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Let me be clear—I’m not here to debate who’s right or wrong. In truth, we’ve all missed the point.

God’s promise was never about earthly land—the so-called ‘Promised Land’ flowing with milk and honey. It was always a metaphor for the Gospel brought by Jesus Christ. Whether Israel or the Jewish people are scattered across the earth, the true Promised Land exists wherever hearts believe in Christ’s Gospel and submit to God’s Word.

Trust me, brothers and sisters—stop wasting your spirit on territorial disputes. Only fools remain shackled to the past, and the past represents the death found in the Law. The future? That’s where the Law finds its life.
2:2
As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

24:41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

24:42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

24:43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
 

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Yes, men CAN Love God and…expounding;


* Heartfully Believe IN God and Gods Messiah…
Yes…
This person IS “prepared” to BE Soul saved, After his Body (mortally) Dies, Raised IN a glorified Body, by God, First Resurrection.

* Heartfully Believe IN God and Gods Messiah IS Christ…
Yes…
This person IS “prepared” to BE Soul saved, After his Body (mortally) Dies, Raised IN a glorified Body, by God, First Resurrection.

* Heartfully Believe IN God and Gods Prophet (ie. sent by God) IS Jesus…
Yes.
This person IS “prepared” to BE Soul saved, After his Body (mortally) Dies, Raised IN a glorified Body, by God, First Resurrection.

*Heartfully Believe IN God and Gods Prophet Jesus IS the Messiah / Christ…
Yes.
This person IS “prepared” to BE Soul saved, After his Body (mortally) Dies, Raised IN a glorified Body, by God, First Resurrection.


* Heartfully Believe IN God and Gods Messiah IS Christ the Lord…
AND Call out TO the Lord Jesus
AND Confess THAT true Heartful Belief…
Yes…
This person IS “Accounted”…
* Gods Book of Life…existing before mankind and not subject to blotting out.
* Lambs Book of Life…name of Person entered…and not subject to blotting out.
* This person…Once and forever Forgiven For having Not Believed AND his Bodily Sin “covered”. ( with Gods Light, that his “Forgiven” SIN “of prior unbelief, can be Seen no more or remembered.” )
* This persons “crucified dead cleansed body” IS Sanctified ( ie. set aside, divided / separated from all “UN-sanctified” dead bodies.)
* This person receives a heart Circumcision.
* This person receives a New Heart.
* This person receives the Seed of God.
* This person receives the Spirit of God.
This Person receives Gods Word to Dwell IN his new spirit, in his new Heart.
* This person IS Spiritually “accounted” bodily dead with Jesus’ Body.
* This person IS “while he Remains physically Alive”… (he IS accounted “a new creature; he is MADE and accounted soul SAV-ED and spirit BORN AGAIN, he Spiritually Lives “IN” Christ Jesus’ Risen Body… called “IN Christ”.)
* This mans Crucified Body, (IN Christ…living or mortally dead) waits for his Redemption By CHRIST the Lord Jesus, called Rapture.


Rapture candidates…
Spiritual Crucifixion… soul saved before mortal death, raised up by the Lord Jesus.

First Resurrection candidates…
soul saved after mortal death, raised up by God.

Glory to God,
Taken
Sorry bud but you cannot LOVE GOD and hate CHRIST and ye cannot love GOD , CHRIST
and hate his words . As far as expounding goes
Many sure seem to love expoundings that go around and omit what is clearly written .
 
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Sorry bud but you cannot LOVE GOD and hate CHRIST and ye cannot love GOD , CHRIST
and hate his words .

I said “Believe”.
You are disagreeing with something I did not say.


As far as expounding goes
Many sure seem to love expoundings that go around and omit what is clearly written .

Believe is Clearly Written.
Belief is a mans inward thought.
Love is a mans outward action.
Do you Love …anything Before you BELIEVE it exists?
 
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I don't see any connection between what you're saying and what you're saying, just as you don't see what I'm saying, There is no debate or communication between us. Whether you believe it or not has nothing to do with me.
I don't want to compare God's wisdom with ignorance.
Well?

