WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

[nedsk]

You quoted it.

Amen, very simple -- only complicated for those who only go as far as man trying to save them in water.

Either God has come to the individual and gave His same Spirit of mind as He did in Jesus to be of the same mind anointed of God, or He has not, saving the individual from their own ways for salvation to adhere to His and walk as He walks in it, perfect even as your Farther in heaven is perfect. That is Gods salvation. The Father in you and you in the Father as one. John 17. Your godhead body, the head, mind, of your body.

Again that's not me saying it it's me re-stating it. That's not the same thing.

God has come in the water of baptism.

1 Peter 3:21

This water prefigured baptism which now saves you. It does so not by the washing away of dirt from the body but by the pledge of a good conscience given to God through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

 

[Gary Mac]

God does the baptizing, of course.
What good would it be IF man did the dipping?
It would mean nothing.

Noting at all.

Jesus said to baptize....not a man.
John baptized for the forgiveness of sins...to prepare the way of the Lord.
§To prepare the hearts of those that wanted to repent.

Jesus prepared us by who he said he was in God and what we would be if we have the same from God as he received from Him, as in John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

The only thing that Jesus pushed was for us to have in us the very same as he had in himself from God Himself who is the only one who can give it to us.

What do you mean "when God Himself gave Him (Jesus) a new understanding for who God is"...
Isn't Jesus God?
He needed a NEW understanding of God?

Jesus was God? If Jesus was God who do you say this is whom Jesus spoke of when he said this of himself and his God who sent him?

Tell us plainly who it was Jesus obeyed and prayed to, without editing his words with ones own understanding for what you might believe and Jesus actually said of himself and his God who sent him!

John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 12:44-45. who believes in me, does not believe in me but in Him who sent me. He who sees me sees Him who sent me.

John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 17:2-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come withj observation, it is withn you

John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

John 14:16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Matt 11:25. At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one.

Matthew 3.16-17
16After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him,
17and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased.”

As a dove? Actually like a dove, as gentle as a dove. God is not a dove.

All who has received that same Spirit of God knows what Jesus learned from God Himself and how He comes to reside in man. The kingdom of God does not come with observation, not as a dove, it is with you. Luke 17:20-21.

And...
If Jesus instructed the Apostles to baptize...
HOW is that man trying to control by law??

Jesus didnt say go and make disciples according to your opinions or beliefs for a god, he said go and live it, be that example to others that he was to others by Gods same Spirit of mind be your own, anointed of Him. Jesus example was if you cant believe that what I say, believe that what I do, we are to be the very same witness of God as he was.

I agree.
But you haven't yet replied as to WHY Jesus commanded that nations be taught and baptized.

There is only one baptism from God, the is the one Jesus preached. Let the Father be in you and you be in Him as one.

Agreed.
I do want to say that if we profess to be Christian...and others know it...then it's a good idea to ACT like a Christian.
Jesus said to light our light shine to bring glory to God.

It isnt a matter at all to act like a christian, it is a matter of being anointed of the same God as Jesus was anointed of and in that it become an automatic, it become who we are not what we try and act to be only because some laws says we must. It is who I am not what I am.

More to be said about this

 

[Gary Mac]

Agreed.

Pride is the root of all sin.
Egoism comes in a close second.
We, at the least, need to be aware of this and discourage it in ourselves.

Pride will keep one chained to a belief, and beliefs are not real only speculations. The only truth comes from God Himself come to you and open in you the very same as He did in Jesus in Matt 3:16 by the Spirit that He is, Adam learned this same truth in Gen 3:22. Abraham learns this truth by the same Spirit of God, Moses learned this truth by that same Spirit, Mary, 120 in an upper room, all learned that same truth by the same Spirit as Jesus learned of. And all today who has seen Him as He really is as these did, become like Him instead of some beliefs about Him. 1 John 3:2. When ye see Him as He is ye shall be like Him. Instead of beliefs about Him.

OK
I do hope you believe that Jesus is God.
You're saying Jesus became a different person.
Did He?
I think He was always the same.
(teaching in the temple when He was only 12).

