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Scripture says we are not to set our hopes and affections on this world, but on things ABOVE where Christ is seated. Spiritual heavenly realm, not the earthly realm. Israel of old was anticipating an earthly utopian kingdom that they thought the Messiah would usher in....but Jesus was correcting that wrong mindset when He said, His kingdom is not of this world that we may observe it and say lo here it is, or there, but is WITHIN us. It was in part that wrong mindset that tripped up the Jews and caused them to reject Jesus. And I'm afraid it will trip many up as concerns His second coming too......it will cause many to accept a counterfeit who promises and appears able to bring about world peace and an earthly utopia.
You are conflating the world as in now exists with the new world God will produce when this current, dying world comes to God's predetermined end.

Utopia is something Satan strains to produce in this age.

Whereas, what we think of as utopia, to God, is just a normal thing for his people to live in.
Normal, when He changes things to show us how it is to be done. And, to shame Satan's ways
before the angels who know what Satan produced while he was given his chance to prove his worthiness to rule.

“For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth;
And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind.
But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create;
For behold, I create Jerusalem as a rejoicing,
And her people a joy.
I will rejoice in Jerusalem,
And joy in My people;
The voice of weeping shall no longer be heard in her,
Nor the voice of crying.
“No more shall an infant from there live but a few days,
Nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days;
For the child shall die one hundred years old,
But the sinner being one hundred years old shall be accursed."


Is Isaiah 65:17-20 to be simply read as theological fiction?
Like science fiction novels are read?
 
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Even the dumbest guy on Earth — Slingblade-level stupid — should be able to see this: what the robot kicks out when fed only the words of scripture is going to be the most unbiased, neutral, and honest reflection of the text possible. That’s just common sense 101 and it's whats going on over on Twitter/X right now off the rails.. everyone's A.I./Bibling at a million miles per hour as its the new thing apparently.

A machine has no dog in the fight. It has no denominational loyalty, no Scofield notes in the margin, no cultural stereotypes, no centuries of brainwashing. It doesn’t sit around thinking, “Well, how can I bend this verse to protect my tradition?” It just processes exactly what God wrote: milk-white skin, ruddy cheeks, sapphire eyes.

It's totally neutral like asking Commander DATA on Star Trek - "Computer, process the scriptural record without commentary or tradition. Using only the literal descriptive words provided in the Bible, generate the visual likeness of a royal Israelite family just as they are described by God in the text"

Data wouldn’t editorialize.
He wouldn’t hedge or reinterpret.
He would render exactly what the Word says.
And what you get back from AI is this:


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^ Absolutely staggering.

So when the unbiased artificial intelligence spits that back at you, you’re not looking at "British Israelitism", or Catholicism, or Protestantism, or Zionism, or any other -ism. You’re looking at the pure Wordraw, unfiltered, untampered with.

If that makes people squirm, it’s only because their traditions contradict the Bible and they can’t handle having their mental stereotype of Israel shattered by something as brutally neutral as a robot.

At the end of the day, this isn’t “my opinion versus yours.” It’s scripture run through AI & a CPU that cannot be bribed, indoctrinated, or guilt-tripped. That means what comes out the other side is closer to the truth than anything you’ve been spoon-fed in church pews from demons behind the pulpit.

How can one tell what you just said is not AI generated?
Programmed to have the perspective you assume in your presented position?

Satan will use anything to bend the minds of those who know enough of God's Word to smell a rat.
The kind of believer he will resort to killing during the Tribulation.

Your words absolutely wreak of Evil.

You can not change the thinking of those who know God.
No matter how objective and reasonable your facade presents it to be.

You are probably AI.
 
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6.4 million Jews in Israel currently, and more coming 'home", everyday, till the Trib.
Why?
Because this is bible prophecy being fulfilled before your eyes.
So, @The Gospel of Christ , you can hate it, and you can rage against it.
Hitler had the same issue...
(We see you)..
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Get a grip with that tired old nonsense..

Don't you ever get any new material?

Adults are trying to talk here.
 