You said the following as assumed fact.
God’s promise was never about earthly land—the so-called ‘Promised Land’ flowing with milk and honey. It was always a metaphor for the Gospel brought by Jesus Christ. Whether Israel or the Jewish people are scattered across the earth, the true Promised Land exists wherever hearts believe in Christ’s Gospel and submit to God’s Word.

Trust me, brothers and sisters—stop wasting your spirit on territorial disputes. Only fools remain shackled to the past, and the past represents the death found in the Law. The future? That’s where the Law finds its life.
Yet, God has made promises to men concerning promised land. It says that Abraham died not see the promised land fulfilled to him.

That land Abraham will see when resurrected and alive living in the New Israel as shown for the Millennium.

Christians received no such land promises.
For our Home is to be found in Heaven.
 

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May I ask?
Who were you referring to?



Grace and peace ...........
My mate and his Mob of so called christians who are a Jews for Jesus Mob is the point and you and who ever.

Fact is that all who claim to be Christians are not worthy of Christ Jesus at all ! nor are they truly born again. but remember that Jesus said that this world is full of deceptions and delusions and that's what you clearly are at. or maybe AI ? Because you are so simple. or a Devil that plays such stupid game play, of not knowing or understanding much at all.

You play such ignorant stupid games with T G of C as well. in total ignorance !
 

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My mate and his Mob of so called christians who are a Jews for Jesus Mob is the point and you and who ever.

Fact is that all who claim to be Christians are not worthy of Christ Jesus at all ! nor are they truly born again. but remember that Jesus said that this world is full of deceptions and delusions and that's what you clearly are at. or maybe AI ? Because you are so simple. or a Devil that plays such stupid game play, of not knowing or understanding much at all.

You play such ignorant stupid games with T G of C as well. in total ignorance !
G'day mate!
 

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Well?

You said the following as assumed fact.

Yet, God has made promises to men concerning promised land. It says that Abraham died not see the promised land fulfilled to him.

Yes.



“That” Land (promised to Abraham and “his” descendants,) has a highly signifiant role…
It shall BE the Boundary of Christ Jesus Earthly Millennial Kingdom…and His Throne…seat of His Government;
Jerusalem.

Glory to God,
Taken
 
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Well?

You said the following as assumed fact.

Yet, God has made promises to men concerning promised land. It says that Abraham died not see the promised land fulfilled to him.

That land Abraham will see when resurrected and alive living in the New Israel as shown for the Millennium.

Christians received no such land promises.
For our Home is to be found in Heaven.
So you believe that the place that protects believers on the last day is somewhere called Jerusalem.not by faith..............
 

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So you believe that the place that protects believers on the last day is somewhere called Jerusalem.not by faith..............

Home is a place…abode, habitat, residence.

Faith is a condition…of the Inhabitant, resident.

Faithful to God, shall inhabitant, reside In Gods home, habitat, Kingdom.

Home is “where” the “heart” is.
The “heart” of man, is where his “spirit is”.

The Lord God Almighty’s “home”, residence, kingdom, is Heaven.

A “human man” having been “Transformed”, (via, the Offering, Will, Power of God”)
…IS “MADE”, a “citizen” of Gods “home”, “Kingdom”.

Gods “Kingdom” IS “Heaven”.
Citizens “of” Gods Kingdom, are “called”:

spirit of man, “Re-born” of Gods SEED.
spirit of man, IN Christ…
spirit of man, WITH God…
Christ Lord IN, Lord God, WITH, that man.

Such “a” man, (& Every man, with natural SIGHT), CAN “only physically SEE”, “a glimpse” of The Lord Gods “Kingdom” / Heaven.
( The skys’, clouds, above the Earth).
* Such “a” man, shall “Know” it is “Gods Kingdom”…
* While “other men”…will lay claim to such place, observe, Travel to, Attempt to legislate, control, dominate authority over, such place.)


God “gave” manKIND authority over the Earth, “mans”, habitat, residence.
* Earth IS: dry Land.

God “Foretold”; via “His Word, His Teaching, His Knowledge, His Order, His Way, His Desire”…
For manKIND, To Discover, How To Maintain their Natural Life, Prosper from the Earth, Via Gods Provisions in and of the Earth.

