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Hitler taught the same basic Theology.
He hated Jews also, but didnt try to hide behind some "Scofield rant".
Hitler went so far as to create a "revised" Bible that actually eliminated all verses from the Old and New Testaments that defined the Jews as God's Chosen.
He just removed everything "jew" or "jewish" out of the Bible as much as possible.

You should post a photo of your copy of this bible. @The Gospel of Christ .
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Let’s get this straight:


I don’t hate Jews, I don’t hate anyone.
But I do hate doctrines that deny the Cross, distort the Gospel, and replace the Body of Christ with a bloodline-based idol.

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.”
(Gal. 3:29)
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly.” (Rom. 2:28–29)
“There is neither Jew nor Greek… you are all one in Christ Jesus.” (Gal. 3:28)

You can weaponize Hitler analogies all day but here’s the truth:

Hitler deleted scripture to serve his race-based tyranny.
Scofield rewrote interpretation to serve his Zionist theology.

Both replaced Christ with blood and nation.
Both corrupted the Word of God to serve a political agenda.
One with scissors.
The other with 'footnotes'.

So no—I don’t own Hitler’s Bible.
And I don’t preach from Scofield’s either.

I preach from the one where the veil was torn,
where Christ is the true Seed,
and where salvation is not inherited by genetics—
but given by grace through faith, to all who are born again.
 
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It's the old Scofield two-step.
You can't refute the Word of God, so now you're acting like you're the gatekeeper of dispensations?

Tongues ceased.
Not because of a Scofield-era dispensation chart,
but because Paul said they would. (1 Cor. 13:8–10)

I don’t need to believe in Scofield’s cartoon timeline to affirm what the actual apostles taught.
You didn’t invent “things changing with time,” GeneZ... God did.
It’s called progressive revelation, not dispensational schizophrenia.

There’s a difference between the Word rightly divided,
and the Bible butchered into Scofield-friendly puzzle pieces
to make room for political Zionism, Rothschild real estate deals, prophecy charts,
and dispensational fan fiction dressed up as divine revelation.

You said: “That was a different dispensation.”
Then congratulations, you just admitted that the old things passed awayincluding national Israel as the centerpiece of God’s covenant plan.

So pick a lane:
You can’t call it a “different dispensation” when tongues cease…
…then refuse to accept the finality of the Cross, the Church, and the tearing of the veil. Oops!

Let’s narrow it down to one mind, as you requested:

“If you are Christ’s, you are Abraham’s seed.” (Gal. 3:29)
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free... you are all one in Christ.” (Gal. 3:28)
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly, by the Spirit.” (Rom. 2:28–29)
“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” (Rom. 9:6)
“The Church is the Israel of God.” (Gal. 6:16)

That's the mind of Christ.
And if you're still confused, that’s not a debate problem—
that’s a discipleship problem.

So no, I don't need Scofield's maps or your "dispensation decoder ring."
I’ve got the Gospel, the Spirit, and the apostles.
You're the one out here defending footnotes like they came down from Sinai.

Now unless you can refute Paul, James, and Jesus Himself,
you’re not "defending the truth", you’re just drawing prophecy charts in the sand
before the Lion of Judah crushes them underfoot.

You want one mind?
Let it be the mind of Christ
not Scofield’s pipe smoke in a seminary suit.
Eat your heart out...... (if you have one)

After the Rapture.
When the Church is in Heaven, being evaluated by the Lord to see who will qualify to reign with Him?...

Jews who remain alive on earth will be called by God to be once more his representative people.
144,000 young Jewish men, from all the tribes, will be called - and sanctified, for the Lord's service.


Eat your heart out... For only an idiot would try to argue against the following,.

Revelation 7:1-8

7 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
Now...​
Feel free to prove yourself to be a very determined apostate.​
 

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Let’s get this straight:


I don’t hate Jews, I don’t hate anyone.
But I do hate doctrines that deny the Cross, distort the Gospel, and replace the Body of Christ with a bloodline-based idol.

That is just your rationalization to clean your hands with blood on them.

This much: You hate only Jews who are not in the body of Christ.

God is my witness.

You hate Jews so much, you keep seeking materials to prove God is a liar concerning His promises for the future of the Jewish people.
 

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Let’s get this straight:


I don’t hate Jews, I don’t hate anyone.
But I do hate doctrines that deny the Cross,

You teacn a rancid false theology that pretends that Jews in Israel are not "Israel."
What could be more anti-semitic, that is cloaked as "theology"?
So, that is Jew Hatred, guised as false "endtime" "theology".
Thats a fact.
Hitler had the same basic theology., including a bible that tried to get rid of Jews, altogether.
 

