The 666 mark will be a tattoo

[rockytopva]

Mobile payments have never been more popular. Article shows a credit card, phone, and watch and then goes on to state... There is a problem when so many readers only accept actual credit cards. Mobile payments may become more popular than credit cards after a while. It will take a long time before anyone can figure out what will happen. - Mobile Payments vs. Credit Card Payments-The 2024 Review

I tried last year to get my cell phone set up to eliminate my billfold. I quickly found out that only worked half of the time. All the readers are going to have to be upgraded to a single standard before I can do that.

 

[TribulationSigns]

You do not have a clue do you !

Your a marked man ! and you do not know it !

The Beast is Carnal Man ! you ! an abomination to God ! for all such do not abide in Christ Jesus ! One has to be Saved to understand the workings of Carnal Man in fact !

So it is all in relation to mans works in fact !

Their was a dude that got Marked ? for what ? rejecting God ! So God said not to kill this marked man, for God wanted him to repent and come back to God !
Then we also seen one dressed in a white sheet with a marker in hand, remember that ? was he was marking people ?

Wow… I have absolutely no idea what you’re even talking about. Somehow in your mind I’m the “Beast of Revelation 13” because I’m supposedly a “carnal man” and “marked”? That’s quite the creative imagination you’ve got there.

If you actually had Scripture to back this up instead of riddles and random Bible references thrown out of context, we could have a real conversation. But since you’ve made it your mission to accuse rather than reason, I’ll do us both a favor — I’m adding you to my ignore list where you can entertain others with your false doctrine and wild conspiracy preaching while I focus on people who actually care about truth.

 

[rockytopva]

Mod hat on ... Warning... You are not allowed to declare people as not caring about the truth for disagreeing over your interpretation of Revelation... Mod hat off...

 

[Davy]

Ah yes — here we go again. Every time someone sees a credit card, a smartphone, or a smartwatch, out comes the “Mark of the Beast!” alarm. Let’s be clear: Revelation 13 is not talking about Apple Pay, Google Pay, or the chip in your debit card. The “mark” is not a physical payment method — it’s a spiritual condition.

In Scripture, the “right hand” symbolizes what you do — your actions signify the will of the beast. And the “forehead” symbolizes what you think and believe — your agreement with the doctrine of the beast. The true mark is when a person works for (right hand) or agrees with (forehead) the lies, authority, and false doctrines of the Beast. That’s how you “buy and sell” the false doctrine in the spiritual sense — by trading in false teaching, promoting it, and living by it. Selah!

We still cannot rule out the likelyhood that Revelation 13:17 is indeed revealing that there might be some kind of literal mark, like a chip implant required to buy and sell when the that final beast of Revelation 13:1 is finalized with the false-Messiah literally in power over all nations. Did you know there are already volunteers that have accepted a chip implant?

The microchip implants that let you pay with your hand

You can now get a payment chip injected beneath your skin, turning you into a human bank card.

www.bbc.com

 

[TribulationSigns]

We still cannot rule out the likelyhood that Revelation 13:17 is indeed revealing that there might be some kind of literal mark, like a chip implant required to buy and sell when the that final beast of Revelation 13:1 is finalized with the false-Messiah literally in power over all nations.

That’s exactly the problem—people keep trying to make Revelation 13:17 about a gadget, chip, or barcode when the Bible is clearly dealing with spiritual buying and selling and worship. The mark isn’t about technology—it’s about who owns your mind (forehead) and your actions (hand). Duh! Think about it, if I get a chip on my LEFT hand, I won't lose my salvation. But if it get a chip on my RIGHT hand, I will lose salvation. This is not how God's Word is talking about!

Scripture interprets Scripture:

• Revelation 14:9–10 – The mark is tied to the buying and selling DOCTRINES of the beast, not owning a microchip in order ot buy or sell physical foods.
• Deuteronomy 6:6–8 – God’s commandments were to be as a sign on the hand and between the eyes (forehead)—symbolic of thinking and doing according to His Word.
• Revelation 13:16–17 – “Buy and sell” is spiritual language for trading in the truth for lies, not swiping a debit card or scanning a chip.

Yes, governments and companies already use chips and digital IDs—but the real danger is spiritual deception, not an RFID scanner. You could refuse a chip and still bear the mark if you worship the beast. Or you could take every chip in the world and still be safe if you are sealed by Christ and nothing in the world can take you out of His hand, John 10:28-30.