God ALSO, “Foretold”; some men, Via, greed, unscrupulous, underhanded, deviant means … would CAUSE, an imbalance of provisions, God Created for All of manKIND, to have, use, the Earth, To maintain his natural life.

God ALSO, “Foretold”, a TIME would be “manifested, revealed”; WHEN…
God Himself, Would “EXPAND” His “Heavenly Kingdom”… TO “INCLUDE” the Earth.


Anciently: Since the Beginning of manKIND,
Historically: of ManKinds presence,
Modernly: of ManKinds presence,
Future “to a Point:” of ManKinds presence,
God Was, Is “preparing” “particular” (freely willing) men, TO BE, Residents, Inhabitants, Citizens “OF” “His Kingdom”…. ON Earth.

Little by little, Bit by bit… God Reveals, Manifests, His Knowledge, His Understanding, His Offerings, His Inclusions, His Exclusions.

The “Manifestation” of Christ the Lords, Kingdom, ON Earth…IS coming “soon”.
Residents, Citizens, Have, Are Being “Prepared, to Occupy, Reside WITH the Lord, their King, IN “THAT” Place…

That Place…was A Refuge.
That Place…was An Inheritance.
That Place…IS a continual war zone.
That Place…Shall Again BE AN Inheritance, OF “They”, the FAITHFUL, having “been prepared”, to Be “occupants, citizens, thereof”.

Location Specific? Land on Earth?
Numbers Chapter 34.

Temporarily…”Limited” to such Borders.
Big Picture…..”The Entire Earth shall be annexed, claimed, become “included” in Gods Kingdom.”

Gods Kingdom IS a Place.
Faith IS Gift a from God for Mans spirits’ Belief IN God.
Mans Spirit IS IN his Heart.

Glory to God,
Taken
 
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Home is a place…abode, habitat, residence.

Faith is a condition…of the Inhabitant, resident.

Faithful to God, shall inhabitant, reside In Gods home, habitat, Kingdom.

Home is “where” the “heart” is.
The “heart” of man, is where his “spirit is”.

The Lord God Almighty’s “home”, residence, kingdom, is Heaven.

A “human man” having been “Transformed”, (via, the Offering, Will, Power of God”)
…IS “MADE”, a “citizen” of Gods “home”, “Kingdom”.

Gods “Kingdom” IS “Heaven”.
Citizens “of” Gods Kingdom, are “called”:

spirit of man, “Re-born” of Gods SEED.
spirit of man, IN Christ…
spirit of man, WITH God…
Christ Lord IN, Lord God, WITH, that man.

Such “a” man, (& Every man, with natural SIGHT), CAN “only physically SEE”, “a glimpse” of The Lord Gods “Kingdom” / Heaven.
( The skys’, clouds, above the Earth).
* Such “a” man, shall “Know” it is “Gods Kingdom”…
* While “other men”…will lay claim to such place, observe, Travel to, Attempt to legislate, control, dominate authority over, such place.)


God “gave” manKIND authority over the Earth, “mans”, habitat, residence.
* Earth IS: dry Land.

God “Foretold”; via “His Word, His Teaching, His Knowledge, His Order, His Way, His Desire”…
For manKIND, To Discover, How To Maintain their Natural Life, Prosper from the Earth, Via Gods Provisions in and of the Earth.

God ALSO, “Foretold”; some men, Via, greed, unscrupulous, underhanded, deviant means … would CAUSE, an imbalance of provisions, God Created for All of manKIND, to have, use, the Earth, To maintain his natural life.

God ALSO, “Foretold”, a TIME would be “manifested, revealed”; WHEN…
God Himself, Would “EXPAND” His “Heavenly Kingdom”… TO “INCLUDE” the Earth.


Anciently: Since the Beginning of manKIND,
Historically: of ManKinds presence,
Modernly: of ManKinds presence,
Future “to a Point:” of ManKinds presence,
God Was, Is “preparing” “particular” (freely willing) men, TO BE, Residents, Inhabitants, Citizens “OF” “His Kingdom”…. ON Earth.

Little by little, Bit by bit… God Reveals, Manifests, His Knowledge, His Understanding, His Offerings, His Inclusions, His Exclusions.