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Eat your heart out...... (if you have one)

After the Rapture.
When the Church is in Heaven, being evaluated by the Lord to see who will qualify to reign with Him?...

Jews who remain alive on earth will be called by God to be once more his representative people.
144,000 young Jewish men, from all the tribes, will be called - and sanctified, for the Lord's service.


Eat your heart out... For only an idiot would try to argue against the following,.

Revelation 7:1-8

7 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
Now...​
Feel free to prove yourself to be a very determined apostate.​


Revelation 7 doesn’t prove your theology, it exposes it.

The 144,000 is symbolic of the full number of God’s people, not a future army of ethnic Jews saved after a rapture Paul never taught. The very next verse shows a multitude from every nation, standing before the Lamb.

The tribes you quoted don’t even match historical Israel—Dan is missing, Ephraim is renamed, and the records were destroyed in 70 AD.
Your literalism collapses under its own weight.

The Church is Israel now.


“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” (Gal. 3:29)
“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” (Rom. 9:6)
“There is neither Jew nor Greek… you are all one in Christ.” (Gal. 3:28)

What you’re defending isn’t scripture, it’s Scofield.

And unless you can refute Paul, James, and Christ Himself,
you’re not proclaiming truth.
You’re preaching a footnote.
 

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The Church is Israel now.

= In your pipe dreams.

Here is the thing, you teach a anti-semetic theology, that pretends its "christian".
What can be more "of the devil"?

Even you can realize that the Bible prophecied that Jews would return to Israel as one of the final "signs", and it has happened for the last nearly 60 yrs.
Indisputable.
Even something like you can realize that ISRAEL is being attacked by not just Islam, but by the world wide media.
The entire world is against the JEWS in ISRAEL because they are ISRAEL.
"sign of the times"......"bible prophecy"

Hello DUH !

So, if the Jews in Israel were not ISRAEL, then this would not be the case.
Its happening right before your eyes, for nearly 60 yrs.
 

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Revelation 7 doesn’t prove your theology, it exposes it.

The 144,000 is symbolic of the full number of God’s people, not a future army of ethnic Jews saved after a rapture Paul never taught. The very next verse shows a multitude from every nation, standing before the Lamb.

The tribes you quoted don’t even match historical Israel—Dan is missing, Ephraim is renamed, and the records were destroyed in 70 AD.
Your literalism collapses under its own weight.

The Church is Israel now.


“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” (Gal. 3:29)
“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” (Rom. 9:6)
“There is neither Jew nor Greek… you are all one in Christ.” (Gal. 3:28)

What you’re defending isn’t scripture, it’s Scofield.

And unless you can refute Paul, James, and Christ Himself,
you’re not proclaiming truth.
You’re preaching a footnote.

You have everything so twisted that it would not be necessary to untwist it.

Why?
It would not help anyone if I did that.

Why?
Because most Christians already know the truth, and can easily see that you are obviously distorted in your hateful thinking.
 

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= In your pipe dreams.

Here is the thing, you teach a anti-semetic theology, that pretends its "christian".
What can be more "of the devil"?

Even you can realize that the Bible prophecied that Jews would return to Israel as one of the final "signs", and it has happened for the last nearly 60 yrs.
Indisputable.
Even something like you can realize that ISRAEL is being attacked by not just Islam, but by the world wide media.
The entire world is against the JEWS in ISRAEL because they are ISRAEL.
"sign of the times"......"bible prophecy"

Hello DUH !

So, if the Jews in Israel were not ISRAEL, then this would not be the case.
Its happening right before your eyes, for nearly 60 yrs.

The haters are simply following their marching orders.
Why the wish to eliminate Jews from God's future plan for mankind?

Why?????
Satan would be so relieved if all Jews were GONE!

Why?

Jesus promised that when He returns to set up His Kingdom on earth, that He will seat Himself on the Throne of David in Jerusalem.
And...
Reign over Jews alive on earth at that time.

Now, what would happen if all Jews were gone?
Satan would walk free of the Lake of Fire.

Why's that?
Jesus lied!
He failed to do as He promised for the Jews.

His judgment would be proven corrupt!
And?
The Lord's sentence for Satan must be thrown out of court!

Why did we see Hitler in a frenzy to round up Jews, before all else, when he invaded Poland?
Kill! Kill! Kill! Save Satan!