I know Jesus was not God by the same Spirit of God in me who was in Christ Jesus, same anointing which is Christ in me. Christ = Gods anointing in man.

Important words by you: IT IS WHO WE BECOME.

That says it all.
There are some on here, and other forums, that state that behavior is either not important or will not save us.
I believe that it will due to your words....it is who we BECOME.
We are to become more and more like Jesus....sanctification.
The Law kills but the spirit gives life.

We dont become more and more like Him, it is a gift that God puts within, a new heaven and earth is opened in us just as it was in Jesus, God revealing who He is and all of His kingdom within and that happens in a moments time, a gift that we receive or reject and try to work our way into little at at a time which never will happen until one repents of self in our own ways and receive that gift from God which is to have His same disposition, knowledge of mind, which is so simple, Love, for God is Love and man is the receipent of.

SO simple yet so hard for religious beliefs for a god.

We are, however, to follow the Law of Christ.
Love God
Love your neighbor
Love yourself

The law for Christ is be as I Am.

Christ comes from the Greek word χριστός (chrīstós), meaning "anointed one". The word is derived from the Greek verb χρίω (chrī́ō), meaning "to anoint." In the Greek Septuagint, χριστός was a semantic loan used to translate the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ (Mašíaḥ, messiah), meaning "[one who is] anointed".

Paul came up with the nickname for Christos as Christ at Antioch, before that in the old we who are anointed of Gods same Spirit of mind were referred to as Christos, saints.

The term saint is derived from the Latin word sanctus, meaning "holy" or "consecrated." This is, in turn, a direct translation of the Greek word "άγιος" (hagios), which also means "holy." In its original scriptural usage it simply means "holy" or "sanctified."

This WILL lead to becoming what God would want us to be.

Common sense is not faith and faith is not common sense, they stand in the relation of the natural and the spiritual.

Trusting Jesus what we read of in what he said of himself and his God who sent him, where common sense cannot trust what he says, is only that common sense says it is a lie and he was God.

Most has turned faith into a personal possession only through conflict of ones own beliefs that is not of faith in God at all.

Religious minds are like those of Moses day when they said in Exodus 20:19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

Today -- most even pay a preacher to stand in a pulpit to hear God for them giving their own religious beliefs and ideas for a god of flesh. The reason is flesh is all they understand where the reality in the spiritual being is set aside

The tinniest thing that is allowed in your thinking that is not of the same mind of God, Gods anointing ,Christ in you, as Jesus said of himelf and his God leads to spiritual muddle and is never made clear for you.

People read what Jesus said of himself and his God who sent him, then turn right around and rebuke what he says, saying, but you were God.

To me that is so ironic even though they read who Jesus said he was in God. They listen to mans beliefs for a god instead of seeking the kingdom of God first and His righteousness. Where is Gods kingdom? Jesus was very clear where in Luke 17:20-21. very few believe him sadly.

 

[Gary Mac]

Again that's not me saying it it's me re-stating it. That's not the same thing.

Quotes are quotes.

God has come in the water of baptism.

No God comes by the Spirit He is. You would have to have met Him yourself to know that difference. All that you know of it is water, that is very obvious in your testimony here.

1 Peter 3:21

This water prefigured baptism which now saves you. It does so not by the washing away of dirt from the body but by the pledge of a good conscience given to God through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

If God is water and water saved me I dont needs Gods Spirit to save me at all, do I?

Truth is Gods Spirit came to me and saved me way before I was dunked in a tank of water. and the thief on the cross could not have been with Jesus in Gods paradise that very day could he? I dont see where water saved him, do you?

 

[nedsk]

Quotes are quotes.


No God comes by the Spirit He is. You would have to have met Him yourself to know that difference. All that you know of it is water, that is very obvious in your testimony here.


If God is water and water saved me I dont needs Gods Spirit to save me at all, do I?

Truth is Gods Spirit came to me and saved me way before I was dunked in a tank of water. and the thief on the cross could not have been with Jesus in Gods paradise that very day could he? I dont see where water saved him, do you?