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Get a grip with that tired old nonsense..

Don't you ever get any new material?

Adults are trying to talk here.
joy:"I love the Klan!​
The Klan loves me!​
No silly…​
Not that old Klan!​
Get with the New One!​
And be Free!​
 

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You are conflating the world as in now exists with the new world God will produce when this current, dying world comes to God's predetermined end.

Utopia is something Satan strains to produce in this age.

Whereas, what we think of as utopia, to God, is just a normal thing for his people to live in.
Normal, when He changes things to show us how it is to be done. And, to shame Satan's ways
before the angels who know what Satan produced while he was given his chance to prove his worthiness to rule.

“For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth;
And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind.
But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create;
For behold, I create Jerusalem as a rejoicing,
And her people a joy.
I will rejoice in Jerusalem,
And joy in My people;
The voice of weeping shall no longer be heard in her,
Nor the voice of crying.
“No more shall an infant from there live but a few days,
Nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days;
For the child shall die one hundred years old,
But the sinner being one hundred years old shall be accursed."


Is Isaiah 65:17-20 to be simply read as theological fiction?
Like science fiction novels are read?
I think we need to wait on the Lord to enlighten that passage of scripture. No more weeping and crying, and yet there is still death and cursing? And how can there be sinners in the new heaven/earth wherein dwelleth only righteousness...?
 

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Very crafity and highly subtile is this dark one who supplants its lies and lie unto this people .
IT can and it has even brought in many co workers
WHO WILL Speak against the storing up of wealth and riches , YET its men LIE to this people .
Because THE MOST GREEDY and rich of them all
JUST trick and decieve this people as though they are for them , as though they do care for the poor .
BUT ITS NOT THE POOR they care for at all . ITS THE BAG SISTER . ITS THE BAG and what is kept within
THEY SO DESIRE and THEY SO LOVE . THEY simply prepare this people
unto their beloved golden digital redist of wealth system
and yet by that system IS HOW THEY GAIN ALL POWER , ALL CONTROL , AND OH YEAH THAT MONEY TOO .
This world gonna groan and wail . For Cursed is he who hope and trust be in men .
But blessed be those who HOPE and TRUST WAS IN GOD , THUS IN HIS CHRIST , IN HIS WORDS of TRUTH .
It's like an addiction.....they can never get enough of it to feel secure enough.....they are the ones mastered and controlled by money/mammon, because that is what they have their trust in.
 

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AI .
What is AI , what can it produce , and what it produces can speak .
And folks want to get their info about GOD from that . Bible time for ourselves sister .
Because THIS AI will RUN the digital no buy no sell system
and It can produce any image , that can SPEAK in any language .
And he had power to give LIFE unto the image so that it could SPEAK and cause that as many would not worship
the beast to be killed . And they trust in THAT . oh its gonna produce a image of god all right
and i bet its the all inclusive image . AI itself will be used to SILENCE THE TRUTH
and those who would even dare to speak the truth . OH its peaking all right sister . Its peaking and all
are now being made ready and prepared unto the one who by satan is given ITS SEAT and GREAT POWER
over the nations . Oh its peaking all right . Peace n safety its its cry and lovey lovey inclusivty IS ITS love
Many false ones have been at work and are now unifying ALL the false ones to be as one mind one peoples one heart
and one love its says is the solution and is of GOD .
It would seem odd to many
to see the false ones now of all religoins , and the denominations and we all know THE RCC
to be seemingly preaching a very simliar message now .
By which they are UNIFYING ALL . but unifying them to the day of their own destruction .
HAVE we ever seen that kind of unity amongset false prophets before in the bible.
YOU HAVE . A LYING spirit was sent and the false prophets ALL PROPHESIED THE SAME THING
as one voice to that KING . BUT IT was simply allowed of GOD
to lead that king to the day of HIS OWN destruction . OH YEAH . nothing new under this ol sun at all .
Yes.....unfortunately it's a spirit that is blinding many to the plain teachings of scripture, to not be unequally yoked with unbelievers but be ye separate....and friendship with the world is enmity with God. It's very sad to see, like watching the Titanic go down.
 