The “Manifestation” of Christ the Lords, Kingdom, ON Earth…IS coming “soon”.
Residents, Citizens, Have, Are Being “Prepared, to Occupy, Reside WITH the Lord, their King, IN “THAT” Place…

That Place…was A Refuge.
That Place…was An Inheritance.
That Place…IS a continual war zone.
That Place…Shall Again BE AN Inheritance, OF “They”, the FAITHFUL, having “been prepared”, to Be “occupants, citizens, thereof”.

Location Specific? Land on Earth?
Numbers Chapter 34.

Temporarily…”Limited” to such Borders.
Big Picture…..”The Entire Earth shall be annexed, claimed, become “included” in Gods Kingdom.”

Gods Kingdom IS a Place.
Faith IS Gift a from God for Mans spirits’ Belief IN God.
Mans Spirit IS IN his Heart.

Glory to God,
Taken


Taken, what you are preaching is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
It is a satanic counterfeit; a golden calf dressed in prophecy charts and you are leading souls straight into the gates of Hell.

You parade yourself as a teacher of truth, but the proof is only found in the Word of God:

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” (Gal. 3:29)
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly, by the Spirit.” (Rom. 2:28–29)
“There is neither Jew nor Greek… you are all one in Christ Jesus.” (Gal. 3:28)

You rip the crown from the head of the King of Kings and nail it to a flag.
You trample His Cross underfoot to bow before dirt and borders.
You have traded the Kingdom of God for the dirt-filled kingdoms of this world.
“My Kingdom is not of this world.” (John 18:36)

You spit on His Blood by teaching there’s another covenant running alongside the one He sealed with His own life.

Paul didn’t mince words, you are accursed (Gal. 1:8–9).
Jesus Himself said, “Whoever is not with Me is against Me.” (Matt. 12:30) —
and you are against Him every time you replace His finished work with your millennial land deed.

The New Testament obliterates your doctrine:

“But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.” (Titus 3:9) It’s a direct apostolic command that dismantles the very foundation of dispensational bloodline theology.
Paul isn’t vague — he tells Titus that these arguments aren’t just misguided, they’re worthless.

But you're out here every day totally ignoring Christ and Paul and preaching the exact opposite..
All while you completely ignore:


“Neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father”(John 4:21–24).
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed” (Gal. 3:29).
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly” (Rom. 2:28–29).

The Kingdom is not tied to geography.
The promises are fulfilled spiritually in Christ.
The true inheritance is heavenly, not an earthly “annexation".

What you preach is not “another view.”
It is open treason against the Throne of Christ and a ticket to Hell for those who follow it.
The only Israel God recognizes is the Body of Christ, and it’s been that way for 2,000 years.
You are not defending Israel, you are defending Babylon.

And when the Lion of Judah returns, you will not be at His side.
You will stand condemned before Him, and your satanic doctrine will be ground to dust beneath His feet for all to see.
 
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They were blinded by the spirit of lies.


3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

3:11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
 

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So you believe that the place that protects believers on the last day is somewhere called Jerusalem.not by faith..............
What are you talking about?

I don't think you understand what was said.

Are you one of those people who think it is all in our mind only?

God is going to restore Israel and make it better than it has ever been before!
At that time (after the Great Tribulation has ended) it will be manifested having
the very large, vast array of land as was shown to Abraham that he would inherit.

I can suggest a very good teacher for you, if you like. Because what is being covered
in what I say could take hours of lessons (that will not bore you).
 
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Taken, what you are preaching is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
It is a satanic counterfeit; a golden calf dressed in prophecy charts and you are leading souls straight into the gates of Hell.

Your personal opinions and accusations are but irrelevant babble.

You parade yourself as a teacher of truth, but the proof is only found in the Word of God:

I am well aware of WHAT and WHERE Gods Word IS.
I participate in the forum, same as you.
You want to think of “yourself” as Parading…
Who cares.
Your gaslighting is irrelevant nonsense.

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” (Gal. 3:29)
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly, by the Spirit.” (Rom. 2:28–29)
“There is neither Jew nor Greek… you are all one in Christ Jesus.” (Gal. 3:28)

Not news!
Not disputed!
Irrelevant point to your false accusation and personal babble.

