Who Are God’s Chosen People?

[GeneZ]

No idea. That's up to Him and His Father to decide.

You should have quit with your first two words.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Yet you must agree that what God wrote and what He said can be different. I'm not sure if this is what you mean by contradict.

Sorry, it wasn't my intention.

Yes agreed, I did not choose to be given the revelations the Holy Spirit has shared with me. I simply receive them, believe them, apply them and share them. Unless the Spirit says not to.

Jesus was recorded saying that His sheep will hear Him. But not a stranger. They will run from them.

Yes, we are subjeted to God and His will.

Yes, there must still be such as these around today. I'm in no place to boast as Jesus knows my weaknesses all too well and could humble me in seconds. I'm very grateful for the truths He downloads into me. They have changed me so much, my attitudes, beliefs, actions.

I thank Him every day for His mercy, grace and love I get to see in those I have the privilege of discipling and within my own journey with Them.

I appreciate the humble attitude, and I'm glad to know you're not exalting yourself over others. Sometimes God does give us unique visions as individuals. The Spirit gives gifts as He chooses. But if they're intended not just for you but for others, you should share them instead of just talk about having them? Otherwise, I cannot discern whether they are true or not. And if they are true they should be able to benefit many.

 

[One 2 question]

I appreciate the humble attitude, and I'm glad to know you're not exalting yourself over others. Sometimes God does give us unique visions as individuals. The Spirit gives gifts as He chooses. But if they're intended not just for you but for others, you should share them instead of just talk about having them? Otherwise, I cannot discern whether they are true or not. And if they are true they should be able to benefit many.

Sure. I have been sharing them in other threads including the dream and visions one. But I am continuing to exercise discernment. What to share, where and when.

 

[amigo de christo]

You should have quit with your first two words.

There are many there be within even christendom that have surrended all to those two words .
YET have NO IDEA they themselves are and have been deceived .
There is a spinner of webs and within its all inclusive web it spins love strands
to bring all as one people , as one mind and one heart to the One who has been spinning these webs .
To the one who is at the center of all this deceptoin . AND that one is not GOD , though it has come
in under the guise it is him and its his love . THEY merge more and more now
under the shade of a paradise which exists ONLY in their minds .
Beleiving this is the love of God and the way to attain peace n safety in the world .
But they are and have been greatly deceived and have loved to have it so .
Heed not the men who have come in to very crafitly to down play the dire importance
of both knowing and learning , WHAT IS WRITTEN in the scrips .
No sirs and no mams , DO not heed the voice of any who cries
Ye cannot learn the bible for yourselves
Lest ye learn it under our methods , our greek , our hermes , our exegigis .
FOR THEY LIE TO YOU . this is only a method used to be able to have power and control
and to allure and to deceive this people right into their love web of upmost delusion .

 

[GeneZ]

There are many there be within even christendom that have surrended all to those two words .
YET have NO IDEA they themselves are and have been deceived .
There is a spinner of webs and within its all inclusive web it spins love strands
to bring all as one people , as one mind and one heart to the One who has been spinning these webs .
To the one who is at the center of all this deceptoin . AND that one is not GOD , though it has come
in under the guise it is him and its his love . THEY merge more and more now
under the shade of a paradise which exists ONLY in their minds .
Beleiving this is the love of God and the way to attain peace n safety in the world .
But they are and have been greatly deceived and have loved to have it so .
Heed not the men who have come in to very crafitly to down play the dire importance
of both knowing and learning , WHAT IS WRITTEN in the scrips .
No sirs and no mams , DO not heed the voice of any who cries
Ye cannot learn the bible for yourselves
Lest ye learn it under our methods , our greek , our hermes , our exegigis .
FOR THEY LIE TO YOU . this is only a method used to be able to have power and control
and to allure and to deceive this people right into their love web of upmost delusion .

You learn the Bible after you are saved.
We do not learn the Bible to get saved.
You got it backwards.

Look at all who are you getting saved.

In spite of what you rant about...
People are getting saved anyway!