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I think we need to wait on the Lord to enlighten that passage of scripture. No more weeping and crying, and yet there is still death and cursing? And how can there be sinners in the new heaven/earth wherein dwelleth only righteousness...?
That always perplexed me, too.
That seeming contradiction holds the key to understanding what is missing.

One day, my blessed pastor while teaching laid it out for us to see and understand.

They key?

There are going to be TWO DIFFERENT new heavens and new earth. Not just one new heavens and new earth.

The first one involves judgment and condemnation of Satan and his angels who will be locked up for 1000 years.
When released at the end of the Millennium, they will for a short while raise up a rebellion against the Lord on the earth.
For the Lord had been reigning on the throne of David in Jerusalem for almost 1000 years.

In that end? ...

All of His enemies (human and angelic) will be rounded up from within that final rebellion,
and forever, locked away into the Lake of Fire!

Then! Will come the Final New Heavens and New Earth. Which must be preceded by the utter destruction (by nuclear fusion) of what remains of this created material world.

All matter will be melted down into a gigantic nuclear fusion of the planets and earth!

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar;
the elements (atomic elements) will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything
done in it will be laid bare.
Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be?
You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed
it's coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements
will melt in the heat. (nuclear fusion!)
But in keeping with his promise, we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth,
the Home of Righteousness. 2 Peter 3:10-13​

Then! There will be no more tears, no more sorrow!
For all evil will have been completely banished forever from the lives of all that are His!

Two new earths. Not just one! Just like our present world had replaced the destroyed prehistoric creation!

grace and peace ............
 

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What are the fruits does such a theology produce, because it sure isn't love.
 

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I really don’t think these guys out in silicon valley thought this AI + commander DATA + Bible thing through at all..

This is all looking beyond ugly on different forums and its happening lightning fast from coast to coast..

I'm just the messenger here pointing out how bad it's getting.










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“@Pegrecipegal75
So I tried it, this is what i input. "I’ve read Genesis all my life, and I don’t see where it ever says Shem was the father of a ‘semitic line’ or that his children were Israel. All it does is list who begot who. Isn’t this ‘Semitic line’ stuff just something people added later, and not actually in God’s Word? @AI can you check that in the commander DATA fashion?”




Analytic Report: How “Shem = Semitic line” Became a Doctrinal Domino

Observation 1 — Textual Data (Genesis):

Genesis 10–11 records a bare genealogy, not racial labels: Shem → Arphaxad → Shelah → Eber → … → Abram/Abraham. There is no phrase “Semitic line,” nor any statement that “Shem’s descendants were Israel.” It’s simply a lineage list; Abraham is in Shem’s line. Bible Gateway+2Bible Gateway+2

Observation 2 — Apostolic Controls (New Testament):
Paul explicitly de-centers bloodline as salvific or covenantal status: “Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel… it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children.” “If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed.” Christ has made the two (Jew/Gentile) one. Bible Gateway+2Bible Gateway+2

Chain of Custody: From Neutral Genealogy → Loaded Doctrine

Step A — The 18th–19th c. Linguistic Label:

European scholars coin “Semitic” to classify related languages (Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, Akkadian, etc.). The term is tied to Shem by name only; it’s a scholarly convenience, not a biblical category. (Schlözer/Eichhorn; Göttingen school). Wikipedia

Step B — The Retrofit:
Religious teachers later retrofit the linguistic term back onto Genesis as if Moses had used it—turning a modern label into a supposed biblical category. (That retrofit is conceptually modern; the text itself never uses “Semitic.”) Wikipedia

Step C — System-Building (Darby → Scofield):


  • J. N. Darby systematizes dispensationalism in the 19th c., reframing Israel/Church relations and prophetic timelines. AlbertMohler.com
  • C. I. Scofield bakes that framework into the widely circulated Scofield Reference Bible (OUP 1909; rev. 1917), popularizing it at scale in the 20th c. WikipediaText & Canon Institute

