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[GeneZ]

Galatians 6:16 – Paul calls the Church ‘the Israel of God’. That’s not a metaphor; it’s the Spirit’s definition of God’s people under the New Covenant.

Try quoting Galatians 6:16....

And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and (also) upon the Israel of God.​

But, what does that mean?
"The Israel of God?"
Paul was not calling the church the Israel of God.
But, Jews included in the church who were now the true Israel.

Paul referred specifically to the Jews in Galatia who were born by nationality of Israel, and who were also born again.

 

[GeneZ]

He was the human son of God not sure where you get perfection . But please offer your verses to back up your claim .

His humanity was not simply human. He was sinless perfection.

1 Peter 2:22


“He committed no sin,
and no deceit was found in his mouth.”

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Try quoting Galatians 6:16....

And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and (also) upon the Israel of God.​

But, what does that mean?
"The Israel of God?"
Paul was not calling the church the Israel of God.
But, Jews included in the church who were now the true Israel.

Paul referred specifically to the Jews in Galatia who were born by nationality of Israel, and who were also born again.

Your reading of Gal 6:16 carves the Body of Christ back into two classes; Gentile believers and ‘Israelite believers’—but that’s the exact division Paul spends the entire letter obliterating (Gal 3:28, Eph 2:14–16).

The Greek καί (‘and’) is connective, not separating: those who ‘walk according to this rule’ are the Israel of God.

If you keep insisting Paul is handing out a special blessing just for Jewish Christians, you’re not only twisting the text—you’re undoing Paul’s entire point: in Christ there is one body, one people, one Israel (Eph 2:16).

Once again, the Word of God crushes your theology under its own weight.

I’ve got to be honest with you… I’m not even sure what you practice can be considered Christianity at this point.

 

[GeneZ]

Your reading of Gal 6:16 carves the Body of Christ back into two classes; Gentile believers and ‘Israelite believers’—but that’s the exact division Paul spends the entire letter obliterating (Gal 3:28, Eph 2:14–16).

The Greek καί (‘and’) is connective, not separating: those who ‘walk according to this rule’ are the Israel of God.

If you keep insisting Paul is handing out a special blessing just for Jewish Christians, you’re not only twisting the text—you’re undoing Paul’s entire point: in Christ there is one body, one people, one Israel (Eph 2:16).

Once again, the Word of God crushes your theology under its own weight.

I’ve got to be honest with you… I’m not even sure what you practice can be considered Christianity at this point.

No division... Galatia was suffering from attacks by legalistic Jews.

Galatians 3:1-2​

​

O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, ​

before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? ​

This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, ​

or by the hearing of faith? ​

Galatians 6:16 was intending to lighten up and include such legalistic Jews who believed in Jesus, who were referred to as the Israel of God to give them some slack after Paul had ripped them up badly prior to that.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

No division... Galatia was suffering from attacks by legalistic Jews.

Galatians 3:1-2​

​

O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, ​

before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? ​

This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, ​

or by the hearing of faith? ​

Galatians 6:16 was intending to lighten up and include such legalistic Jews who believed in Jesus, who were referred to as the Israel of God to give them some slack after Paul had ripped them up badly prior to that.

You just admitted Galatians is about tearing down legalistic divisions.
But your interpretation of Gal 6:16 revives the very thing Paul was destroying.

Paul’s whole point is summed up one verse earlier: ‘Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but a new creation’ (Gal 6:15). Then in verse 16 he pronounces a blessing on that new creation—those who ‘walk by this rule’—and calls them the Israel of God.

He’s not suddenly softening on legalistic Jews; he’s redefining Israel around Christ.
Anything else is undoing Paul’s entire letter and taking us right back under the divisions of the law he just obliterated.

Paul wouldn’t even recognize the religion you’re defending.

 

[amigo de christo]

No division... Galatia was suffering from attacks by legalistic Jews.

