I think Truly saw your post as opposite of how you meant it. It was confusing to me as well at first.
I agree with most of that. I do not think that we are destined to have to sin everyday though. I think it is a walk and over time as we learn to walk in the Spirit more and more we sin less and less. When I walk in the Spirit I don't sin. God does keep me. But if I drift away and find myself with my eyes off of Christ I begin to walk in the flesh- it's a sin waiting to happen. Usually quite fast. For most sinful behavior my desire for it is gone but It may be just a mean thought or a harsh word to someone. Something unloving..
BUT the HS convicts me immediately and it is my reminder that I was heading towards the get stuck in the thicket..
So my eyes go back onto Christ and I confess it (which is agreeing with God) and I know that Jesus' blood washes my feet-
In that moment of grace I offer praises of thanksgiving and have joy and peace.. hence I walk in the Spirit again. I appreciate these reminders when I mess up- It is as if sin causes the grace. Well, yes it does, But no one likes sinning after being made a child of God.
But Behold comes from a very different place- saying that we can not sin, should not repent of sin, and that behavior has no bearing on the relationship between us and God.
I do not agree with that and it is not scriptural--. Even Paul clearly did not teach such a thing. It also is not the way the spirit leads me.
I thought maybe Behold was confusing thinking that we think that we can earn our salvation by not sinning instead of by grace and then being given the power of the Spirit who gives us dominion over sins- we are no longer slaves- the desire is removed and the by the Spirit
desire to sin is removed and we no longer want to sin.
But no- he is saying that behavior after salvation is irrelevant to salvation- when I say no, we are changed inside so of course our behavior is also changed. It is evidence of a new heart. This is all of God, not us.
Behold sounds like a televangelist to ,me sometimes and we have too many of them. I want him to be able to see what we are saying. I hope maybe in time it will come together for him.
There are so many verses to support what we are saying but I don't get a response. I just keep posting them in hope.
Eph 5:3-5
But among you, as is proper among the saints, there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed. / Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk, or crude joking, which are out of character, but rather thanksgiving. / For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure, or greedy person (that is, an idolater) has any inheritance in
the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its desires. / Do not present the parts of your body to sin as instruments of wickedness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and present the parts of your body to Him as instruments of righteousness.
Ro 6:12-13
Ro 8:13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but
if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
Col 3:5 Put to death, therefore, the components of your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires, and greed, which is idolatry. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming on the sons of disobedience. / When you lived among them, you also used to walk in these ways. ...
Col 4:22-24
to
put off your former way of life, your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; / to be renewed in the spirit of your minds; and to
put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.
Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. --Colossians 3:5
Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. / Instead, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the desires of the flesh. Ro 13
Flee from youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, together with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 2 Tim 2:22
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Ro 6:6
Gal 5
So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. / For the flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are opposed to each other, so that you do not do what you want.
1 Cor 9:27
No, I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified.
2 Cor 7:1
Therefore, beloved, since we have these promises,
let us cleanse ourselves from everything that defiles body and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
1 Thes 4:3
For it is God’s will that you should be holy: You must abstain from sexual immorality; / each of you must know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, / not in lustful passion like the Gentiles who do not know God; ...
Heb 12:4
Pursue peace with everyone,
as well as holiness, without which no one will see the Lord.
James 1:21
Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and every expression of evil, and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save your souls.
Ro 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Col 3:9-10
Do not lie to one another, since
you have taken off the old self with its practices, / and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator.
For you know what commandments we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. 3For this is the will of God, your sanctification;
that is, that you abstain from sexual immorality;
4that each of you know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor,
5not in lustful passion, like the Gentiles who do not know God;
6and that no man transgress and defraud his brother in the matter because the Lord is
the avenger in all these things, j
ust as we also told you before and solemnly warned you. 7For God has not called us for the purpose of impurity, but in sanctification.
8So, he who rejects this is not rejecting man but the God who gives His Holy Spirit to you.
1 Thes 4:2-8
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, / nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers
, will inherit the kingdom of God. --1
Cor 6