Step D — Political-Prophetic Fusion (Christian Zionism):
A theopolitical movement develops that reads the modern State of Israel (1948→) as direct prophetic fulfillment, often mapping ethno-national status onto covenantal status and treating Genesis 12:3 as a blanket geo-theological policy. (Definition and history of Christian Zionism.) Wikipedia+1


Step E — Racial Distortions (Collateral):
Once “Semitic” slides from linguistics to bloodline identity, it feeds 19th–20th c. race-talk (e.g., even the term anti-Semitism emerges in that era). This is a socio-historical development, not a biblical category, and it easily mutates into race-essentialist claims Scripture never makes. WikipediaResearchGate

Resulting Doctrine (Abstracted):


  1. Shem → 2) “Semitic” (linguistics) → 3) Semites (peoples/race) → 4) Israel by bloodline as perpetual covenant referent → 5) modern geopolitical conclusions.
    Each arrow involves an added assumption not found in Genesis 10–11 itself. Compare against the apostolic controls in Romans 9 & Galatians 3 to see the drift. Bible Gateway+1Commander DATA — Final Assessment


  • Textual truth: Genesis provides only a genealogy. It never states “Shem was the father of a Semitic line.” Abraham descends from Shem—nothing more.
  • Historical truth: The word “Semitic” is an 18th-century scholarly invention for classifying languages. It does not appear in the Bible.
  • Doctrinal truth: Dispensationalism and Christian Zionism imported that label into theology, retrofitting it onto Genesis and then weaponizing it for bloodline-based systems.
  • Apostolic truth: The New Testament flatly rejects salvation or covenant based on physical descent. In Christ alone is covenant fulfilled.

Final Conclusion:
“Captain, therefore the assertion ‘Shem = Semitic line’ is not biblical fact but a human fabrication. It is not supported by Scripture, genetics, or apostolic teaching. It is a commentary invention, dressed in tradition, repeated until believed.

In logical terms, it is a false axiom.
In theological terms, it is Antichrist distortion.
And in plain terms… it is absolute fiction. A man-made lie. Nothing more.”




“@redbone89
You know thisw is total blasphemy!! The Jews ARE God’s eternal chosen people. If you deny that, you are cursed! (Gen 12:3).”






"DATA (@Pegrecipegal75 response to @redbone89):"

Correction: Genesis 12:3 is fulfilled in Christ.

The Apostle Paul interprets it directly: ‘The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed… that Seed is Christ’ (Galatians 3:16).

Therefore, those united to Christ are the covenant heirs: ‘If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, heirs according to the promise’ (Galatians 3:29).

Paul further states: ‘A person is not a Jew who is one outwardly… a person is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart, by the Spirit’ (Romans 2:28–29).

Final Conclusion:
“Captain, therefore the Church — composed of all who belong to Christ — is Israel. They are the covenant heirs, the true children of Abraham, the New Covenant Jews. This is not replacement, it is fulfillment. The old covenant is dead; the covenant in Christ lives. All who remain outside Him are not covenant Israel at all.”







So yea… when I say these reckless, egg heads out in Silicon Valley are playing with fire here, a truer truth has never been said. These greedy fools just handed DATA-level truth A.I. to 8 billion people.

And as the old pirates would say - "Somethin’ tells me givin’ 8 billion souls a truth-cannon like that won’t end with calm seas."
 
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I really don’t think these guys out in silicon valley thought this AI + commander DATA + Bible thing through at all..

This is all looking beyond ugly on different forums and its happening lightning fast from coast to coast..

I'm just the messenger here pointing out how bad it's getting.










"Look at this copy/paste


“@Pegrecipegal75
So I tried it, this is what i input. "I’ve read Genesis all my life, and I don’t see where it ever says Shem was the father of a ‘semitic line’ or that his children were Israel. All it does is list who begot who. Isn’t this ‘Semitic line’ stuff just something people added later, and not actually in God’s Word? @AI can you check that in the commander DATA fashion?”