Galatians 3:1-2​

​

O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, ​

before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? ​

This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, ​

or by the hearing of faith? ​

Galatians 6:16 was intending to lighten up and include such legalistic Jews who believed in Jesus, who were referred to as the Israel of God to give them some slack after Paul had ripped them up badly prior to that.

by the hearing of Faith of course .
I am gonna rewrite something so as it can help us all to see
there is a whopper of a lie going on in these last hours .
For many preach this legalistic fake love stuff .
They teach that if any religoin , whether budda or muslims or etc
just have love then they DO KNOW GOD .
As if that false love can save them . I mean any love
that denies the DIRE NEED TO HAVE BELIEVED ON JESUS THE CHRIST
IT darn sure aint the LOVE OF GOD , its of the world .
And for any to imply that a man of any religoin
can love GOD and their neighbor and even follow a false religoin
YEAH that is a lie . FOR IF ONE LOVES NOT CHRIST , THEY DO NOT LOVE GOD .
In fact they call him a liar . Hope this helps us flee from that false sensual love unity interfaith interreligious
finding common ground lie that i see getting sold to this generation .

 

[Lizbeth]

They have no idea that all the promises given unto the fathers
WOULD BE FULLFILLED IN AND BY CHRIST . nope they cling to the jews , they cling to the doctrines of men .
Having no real idea that it all pointed to THE GREAT KING JESUS .
And that the earthern was all patterned after the HEAVENLY , BUT NOT THE HEAVENLY ITSELF .
NO that WOULD COME BY JESUS THE CHRIST . Who entered not into
the pattern of the heavenly BUT INTO THE HEAVENLY ITSELF . JESUS IS BEING DENIED by many now .
JESUS IS BEING DENIED THE GLORY DUE HIM . many will wail as never they have before on the DAY of the LORD
and john hagee SAVES NONE , HE IS PART of the problem and darn sure not the solution .
Much all now of christendom no longer even realizes what it has lost
and something far scarier as well , THAT THEY ARE STILL LOST . times have got bad
and shall only worsen with whatever short time we even have left . Interfaith will merge
the decieved , this false love will merge the decieved of christendom
WITH ALL FALSE RELIGOINS and all will cheer Earthern jersualem on
as they beleive its the answer . Intefaith WILL GRAVE THEM ALL on the day of the LORD .

Amen, and I hope there are some ears to hear what is being said about this subject.

Being unequally yoked with unbelievers is what the interfaith movement is doing. Which scripture tells us we are NOT to do. And being unequally yoked with unbelieving Jewry seems to have been the beginning of it taking hold in evangelical protestantism, unfortunately. God says friendship with the world is enmity with Him. We are to be separate from the unbelieving world, and that includes unbelieving Jews. Of course that doesn't mean we are not to love and be kind to unbelievers, but it means we are to remain spiritually separate...set apart to God.

 

[amigo de christo]

Try quoting Galatians 6:16....

And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and (also) upon the Israel of God.​

But, what does that mean?
"The Israel of God?"
Paul was not calling the church the Israel of God.
But, Jews included in the church who were now the true Israel.

Paul referred specifically to the Jews in Galatia who were born by nationality of Israel, and who were also born again.

Tell me if a man comes to america as an alien
but then becomes a citizen , Is he not then termed american .
We are now citizens of Heavenly Jerusalem , OF ISRAEL .
no longer aliens ,
WE are citizens . aka we are OF ISRAEL . which does consist both of beleiving jews and gentiles .
Most jews who even dwell in the nations of this world , to include Israel
are NOT Even of THIS PURE and TRUE ISRAEL . comes by FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS .
The two are made one body .

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen, and I hope there are some ears to hear what is being said about this subject.

Being unequally yoked with unbelievers is what the interfaith movement is doing. Which scripture tells us we are NOT to do. And being unequally yoked with unbelieving Jewry seems to have been the beginning of it taking hold in evangelical protestantism, unfortunately. God says friendship with the world is enmity with Him. We are to be separate from the unbelieving world, and that includes unbelieving Jews. Of course that doesn't mean we are not to love and be kind to unbelievers, but it means we are to remain spiritually separate...set apart to God.

Yep . this is the love of GOD
that we keep HIS commandemnts
are His commandments are not grievious .
TO BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST and to love one another .
But many sure are now omitting the YE MUST BELEIVE ON JESUS
which in effect totally cancels out THE LOVE OF GOD .
Ye cannot LOVE GOD and reject CHRIST .
And FOR GOOD reason DID GOD warn and remind us in scriptures
NOT to be unequally yoked .
The one who does , IS THE ONE WHO FALLS .
And that is what i have been witnessesing
as more and more who clambor over this idea of just getting along
and doing good works with all religoins , ARE FALLING FOR THE CONCLUSION
they are all serving the same GOD .
OH its the same god all right , but NOT THE GOD .
Any who denies The testimony that GOD gave of the SON
has no LOVE FOR GOD , actually they call him A LIAR .