Satan is a desperately wicked unscrupulous coward!
He would do anything to escape God's justice!

That is why we find anti-Semitic teachers today.
They are a Satanic attempt to get Christians (who do know proper Biblical eschatology) to stop granting haven to Jews!

Grace and peace!
 

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= In your pipe dreams.

Here is the thing, you teach a anti-semetic theology, that pretends its "christian".
What can be more "of the devil"?

Even you can realize that the Bible prophecied that Jews would return to Israel as one of the final "signs", and it has happened for the last nearly 60 yrs.
Indisputable.
Even something like you can realize that ISRAEL is being attacked by not just Islam, but by the world wide media.
The entire world is against the JEWS in ISRAEL because they are ISRAEL.
"sign of the times"......"bible prophecy"

Hello DUH !

So, if the Jews in Israel were not ISRAEL, then this would not be the case.
Its happening right before your eyes, for nearly 60 yrs.


You just proved my point again, you're preaching headlines, not the Gospel.

You claim the modern nation-state of Israel is the "fulfillment of prophecy", but Paul said:

“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” (Rom. 9:6)

The New Testament never pointed to a political return to dirt.
It pointed to a spiritual return to Christ.

You say I’m "antisemitic" for preaching what Paul preached.
Paul was a Jew.
Christ was a Jew.
They both said the covenant is fulfilled in Him, not in a flag.

So no; I'm not anti-Jew.
I'm anti-false doctrine, whether it’s preached from a pulpit or wrapped in a Star of Rephan..
You're not defending the faith.
You're just spiritualizing a news cycle and calling it theology.

And unless you can refute Galatians 3, Romans 2, Romans 9, and Hebrews 8,
your entire theology is a Scofield footnote duct-taped to a UN map—
parading as prophecy, but leading souls to hell with a flag in their hands and Christ nowhere in sight.
 
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“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” (Rom. 9:6)
Just as Esau was not Israel....
So what?

That does nothing to make the point you keep wishing to make.

Your scriptural slight of hand only impresses those who are scripturally naïve.

In the future:

The Lord's Homeland Security is going to pull you in after you have served God's purpose in His allowing you to run free.
Just like how the Lord let Pharaoh run free for a while to accomplish God's purpose.
 

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Just as Esau was not Israel....
So what?

That does nothing to make the point you keep wishing to make.

Your scriptural slight of hand only impresses those who are scripturally naïve.

In the future:

The Lord's Homeland Security is going to pull you in after you have served God's purpose in His allowing you to run free.
Just like how the Lord let Pharaoh run free for a while to accomplish God's purpose.

Thanks for confirming again that you can’t refute the verseonly dismiss it.

“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” (Rom. 9:6)

You said “So what?”
That’s not exegesis, that’s evasion.
Esau’s rejection proves Paul’s point: that physical descent never guaranteed covenant inclusion.
But now you're scrambling, throwing Pharaoh references like it helps.

You’re not Moses in this story.
You're the one demanding signs while ignoring the Word already spoken.

You talk like you're God's mouthpiece, but you can't even respond to Paul without hand-waving and threats.
Until you can refute Romans 9, Galatians 3, and Hebrews 8 with scripture—not Scofield, not fear-mongering—
you’re not preaching truth.

You're playing prophet in a fantasy built on maps and margins.

The Gospel isn’t geopolitical.
The Kingdom of God is not of this world.
And your “Lord’s Homeland Security” sounds more like a dispensational fever dream than anything Jesus ever taught.

Repent, before the real King returns,
and asks why you kept waving a flag where His cross was supposed to be.
 
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Thanks for confirming again that you can’t refute the verseonly dismiss it.

“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” (Rom. 9:6)

You said “So what?”
That’s not exegesis, that’s evasion.
Esau’s rejection proves Paul’s point: that physical descent never guaranteed covenant inclusion.
But now you're scrambling, throwing Pharaoh references like it helps.

You’re not Moses in this story.
You're the one demanding signs while ignoring the Word already spoken.

You talk like you're God's mouthpiece, but you can't even respond to Paul without hand-waving and threats.
Until you can refute Romans 9, Galatians 3, and Hebrews 8 with scripture—not Scofield, not fear-mongering—
you’re not preaching truth.

You're playing prophet in a fantasy built on maps and margins.

The Gospel isn’t geopolitical.
The Kingdom of God is not of this world.
And your “Lord’s Homeland Security” sounds more like a dispensational fever dream than anything Jesus ever taught.

