Hell's Population Clock

[Scott Downey]

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Rev 16:17-18 predicts a global earthquake so powerful on the Richter scale
that cities all over the world will collapse at once.

Something like 2,829 lost their lives when the World Trade Center was
demolished by a terrorist attack in 2001. Well that was only a few acres of
New York City. Just imagine the body count when all of Manhattan comes
down at once. along with other major cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco,
Mexico City, Paris, Moscow, Beijing, Tokyo, et al. The carnage will be beyond
belief; and a great many of the dead will be infants and underage children.

The Bible says that we should consider not only God's benevolence, but also
His severity. We're dealing with a someone far more terrifying than even the
tyrants of North Korea, Communist China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and
the awful regimes in Africa.

Pop Clock Update: 4,289 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 236,306,744
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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Psalm 110

New King James Version

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Announcement of the Messiah’s Reign​

A Psalm of David.​

1 The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”

2 The Lord shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion.
Rule in the midst of Your enemies!

3 Your people shall be volunteers
In the day of Your power;
In the beauties of holiness, from the womb of the morning,
You have the dew of Your youth.

4 The Lord has sworn
And will not relent,
“You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek.”

5 The Lord is at Your right hand;
He shall [a]execute kings in the day of His wrath.

6 He shall judge among the nations,
He shall fill the places with dead bodies,
He shall [b]execute the heads of many countries.

7 He shall drink of the brook by the wayside;
Therefore He shall lift up the head.

 

[Webers_Home]

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● Rom 3:23 . . All have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

Well; in my own experience, that statement has been 100% reliable because
I have yet to encounter even one person in all my 81+ years who I felt was
successfully duplicating God's sinless perfection. So then, I've concluded that
God has set the bar so high that nobody can reach it. His own goodness is
the gold standard and, speaking for myself, I can't even come close to
equaling it let alone topping it; and that's not a good thing.

● Rom 6:23 . . For the wages of sin is death

Jesus told an interesting parable that just might be apropos in this case. It
goes like this:

"Suppose a king is about to go to war against another king. Will he not first
sit down and consider whether he is able with ten thousand men to oppose
the one coming against him with twenty thousand? If he is not able, he will
send a delegation while the other is still a long way off and will ask for terms
of peace." (Luke 14:31-32)

Well, anybody who reads the Bible is fully aware of the supreme being's
capabilities and would much prefer to be at peace with God rather than war
because there is just no possible way to defeat Him; hence the urging:

● 2Cor 5:20 . .We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were
making His appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf: "Be
reconciled to God."

Pop Clock Update: 4,814 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 265,232,144
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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[RenewedStrength316]

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According to Jesus Christ's testimony as a credible expert witness in all
matters pertaining to the afterlife; most of the world's responsible souls
haven't been making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.

• Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching,
and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, master, are there
few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the strait
gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

• Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and
broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But
small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find
it.

• Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.

Webster's defines "many" as consisting of, or amounting to, a large but
indefinite number; while "few" is defined as consisting of, or amounting to,
only a small number; viz: relative to many then, few is the lesser. Bear with
me while I flesh this out.

Well; according to the US Census Bureau: as of Apr 12, 2012 @ 11:21 pm
New York time, the resident population in the United States was
approximately 313,353,038 with a death rate of approximately one every 13
seconds; which translates to an average of 6,646 American deaths of all
ages, races, and genders during just one 24-hour calendar day.

According to 2009 US Census data; roughly 27.3% of America's daily deaths
are under the age of 19, which would indicate that approximately 4,832 of
the current daily death rate of 6,646 per 24 hours are adults. Giving the
"many" the benefit of the doubt by setting their maximum percentage at
51%, would indicate a minimum of 2,464 American adults transferring to
perdition every day: which translates to roughly 103 per hour.

That's a very conservative estimate as the Lord didn't really specify exact
percentages to represent the quantities of "few" and "many". But just think:
if the traditional hells were real places; then by the time CBS completes its
half-hour evening news report, a bare-bones minimum of 51 Americans
would be new arrivals.

Using the ratio of 2,464 condemned souls per 313,353,038 population:
computing the number of condemned souls worldwide from a currently
estimated global population of 7,006,673,612 people, would suggest
something like 55,096 new arrivals in one of the traditional hells every 24
hours; which translates to 2,296 souls every sixty minutes on the clock.

That rate would fill the 51,800 seats of the new Yankee Stadium to capacity
in roughly 22 hours and 33 minutes. In other words: if the world's
condemned souls started filing into the stadium at 06:00 am this morning,
then by 04:33 am tomorrow, the stadium would be full to capacity.