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen, and I hope there are some ears to hear what is being said about this subject.

Being unequally yoked with unbelievers is what the interfaith movement is doing. Which scripture tells us we are NOT to do. And being unequally yoked with unbelieving Jewry seems to have been the beginning of it taking hold in evangelical protestantism, unfortunately. God says friendship with the world is enmity with Him. We are to be separate from the unbelieving world, and that includes unbelieving Jews. Of course that doesn't mean we are not to love and be kind to unbelievers, but it means we are to remain spiritually separate...set apart to God.

Well due to the judge not correct not lets just get along and find common ground ,
Many now have bought the lie and many more are , quickly headed right into that lie .
THERE is GOOD reason why GOD speaks and why WE ought to have heeded HIM and the scriptures .
HE knows HOW to keep the sheep safe and from falling .
But many who now even cliam to believe ON CHRIST
are and have been worshipping GOD through
the precepts of men , and beleive me THAT IS ALL IN VAIN .
it will have profited them nothing .
On the day of the LORD which draws nearer every day
many will wail sister . Many will beat upon the door
crying open to us , save us from this ,
BUT IT WILL BE TOO LATE .
The time to preach JESUS and all sound doctrine IS today
for no man knows the day and hour their soul shall be required of GOD
nor does any know the day and the hour THE LORD BE A COMING .
and on that day THE SOUL SURELY SHALL BE REQUIRED . for the sheep a day of rejoicing
but woe wail unto all who rejected CHRIST JESUS and did so unto their own destruction .

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen, and I hope there are some ears to hear what is being said about this subject.

Being unequally yoked with unbelievers is what the interfaith movement is doing. Which scripture tells us we are NOT to do. And being unequally yoked with unbelieving Jewry seems to have been the beginning of it taking hold in evangelical protestantism, unfortunately. God says friendship with the world is enmity with Him. We are to be separate from the unbelieving world, and that includes unbelieving Jews. Of course that doesn't mean we are not to love and be kind to unbelievers, but it means we are to remain spiritually separate...set apart to God.

Many now try and merge the two tables to be as one and have and find common ground .
But the table of CHRIST and of anti Christ cannot be merged nor do they have ANYTHING in common .
For LIGHT and darkness cannot dwell as one and does not CO EXIST as one .
Light exposes darkness , IT DONT try and FIND COMMONground with it .

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen, and I hope there are some ears to hear what is being said about this subject.

Being unequally yoked with unbelievers is what the interfaith movement is doing. Which scripture tells us we are NOT to do. And being unequally yoked with unbelieving Jewry seems to have been the beginning of it taking hold in evangelical protestantism, unfortunately. God says friendship with the world is enmity with Him. We are to be separate from the unbelieving world, and that includes unbelieving Jews. Of course that doesn't mean we are not to love and be kind to unbelievers, but it means we are to remain spiritually separate...set apart to God.

And many seem to have forgotten or never knew
its not doing anyone lost in any religoin ANY GOOD
to simply leave them in darkness and try rather to find common ground .
To try and do good works together as one IS TOTAL VAINITY
will save none and will cause those who do so TO ONLY FALL INTO THE SNARE .
satan knows how to decieve sister . I have no doubt about that .
BUT I also know GREATER IS HE who is within the sheep
and THEY HEED HIS VOICE
not the voices of these interfaith hirelings and strangers who have done nothing
but TROD the true gosple under foot , to DENY to all lost religoins the DIRE NEED TO REPENT AND BELEIVE on HIM .
THIS is A DELUSION SISTER
and by its version of love , OH ITS A STRONG ONE SISTER
they merge more and more as one mind , one heart under what all beleive is love and of GOD .
ONLY , IT DARN SURE AINT OF GOD nor HIS LOVE .

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen, and I hope there are some ears to hear what is being said about this subject.

Being unequally yoked with unbelievers is what the interfaith movement is doing. Which scripture tells us we are NOT to do. And being unequally yoked with unbelieving Jewry seems to have been the beginning of it taking hold in evangelical protestantism, unfortunately. God says friendship with the world is enmity with Him. We are to be separate from the unbelieving world, and that includes unbelieving Jews. Of course that doesn't mean we are not to love and be kind to unbelievers, but it means we are to remain spiritually separate...set apart to God.

all the sheep of CHRIST can do is speak the truth
and pray for this people . But what we cannot do and must not do is CONFORM
and become as this people who clearly lead both the false religoins and many within christendom
RIGHT To the day of their destruction .