No one is going to escape God's eyes!
He knows who are His.

You're trying to bring more in from the other side who are not His?
All that are His, He will save.

 

[amigo de christo]

You learn the Bible after you are saved.
We do not learn the Bible to get saved.
You got it backwards.

Look at all who are you getting saved.

In spite of what you rant about...
People are getting saved anyway!

No one is going to escape God's eyes!
He knows who are His.

You're trying to bring more in from the other side who are not His?
All that are His, He will save.

everything you just said about me was a total false accusation . take a good long look at yourself now .
YOU ASSUMED i said this or that .
HEY gen Z you are well named , GENE Z
I didnt even read the bible TILL AFTER GOD DREW ME . HE THE ONE WHO PUT THE LOVE and DESIRE INTO MY HEART
And INTO THAT BIBLE TO LEARN and TO GROW .
SO hows that for assuming . This generation is in total hyprocrisy .
Now allow me some parting words .
GET IN THE BIBLE . STAY IN IT and love them words and learn and grow . CAUSE not for one second
are you so called speeches and etc gonna silence my mouth about reminding all TO GET IN THAT BIBLE .

 

[amigo de christo]

You learn the Bible after you are saved.
We do not learn the Bible to get saved.
You got it backwards.

Look at all who are you getting saved.

In spite of what you rant about...
People are getting saved anyway!

No one is going to escape God's eyes!
He knows who are His.

You're trying to bring more in from the other side who are not His?
All that are His, He will save.

And why do you think the bereans were mentioned as being more noble than those in thessalonica .
Because FIRST , THEY DID RECIEVE the word
and secondily they SEARCHED THE SCRIPTURES TO SEE
and thus MANY OF THEM DID BELEIVE .
So much for this generations hatred of the scriptures and reminders of being in the bible .
WE BOTH KNOW there are things in the scriptures , things in what JESUS said in the gospels
and later the apostels would also say , THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE REMINDED ABOUT my friend .
You are not fooling me . You are fooling
but not me . Its yourself . I didnt write that to condmen you , but to MAKE YOU wake up and realize
something that most of chrisetendom itself no longer even knows or realizes .
AND THAT IS , WE BEEN DUPED BUD . DUPED . Now in that bible . You got no excuses .

 

[David in NJ]

Who Are God’s Chosen People?

From the beginning of the sacred record, the voice of God declared His purpose upon the earth—to raise up a people who would carry His name, walk in His ways, and shine His light into a world of darkness. The question of who these people are—God’s chosen—echoes through every book of the Bible, a thread woven through covenant, prophecy, judgment, mercy, and ultimate redemption. The answer is not found in ancestry alone, but in obedience, repentance, and love for the Holy One of Israel.

In the days of Abraham, the Lord made a promise, one that would change the course of human history. “Get out of your country, from your family and from your father’s house, to a land that I will show you. I will make you a great nation… and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed” (Genesis 12:1–3). This covenant, made with one man, carried within it a vision for all mankind. It was renewed with Isaac and Jacob, and from Jacob’s sons the twelve tribes of Israel were born. God revealed Himself to this people not because they were mighty, but because He chose to love them and to keep the promise He made to their fathers. “The Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for Himself… because the Lord loves you, and because He would keep the oath which He swore to your fathers” (Deuteronomy 7:6–8).


Israel was not merely to receive blessings, but to become a blessing. They were called to be “a kingdom of priests and a holy nation” (Exodus 19:6). They were given the Torah, the commandments of life, and invited into a covenant of holiness. Yet time and again, the people turned their backs on the Lord who brought them out of Egypt with signs and wonders. They chose idols over the living God, injustice over mercy, rebellion over obedience. The prophets were sent, not with soft words, but with cries of anguish and fire. Isaiah declared, “I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against Me… The whole head is sick, and the whole heart faints” (Isaiah 1:2,5). The sin of the people pierced the heart of the prophets. Jeremiah wept, crying, “O Jerusalem, wash your heart from wickedness, that you may be saved. How long shall your evil thoughts lodge within you?” (Jeremiah 4:14). And yet, the Lord’s mercy did not fail.