The words are too clear for you or that it?

 

[JohnDB]

So....
Is water Baptism FOR God or FOR the Believer?

God is Omnipotent....meaning ALWAYS perfectly efficient. No spillover effects and zero wasted energy.

But....
We have the case of Simon Magnus. Baptized in water by the Apostles.

If a water baptism was efficacious then surely that one would have been. But it wasn't. It's where the charge of Simony comes from.

 

[Gary Mac]

So....
Is water Baptism FOR God or FOR the Believer?

It is for those who have given up their own right to self beliefs and receive from God His realities for who He is in man that we are supposed to be in His same image of Spirit that He is.

God is Omnipotent....meaning ALWAYS perfectly efficient. No spillover effects and zero wasted energy.

Amen for God is Love and Love never changes, is the same yesterday as it is today and will be the same tomorrow, and man is the place He resides in His kingdom. Luke 17:20-21, everything else changes, everything.

But....
We have the case of Simon Magnus. Baptized in water by the Apostles.

And we have the case of Adam in Gen 3:22 who was the fist to be baptized by God to become like Him, Abraham, Moses Mary, Jesus 120 all of these were baptized by God Himself. Same Spirit come into all of these just as He does in us all today who will let Him instead of making excuses why He cant and is saved by water instead.

If a water baptism was efficacious then surely that one would have been. But it wasn't. It's where the charge of Simony comes from.

Yes they use water rituals as in Splashes sprinkled or dipped as a means to look holy toward man for enterprise for if they taught God does His own baptizing, their pews would empty and religious beliefs are not going to let that happen an loose mans lil ole 10%.

God doesnt want my lil ole 10% man wants that, God wants my 100% and has it.

 

[nedsk]

So....
Is water Baptism FOR God or FOR the Believer?

God is Omnipotent....meaning ALWAYS perfectly efficient. No spillover effects and zero wasted energy.

But....
We have the case of Simon Magnus. Baptized in water by the Apostles.

If a water baptism was efficacious then surely that one would have been. But it wasn't. It's where the charge of Simony comes from.

The charge of simony came because Simon sought to purchase the power of laying on of hands. The apostles couldn't cast out the demon Matthew 1:19 so the apostles can't cast out demons?

Jesus authorities the apostles to make disciples of all nations through what? Baptism. Matt 28:19

 

[GodsGrace]

Pride will keep one chained to a belief, and beliefs are not real only speculations. The only truth comes from God Himself come to you and open in you the very same as He did in Jesus in Matt 3:16 by the Spirit that He is, Adam learned this same truth in Gen 3:22. Abraham learns this truth by the same Spirit of God, Moses learned this truth by that same Spirit, Mary, 120 in an upper room, all learned that same truth by the same Spirit as Jesus learned of. And all today who has seen Him as He really is as these did, become like Him instead of some beliefs about Him. 1 John 3:2. When ye see Him as He is ye shall be like Him. Instead of beliefs about Him.



I know Jesus was not God by the same Spirit of God in me who was in Christ Jesus, same anointing which is Christ in me. Christ = Gods anointing in man.

We dont become more and more like Him, it is a gift that God puts within, a new heaven and earth is opened in us just as it was in Jesus, God revealing who He is and all of His kingdom within and that happens in a moments time, a gift that we receive or reject and try to work our way into little at at a time which never will happen until one repents of self in our own ways and receive that gift from God which is to have His same disposition, knowledge of mind, which is so simple, Love, for God is Love and man is the receipent of.

SO simple yet so hard for religious beliefs for a god.


The law for Christ is be as I Am.

Christ comes from the Greek word χριστός (chrīstós), meaning "anointed one". The word is derived from the Greek verb χρίω (chrī́ō), meaning "to anoint." In the Greek Septuagint, χριστός was a semantic loan used to translate the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ (Mašíaḥ, messiah), meaning "[one who is] anointed".

Paul came up with the nickname for Christos as Christ at Antioch, before that in the old we who are anointed of Gods same Spirit of mind were referred to as Christos, saints.