Repent, before the real King returns,
and asks why you kept waving a flag where His cross was supposed to be.
Change your name.
It is blasphemy to claim it.

You only gaslight.
 

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I seen my mate roll out such Dispensation out all the way down his drive way, with it all layed out ! he was only swallowing it all, becauser he was only learning it ?
You have to learn This !
He admitted to me that he did not know, but only had faith in the people who peddled such to him was right ! as he had only been a Christian for say 15 years. So he had left it up to them to lead him !

When he first came to me he was wanting to kill himself. he walked by my house and started talking about the Bible, and to me it was like what the hell are you saying ? half of his claims were Biblical but not on track ? so when on a subject he was in fact on another page, so one could say yes on a point on a subject ? but No ! he is coming from a different angle most of the time ?

He lover to dictate ! and use standover type tactics, that he was totaly right. this is the way you must think ?
To me I never use such tactics, but let one work it out for themselves.
I have found people who make demands like that are always Godless people in fact ! when they peddle something, they use deceptive methods. but I am awake to all such methods in my working life, so I am not a simpleton to push over.
If one tryes to play me, that is their mistake, because I can catch them out ! I have developed a nose for such over the years, soon as cunning comes into play, I pick up on such.

But old mate is not truly born again in fact ! for clearly he is Lost !
He talkes about that he is against works ? but he is only a doteard in carnal idiot religious works in fact ! and is on the same track as any Atheist ignoramus.
It's only that he would not lift even a pen to do a thing = his works, that he is babbling on about.
But Oh look at the works of Man is doing ! is idolised as if it's Gods works ? I can see such is a Mans works clearly ! but not him.

Not to mention if you turn around and ask any atheist idiot what they think about such ? old mate is in agreement with the clearly deluded.
If you find yourself agreeing with a Atheist on such matters as God, you should take a good look at yourself.

I have also learnt from him tho.
Who says that you canot learn from fools. for I know were he is coming from now. I know where he is at and his Mob.
They Idolist the so called Jews ? but they don't truly, for such is just a means to an ends for them in fact ! and other denominations are on much the same path.
Oh They sound good ? but are Wolves in Sheeps clothing.
But I am not surprised at all, because Jesus said this world is full of deceptions and delusions !
Not to mention gutless Dupes, That's why Jesus was attack ! for such people were Slaves to Mans works regardless religious or not, that's the pickel !
One Growes in Christ Jesus ! outside of that one is only a Titch.
May I ask?
Who were you referring to?

He admitted to me that he did not know, but only had faith in the people who peddled such to him was right ! as he had only been a Christian for say 15 years. So he had left it up to them to lead him !

Grace and peace ...........
 

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Let me be clear—I’m not here to debate who’s right or wrong. In truth, we’ve all missed the point.

God’s promise was never about earthly land—the so-called ‘Promised Land’ flowing with milk and honey. It was always a metaphor for the Gospel brought by Jesus Christ. Whether Israel or the Jewish people are scattered across the earth, the true Promised Land exists wherever hearts believe in Christ’s Gospel and submit to God’s Word.

Trust me, brothers and sisters—stop wasting your spirit on territorial disputes. Only fools remain shackled to the past, and the past represents the death found in the Law. The future? That’s where the Law finds its life.
 

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Revelation 7 doesn’t prove your theology, it exposes it.

The 144,000 is symbolic of the full number of God’s people, not a future army of ethnic Jews saved after a rapture Paul never taught. The very next verse shows a multitude from every nation, standing before the Lamb.

The tribes you quoted don’t even match historical Israel—Dan is missing, Ephraim is renamed, and the records were destroyed in 70 AD.
Your literalism collapses under its own weight.

The Church is Israel now.


“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” (Gal. 3:29)
“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” (Rom. 9:6)
“There is neither Jew nor Greek… you are all one in Christ.” (Gal. 3:28)

What you’re defending isn’t scripture, it’s Scofield.

And unless you can refute Paul, James, and Christ Himself,
you’re not proclaiming truth.
You’re preaching a footnote.
Even if we take it literally, 144,000 from each tribe still only represents a remnant, not the whole nation of Israel.

But I don't believe it is literal but symbolic.......it's a representation of the inhabitants of New Jerusalem, the Israel of God...aka the one new man church. 12 x 12 - 144

Rev 21:10-17

And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
 

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Let me be clear—I’m not here to debate who’s right or wrong. In truth, we’ve all missed the point.

