believer.


John
Welcome John!

That is a great testimony, and a great service on your part for living it and giving witness. Thank you!

Scott
 

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Thanks for sharing. Don't know what to says except that I have never had any experiences similar to yours. I just know that I am saved because of the finished work of Jesus on the cross & that God speaks to me through scriptures.

Regards,

John
Dear John

Don't be concerned about that.

I think God had to do all these things in my life, I was and am such a BAD CASE, you were not.

You were just a person who had some questions, the same as a lot of young people and grown ups too.

Plus if God speaks to you thru His word, that is a WONDERFUL thing...

IF God dealt with all His children in the same way, where would the diversity be, we know He is so diverse, and vast, it would be impossible to know all about Him. It would be to much for us. He is so much higher than us.

But not only that.... My great failures, many times worse than others, required a lot of grace, and mercy, and for eternity we will speak to one another of His wonderful grace, and mercy, and how He dealt with us... Heaven is gonna be a blast.