You rip the crown from the head of the King of Kings and nail it to a flag.
You trample His Cross underfoot to bow before dirt and borders.
You have traded the Kingdom of God for the dirt-filled kingdoms of this world.

Your awkward attempt to use flamboyant language to make your false claims, (while an amusing effort,) IS the typical gaslighting, expected from you.

“My Kingdom is not of this world.” (John 18:36)

So? Not in dispute.

Any person with an ounce of functioning grey matter, can plainly see…Gods Kingdom “Heaven” IS not “OF” “this world”.

However, IN contrast to you, a person “IN” Christ has the “knowledge and Wisdom” TO “Know, Trust, Believe”…Gods Kingdom Shall come INTO, This World!

Matt 6:
[10] Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

You spit on His Blood by teaching there’s another covenant running alongside the one He sealed with His own life.

Paul didn’t mince words, you are accursed (Gal. 1:8–9).
….you are against Him every time you replace His finished work with your millennial land deed.

More of “your words, you speak, which Applies to YOU.”

The New Testament obliterates your doctrine:

The New Testament Verifies, The Lord Gods Doctrine, of which, I know, trust, believe….
And “obviously” you Reject and do Not, trust or believe.

Rev. 21:
[4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

No expectation…( by your Rejection of Christs Kingdom on Earth ), “you” are “they” or “them” occupying Earth “With Christ”.

Rev. 21:
[1] And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
[2] And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
[3] And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

You can reject Scripture all day long…
That is your FREEWILL.

Blaming “others” for your own “choices”…might fool you…and make you feel good to let your mouth run amuck…
You will not fool God for your own rejection of His Truth or your repetitive gaslighting trying to upchuck your own shortcomings as an others fault.

“you are against Him every time you replace His finished work with your millennial land deed.”

God Sent His Word / Jesus to Earth TO: “accomplish a specific works”…and “then Return to Heaven.”

You FALSELY Claim…”I have “Replaced His Works”…. Total Lie.
Never once Have I remotely implied or made such as asinine claim!

Perhaps “you” are ignorant, and have Not heard…The Word of God, Lord Jesus, is Coming Back to Earth… WITH “Power” ie. Christ…with His saints, with His holy angels…(withOUT Satan’s presence or influence)
To Rule and Reign Over Mortal men, For 1,000 years.

Men, will no longer, be able to BLAME “their own FREEWILL Rejection of God”… ON Satan’s cunning trickery…or “think they” (as you do), can Blame other men, via false accusations, for “their” own ignorance and choices.

Gag.
 
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Taken, what you are preaching is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
It is a satanic counterfeit; a golden calf dressed in prophecy charts and you are leading souls straight into the gates of Hell.

You parade yourself as a teacher of truth, but the proof is only found in the Word of God:

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” (Gal. 3:29)
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly, by the Spirit.” (Rom. 2:28–29)
“There is neither Jew nor Greek… you are all one in Christ Jesus.” (Gal. 3:28)

You rip the crown from the head of the King of Kings and nail it to a flag.
You trample His Cross underfoot to bow before dirt and borders.
You have traded the Kingdom of God for the dirt-filled kingdoms of this world.
“My Kingdom is not of this world.” (John 18:36)

You spit on His Blood by teaching there’s another covenant running alongside the one He sealed with His own life.

Paul didn’t mince words, you are accursed (Gal. 1:8–9).
Jesus Himself said, “Whoever is not with Me is against Me.” (Matt. 12:30) —
and you are against Him every time you replace His finished work with your millennial land deed.

The New Testament obliterates your doctrine:

“But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.” (Titus 3:9) It’s a direct apostolic command that dismantles the very foundation of dispensational bloodline theology.
Paul isn’t vague — he tells Titus that these arguments aren’t just misguided, they’re worthless.

But you're out here every day totally ignoring Christ and Paul and preaching the exact opposite..
All while you completely ignore:


“Neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father”(John 4:21–24).
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed” (Gal. 3:29).
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly” (Rom. 2:28–29).

The Kingdom is not tied to geography.
The promises are fulfilled spiritually in Christ.
The true inheritance is heavenly, not an earthly “annexation".