The choosing of Israel was not a blind favoritism—it was a covenant of responsibility. With privilege came expectation, and with expectation came judgment when they failed. But the Lord, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love, always left a remnant. He declared through Isaiah, “Unless the Lord of hosts had left to us a very small remnant, we would have become like Sodom” (Isaiah 1:9). Over and over, God promised that though many would fall, a faithful few would remain. “The remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob, to the Mighty God” (Isaiah 10:21). These were not defined by blood alone, but by repentance, by justice, by faithfulness to God’s covenant.

Ezekiel was shown a vision of this purifying work. The Lord said, “I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean… I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you” (Ezekiel 36:24–26). This was not mere restoration of land, but transformation of the heart. The chosen would be those who had been washed, who walked in His statutes and kept His commandments—not by force, but by love.

The prophet Micah asked, “What does the Lord require of you but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God?” (Micah 6:8). The chosen were always intended to reflect God’s character, to live as a light to the nations, not just in temple rituals but in justice, truth, and mercy. Hosea showed the heartbreak of God as a husband betrayed. Yet even in betrayal, the Lord said, “I will allure her, bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfort to her… I will betroth you to Me forever in righteousness and justice, in lovingkindness and mercy” (Hosea 2:14,19).

Then came the fullness of time. The Son of God, born in the flesh, came to His own people—Israel. He came not with sword, but with truth; not to destroy the Law, but to fulfill it. He declared plainly, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 15:24). This was not favoritism, but faithfulness—God had made promises to the fathers, and the covenant was to be offered to their children first. The message of repentance and the call to the Kingdom were extended to the descendants of Abraham because the foundation of all that God had spoken was rooted in their history. Yet Jesus also made it clear that the mercy of God would not be withheld from others. He healed the Canaanite woman’s daughter, praised the faith of a Roman centurion, and revealed to a Samaritan woman that the time was coming when true worship would no longer be tied to place or people, but to spirit and truth. His coming to Israel first was the beginning, not the end. The flock would soon expand. “Other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring,” He said, “and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one Shepherd” (John 10:16). Though He longed to gather His own people, He saw their hardness. He stood before the holy city and wept, “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem… how often I wanted to gather your children together… but you were not willing!” (Matthew 23:37). The tragedy was not that they were not chosen, but that they refused to walk as God’s chosen. Yet even their rejection would open a door for the nations, so that the remnant of Israel and the faithful from every tribe and tongue could become one people under heaven—those who hear His voice, follow His ways, and live by His Word.

Jesus reached beyond the borders. He spoke of other sheep not of this fold, saying, “Them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one Shepherd” (John 10:16). This was the mystery the prophets foresaw—that gentiles would join themselves to the Lord, not as second-class members, but as one people with Israel, united by obedience and faith. Isaiah had thundered long before: “Let not the son of the foreigner… say, ‘The Lord has utterly separated me from His people.’” For the Lord says, “Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, and holds fast My covenant—even them I will bring to My holy mountain” (Isaiah 56:3,6–7). This is the true chosen: those who love the Lord, keep His covenant, and follow His Son.

In the end, the book of Revelation reveals what the prophets and Christ declared all along. God's chosen are not merely a bloodline but a faithful remnant drawn from all nations, purified through trial, and sealed by God. First, we see 144,000 from the tribes of Israel, sealed on their foreheads as servants of God (Revelation 7:3–8). But then, immediately, a vast multitude appears—“of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne… clothed with white robes” (Revelation 7:9). Who are they? “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb” (Revelation 7:14). They are the faithful. They are the chosen. They are those who endured, who obeyed, who followed the Shepherd wherever He went.

At the very end, the New Jerusalem comes down from heaven. Its gates are named for the twelve tribes, its foundations for the twelve apostles. This is not coincidence. It is prophecy fulfilled: one people, one covenant, one city for the faithful from Israel and the nations. Only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life may enter (Revelation 21:27). This is the final choosing—not by bloodline, but by faithfulness.