The enemy wants people distracted by tech conspiracies so they miss the actual mark—rejecting God’s truth in favor of the beast’s lies.

Did you know there are already volunteers that have accepted a chip implant?

Wow! I did not know that. Did they lose their salvation over the foods they purchased, or unlock their home door with the chips already? This is how stupid carnal speculations are.

 

[MatthewG]

It was a blood bath with 1,000,000 million people slaughtered, starved and killed and pillaged and burned to the ground in 70Ad.


But people say Jesus is a liar and the temple didn’t mean anything with its cessation.

Jesus was to come back during this time…

But people say where is the proof?

Show us, just like the Pharisees in that day and age….

Some people are mentally ill, some people are autistic, some people have been religiously abused and hold on to traditions.:.



I just say this to say this, whatever you believe no one can make the decision for you.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Mod hat on ... Warning... You are not allowed to declare people as not caring about the truth for disagreeing over your interpretation of Revelation... Mod hat off...

God hat on...

Jer 5:14
(14) Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.

God hat off...

 

[Davy]

That’s exactly the problem—people keep trying to make Revelation 13:17 about a gadget, chip, or barcode when the Bible is clearly dealing with spiritual buying and selling and worship. The mark isn’t about technology—it’s about who owns your mind (forehead) and your actions (hand). Duh! Think about it, if I get a chip on my LEFT hand, I won't lose my salvation. But if it get a chip on my RIGHT hand, I will lose salvation. This is not how God's Word is talking about!

I well understand your point, and I partially agree. What I do not agree with is that your ruling out the possibility of some kind of chip being required to literally buy and sell, when they have already developed it, and volunteers have already taken it. That still does not omit the 'spiritual' concept of the mark you are speaking of. To volunteer to take the chip means being ready to bow to the New World Order system, so that does point to deception by the 'spiritual' concept of the Rev.13 mark of the beast.

 

[Davy]

Wow! I did not know that. Did they lose their salvation over the foods they purchased, or unlock their home door with the chips already? This is how stupid carnal speculations are.

The fact... that some have already volunteered to take the micro-chip implant to buy and sell is not a carnal speculation. You might call BBC and get more information on the facts of that article if you don't believe it.

 

[Davy]

That’s exactly the problem—people keep trying to make Revelation 13:17 about a gadget, chip, or barcode when the Bible is clearly dealing with spiritual buying and selling and worship. The mark isn’t about technology—it’s about who owns your mind (forehead) and your actions (hand). Duh! Think about it, if I get a chip on my LEFT hand, I won't lose my salvation. But if it get a chip on my RIGHT hand, I will lose salvation. This is not how God's Word is talking about!

Scripture interprets Scripture:

• Revelation 14:9–10 – The mark is tied to the buying and selling DOCTRINES of the beast, not owning a microchip in order ot buy or sell physical foods.
• Deuteronomy 6:6–8 – God’s commandments were to be as a sign on the hand and between the eyes (forehead)—symbolic of thinking and doing according to His Word.
• Revelation 13:16–17 – “Buy and sell” is spiritual language for trading in the truth for lies, not swiping a debit card or scanning a chip.

Yes, governments and companies already use chips and digital IDs—but the real danger is spiritual deception, not an RFID scanner. You could refuse a chip and still bear the mark if you worship the beast. Or you could take every chip in the world and still be safe if you are sealed by Christ and nothing in the world can take you out of His hand, John 10:28-30.

The enemy wants people distracted by tech conspiracies so they miss the actual mark—rejecting God’s truth in favor of the beast’s lies.



Wow! I did not know that. Did they lose their salvation over the foods they purchased, or unlock their home door with the chips already? This is how stupid carnal speculations are.

It might be a good idea to keep a small amount of silver to trade with if the chip actually becomes a requirement. Otherwise, we will have to rely on trade or someone else who has taken the chip for buying and selling, because Christ's elect are not going to take the chip. That will be one of the ways that we will be identified and delivered up and be persecuted for Christ's sake. And Lord Jesus told us that in that 'hour' to not premeditate what we will say, but speak what The Holy Spirit gives us to say (Mark 13).

 

[TribulationSigns]

What I do not agree with is that your ruling out the possibility of some kind of chip being required to literally buy and sell, when they have already developed it, and volunteers have already taken it.

LOL. I’m not denying that chips are being developed to make buying or selling easier, or that some companies have volunteers testing their programs. But let’s be clear—THIS IS NOT what the Word of God is talking about. Period.