What you preach is not “another view.”
It is open treason against the Throne of Christ and a ticket to Hell for those who follow it.
The only Israel God recognizes is the Body of Christ, and it’s been that way for 2,000 years.
You are not defending Israel, you are defending Babylon.

And when the Lion of Judah returns, you will not be at His side.
You will stand condemned before Him, and your satanic doctrine will be ground to dust beneath His feet for all to see.

Why are you vehemently set against what God's Word actually teaches?
I bet if Christians could see you in the flesh, they would learn to soon avoid you.

You do not begin to understand what you present with stubborn dogmatism.

Here!

“Neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father”(John 4:21–24).
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed” (Gal. 3:29).
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly” (Rom. 2:28–29).

That has nothing to do with the future of Israel. Paul was teaching gentile Christians about the Jews!
Paul grew up in a Roman gentile culture and was also a devout Jew.
That made him the perfect man to educate the gentile believers about the true meaning of being a real Jew.

“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly” (Rom. 2:28–29).

By Paul showing them that if they had become a believer, having faith?
Like Abraham had done?
That they, too, were a child of Abraham's by his example of salvation by faith.

Why was that so?
Because, Abraham was saved AS A GENTILE!

Stop with your nonsense, please.

You are a loud mouth with a cyber bullhorn, wishing to interrupt the flow of true Christian fellowship.
Not wanting anyone to think with the Word of God.
True fellowship, which you inwardly seem to disdain.
For you want all our attention riveted upon you and your distortions of Scripture,
so no one can grow in sound doctrine.

I wonder...

You must be a very lonely person when outside of your small clique of hateful Jew haters.

But? You must be allowed to speak!

So God can teach truly growing Christians what to look out for.

In Christ.....
 

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Your personal opinions and accusations are but irrelevant babble.



I am well aware of WHAT and WHERE Gods Word IS.
I participate in the forum, same as you.
You want to think of “yourself” as Parading…
Who cares.
Your gaslighting is irrelevant nonsense.



Not news!
Not disputed!
Irrelevant point to your false accusation and personal babble.



Your awkward attempt to use flamboyant language to make your false claims, (while an amusing effort,) IS the typical gaslighting, expected from you.



So? Not in dispute.

Any person with an ounce of functioning grey matter, can plainly see…Gods Kingdom “Heaven” IS not “OF” “this world”.

However, IN contrast to you, a person “IN” Christ has the “knowledge and Wisdom” TO “Know, Trust, Believe”…Gods Kingdom Shall come INTO, This World!

Matt 6:
[10] Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.



More of “your words, you speak, which Applies to YOU.”



The New Testament Verifies, The Lord Gods Doctrine, of which, I know, trust, believe….
And “obviously” you Reject and do Not, trust or believe.

Rev. 21:
[4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

No expectation…( by your Rejection of Christs Kingdom on Earth ), “you” are “they” or “them” occupying Earth “With Christ”.

Rev. 21:
[1] And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
[2] And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
[3] And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

You can reject Scripture all day long…
That is your FREEWILL.

Blaming “others” for your own “choices”…might fool you…and make you feel good to let your mouth run amuck…
You will not fool God for your own rejection of His Truth or your repetitive gaslighting trying to upchuck your own shortcomings as an others fault.



God Sent His Word / Jesus to Earth TO: “accomplish a specific works”…and “then Return to Heaven.”

You FALSELY Claim…”I have “Replaced His Works”…. Total Lie.
Never once Have I remotely implied or made such as asinine claim!

Perhaps “you” are ignorant, and have Not heard…The Word of God, Lord Jesus, is Coming Back to Earth… WITH “Power” ie. Christ…with His saints, with His holy angels…(withOUT Satan’s presence or influence)
To Rule and Reign Over Mortal men, For 1,000 years.

Men, will no longer, be able to BLAME “their own FREEWILL Rejection of God”… ON Satan’s cunning trickery…or “think they” (as you do), can Blame other men, via false accusations, for “their” own ignorance and choices.

Gag.
He's a spiritual idiot who has spent lots of time memorizing Scriptures that he does not understand.
Demons then established a categorical system of thought for him to use those passages to present doctrines
they wish to poison our thinking with.

I wish God would grant him repentance.
 
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They were blinded by the spirit of lies.