God’s promise was never about earthly land—the so-called ‘Promised Land’ flowing with milk and honey. It was always a metaphor for the Gospel brought by Jesus Christ. Whether Israel or the Jewish people are scattered across the earth, the true Promised Land exists wherever hearts believe in Christ’s Gospel and submit to God’s Word.

Trust me, brothers and sisters—stop wasting your spirit on territorial disputes. Only fools remain shackled to the past, and the past represents the death found in the Law. The future? That’s where the Law finds its life.

You're trying to make 'nice- nice' for the kiddies to settle down?
Everything is simply symbolic and a metaphoric?

The Jews were promised a kingdom on earth with the Messiah sitting on his throne in Jerusalem!
That will be the Millennium!

The Church has our home in Heaven!
We will commute to earth to reign with Christ!

This is an example of why we are to fight the good fight!
 

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Ye cannot LOVE GOD and reject CHRIST .

Yes, men CAN Love God and…expounding;


* Heartfully Believe IN God and Gods Messiah…
Yes…
This person IS “prepared” to BE Soul saved, After his Body (mortally) Dies, Raised IN a glorified Body, by God, First Resurrection.

* Heartfully Believe IN God and Gods Messiah IS Christ…
Yes…
This person IS “prepared” to BE Soul saved, After his Body (mortally) Dies, Raised IN a glorified Body, by God, First Resurrection.

* Heartfully Believe IN God and Gods Prophet (ie. sent by God) IS Jesus…
Yes.
This person IS “prepared” to BE Soul saved, After his Body (mortally) Dies, Raised IN a glorified Body, by God, First Resurrection.

*Heartfully Believe IN God and Gods Prophet Jesus IS the Messiah / Christ…
Yes.
This person IS “prepared” to BE Soul saved, After his Body (mortally) Dies, Raised IN a glorified Body, by God, First Resurrection.


* Heartfully Believe IN God and Gods Messiah IS Christ the Lord…
AND Call out TO the Lord Jesus
AND Confess THAT true Heartful Belief…
Yes…
This person IS “Accounted”…
* Gods Book of Life…existing before mankind and not subject to blotting out.
* Lambs Book of Life…name of Person entered…and not subject to blotting out.
* This person…Once and forever Forgiven For having Not Believed AND his Bodily Sin “covered”. ( with Gods Light, that his “Forgiven” SIN “of prior unbelief, can be Seen no more or remembered.” )
* This persons “crucified dead cleansed body” IS Sanctified ( ie. set aside, divided / separated from all “UN-sanctified” dead bodies.)
* This person receives a heart Circumcision.
* This person receives a New Heart.
* This person receives the Seed of God.
* This person receives the Spirit of God.
This Person receives Gods Word to Dwell IN his new spirit, in his new Heart.
* This person IS Spiritually “accounted” bodily dead with Jesus’ Body.
* This person IS “while he Remains physically Alive”… (he IS accounted “a new creature; he is MADE and accounted soul SAV-ED and spirit BORN AGAIN, he Spiritually Lives “IN” Christ Jesus’ Risen Body… called “IN Christ”.)
* This mans Crucified Body, (IN Christ…living or mortally dead) waits for his Redemption By CHRIST the Lord Jesus, called Rapture.


Rapture candidates…
Spiritual Crucifixion… soul saved before mortal death, raised up by the Lord Jesus.

First Resurrection candidates…
soul saved after mortal death, raised up by God.

Glory to God,
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Taken

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The Jews were promised a kingdom on earth with the Messiah sitting on his throne in Jerusalem!
That will be the Millennium!

The Church has our home in Heaven!
We will commute to earth to reign with Christ!

This is an example of why we are to fight the good fight!

Amen!
 

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When Jesus returns after the Tribulation has ended...

As the Shepherd of the Jewish people scattered all over the earth (scattered to protect them from being wiped out by the Antichrist).

He will give out a whistle like a shepherd did to gather his flock, and the Jews will all regather to Israel!!!!!!!

Zechariah 10:8

When I whistle to them, they will come running, for I have redeemed them.
From the few who are left, they will grow as numerous as they were before.

Stick with the Word!

Don't let that loud mouth apostate browbeat you into submission with his machine gun splattering of verses that are not pertaining to his desired goal of dragging you away from gaining understanding!

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@GeneZ

I don't see any connection between what you're saying and what you're saying, just as you don't see what I'm saying, There is no debate or communication between us. Whether you believe it or not has nothing to do with me.
I don't want to compare God's wisdom with ignorance.