The term saint is derived from the Latin word sanctus, meaning "holy" or "consecrated." This is, in turn, a direct translation of the Greek word "άγιος" (hagios), which also means "holy." In its original scriptural usage it simply means "holy" or "sanctified."







Common sense is not faith and faith is not common sense, they stand in the relation of the natural and the spiritual.

Trusting Jesus what we read of in what he said of himself and his God who sent him, where common sense cannot trust what he says, is only that common sense says it is a lie and he was God.

Most has turned faith into a personal possession only through conflict of ones own beliefs that is not of faith in God at all.

Religious minds are like those of Moses day when they said in Exodus 20:19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

Today -- most even pay a preacher to stand in a pulpit to hear God for them giving their own religious beliefs and ideas for a god of flesh. The reason is flesh is all they understand where the reality in the spiritual being is set aside

The tinniest thing that is allowed in your thinking that is not of the same mind of God, Gods anointing ,Christ in you, as Jesus said of himelf and his God leads to spiritual muddle and is never made clear for you.

People read what Jesus said of himself and his God who sent him, then turn right around and rebuke what he says, saying, but you were God.

To me that is so ironic even though they read who Jesus said he was in God. They listen to mans beliefs for a god instead of seeking the kingdom of God first and His righteousness. Where is Gods kingdom? Jesus was very clear where in Luke 17:20-21. very few believe him sadly.

I read everything....you say holy means holy.
Can't use the same word to explain the word.
Holy simply means to be set aside for service to God.


Regarding the rest, this would turn into a debate about the divinity of Jesus.
I came to some kind of understanding about the Trinity quite some years ago..
I have no problem with it.
If Jesus is not God,,,,a person is worshipping a man.
Or maybe worship is not the correct word.
Which creates a problem because Jesus was worshipped and He didn't rebuke the worshippers.

I've come to the conclusion that I'm not sure it's worthy to debate this.
The only request I would have is that you do NOT define yourself as Christian...
Christian has a specific meaning and part of that meaning is that one must believe in the Trinity.
This was established in the early life of the church and we cannot change the definition of Christianity.

Only God can make you understand how One God can be One Being but with 3 Persons.
I'll leave it up to Him.

Just 2 comments...
Jesus will be the judge.
Only God can judge.

John helped me a lot to understand..what can be more clear?

John 1:14
14And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us.

What §Word?
a Word became flesh??

In the beginning was the Word.....
and the Word WAS GOD.

 

[JohnDB]

The charge of simony came because Simon sought to purchase the power of laying on of hands. The apostles couldn't cast out the demon Matthew 1:19 so the apostles can't cast out demons?

Jesus authorities the apostles to make disciples of all nations through what? Baptism. Matt 28:19

The charges name/term came from this passage of scripture. But Simon in scripture was Baptized by an Apostle....one of the 12.

And the subject of the Apostles not being successful in casting out a demon (your reference numbers provided are incorrect) comes immediately following the transfiguration.
And that has zero bearing on the discussion at hand except for the fact that Simon was NOT one of the Born from Above. His name was left off the list created by the prophets before he was born. Absolutely denied. Not there to further the Kingdom....he was there to profit off the misery of others. (Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar, Laurie White, Paula White....and many more than I can name in a single post.)

The list was short....and there even have been Gentiles/Goyimn on the list. But not Simon Magnus. (Simony is what we call it when someone tries to purchase a high position in a religious organization

It's now a term and name like Judas, Benedict Arnold, Jezebel, Delilah, or even Blake Lively.

 

[Gary Mac]

I read everything....you say holy means holy.

Yes consecrated, sacred, to God.

Can't use the same word to explain the word.

Only if His word is not in you. His word comes by God Himself and is not written on stone nor in ink but in the hearts and mind of those who God has come to and made us holy by having the same Spirit of Mind that He is. Which simply is Love, for God is Love and man is the temple of Him. Or is supposed to be.

Holy simply means to be set aside for service to God.

Yes consecrated, God in me and I in Him. Walk as He walks in His same light of mind.