Let no one trust in lineage. Let no one boast in flesh. The cry of the prophets still rings: “Return to Me, and I will return to you,” says the Lord of hosts (Malachi 3:7). The true chosen are those who fear the Lord, who hear His voice, and obey Him in truth and in spirit. They are few, but they are known by Him. “They shall be Mine,” says the Lord, “on the day that I make them My jewels” (Malachi 3:17). The choosing is still unfolding. The Shepherd still calls. Blessed are those who follow Him—these are the true Israel of God.

Blessings

Are the Jewish people the only people chosen by God to be His people???

 

[David in NJ]

And why do you think the bereans were mentioned as being more noble than those in thessalonica .
Because FIRST , THEY DID RECIEVE the word
and secondily they SEARCHED THE SCRIPTURES TO SEE
and thus MANY OF THEM DID BELEIVE .
So much for this generations hatred of the scriptures and reminders of being in the bible .
WE BOTH KNOW there are things in the scriptures , things in what JESUS said in the gospels
and later the apostels would also say , THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE REMINDED ABOUT my friend .
You are not fooling me . You are fooling
but not me . Its yourself . I didnt write that to condmen you , but to MAKE YOU wake up and realize
something that most of chrisetendom itself no longer even knows or realizes .
AND THAT IS , WE BEEN DUPED BUD . DUPED . Now in that bible . You got no excuses .

The other forum(BAM) is not a true Berean.

Most christians are not true Bereans but rather choose to follow the teachings of exalted men and women.

 

[David in NJ]

What you covered is speaking of the Church!
Those who believe during the Church age are the new man in Christ.

But, Jews who believed outside the church age? They will have their own future home.

John the Baptist differentiated the difference.
John the Baptist stated that he is not the Bride of Christ!
That he, as a Jew, is the friend of the Bridegroom!
Why? John the Baptist was not saved during the Church age!

The one who has the bride is the bridegroom. The friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, ​

rejoices greatly at the bridegroom 's voice. Therefore this joy of mine is now complete." John 3:29​

Got to end the fuzzy thinking if one is to understand this!

John the Baptist is the Friend of the Groom!
Chosen to be by God.

........

Matthew chapter 24 = who is Christ speaking to???

 

[David in NJ]

God has two different chosen people.

The Church and the Jews (who believe outside the Church age).

The Church will have its home in Heaven.

The Jews, theirs will be on the New Earth.

Both Chosen.

Please define "outside the Church age"

 

[LoveYeshua]

Are the Jewish people the only people chosen by God to be His people???

Of course not David, the O.P was a bit long, sorry for that but I did discuss and briefly explained that it is not only Jewish people that are chosen;

From the O.P., ""Jesus reached beyond the borders. He spoke of other sheep not of this fold, saying, “Them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one Shepherd” (John 10:16). This was the mystery the prophets foresaw—that gentiles would join themselves to the Lord, not as second-class members, but as one people with Israel, united by obedience and faith. Isaiah had thundered long before: “Let not the son of the foreigner… say, ‘The Lord has utterly separated me from His people.’” For the Lord says, “Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, and holds fast My covenant—even them I will bring to My holy mountain” (Isaiah 56:3,6–7). This is the true chosen: those who love the Lord, keep His covenant, and follow His Son.

In the end, the book of Revelation reveals what the prophets and Christ declared all along. God's chosen are not merely a bloodline but a faithful remnant drawn from all nations, purified through trial, and sealed by God. First, we see 144,000 from the tribes of Israel, sealed on their foreheads as servants of God (Revelation 7:3–8). But then, immediately, a vast multitude appears—“of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne… clothed with white robes” (Revelation 7:9). Who are they? “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb” (Revelation 7:14). They are the faithful. They are the chosen. They are those who endured, who obeyed, who followed the Shepherd wherever He went.""

there is also the parables of Yeshua;

Jesus’ teaching that Gentiles can be joined to God’s people is also rooted in the words of the Old Testament prophets, who spoke clearly about it long before His ministry.

