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[amigo de christo]

I agree that those who have heard the Gospel, and consciously rejected Jesus Christ, are lost.

The question remains about the billions who have lived and died and not heard the Gospel, in the 2000 years since Jesus preached to the souls in prison?

i suggest rather than us trying to figure out what comes upon those who never heard
that we rather do as paul and others did . PREACH JESUS .
Satan has a way of trying to bring confusion so as to bring a lie . AND we sure do not want to entertain
his ways and tatics .
IF we are so concerned for the lost , AS WE SHOULD BE , then i have a suggestion .
GOD IS IN CONTROL . let us simply preach the truth of the g opsel to all that do have breath .
He knocked paul right off his own horse . And flipped paul around .
LET us , rather than trying to figure it ALL OUT , simply preach JESUS to them .
AS did the early church .

 

[amigo de christo]

Believers who belong to Christ

and the winnder is , WHO ME . spot on right my friend . spot on right .

 

[amigo de christo]

What is the "sheepfold"?

who me and myself answered this . How about a response my friend .

 

[markalan]

it one never did then i can only guess that JESUS would have done for them what HE DID for the lost souls in noahs day .

BG, was also "guessing" and he based his opinion on Romans 2:14-16

For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another, In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.​

 

[markalan]

who me and myself answered this . How about a response my friend .

I can agree with both comments ... some say the "sheepfold" means the kingdom of God ... but we know Abraham, Isaac & Jacob are in the kingdom of God but they never knew about Jesus.

 

[amigo de christo]

BG, was also "guessing" and he based his opinion on Romans 2:14-16

For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another, In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.​

they are dead wrong too .
YOu do realize JUST WHO those g entiles were that paul was talking about right .
I mean the man totally says that no man can be justified b y the law .
AND the entire NEW covenant iN JESUS was the one wherein the laws would be wrote upon the beleivers heart .
No jew , thus NO GENTILE can attain to the righteousness of law , WITHOUT FAITH IN HE WHO GOD DID SEND .
now that is a fact friend .
THEY twisted this to us as a lie . THEY mean it to mean SOMEHOW even unbelieving GENTILES
have the law wrote on their hearts . OH NO THEY DONT .
NOT even the unbelieving JEW DOES . the new covenant , THE ONE ESTABLISHED BY GOD , BY HIS CHRIST
BY THIS JESUS CHRIST , its the one who WRITES this upon our hearts , UPON the heart of the believer
who be sealed by THE HOLY GHOST WHO DOES SO .
we got lied too my friend . But unlike many i do read my bible and simply have loved to do so for many many
years now every day and with others too . THE MORE WE READ IT
the more things do come together. WHICH is also why i been begging folks for years to get back INTO the bible .

 

[amigo de christo]

I can agree with both comments ... some say the "sheepfold" means the kingdom of God ... but we know Abraham, Isaac & Jacob are in the kingdom of God but they never knew about Jesus.

Oh but they did know . Abraham REJOICED TO SEE MY DAY and HE SAW IT and was GLAD .
you would marvel at what the prophets knew my friend .
Have you ever read about jacobs dream . The one wherein The heavens are opened
and HE sees this great LADDER that connectes HEAVEN TO EARTH with angels ascending and descending upon it .
And now a word .
YE believe because i told you i saw you under that tree ,
But ye shall see far greater miracles than these
YE SHALL SEE the heavens opened and the angels ascending and descending upon THE SON OF MAN .
WHO ya THINK that ladder was JACOB saw . JESUS quoate this to nathenile.
SEE i did tell us i do read that bible a whole lot . That too was a gift from GOD
seeing HE put the love for TRUTH upon my heart and such a love for reading that bible daily it has been .

 

[amigo de christo]

I can agree with both comments ... some say the "sheepfold" means the kingdom of God ... but we know Abraham, Isaac & Jacob are in the kingdom of God but they never knew about Jesus.

The more we read and enjoy and love to read that bible the more things will come together .
YE would marvel at how much OF the old testament , the prophets , even moses , even abraham
even in the earliest of g enesis THINGS POINTED to H E WHO WOULD COME . JESUS THE GLORIOUS CHRIST .
feel free to ask questions my freind . I am not the hater or monster most think or believe me to be .
I TRULY only desire GOOD for the peoples .

 

[WHO ME]

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It is true that we cannot come into a fully personal relationship with God except through Jesus Christ.

"Coming to the Father" is not about going to heaven ..it is about our relationship with God here and now.

The issue is what happens at the final judgement ... which we read about in Matthew 25 and Revelation 20... that is when all people who were not born again are judged ... and both Matthew 25 & Revelation 20 talk about "works".

Yes my post in ? I think Forgiving others is all about works... James btw is the works champion in chapter 2....

 

[WHO ME]

In John 5:46 He explained to some religious leaders who had challenged Him that the Old Testament was talking about Him: “If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.”

 

[markalan]

they are dead wrong too .
YOu do realize JUST WHO those g entiles were that paul was talking about right .
I mean the man totally says that no man can be justified b y the law .
AND the entire NEW covenant iN JESUS was the one wherein the laws would be wrote upon the beleivers heart .
No jew , thus NO GENTILE can attain to the righteousness of law , WITHOUT FAITH IN HE WHO GOD DID SEND .
now that is a fact friend .
THEY twisted this to us as a lie . THEY mean it to mean SOMEHOW even unbelieving GENTILES
have the law wrote on their hearts . OH NO THEY DONT .
NOT even the unbelieving JEW DOES . the new covenant , THE ONE ESTABLISHED BY GOD , BY HIS CHRIST
BY THIS JESUS CHRIST , its the one who WRITES this upon our hearts , UPON the heart of the believer
who be sealed by THE HOLY GHOST WHO DOES SO .
we got lied too my friend . But unlike many i do read my bible and simply have loved to do so for many many
years now every day and with others too . THE MORE WE READ IT
the more things do come together. WHICH is also why i been begging folks for years to get back INTO the bible .

No person is saved by keeping the Law of Moses since Jesus died and rose again.today.

Paul is talking about gentiles who are judged by "conscience" ... they are not Christian believers.

 

[amigo de christo]

No person is saved by keeping the Law of Moses since Jesus died and rose again.today.

Paul is talking about gentiles who are judged by "conscience" ... they are not Christian believers.

nope . i already know none are saved by the keeping of the law .
but you obviously do not understand the new co venant . The law writ ten upon their hearts
cometh BY FAITH IN JESUS . you do realize that the true love of GOD and not that love of the world ,
actually would fullfill the Righteousness of the law .
My best guess is you learned this of men .