Christmas and New Year are even worse. A study done of 26 years of death
certificates shows that coronary fatalities are, on average, 11.9% higher on
those days than any other days of the year; with non-heart deaths spiking to
12.2% higher.

The netherworld never closes; no, not at all: it's open for business 24/7/365
nonstop and indifferent to global warming, Wall Street crashes, massive
layoffs, outsourcing, school shootings, terrorism, tsunamis, earthquakes,
nuclear meltdowns, air, water, and soil pollution, freeway pile-ups, brown
outs, threatened species, the price of oil, student debt, GMO, trade deficits,
protests, Federal debt, factory recalls, overpopulation, pandemics, lock
downs, desertification, genocides, revolutions, civil wars, acid rain, road
rage, oil spills, conscious decoupling, ISIS, LGBT marriage, Obamacare,
blood diamonds, fracking, twerking, and/or President Donald Trump's wall.

If classical Christianity's perception of the hereafter is correct; then it's
apparent that souls never stop cascading into the abyss in an endless
procession like the unbelievable millions of poultry broilers passing annually
through Tyson chicken processing plants on their way to Wendy's,
McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in the Box, Burger King, Chic-fil-A, KFC, A&W,
Arby's, Dairy Queen, Taco Bell, et al; and to supermarkets and restaurants
all over the USA and wherever else Tyson vends its meats. The slaughtering
and the butchering never stop.
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You're right—Jesus warned us that the road to life is narrow, and few find it. We should tremble at that. Hell isn't a metaphor. It’s a reality. And the gates of it are wide and well-traveled.

But here's what I’d ask—Where is your cross?

Because Jesus didn’t just describe the abyss—He descended into it to pull us out. He was crushed so that we could be cleansed. He went into the slaughterhouse, not with stats, but with blood on His back and mercy in His hands.

Yes, hell is full. But it doesn’t have to be. The gospel still saves. Christ still calls. And the Spirit still convicts.

So don’t just write about the fires. Snatch someone from them.
Preach the Word. Weep over souls. Warn with love. Fight like one who knows what it's like to be chained—and what it means to be freed.

We are not meant to be spectators of damnation. We are meant to be rescuers.

Jude 1:23 – “Save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.”

 

[Webers_Home]

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● Matt 22:2-6 . .The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which
made a marriage for his son, and sent forth his servants to call them that
were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

. . Again, he sent forth other servants, saying: Tell them which are bidden,
"Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and
all things are ready: come unto the marriage".

. . But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to
his merchandise: and the remnant took his servants, and entreated them
spitefully, and slew them.

Apparently that king was normally a very benevolent man who could patiently absorb
disrespect and insult after insult without losing his composure. The folks invited to the
wedding were probably accustomed to taking the king's temperate ways for granted
and assumed he would be passive as usual about their refusal to attend a royal event
dedicated to His son. But their indifference to honoring the king's son, coupled with
assassinating the messengers, was the straw that broke the camel's back.

● Matt 22:7 . . But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his
armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

Pop Clock Update: 4,822 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 265,672,912
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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[Webers_Home]

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● Matt 5:29-30 . . If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw
it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole
body to be thrown into Hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it
off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than
for your whole body to go into Hell.

I've no doubt that numbers of folk down below right now would gladly give
up a hand and an eye if it would get them out of there.

However, for now when people die their body stays here and they go into
the afterlife as disembodied whatevers. But out ahead in Rev 20:11-15 they
will be restored to their bodies in order to answer for themselves. At that
time, they will lose their bodies once again should the proceedings go
against them. Alas, for some folks the removal of a body part in this life
would be adequate to spare them the loss of their resurrected bodies in the
next life.

Pop Clock Update: 4,848 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 267,105,408
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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[Webers_Home]

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Folks on the wrong side of things in the afterlife should not be encouraged to
get their hopes up by expecting to be given a second chance.

● 2Cor 6:1-2 . . As God's fellow workers we urge you not to receive God's
grace in vain. For He says: In the time of my favor I heard you, and in the
day of salvation I helped you. I tell you, now is the time of God's favor, now
is the day of salvation.

● Heb 3:8 . .Today, if you hear His voice, do not stiffen your resolve.

The disagreeable situation like that described by Luke 16:19-31 isn't
probation, rather, it's for keeps.

Pop Clock Update: 4,853 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 267,380,888
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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[One 2 question]

Folks on the wrong side of things in the afterlife should not be encouraged to
get their hopes up by expecting to be given a second chance.

I agree with you if you are refering to ruling with Christ in His future 1000 year reign on earth.

Yet as far as joining Christ's Father's eternal reign after this, then everyone will not only get a chance to repent and be reconciled to their Creator, they ALL will experience the love, mercy and grace of God.