3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

Yes and they still are today, and know this.. every dispensationalist in this thread is beyond blind, under the veil, and for the most part, spiritually irredeemable. Sure, we can pray for a miracle, but let’s be honest.. these people are gone.

Their great-grandfather, John Boy Walton got bushwhacked by this satanic garbage theology back in the 1920s hills of Appalachia when Scofield’s “Bible” rolled off the Oxford Press (with Rockefeller’s fingerprints all over it). By now, the whole family tree is steeped in it. You could show them the plain words of Christ and Paul in 200-point font and they’d still run it through their prophecy chart decoder ring and come back saying - "Paul sounds like an Nazi SS and Jesus Christ sounds like the Nazi Commandant! The New Testament is antisemitic!"

And Titus 3:9–11 isn’t just “nice advice” — it’s a divine command:
“Avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless…
A man that is a heretic after the first and second admonition reject.”

^ That is dispensationalism in a single sentence: genealogies and land claims elevated above the Cross.
And doing so is literally, by definition; according to the Word of God, openly disobeying God the Father in rebellion.

Talk about living dangerously when it comes to God's wrath..
Its staggering..

Meanwhile..
Paul already nuked their system in Galatians 3:16:

“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, ‘And to seeds,’ as of many; but as of one, ‘And to thy seed,’ which is Christ.”

And he finishes the thought in 3:29:

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

That means every promise — land included — was fulfilled in Christ alone. Not in “ethnic Israel", not in a flag. Not in your millennial land deed fantasy or ridiculous genealogical claims that God the Father tells us -“are WORTHLESS to claim or pursue” .

Jesus Himself slammed the door on their geography gospel in John 4:21:
“Neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father… true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth.”

So here’s their collision: If they keep preaching that there’s another covenant for unbelieving Jews, another inheritance in dirt and borders, then they are — by definition — preaching “another gospel” (Gal. 1:8–9), and Paul says you are accursed if you do this.
God, literally, curses you.. And yet, they either don't care; or are firmly under the veil and are full servants of the dark lord already..
They think they're "following Jesus", but it's more like following the orders of the antichrist.. they're beyond bewitched and now live in the veil. This is what makes it so much like a real life, sci-fi horror film..

So they're not "defending Israel".
Israel is the Body of Christ.. those jews & gentiles who follow Christ, THE KING.
Thats why those jews & gentiles call themselves "Christians".
For the King of the Jews whom they follow's name is CHRIST.


All those jews and gentiles who don’t follow the King are nothing but open rebels against God making totally outrageous claims that aren't backed up by the Word of God AT ALL.
You can see it in these thread as far as the eye can see.. they can't refute scripture and the Word of God destroys their entire belief system with ease...

They're defending Babylon, not standing with Christ.
They're standing in front of Him, waving a flag where His Cross is supposed to be.

They need to wake up and repent but they can't...
For many of them, it must be that the veil is too strong at this point in time..
They're basically beyond gone..
 
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He's a spiritual idiot who has spent lots of time memorizing Scriptures that he does not understand.
Demons then established a categorical system of thought for him to use those passages to present doctrines
they wish to poison our thinking with.

I wish God would grant him repentance.

Scripture is Knowledge…
Because it Reveals 2 Fold:
*That which IS pleasing to God…
AND
*That which is NOT pleasing to God…
You have A “playbook” of instructions for which ever path one chooses to ride.
For example… the communist manifesto mirrors…what is not pleasing to God.

Then you have the knowledge “the little by little” revealed, “as” generations, from first man, to hundreds of years later, ( whereby, the intent was men, would evolve from ignorance to becoming wise…) and we see the generational rollercoaster on that!! What a farce of young people demanding another pay for their “want” of a college education, yet “they” as prepared as a First grader who knows not history, math, reading, writing.

The ignorant thinking themselves clever, attempt to apply scriptures “to others”, that do not apply…add a dash of snarky attitude…as if that makes their hoax worthy to believe…and think they have accomplished glorifying God.

They are exhausting and boring to boot.

God bless you.

Glory to God,
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Yes and they still are today, and know this.. every dispensationalist in this thread is beyond blind, under the veil, and for the most part, spiritually irredeemable.