Regarding the rest, this would turn into a debate about the divinity of Jesus.

Only if the same divinity from God that Jesus had in himself as you are supposed to have in you, is not in you.

I came to some kind of understanding about the Trinity quite some years ago..

So did I when God Himself opened in me His truths about it. Trinity is a man made doctrine and is only excuses not to be that person of Christ that God make man to be by the Spirit that He is to be in His same image and perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect.

I have no problem with it.

Good. I dont either, it is a false doctrine.

If Jesus is not God,,,,a person is worshipping a man.

If Jesus was God they worshipped Aman that no longer is with us. But we who worship the same God as Jesus did He is alive and well in us all who has received Him as Jesus did.

Or maybe worship is not the correct word.
Which creates a problem because Jesus was worshipped and He didn't rebuke the worshippers.

Here is what Jesus said about that himself. Not what others said about him from their own opinions that we read of. And if you worship Jesus as God then you dont know the God that he said he obeyed and worshiped proven below in who he said he was in his God.

John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 12:44-45. who believes in me, does not believe in me but in Him who sent me. He who sees me sees Him who sent me.

John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me

John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 17:2-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come withj observation, it is withn you

John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

John 14:16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Matt 11:25. At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one.

I've come to the conclusion that I'm not sure it's worthy to debate this.

There is noting to debate if you have the same God in you who came to Jesus in Matt 3:16.

The only request I would have is that you do NOT define yourself as Christian...

I dont, the term Christian is so abuse by religion minds, if someone asks me if I am christian I simply reply -- I an a son of God, His child if that is what you mean.

Christian has a specific meaning and part of that meaning is that one must believe in the Trinity.

A christian is exactly as Jesus was in the Father anointed of God, we walk exactly as He walks in His same light of mind, perfect even as our Father in heaven is perfect.

This was established in the early life of the church and we cannot change the definition of Christianity.

Trinity was establish by those who never has met the same God as Jesus did in Matt 3:16, Adam met Gen 3:22, Abraham met,. Moses met, Mary met, 120 met, they all met the same Spirit of God mainly Jesus in Matt 3:16 met Him.

Only God can make you understand how One God can be One Being but with 3 Persons.

LOL. God is not a person at all, God is a Spirit and I am the place He resides just as His residence was in these who He came to as well. you worship persons instead to the God who is a Spirit and man is His kingdom in which He lives, See Jesus in that in Luke 17:20-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation but is with you.

What if Jesus was right and you are wrong?

I'll leave it up to Him.

the quite dictating to Him who he is and what He is by your own will for Him.

Just 2 comments...
Jesus will be the judge.

God has given His will for man already to be in His same image by the Spirit that He is.

Only God can judge.

No only you can judge Him.

John helped me a lot to understand..what can be more clear?

From what I see , you are listening to the wrong god.

John 1:14
14And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us.

Amen and is in us all who has received Him in us as Jesus, only God Himself can open in you His word. the Bible is only a tutorial for how to receive from God Himself.

What §Word?
a Word became flesh??

Yes, my flesh, Jesus flesh, Adams flesh, Abrahams flesh, Moses flesh, and all flesh who has recieved Him in us.

In the beginning was the Word.....
and the Word WAS GOD.

Amen in the beginning of every mans salvation is the word and that word comes by God Himself. Man is the kingdom of it.

 

[Fred J]

You go right ahead and defend your position.
Insulting other Christians should not be part of the defense.
YOU just stated "you will know them by their fruit".
Indeed.
Let our fruit be in loving kindness...even to those with whom we do not agree.

Correcting and insulting are two different thing, so hold your horses while you can.

The one who lie is a liar, and correcting that person is not wrong, so that in future that person will be wise.

Proverbs 27:
5. Open rebuke is better than secret love.
6. Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

Hebrews 12:
6. For whom the Lord loveth HE chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom HE receiveth.

Therefore what fruit be in loving kindness you're referring to, is it the 'secret love' kind?