In the parable of the Wedding Feast (Matthew 22:8–10), the king first invited his own people, but when they refused, he sent servants into the streets to bring in anyone willing to come. This shows that God’s invitation to His kingdom extends beyond Israel to all who will accept it.

In the Good Shepherd teaching (John 10:16), Jesus said, “And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring… and there will be one flock and one shepherd.” Here, “other sheep” means those outside Israel who will be joined into one people under Him.

When He spoke of the Vine and the Branches (John 15:1–5), He showed that anyone who abides in Him will be connected to the life of God. Even though He does not say “graft,” the picture of branches being part of one vine makes it clear that new branches can be joined to Him.

In the Vineyard and the Tenants (Matthew 21:43), He warned that the kingdom would be taken from those who reject Him and given to a people producing its fruits — pointing to a new community made of believing Jews and Gentiles together.

The prophets saw this day coming. Isaiah declared:

“Also the sons of the foreigner who join themselves to the LORD, to serve Him… even them I will bring to My holy mountain, and make them joyful in My house of prayer… For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.” (Isaiah 56:6–7 NKJV)

All these teachings show that Gentiles can be joined to God’s covenant people through faith in Jesus. They will not replace Israel, but will be united with the faithful of Israel into one flock, one vine, and one kingdom. In God’s plan, the door is open to all who believe, obey, and remain in Him.

 

[David in NJ]

Of course not David, the O.P was a bit long, sorry for that but I did discuss and briefly explained that it is not only Jewish people that are chosen;

From the O.P., ""Jesus reached beyond the borders. He spoke of other sheep not of this fold, saying, “Them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one Shepherd” (John 10:16). This was the mystery the prophets foresaw—that gentiles would join themselves to the Lord, not as second-class members, but as one people with Israel, united by obedience and faith. Isaiah had thundered long before: “Let not the son of the foreigner… say, ‘The Lord has utterly separated me from His people.’” For the Lord says, “Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, and holds fast My covenant—even them I will bring to My holy mountain” (Isaiah 56:3,6–7). This is the true chosen: those who love the Lord, keep His covenant, and follow His Son.

In the end, the book of Revelation reveals what the prophets and Christ declared all along. God's chosen are not merely a bloodline but a faithful remnant drawn from all nations, purified through trial, and sealed by God. First, we see 144,000 from the tribes of Israel, sealed on their foreheads as servants of God (Revelation 7:3–8). But then, immediately, a vast multitude appears—“of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne… clothed with white robes” (Revelation 7:9). Who are they? “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb” (Revelation 7:14). They are the faithful. They are the chosen. They are those who endured, who obeyed, who followed the Shepherd wherever He went.""

there is also the parables of Yeshua;

Jesus’ teaching that Gentiles can be joined to God’s people is also rooted in the words of the Old Testament prophets, who spoke clearly about it long before His ministry.

In the parable of the Wedding Feast (Matthew 22:8–10), the king first invited his own people, but when they refused, he sent servants into the streets to bring in anyone willing to come. This shows that God’s invitation to His kingdom extends beyond Israel to all who will accept it.

In the Good Shepherd teaching (John 10:16), Jesus said, “And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring… and there will be one flock and one shepherd.” Here, “other sheep” means those outside Israel who will be joined into one people under Him.

When He spoke of the Vine and the Branches (John 15:1–5), He showed that anyone who abides in Him will be connected to the life of God. Even though He does not say “graft,” the picture of branches being part of one vine makes it clear that new branches can be joined to Him.

In the Vineyard and the Tenants (Matthew 21:43), He warned that the kingdom would be taken from those who reject Him and given to a people producing its fruits — pointing to a new community made of believing Jews and Gentiles together.