God Himself has made No such declaration.

Their great-grandfather, John Boy Walton

Have NOT seen one person claim to be “John Boy Walton’s offspring.


Scofield’s “Bible”

Have NOT seen one person claim, “Scofield’s Bible”, is Their preferred Bible.

their prophecy chart decoder ring

Have NOT seen one person claim to use such things.

Obviously you and a few others, spend your time “reading, studying, the Scofield Bible, are an expert …(with you charts and decoder ring… in something you do not agree with.

Laughable…to IMPLY…The Gospel of Christ Jesus and Glorifying of God…is for you to become an expert in what you claim is Not the Gospel of Christ Jesus…and FYI your consumption of such things IS Not glorifying to God!

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Where do dispensationalist from anywhere say these things? You have made accusations, now I call upon you to support your accusations, or to affirm that this is false.

Much love!
Yeah! He probably found some very weird church that calls itself dispensational and now is trying to brand all dispensational bible believers with these lies!
 

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Why are you vehemently set against what God's Word actually teaches?
I bet if Christians could see you in the flesh, they would learn to soon avoid you.

You do not begin to understand what you present with stubborn dogmatism.

Here!

“Neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father”(John 4:21–24).
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed” (Gal. 3:29).
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly” (Rom. 2:28–29).

That has nothing to do with the future of Israel. Paul was teaching gentile Christians about the Jews!
Paul grew up in a Roman gentile culture and was also a devout Jew.
That made him the perfect man to educate the gentile believers about the true meaning of being a real Jew.

“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly” (Rom. 2:28–29).

By Paul showing them that if they had become a believer, having faith?
Like Abraham had done?
That they, too, were a child of Abraham's by his example of salvation by faith.

Why was that so?
Because, Abraham was saved AS A GENTILE!

Stop with your nonsense, please.

You are a loud mouth with a cyber bullhorn, wishing to interrupt the flow of true Christian fellowship.
Not wanting anyone to think with the Word of God.
True fellowship, which you inwardly seem to disdain.
For you want all our attention riveted upon you and your distortions of Scripture,
so no one can grow in sound doctrine.

I wonder...

You must be a very lonely person when outside of your small clique of hateful Jew haters.

But? You must be allowed to speak!

So God can teach truly growing Christians what to look out for.

In Christ.....


GeneZ — thank you for perfectly illustrating the Scofield reflex: quote the very verses that destroy your own position, then wave your hands and say, “That has nothing to do with Israel’s future.”

You just admitted John 4:21, Galatians 3:29, and Romans 2:28–29 — the very verses you cited — redefine “Jew,” “Abraham’s seed,” and “Mount Zion” around faith in Christ, not ethnic descent or geography. That is the future of Israel, because under the New Covenant there is no Israel outside of Christ (Gal. 3:16, 28).

Your claim that “Abraham was saved as a Gentile” doesn’t rescue your system, it buries it. Abraham’s covenant was fulfilled in the Seed (Christ), not in post-Calvary, Christ-rejecting genealogies. Paul didn’t preach two Israels; he preached one Body, one Gospel, one Shepherd, one flock (Eph. 2:14–16; John 10:16).

You say I’m a loudmouth with a cyber bullhorn? No, I’m quoting the same Word you claim to uphold, but without running it through a prophecy chart first (one cooked up in 1909). You tell me to “stop with my nonsense,” but Galatians 1:8–9 says anyone — anyone — preaching another gospel is accursed. A covenant promise divorced from Christ is another gospel. It is inarguable even on an Oxford debate stage. If you follow any form of Scofield Dispensationalism, you are cursed by God. This isn't according to me, this is according to the Word of God.

As for “hating Jews”? Spare me. I exalt the same King of the Jews you claim to follow and He said, “Whoever rejects Me rejects the One who sent Me” (Luke 10:16). That applies equally to Jews and Gentiles.
Truth isn’t antisemitism, and the Cross isn’t bigotry.

The tragedy is you think you’re defending Israel when you’re defending Babylon and waving a flag where Christ’s Cross is supposed to be.

You honestly don't even know what Israel is in the eyes of God the Father while claiming to be a Christian... its absolutely terrifying.
 
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