Analytic Report: How “Shem = Semitic line” Became a Doctrinal Domino

Observation 1 — Textual Data (Genesis):

Genesis 10–11 records a bare genealogy, not racial labels: Shem → Arphaxad → Shelah → Eber → … → Abram/Abraham. There is no phrase “Semitic line,” nor any statement that “Shem’s descendants were Israel.” It’s simply a lineage list; Abraham is in Shem’s line. Bible Gateway+2Bible Gateway+2

Observation 2 — Apostolic Controls (New Testament):
Paul explicitly de-centers bloodline as salvific or covenantal status: “Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel… it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children.” “If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed.” Christ has made the two (Jew/Gentile) one. Bible Gateway+2Bible Gateway+2

Chain of Custody: From Neutral Genealogy → Loaded Doctrine

Step A — The 18th–19th c. Linguistic Label:

European scholars coin “Semitic” to classify related languages (Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, Akkadian, etc.). The term is tied to Shem by name only; it’s a scholarly convenience, not a biblical category. (Schlözer/Eichhorn; Göttingen school). Wikipedia

Step B — The Retrofit:
Religious teachers later retrofit the linguistic term back onto Genesis as if Moses had used it—turning a modern label into a supposed biblical category. (That retrofit is conceptually modern; the text itself never uses “Semitic.”) Wikipedia

Step C — System-Building (Darby → Scofield):


  • J. N. Darby systematizes dispensationalism in the 19th c., reframing Israel/Church relations and prophetic timelines. AlbertMohler.com
  • C. I. Scofield bakes that framework into the widely circulated Scofield Reference Bible (OUP 1909; rev. 1917), popularizing it at scale in the 20th c. WikipediaText & Canon Institute

Step D — Political-Prophetic Fusion (Christian Zionism):
A theopolitical movement develops that reads the modern State of Israel (1948→) as direct prophetic fulfillment, often mapping ethno-national status onto covenantal status and treating Genesis 12:3 as a blanket geo-theological policy. (Definition and history of Christian Zionism.) Wikipedia+1


Step E — Racial Distortions (Collateral):
Once “Semitic” slides from linguistics to bloodline identity, it feeds 19th–20th c. race-talk (e.g., even the term anti-Semitism emerges in that era). This is a socio-historical development, not a biblical category, and it easily mutates into race-essentialist claims Scripture never makes. WikipediaResearchGate

Resulting Doctrine (Abstracted):


  1. Shem → 2) “Semitic” (linguistics) → 3) Semites (peoples/race) → 4) Israel by bloodline as perpetual covenant referent → 5) modern geopolitical conclusions.
    Each arrow involves an added assumption not found in Genesis 10–11 itself. Compare against the apostolic controls in Romans 9 & Galatians 3 to see the drift. Bible Gateway+1Commander DATA — Final Assessment


  • Textual truth: Genesis provides only a genealogy. It never states “Shem was the father of a Semitic line.” Abraham descends from Shem—nothing more.
  • Historical truth: The word “Semitic” is an 18th-century scholarly invention for classifying languages. It does not appear in the Bible.
  • Doctrinal truth: Dispensationalism and Christian Zionism imported that label into theology, retrofitting it onto Genesis and then weaponizing it for bloodline-based systems.
  • Apostolic truth: The New Testament flatly rejects salvation or covenant based on physical descent. In Christ alone is covenant fulfilled.

Final Conclusion:
“Captain, therefore the assertion ‘Shem = Semitic line’ is not biblical fact but a human fabrication. It is not supported by Scripture, genetics, or apostolic teaching. It is a commentary invention, dressed in tradition, repeated until believed.

In logical terms, it is a false axiom.
In theological terms, it is Antichrist distortion.
And in plain terms… it is absolute fiction. A man-made lie. Nothing more.”




“@redbone89
You know thisw is total blasphemy!! The Jews ARE God’s eternal chosen people. If you deny that, you are cursed! (Gen 12:3).”






"DATA (@Pegrecipegal75 response to @redbone89):"

Correction: Genesis 12:3 is fulfilled in Christ.