The prophets saw this day coming. Isaiah declared:

“Also the sons of the foreigner who join themselves to the LORD, to serve Him… even them I will bring to My holy mountain, and make them joyful in My house of prayer… For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.” (Isaiah 56:6–7 NKJV)

All these teachings show that Gentiles can be joined to God’s covenant people through faith in Jesus. They will not replace Israel, but will be united with the faithful of Israel into one flock, one vine, and one kingdom. In God’s plan, the door is open to all who believe, obey, and remain in Him.

Thank You my Brother

 

[LoveYeshua]

Thank You my Brother

you're welcome,

Blessings.

 

[GeneZ]

Matthew chapter 24 = who is Christ speaking to???

Matthew 24 was Jesus speaking to Jews.
For the church age was still yet to come.

Jesus spoke as a good Rabbi would, to Jews concerning Jewish prophesy.

Keep in mind there are 51 verses in Matthew 24.
You did not point to anything specific, so I gave a generalized answer.

 

[GeneZ]

Please define "outside the Church age"

From the Time of Pentecost to the Rapture is the church age.
All else, it outside.

 

[David in NJ]

Matthew 24 was Jesus speaking to Jews.
For the church age was still yet to come.

Jesus spoke as a good Rabbi would, to Jews concerning Jewish prophesy.

Keep in mind there are 51 verses in Matthew 24.
You did not point to anything specific, so I gave a generalized answer.

GeneZ - you are 100% correct when you pointed out that John the Baptist was not part of the Bride in your post #20
Only the ones whom Christ called to Himself were the Bride, and the Bride grew in number at Pentecost and is still growing in number as we speak.

Since this is irrevocable TRUTH it cannot be reversed for Matthew chapter 24 and pertain to the unrepentant Jews.

Furthermore, JESUS said that Matthew chapter 24 is for His Bride

 

[David in NJ]

From the Time of Pentecost to the Rapture is the church age.
All else, it outside.

From the Time of Pentecost to the Second Coming of Christ is the Church age.
All else, are outside = Gospel, John chapters 1 thru 3 , Matthew chapters 24 & 25 , Acts , Apostles Letters, Revelation

 

[GeneZ]

GeneZ - you are 100% correct when you pointed out that John the Baptist was not part of the Bride in your post #20
Only the ones whom Christ called to Himself were the Bride, and the Bride grew in number at Pentecost and is still growing in number as we speak.

Since this is irrevocable TRUTH it cannot be reversed for Matthew chapter 24 and pertain to the unrepentant Jews.

Furthermore, JESUS said that Matthew chapter 24 is for His Bride

Who entered into the Church age is not the point.

He was preaching to Jews, as a good rabbi would have preached.
For what He preached about pertained to the future of the Jews.

Do you remember?
What Jesus was going to do later was to be undetected by the Jews. It was supposed to remain a mystery until later.
Jesus kept on preaching like a Rabbi who was to teach Jews.

​

I have become its servant by the commission God gave me to present to you the word of God
in its fullness— the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is now
disclosed to the Lord’s people." Colossians 1:25-26​

In Matthew, what Paul spoke of as hidden was being unseen by unsuspecting Jews.
Matthew 24 was taught in a manner as to be teaching Jews.

Some of Matthew 24 is written for Jews to read who will be going through the Tribulation while the Church will be in Heaven

 

[amigo de christo]

The other forum(BAM) is not a true Berean.

Most christians are not true Bereans but rather choose to follow the teachings of exalted men and women.

The grave and deadly dangers of the teachings and interpreations of men gone wrong
has greatly overcome much of christendom now .
But we were warned my friend . They knew . The apostels knew and had warned the church
what would come in and overtake many specially nigh the end .
WELL its the end my friend . We living in times of a great delusion that is tearing down whole houses
from within and have erected another god and its love as THEIR GOD and THEIR LOVE .
The end approaches , inquity has abounded and perlious times lie ahead . Faithful unto death .
THEY loved not their lives unto the death . The LORD has the sheep
and let all who name the name of CHRIST depart from INQUITY .