That still does not omit the 'spiritual' concept of the mark you are speaking of. To volunteer to take the chip means being ready to bow to the New World Order system, so that does point to deception by the 'spiritual' concept of the Rev.13 mark of the beast.

Sigh… People like you have been brainwashed by carnal false doctrine on the mark of the beast. Think about it carefully—do you honestly believe that buying a hot dog and a cup of Slurpee at 7‑Eleven with a chip is the same as “bowing” to the so‑called New World Order, to the point you could lose your salvation when you’ve already been secured by Christ's grace?

Absolute nonsense.

 

[Davy]

LOL. I’m not denying that chips are being developed to make buying or selling easier, or that some companies have volunteers testing their programs. But let’s be clear—THIS IS NOT what the Word of God is talking about. Period.



Sigh… People like you have been brainwashed by carnal false doctrine on the mark of the beast. Think about it carefully—do you honestly believe that buying a hot dog and a cup of Slurpee at 7‑Eleven with a chip is the same as “bowing” to the so‑called New World Order, to the point you could lose your salvation when you’ve already been secured by Christ's grace?

Absolute nonsense.

Your laughing at what has already been literally... revealed about the implants only shows your desperation. You are not helping brethren by doing that.

 

[MatthewG]

LOL. I’m not denying that chips are being developed to make buying or selling easier, or that some companies have volunteers testing their programs. But let’s be clear—THIS IS NOT what the Word of God is talking about. Period.



Sigh… People like you have been brainwashed by carnal false doctrine on the mark of the beast. Think about it carefully—do you honestly believe that buying a hot dog and a cup of Slurpee at 7‑Eleven with a chip is the same as “bowing” to the so‑called New World Order, to the point you could lose your salvation when you’ve already been secured by Christ's grace?

Absolute nonsense.

I use to be like you and love to fight about these things, but its just all flesh buddy.

Thats all flesh. Anyone who loves to go back and forth with this stuff just loves to "I AM RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG."


Its flesh nothing benefical all facade and lying to oneself.

 

[Davy]

LOL. I’m not denying that chips are being developed to make buying or selling easier, or that some companies have volunteers testing their programs. But let’s be clear—THIS IS NOT what the Word of God is talking about. Period.

I already said that I agreed with the mark being related to spiritual deception, it has to be in order for one to be deceived into taking an implant for buying or selling.

Yet you are NOT ALLOWED to try and eliminate the Revelation 13:17 subject verse...

Rev 13:17
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
KJV

Thus you are not... laughing and mocking me, you are laughing and mocking Christ Jesus by trying change that above Bible Scripture.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Your laughing at what has already been literally... revealed about the implants only shows your desperation. You are not helping brethren by doing that.

No—I’m laughing at the false speculation that a literal chip is what God considers the mark of the beast. It’s not. The real mark of the beast is already at work inside the church, where professing Christians are buying and selling the false doctrines of false prophets and false christs (the beast), pressuring people to believe a lie—exactly as God said would happen.

But instead of addressing that reality, you’re more concerned with BBC reports and treat it as an interpretation of God about the possibility of a literal chip somehow destroying people’s spiritual destiny.

So, yes, I am helping brethren with a warning against false carnal doctrine of the mark of the beast. Selah!

 

[Davy]

No—I’m laughing at the false speculation that a literal chip is what God considers the mark of the beast. It’s not. The real mark of the beast is already at work inside the church, where professing Christians are buying and selling the false doctrines of false prophets and false christs (the beast), pressuring people to believe a lie—exactly as God said would happen.

But instead of addressing that reality, you’re more concerned with BBC reports and treat it as an interpretation of God about the possibility of a literal chip somehow destroying people’s spiritual destiny.

So, yes, I am helping brethren with a warning against false carnal doctrine of the mark of the beast. Selah!

I'm a realist when it comes to God's written Word, which means when God's Word is pointing to literal matter, that is what it means, and when it is pointing spiritual matters that is what it means. The buying and selling of Rev.13:17 is a literal matter, but the idea of the receiving of the mark of the beast is a spiritual matter, and is actually the part you are talking about.

You apparently have yet to really understand God's Ezekiel 28 parable using the "king of Tyrus" as a TYPE for what the devil did back in the old world when he first rebelled in coveting God's Throne. It also involved the traffic of commerce.

 

[TribulationSigns]

I already said that I agreed with the mark being related to spiritual deception

Good start... but...

, it has to be in order for one to be deceived into taking an implant for buying or selling.