 

[Taken]

Unbelief noted . I am not preaching or teaching you must believe in the shroud as a hill to die on . Examine at your on leisure .

The Shroud of Turin Website - Home Page

Shroud of Turin Website

shroud.com

The Shroud Of Turin

theshroudofturin.org

Clip from second link .

In 1978, the Shroud Of Turin Research Project (STURP) was formed. The team consisted of 40 top-level American scientists from such world renowned organizations as the United States Air Force Academy, the U.S. Air Force Weapons Laboratory, the Los Alamos National Laboratory, the Caltech Jet Propulsion Laboratory, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), and many others (CLICK HERE to see the team). They were granted unfettered access to The Shroud Of Turin for five days and made an unprecedented scientific analysis of the Shroud, examining the cloth with the most sensitive and sophisticated analytical equipment. Their findings were based purely and solely upon the scientific facts garnered from this research. The results were surprisingly definitive.

Scientists have concluded that no one could have painted the image on the Shroud. The image has physical, chemical, and optical proerties that cannot be created artificailly. A medieval forger could not have created it, because the image of the dead man reveals details of human anatomy that were unknown before the nineteenth century. New Testament scholarship provides evidence of another type: A careful study of the biblical gospels reveals that the crucifixion and burial of Jesus exactly parallels the crucifixion and burial of the man of the Shroud.

Today, many top-level scientists are convinced the Shroud is absolutely genuine. We invite you to carefully analyze the evidence and the actual scientific findings, and decide for yourself. All we ask is that you keep an open mind, and think for yourself. If you review the scientific facts provided throughout this website (courtesy of the official STURP team findings), study the correlating historical records and consider the biblical accounts, you will find the scientific, historical, and biblical facts are all in complete agreement.

I have no reason to doubt that the shroud of Turin IS a genuine ancient burial cloth that was once covering a mans dead body.

I simply do Not have any reason to believe that shroud was the burial cloth that covered Christ Jesus’ dead body.

Three accounts in Scripture reveal an Order …
One account (of Mark, of Luke ) and of John, who present at Jesus’ Crucifixion.
Mark…15
Luke…23
John ..19

Joseph of Arimathea
(he, a Sanhedrin And follower friend of Jesus)…secured From Pilate permission to take charge of Jesus’ dead body.

Joseph and another man (Nicodemus, a recent follower of Jesus…)
Nicodemus was prepared, having with him, spices…

Mark reveals Joseph was prepared and had with him a clean linen cloth.

Together…Joseph and Nicodemus
1) Took charge of Jesus’ body.
2) Wrapped his body in linen.
3) Then carried his body (to a near by garden), where Joseph had his Own prepared unused burial cave, he was giving to Jesus for his dead body to be laid.
4) There Jesus’ body was Laid.
5) A stone Was moved to close the entrance.
6) The men left, for cause it was nearing the time the Sabbath to begin.

Wrapping, Hurriedly carrying Jesus’ body by two men…in hilly rocky terrain…would not IMO, have been particularly elegant / graceful…. But necessary.

Aside from a One piece Long linen Shroud…
Strips of Lines fabric were used To Bind the feet, hands, jaw.

The shroud itself… mystery.

One piece of fabric…
Was the body laid on the Shroud…Head at the center fold, two ends meeting at the Feet?
Or
The body laid on the Shroud…Feet at the center fold, two ends meeting at the Head?

I find no evidence mentioned or photos of the shroud of Turin… regarding the body placement ON that shroud.

It is my belief… it would be customary to place a body on a shroud with the center fold at the Feet and the Two end MeetingI]*** (at the Head…allowing the Face to be exposed, for washing, oil anointing, then covered with a separate Cloth (napkin).

Traditionally…
About the out side of the shroud… additional strips of linen would be wrapped around the body, securing the Shroud to covering the body.
Aromatic spices would be Tucked in and under the outer strips binding the shroud to the body.

In about the year 1354… “A” Shroud was “presented IN France”… along with a “claim”,
That “THAT” shroud was Jesus’ burial cloth.

Too shady IMO.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

They don’t even follow the words of Christ, but they’re worried about a shroud. Imagine ignoring the Word of God to follow the notes of a convicted conman; C.I. Scofield and then, in the very thread proving your entire theology false, your biggest concern is a piece of linen.

