Contending with the devil

[marks]

As I said, you are entitled to your opinions, but I am not interested in opinions, I am focused on understanding the truth and how to reconcile it with the Word. If you were genuinely interested in seeking God's Truth, you would not be quoting Scripture and implying a Creed written 300 years after the fact.

You and your creeds! You can't seem to get away from it. Is this the only way you have to deny what's being shared with you?

If you were genuinely interested in seeking God's Truth,

Listen to you!

I'm here for serious discussion. I'm finding a desert instead. Pity!

Much love!

 

[Hiddenthings]

Jesus said it.
He saw Satan fall.

Rather than reply with a bunch of personal opinions try reading the text and context.

What was the adversary that fell "like" lightening?

 

[Behold]

Rather than reply with a bunch of personal opinions try reading the text and context.

I posted scripture for you, then explained them, and not just once.

What was the adversary that fell "like" lightening?

Satan, is the "adversary".

See, Malachi defines the Devil as our "Adversary"... and some bible verses say that the "Adversary" fell from Heaven.
Most say "Satan" fell.
Jesus described his fall as "like lightning"....... = in the blink of an eye.

Isaiah described Satan as "Lucifer who = Fell from heaven. (Isaiah 14:12).

Lucifer Fell.
Satan Fell.

(The Devil).

 

[Hiddenthings]

I posted scripture for you, then explained them, and not just once.

I'll leave you to it I think Behold - I'd hoped you would understand the context and how Luke is using a simile but for some reason if the text was blue you can only see red.

 

[Behold]

I'll leave you to it I think Behold - I'd hoped you would understand the context and how Luke is using a simile but for some reason if the text was blue you can only see red.

I'll leave the members to "think" about the posts i wrote to you.

See you there.

 

[Hiddenthings]

The text does not actually state that Satan was in heaven, nor that he literally fell from heaven. Rather, Jesus uses a simile “as.” The comparison is not that Satan fell from heaven in the same way lightning does, but that Satan’s defeat was as sudden and as striking as lightning flashing from the sky.

The context makes this clear: Jesus is speaking about the casting out of demons, not the fall of a rebellious angel (v. 17).

The word Satan (Greek: “adversary”) is used by Jesus to describe the binding power of sin, often seen in disease. Several passages illustrate this:

• Luke 11:14–23 — A mute man, described as demon-possessed (v. 14), is said to be bound within the “house” of Satan (vv. 17–18). His healing is then described as the arrival of the kingdom of God, because the King’s power had broken through (vv. 20–22).
• Luke 13:10–17 — A woman crippled for eighteen years is said to have “a spirit of infirmity” (v. 11). Yet Jesus also describes her as “a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has bound these eighteen years” (v. 16).

In this way, the victory of the seventy over demons was really the dethronement of Satan — the adversary — in his “house.” Their cures were so complete and immediate that Jesus likened the fall of Satan to the sudden flash of lightning.

Still, Jesus redirects their joy. Rather than rejoicing in their power over demons, they were to rejoice that their names were written in heaven (Luke 10:20).

 

[Behold]

The text does not actually state that Satan was in heaven,

How did Satan fall from Heaven, (according to Jesus) if He was not there?

Ive already asked you 2x to prove that Satan was not created in Heaven, and was created on earth.

Still waiting. @Hiddenthings


Have you ever seen an "Ark of the Covenant"?

Satan , as a being, (Lucifer) (The Devil) is exactly like one of the Cherubs, that you see on the Ark.
He was that Type of "Heavenly Host", before he was cast out of Heaven.
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[Behold]

The text does not actually state that Satan was in heaven, nor that he literally fell from heaven.

You can't "fall from heaven", unless you're in it.

1.) Jesus said... """""I beheld Satan as lightning fall = from Heaven"


Let me try it this way for you @Hiddenthings ...

Jesus is from Heaven.. He is the "Bread who came down FROM HEAVEN".

Notice.... = "FROM Heaven".

Jesus explains it like this....>"""""I AM FROM ABOVE, and you are FROM BELOW".

So, when Jesus said that Satan fell = FROM HEAVEN......that's what He means.

 

[Hiddenthings]

How did Satan fall from Heaven, (according to Jesus) if He was not there?

No