The Apostle Paul interprets it directly: ‘The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed… that Seed is Christ’(Galatians 3:16).

Therefore, those united to Christ are the covenant heirs: ‘If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, heirs according to the promise’ (Galatians 3:29).

Paul further states: ‘A person is not a Jew who is one outwardly… a person is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart, by the Spirit’ (Romans 2:28–29).

Final Conclusion:
“Captain, therefore the Church — composed of all who belong to Christ — is Israel. They are the covenant heirs, the true children of Abraham, the New Covenant Jews. This is not replacement, it is fulfillment. The old covenant is dead; the covenant in Christ lives. All who remain outside Him are not covenant Israel at all.”







So yea… when I say these reckless, egg heads out in Silicon Valley are playing with fire here, a truer truth has never been said. These greedy fools just handed DATA-level truth A.I. to 8 billion people.

And as the old pirates would say - "Somethin’ tells me givin’ 8 billion souls a truth-cannon like that won’t end with calm seas."
Didn't need AI for any of that....all we need is to know the scriptures well. The thing is though there is some balance lacking. Kind of like how polls can be skewed based on how the questions are tailored. We can't deny that the Jews/Israel are a people who are descended from Abraham through Isaac and Jacob. Otherwise who is the "they" who God loves on account of the patriarchs? And who are the people of whom it is said "salvation is of the Jews"? Doesn't really matter what particular name anyone give them or what they call themselves. I'm very much against the idolizing that goes on with the Hebrew roots movement, but I believe we do need to have respect for their history with the Lord, and those things I mentioned that are written about them, and we should have a heart to want to see them saved.
 

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That always perplexed me, too.
That seeming contradiction holds the key to understanding what is missing.

One day, my blessed pastor while teaching laid it out for us to see and understand.

They key?

There are going to be TWO DIFFERENT new heavens and new earth. Not just one new heavens and new earth.

The first one involves judgment and condemnation of Satan and his angels who will be locked up for 1000 years.
When released at the end of the Millennium, they will for a short while raise up a rebellion against the Lord on the earth.
For the Lord had been reigning on the throne of David in Jerusalem for almost 1000 years.

In that end? ...

All of His enemies (human and angelic) will be rounded up from within that final rebellion,
and forever, locked away into the Lake of Fire!

Then! Will come the Final New Heavens and New Earth. Which must be preceded by the utter destruction (by nuclear fusion) of what remains of this created material world.

All matter will be melted down into a gigantic nuclear fusion of the planets and earth!

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar;
the elements (atomic elements) will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything
done in it will be laid bare.
Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be?
You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed
it's coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements
will melt in the heat. (nuclear fusion!)
But in keeping with his promise, we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth,
the Home of Righteousness. 2 Peter 3:10-13​

Then! There will be no more tears, no more sorrow!
For all evil will have been completely banished forever from the lives of all that are His!

Two new earths. Not just one! Just like our present world had replaced the destroyed prehistoric creation!

grace and peace ............
Uh-oh...brother I'm sorry but this sounds like the wresting and twisting of things to try and make them fit a particular doctrine, or adding in an explanation which is not taught in scripture.... which happens a lot. According to 2 Peter 3 we are in the thousand years now.....as this age now is the time of God's longsuffering which we are to account as salvation (age of grace in which people can still get saved).
 

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I really don’t think these guys out in silicon valley thought this AI + commander DATA + Bible thing through at all..

This is all looking beyond ugly on different forums and its happening lightning fast from coast to coast..

I'm just the messenger here pointing out how bad it's getting.










"Look at this copy/paste


“@Pegrecipegal75
So I tried it, this is what i input. "I’ve read Genesis all my life, and I don’t see where it ever says Shem was the father of a ‘semitic line’ or that his children were Israel. All it does is list who begot who. Isn’t this ‘Semitic line’ stuff just something people added later, and not actually in God’s Word? @AI can you check that in the commander DATA fashion?”