Relics won’t save you; only the Word of God will, and it just dismantled your entire theology. And the fact that your focus is on a relic that can’t save you is absolutely surreal. It's like jumping out of an airplane without your parachute on and your biggest concern on the way down is whether you left the oven on.

 

[Lizbeth]

Many now try and merge the two tables to be as one and have and find common ground .
But the table of CHRIST and of anti Christ cannot be merged nor do they have ANYTHING in common .
For LIGHT and darkness cannot dwell as one and does not CO EXIST as one .
Light exposes darkness , IT DONT try and FIND COMMONground with it .

Amen. This passage comes to mind:

Heb 13:10-14

We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.

For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.

Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach. (ie, come out from among them and be ye separate lest ye receive of their sins and plagues)

For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come. (this doesnt' sound as though God has any long range plans concerning earthly Jerusalem.....it isn't what we are to seek or look for)

 

[Behold]

I have the Solution ! Israel's PM Ben, should demand of who is attacking them, Just as was placed on Nazi Germany, Unconditional Surrender !

Israel is in a very difficult situation, currently, as they try to deal with Hamas.
They understand that Hamas is not going to let those last 10 Hostaged go free, as if they do that, they have no more life insurance.
So, while Hamas plays the game of talking about releasing them.....the worldwide media is creating the false idea that Israel is starving the Gaza people, and that is not true.
In fact, Hamas steals the food, and sometimes Kills palestinians who try to get it.
Hamas then sells the food to the starving Arabs, (Palestinians) to finance their continual "game of pretend to release all the Hostages".

Is very likely that Israel is going to completely destroy them now.......no more offers of surrender, because Hamas keeps killing 4 or 5 IDF solders day by day, and Israel's army is not large.
Israel is going to do something BIG and Hamas is going to be ended, and i hope that somehow those remaining hostages can be rescued as Hamas will never let them go.....never.

 

[GeneZ]

You just admitted Galatians is about tearing down legalistic divisions.
But your interpretation of Gal 6:16 revives the very thing Paul was destroying.

Because he had been destroying their pretense?

He wanted after to ease up on those legalistic Jews, and make it clear that he was not rejecting those Jews.

So, Paul, in kindness?
Paul, then, referred to these clods as ... "Upon the Israel of God."
That language they would relate to!

It was a signal directed to those Jews.
What Paul referred to them as (upon the Israel of God) was like Paul pouring reviving water over their battered soul (that he had just pounded into the dust) ...

They had been taking a beating from Paul before all.

.........

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Because he had been destroying their pretense?

He wanted after to ease up on those legalistic Jews, and make it clear that he was not rejecting those Jews.

So, Paul, in kindness?
Paul, then, referred to these clods as ... "Upon the Israel of God."
That language they would relate to!

It was a signal directed to those Jews.
What Paul referred to them as (upon the Israel of God) was like Paul pouring reviving water over their battered soul (that he had just pounded into the dust) ...

They had been taking a beating from Paul before all.

.........

Paul isn’t patting Judaizers on the head in Gal 6:16.
He just spent six chapters cursing them, dismantling their law, and telling them to cast out the slave woman.

“Israel of God” = all who are a new creation in Christ.
Not bloodline.
Not circumcision.
Not unrepentant Jews.

Anything else is Scofield fan fiction from the pit.

 

[Lizbeth]

Because he had been destroying their pretense?

He wanted after to ease up on those legalistic Jews, and make it clear that he was not rejecting those Jews.

So, Paul, in kindness?
Paul, then, referred to these clods as ... "Upon the Israel of God."
That language they would relate to!

It was a signal directed to those Jews.
What Paul referred to them as (upon the Israel of God) was like Paul pouring reviving water over their battered soul (that he had just pounded into the dust) ...

They had been taking a beating from Paul before all.

.........

Maybe to some extent. But dont' forget the Israel of God is a commonwealth, which by definition includes other nations (Gentiles) too. And I hope nobody here thinks in terms of Jewish people or Israel being clods. Jesus Himself said no one after tasting the old wine straightway desires the new, so I'm sure if Gentiles had been in Israel's shoes they wouldn't have done any better.....oh wait, Abraham was a "Gentile" anyhow wasn't he...? Hmmmm...... ;) See why God said there is no difference between Jew and Gentile? And that now we know no man after the flesh any longer? Suffice to say Yeshua is the saviour all people and God is the God of all (who come to Him).