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[Fred J]

Heretical means that a teaching is far removed from what mainline Christianity teaches.
The early church believed that the Water is baptism.
Those that were taught by the Apostles understood the water in John 3.5 to be baptismal water.

So the like was because the post was correct.
I tended to think that the water was physical birth...
I'm beginning to understand that it might, indeed, be baptism.

If you care to discuss this, I'd be happy - this is why I began this thread...
I really don't care to discuss other members....this would be incorrect.

That's very sweet, am sorry if i was a bit straightforward in clarifying things.

GodsGrace, it is indeed the 'natural water baptism', for GOD never change nor HIS every word that proceeded out of HIS mouth.

We're not serving an apologetic GOD that HE makes mistakes and corrects them later.

By then many believers would have died believing in the false doctrine caused by GOD, even though men corrupted it.

'Let GOD be true, but every man a liar'; as it is written


Now, It's not wise for Jesus to remind men that they must be born of the water in the bag of the mother's womb to enter the Kingdom of GOD.

Apparently all men did and are eligible, unless Jesus is referring to probably some aliens there that they are exempted?

No, sound so pathetic and unwise and uncool!

Every time we read 'baptize' in the New Testament it is closely referring to 'natural water baptism'.

The one John the Baptist referred to proclaiming to the Jews, baptize with 'Holy Ghost and fire', is the baptism took place on the day of Pentecost.

Another in the house of Cornelius, but 'fire' is not mentioned in the 'text', so we leave it as it is written.

When Apostle Paul said, He's not sent to baptize, clearly He's referring to the ministry of 'natural water baptism', still in progress during his time.

He's been given the ministry of proclaiming the Gospel, but yet he did baptize some of his fellow servants.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord

 

[doctrox]

So many have been in the dark for so long re: the "water baptism" heresy.

Jesus authorities the apostles to make disciples of all nations through what? Baptism. Matt 28:19

Context is everything. Here is the passage:

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Mat. 28:18-20).

What are the action words in that passage (v. 19)?

There are only two action words = go and preach. When the disciples obey the commands to go and to preach, then the result is that people get baptized and taught. The disciples are NOT told to baptize anyone. Rather, baptizing is what takes place EVERY TIME someone receives the truth of what they preach.

So baptism is never a one-off. Baptizing happens to someone EVERY TIME he receives the truth.

Concerning the OP:

WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?​

Again, context is everything.

1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

The emphasis is that one must be born again albeit spiritually - as opposed to the "normal" earthly method of birth that we of the flesh all experience i.e. via the birth canal and its water. This confuses Nic, as he can relate only to a physical birthing and its water - and we only do that once.

In vs. 5 & 6, Jesus tells Nic that for those of the flesh (i.e. people), it takes BOTH "births" (the natural and the spiritual) to "see the kingdom of God."

To totally upset a majority here, know that this mitigates AGAINST any requirement for a "water baptism." We have entire denominations built upon the shifting sand of some physical "water baptism" as a requirement for whatever. THEY ARE WRONG.

 

[Fred J]

The disciples are NOT told to baptize anyone.

Seriously?

What about, 'baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost'?

In the book of Acts, as they are Apostles now, they do water baptize people, even Paul to few of his fellow servants.

 

[doctrox]

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Seriously?

What about, 'baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost'?

Again, as per my previous post, proper English reveals only two action words (go and preach) in that passage. The rest of the passage is what results when those two commands are obeyed.

In the book of Acts, as they are Apostles now, they do water baptize people, even Paul to few of his fellow servants.

Even Paul said,

For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel (1 Cor. 1:17).
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[Fred J]

.Even Paul said,

For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel (1 Cor. 1:17)..

Do you not read the context of what Paul said, or just part to prove your point?

How about the one He said in context, yet he baptized Crispus, Gaius and the household of Stephanas?

 

[doctrox]

As with circumcision, water baptism was a Jewish ritual. It was, out with the old and in with the new. It's why Jesus never water baptized anyone.

 

[Muna]

1Cr 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered

 

[Muna]

Acts 8:36 See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

Philip watered too