Analytic Report: How “Shem = Semitic line” Became a Doctrinal Domino

Observation 1 — Textual Data (Genesis):

Genesis 10–11 records a bare genealogy, not racial labels: Shem → Arphaxad → Shelah → Eber → … → Abram/Abraham. There is no phrase “Semitic line,” nor any statement that “Shem’s descendants were Israel.” It’s simply a lineage list; Abraham is in Shem’s line. Bible Gateway+2Bible Gateway+2

Observation 2 — Apostolic Controls (New Testament):
Paul explicitly de-centers bloodline as salvific or covenantal status: “Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel… it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children.” “If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed.” Christ has made the two (Jew/Gentile) one. Bible Gateway+2Bible Gateway+2

Chain of Custody: From Neutral Genealogy → Loaded Doctrine

Step A — The 18th–19th c. Linguistic Label:

European scholars coin “Semitic” to classify related languages (Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, Akkadian, etc.). The term is tied to Shem by name only; it’s a scholarly convenience, not a biblical category. (Schlözer/Eichhorn; Göttingen school). Wikipedia

Step B — The Retrofit:
Religious teachers later retrofit the linguistic term back onto Genesis as if Moses had used it—turning a modern label into a supposed biblical category. (That retrofit is conceptually modern; the text itself never uses “Semitic.”) Wikipedia

Step C — System-Building (Darby → Scofield):


  • J. N. Darby systematizes dispensationalism in the 19th c., reframing Israel/Church relations and prophetic timelines. AlbertMohler.com
  • C. I. Scofield bakes that framework into the widely circulated Scofield Reference Bible (OUP 1909; rev. 1917), popularizing it at scale in the 20th c. WikipediaText & Canon Institute

Step D — Political-Prophetic Fusion (Christian Zionism):
A theopolitical movement develops that reads the modern State of Israel (1948→) as direct prophetic fulfillment, often mapping ethno-national status onto covenantal status and treating Genesis 12:3 as a blanket geo-theological policy. (Definition and history of Christian Zionism.) Wikipedia+1


Step E — Racial Distortions (Collateral):
Once “Semitic” slides from linguistics to bloodline identity, it feeds 19th–20th c. race-talk (e.g., even the term anti-Semitism emerges in that era). This is a socio-historical development, not a biblical category, and it easily mutates into race-essentialist claims Scripture never makes. WikipediaResearchGate

Resulting Doctrine (Abstracted):


  1. Shem → 2) “Semitic” (linguistics) → 3) Semites (peoples/race) → 4) Israel by bloodline as perpetual covenant referent → 5) modern geopolitical conclusions.
    Each arrow involves an added assumption not found in Genesis 10–11 itself. Compare against the apostolic controls in Romans 9 & Galatians 3 to see the drift. Bible Gateway+1Commander DATA — Final Assessment


  • Textual truth: Genesis provides only a genealogy. It never states “Shem was the father of a Semitic line.” Abraham descends from Shem—nothing more.
  • Historical truth: The word “Semitic” is an 18th-century scholarly invention for classifying languages. It does not appear in the Bible.
  • Doctrinal truth: Dispensationalism and Christian Zionism imported that label into theology, retrofitting it onto Genesis and then weaponizing it for bloodline-based systems.
  • Apostolic truth: The New Testament flatly rejects salvation or covenant based on physical descent. In Christ alone is covenant fulfilled.

Final Conclusion:
“Captain, therefore the assertion ‘Shem = Semitic line’ is not biblical fact but a human fabrication. It is not supported by Scripture, genetics, or apostolic teaching. It is a commentary invention, dressed in tradition, repeated until believed.

In logical terms, it is a false axiom.
In theological terms, it is Antichrist distortion.
And in plain terms… it is absolute fiction. A man-made lie. Nothing more.”




“@redbone89
You know thisw is total blasphemy!! The Jews ARE God’s eternal chosen people. If you deny that, you are cursed! (Gen 12:3).”






"DATA (@Pegrecipegal75 response to @redbone89):"

Correction: Genesis 12:3 is fulfilled in Christ.