This is the great hope that lies before us. This truly supreme event WILL come to pass and every being WILL explore their God given purpose forever and without end.

Success after victory after fulfilment after contentment and REPEAT!

But yes, who are going to miss out on ruling with Christ for 1000 and spend time in the lake of fire? Those who do NOT repent and are NOT reconciled to God in this life.

The invitation to join Jesus has been given and is available now.

 

[One 2 question]

The disagreeable situation like that described by Luke 16:19-31 isn't
probation, rather, it's for keeps.

The rest of the story is not recorded. For the blood of the crucified Messiah will never lose its effectiveness. It will remain as it was from the day it was shed and forever.

Therefore the mercy and grace of God WILL continue to appeal to the offender of God, even to those in the lake of fire. Yes, His demonstrated love for them will become irresistible when they become fed up with their state, and the reason why for it. They WILL ALL repent and they ALL WILL experience their Creator's loving kindness, eventually. Praise be to God for His patience. Yes, LOVE IS PATIENT, LOVE IS KIND!

 

[Scott Downey]

The rest of the story is not recorded. For the blood of the crucified Messiah will never lose its effectiveness. It will remain as it was from the day it was shed and forever.

Therefore the mercy and grace of God WILL continue to appeal to the offender of God, even to those in the lake of fire. Yes, His demonstrated love for them will become irresistible when they become fed up with their state, and the reason why for it. They WILL ALL repent and they ALL WILL experience their Creator's loving kindness, eventually. Praise be to God for His patience. Yes, LOVE IS PATIENT, LOVE IS KIND!

The unbelieving and the wicked never get any mercy after the judgment.
They receive everlasting destruction from Christ when He come back, that is their destiny.
It is why the nations mourn when they see Him returning, His return means their judgment and destruction, while for believers it means their salvation from the evil age, and their being persecuted by the wicked.
Christ says," Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”

2 Thessalonians 1

1 Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy,

To the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:

2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

God’s Final Judgment and Glory​

3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, 4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and [a]tribulations that you endure, 5 which is manifest[b] evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; 6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with [c]tribulation those who trouble you, 7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who [d]believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

11 Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power, 12 that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 9
27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment,
28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

Revelation 1
7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega, [b]the Beginning and the End,” says the [c]Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”


Luke 18
7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them? 8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”

 

[One 2 question]

The unbelieving and the wicked never get any mercy after the judgment.
They receive everlasting destruction from Christ when He come back, that is their destiny.
It is why the nations mourn when they see Him returning, His return means their judgment and destruction, while for believers it means their salvation from the evil age, and their being persecuted by the wicked.
Christ says," Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”

2 Thessalonians 1

1 Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy,

To the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:

2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

God’s Final Judgment and Glory​

3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, 4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and [a]tribulations that you endure, 5 which is manifest[b] evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; 6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with [c]tribulation those who trouble you, 7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who [d]believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

11 Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power, 12 that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 9
27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment,
28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

Revelation 1
7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega, [b]the Beginning and the End,” says the [c]Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”


Luke 18
7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them? 8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”

Absolutely. God will judge the devil and his angels, sending them to the lake of fire which was prepared for them. Along with them will be those not chosen to reign with Christ in His 1000 year kingdom reign.

While doing time for their crime these will begin to realise the foolishness of their rebellion against their Creator. They will become repentant and remorseful and will turn to their Creator.

The Spirit of God revealed to me in a vision, the mass repenting of all those outside His kingdom. The one who led the turning back to their Creators was Satan.

As I observed this scene, the Creators accepted them, reconciling every one of them to Themselves.

God the Father went further than that. While engaging with Satan, He reached behind Him and produced a throne to His left. This prodigal angel was shown divine mercy and grace.

Now isn't that something amazing, that not only the angels in heaven will rejoice over, but we the firstfuits also, as we join them in worshipping our Creators. What a reunion party this will be! To be reunited with those we were separated from, be it us humans or angels. The prodigal angels have returned. This is so exciting! My heart can't help but be filled with joy right now. Oh the love of God for Their creation is absolutely astounding.

 

[Scott Downey]

Absolutely. God will judge the devil and his angels, sending them to the lake of fire which was prepared for them. Along with them will be those not chosen to reign with Christ in His 1000 year kingdom reign.

While doing time for their crime these will begin to realise the foolishness of their rebellion against their Creator. They will become repentant and remorseful and will turn to their Creator.

The Spirit of God revealed to me in a vision, the mass repenting of all those outside His kingdom. The one who led the turning back to their Creators was Satan.

As I observed this scene, the Creators accepted them, reconciling every one of them to Themselves.