This is not how it works. God has already defined what the right hand and forehead signify. He is not talking about your right hand. He is talking about doing the WILL of the beast.

Give me a show you an example of the right hand:

In the Old Testament, when a father will was that his son be blessed, he would signify this by laying his "right hand" upon him. Or when Jesus ascended to the throne of God, He was seated at the "right hand" of God. In these illustrations of the hand, God is giving us a spiritual image of the will. For example, it is the will and purprose of the father that his son will be blessed. Or it is the will of God that Christ sits upon the throne of God. Even today, if you were to say of a friend, that he was your "right hand man," immediately all would understand what you meant. Because it's an illustration of being able to depend upon him. For example, he works like my own right hand, or he does "my will" as if by my own hand.

Therefore the right hand is an idiom for "will and power." Thus when we read Satan's mark on their right hand, it signifies Satan uses these deceived men as his "main hand" or as his power to get his will done in God's congregation once he is loosed from the bottomless pit. He doesn't pop up as a supernatural man in Europe; the spirit of Satan manifests itself in "MAN" - the false prophets and christs.

2nd Corinthians 11:13-15

• For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
• And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
• Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

They do his bidding as if it were by his own right hand. It means they are in servitude to him, are under his authority, and do his will by spreading his false doctrines in the church. Spiritually, they are being owned by him. This is what the mark on their right hand signifies!

Selah! The so-called chips don't qualify!

Yet you are NOT ALLOWED to try and eliminate the Revelation 13:17 subject verse...

Rev 13:17
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
KJV

Thus you are not... laughing and mocking me, you are laughing and mocking Christ Jesus by trying change that above Bible Scripture.

You lack spiritual discernment about what “buying and selling” truly means. People must first receive the mark on the right hand (doing Satan's will) or on the forehead (their mind—agreement with Satan) before they can “buy or sell” the false doctrine of the false prophets and false christs. In other words, they are being deceived into believing a lie, and they are helping Satan spread his doctrine to others in the congregation who have not yet been sealed.

Only the chosen Elect will refuse the mark of the beast, because they are already belong to Christ and secured before Beast is loosed from the bottomless pit. They will reject the false doctrine they hear, even though they will eventually be overcome by the professed christians to the point that their faithful testimony has been silenced (killed).

 

[soberxp]

Huh? What are you babbling about? Read the Scripture:

Rev 13:17-18
(17) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
(18) Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

So tell me, how do you count that single number: 666 in order to buy or sell. Buy or sell what? You just made some wild speculation without Scripture support at all as if you lacks wisdom of Christ!

When Solomon received the wisdom of God, a woman wanted to receive the wisdom of God with 666. 666 represented man, And offered 666 in exchange for the wisdom of God.

 

[TribulationSigns]

I'm a realist when it comes to God's written Word, which means when God's Word is pointing to literal matter, that is what it means, and when it is pointing spiritual matters that is what it means. The buying and selling of Rev.13:17 is a literal matter, but the idea of the receiving of the mark of the beast is a spiritual matter, and is actually the part you are talking about.

Not correct. But go ahead and have fun with "literal matter" theories you heard in the YouTube while totally miss the spiritual mark taking place in the fallen church. The Lord judges and I am comfortable with it.

You apparently have yet to really understand God's Ezekiel 28 parable using the "king of Tyrus" as a TYPE for what the devil did back in the old world when he first rebelled in coveting God's Throne. It also involved the traffic of commerce.

As for the Ezekiel reference, again, it is the very same portrait of God condemning man for exalting himself to sit and rule "as if" he were God:

Ezekiel 28:2

• "Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:"

As in Isaiah 14, this passage refers to a man, represented by the Prince of Tyrus, and it is also used as a Spiritual allegory or portrait of sinful man as he rules in the congregation of God, and how God ultimately brings judgment upon him for his rebellion in usurping the role of God. Nothing in Ezekiel 28 regarding the garden of Eden is talking about "traffic of commerce." Do you even know who is covering cherub from the midst of the stones of fire? But this is a different subject that has nothing to do with the mark fo the beast.

 

[TribulationSigns]

When Solomon received the wisdom of God, a woman wanted to receive the wisdom of God with 666. 666 represented man.

No, you need the wisdom of God to COUNT the number 666 itself. How do you do that?

, And offered 666 in exchange for the wisdom of God.

Exchange 666 for wisdom? You’ve got to be kidding. I don’t read God’s instructions in Revelation 13 that way at all.