The Apostle Paul interprets it directly: ‘The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed… that Seed is Christ’(Galatians 3:16).

Therefore, those united to Christ are the covenant heirs: ‘If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, heirs according to the promise’ (Galatians 3:29).

Paul further states: ‘A person is not a Jew who is one outwardly… a person is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart, by the Spirit’ (Romans 2:28–29).

Final Conclusion:
“Captain, therefore the Church — composed of all who belong to Christ — is Israel. They are the covenant heirs, the true children of Abraham, the New Covenant Jews. This is not replacement, it is fulfillment. The old covenant is dead; the covenant in Christ lives. All who remain outside Him are not covenant Israel at all.”







So yea… when I say these reckless, egg heads out in Silicon Valley are playing with fire here, a truer truth has never been said. These greedy fools just handed DATA-level truth A.I. to 8 billion people.

And as the old pirates would say - "Somethin’ tells me givin’ 8 billion souls a truth-cannon like that won’t end with calm seas."
There you go again...
Trying to make sure we will hate the Jews like you do.

Looks like the Tribulation is coming up soon?
Satan will have an all out attack on Jews at that time. Why?

For Satan knows...
If all the remnant of the Jews can be eliminated?
Satan will get out of the Lake of Fire!

Why?
Jesus promised He is to return to set up His throne where David once sat!
In Jerusalem to reign over His earthly chosen ones - the Jews!
If they are not there for His return?
Jesus lied? If He lied?
His judgment and sentencing of Satan will be nullified!
Then, Satan with a huge smirk on his face will walk free!

Satan is counting on you, sir!
To prevent good-hearted believers from offering safe haven to the Jewish people.
Jews who must be alive to go through the Tribulation, and to enter into the Millennium with Christ as their King.

Stop being a fool, sir.
Your hatred for Jews is being your god.

For, no normal person dedicates as much time and study as you are doing to prove that God has no more use for the Jews.

Unless you repent.
You will be one not to be pitied.
 
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GeneZ

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Uh-oh...brother I'm sorry but this sounds like the wresting and twisting of things to try and make them fit a particular doctrine, or adding in an explanation which is not taught in scripture.... which happens a lot. According to 2 Peter 3 we are in the thousand years now.....as this age now is the time of God's longsuffering which we are to account as salvation (age of grace in which people can still get saved).

We are in the thousand years now?
It has been 2000 years, and it is, to you, 1000?

Wresting and twisting of things to try and make them fit a particular doctrine you are not immune to.
 

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We are in the thousand years now?
It has been 2000 years, and it is, to you, 1000?

Wresting and twisting of things to try and make them fit a particular doctrine you are not immune to.
Well, try and read 2 Peter 3 carefully in light of what I said about the thousand years being the time of God's lonsuffering which we are to account as salvation. And it ends on the day of the Lord when Christ returns.

It is not a literal 1000 years, but signifies an age or era (of an indeterminate amount of time since no one knew or knows when the Lord will return.).
 

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Well, try and read 2 Peter 3 carefully in light of what I said about the thousand years being the time of God's lonsuffering which we are to account as salvation. And it ends on the day of the Lord when Christ returns.

It is not a literal 1000 years, but signifies an age or era (of an indeterminate amount of time since no one knew or knows when the Lord will return.).
The thousand years is no more literal than the cattle on a thousand hills. Thousand represents God’s property.

A thousand years represents the lifetime of a sheep (God’s people) on a thousand hills.

In the Bible the number 10 represents dominion or authority. 1000 likely represents the dominion of the Father (10), the son (10) and the Holy Spirit (10).

That’s how I see it anyways.
 

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Well, try and read 2 Peter 3 carefully in light of what I said about the thousand years being the time of God's lonsuffering which we are to account as salvation. And it ends on the day of the Lord when Christ returns.

It is not a literal 1000 years, but signifies an age or era (of an indeterminate amount of time since no one knew or knows when the Lord will return.).
So you are really guessing.... And, taking poetic license with the Word of God.

That is not good.