God the Father went further than that. While engaging with Satan, He reached behind Him and produced a throne to His left. This prodigal angel was shown divine mercy and grace.

Now isn't that something amazing, that not only the angels in heaven will rejoice over, but we the firstfuits also, as we join them in worshipping our Creators. What a reunion party this will be! To be reunited with those we were separated from, be it us humans or angels. The prodigal angels have returned. This is so exciting! My heart can't help but be filled with joy right now. Oh the love of God for Their creation is absolutely astounding.

Yes, well, all that is outside of the scripture as to what will happen.

 

[Behold]

Therefore the mercy and grace of God WILL continue to appeal to the offender of God, even to those in the lake of fire.

You can't be born again in Hell.

"Universalism" is a "Doctrine of Devils" and a "false Gospel".....that leads unbelievers into Hell, as its designed to do.

God's Damnation,... John 3:36...... is not temporary, exactly as Etenral Life is not Temporary.

Christ Rejectors who died never born again will not go to Heaven, exactly as Born again Christians will never go to Hell.

 

[One 2 question]

Yes, well, all that is outside of the scripture as to what will happen.

Not everything God has revealed in eternity past or will be revealed in the future is contained in the scriptures of course. Not even everything God revealed through Christ in the flesh over those 33 years have been recorded and placed in the scriptures.

As Joel said and Peter quoted, this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy.

Where are all these revelations recorded that the Spirit has given through our sons and daughters, young men and women, old men and servants? They are not in the scriptures or bibles.

Once the Spirit challenged me on this I had to change my belief on Sola scriptura. I had such a small view of the Creator because the lens through which I viewed God and His creations was so extremely small and limiting.

I thank God for His expressed thoughts wherever they be found, including those in the bibles.

 

[One 2 question]

You can't be born again in Hell.

"Universalism" is a "Doctrine of Devils" and a "false Gospel".....that leads unbelievers into Hell, as its designed to do.

God's Damnation,... John 3:36...... is not temporary, exactly as Etenral Life is not Temporary.

Christ Rejectors who died never born again will not go to Heaven, exactly as Born again Christians will never go to Hell.

I'm not interested in labels and labelling myself let alone others.

I saw what I saw and for this i am really grateful to God. I don't decide on what visions, dreams, prophecies the Spirit gives me or others. That's Christ's prerogative. As Jesus was recorded as saying....

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

 

[Behold]

I'm not interested in labels and labelling myself let alone others.

I saw what I saw and for this i am really grateful to God. I don't decide on what visions, dreams, prophecies the Spirit gives me or others. That's Christ's prerogative. As Jesus was recorded as saying....

Certainly you understand that if you discovered A deceived person who would be found teaching the false Gospel = "Universalism".. on a "christian" forum or in a Church Pulpit or on a Youtube Video, or a commentary..... a False Gospel that is designed by the demonic, then this person will not be receiving visions or revelations from God.
You would certainly understand that their very Salvation is unlikely, at best.
And i know that you can realize, that God who wrapped Himself in Human flesh and became one of US< to offer the Sacrifice of Jesus's Body and blood to ALL of us.. will not be giving Revelations and "Visions' to someone or anyone who shares a false Gospel that insults the very Cross of Christ, itself, and is designed to lead unbelievers into HELL.

God would never give "visions" to that False one... , and im sure you understand this, perfectly. @One 2 question .

 

[Gottservant]

Something else worth noting: we are supposed to become sensitive to the difference between Heaven and Hell in this life, so that we can act on faith in the next life #justsaying

 

[Behold]

Something else worth noting: we are supposed to become sensitive to the difference between Heaven and Hell in this life, so that we can act on faith in the next life #justsaying

You wont need faith in the next life.
You only need it down here.

 

[Gottservant]

You wont need faith in the next life.
You only need it down here.

"the just shall live by faith" (letters?) Are you saying there is no reason to be just in the afterlife?

 

[Behold]

"the just shall live by faith" (letters?) Are you saying there is no reason to be just in the afterlife?

""the justified by faith"
So this means that , on this earth, we Give God our FAITH in CHRIST......and God accepts our faith to then JUSTIFY us, with the Sacrifice of Christ".
And now being "Justified by FAITH, We have Peace with God"......forever.

 

[Gottservant]

""the justified by faith"
So this means that , on this earth, we Give God our FAITH in CHRIST......and God accepts our faith to then JUSTIFY us, with the Sacrifice of Christ".
And now being "Justified by FAITH, We have Peace with God"......forever.

and does forever extend to the afterlife?

sounds like you are calling faith "good" and 'doubt' bad, but you don't think you will care in the afterlife?