Is it possible to lose salvation?

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You'll be waiting a long time to do that.

When you attempt,and fail,to pervert the true Gospel you don't love Jesus.
You will be careful for awhile but ill catch you soon. if you are very careful not to contradict Christs words maybe it will change you. Who knows.

But the thing is you will do so unknowingly. I do not believe you would do this otherwise.
 

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Yes, it is possible to lose our salvation. Ezekiel 18 tells us that the righteous can by sinning and turning away from God and not repenting.

All sin has been taken care of by Jesus, regarding a born again believer.

See The Cross of Christ as the reason why.

= right here..

A.) "Jesus is the ONE TIME......Eternal Sacrifice ........for sin".
 

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Yes, it is possible to lose our salvation. Ezekiel 18 tells us that the righteous can by sinning and turning away from God and not repenting.
yes and here the verse confirming it;

Ezk 18:24 But if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and practices iniquity, committing the same abominations as the wicked, will he live? None of the righteous acts he did will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness and sin he has committed, he will die.

Ezekiel 18 serves as a good reference point to do God's will also;

Ezk 18:4 Behold, every soul belongs to Me; both father and son are Mine. The soul who sins is the one who will die.
Ezk 18:5 Now suppose a man is righteous and does what is just and right:
Ezk 18:6 He does not eat at the mountain or look to the idols of the house of Israel. He does not defile his neighbor’s wife or approach a woman during her period.
Ezk 18:7 He does not oppress another, but restores the pledge to the debtor. He does not commit robbery, but gives his bread to the hungry and covers the naked with clothing.
Ezk 18:8 He does not engage in usury or take excess interest, but he withholds his hand from iniquity and executes true justice between men.
Ezk 18:9 He follows My statutes and faithfully keeps My ordinances. That man is righteous; surely he will live, declares the Lord GOD.

thank you for the post!
 

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yes and here the verse confirming it;

Ezk 18:24 But if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and practices iniquity, committing the same abominations as the wicked, will he live?

No one in the OT is born again.
So, after the New Covenant was created by the Blood of Jesus, then once a sinner is forgiven, then Heaven is their eternal Home.

Its SIN that was separating us from God, since Adam..........and because "God hath made Jesus to be sin for us".....then this takes care of our sin issue, which is why all the born again are found "In Christ" as "one with God".
 

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You have no excuse. Can you or can. You not show that your understanding of Scripture is the authoritative understanding? Yes or no? Can you show evidence that the church taught anywhere what you believe before the 1500s? Yes or no? Show proof of either and I will.hsventi reconsider my position otherwise you're just noise.

Matt 5:29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell.

Matt 5:30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.

Do you think that like John 6, Jesus spoke literally?

That you only have to tear out your right eye, and not your left eye and keep sinning after all ?

Do you still have 2 eyes and 2 hands my literal friend ?
 
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Lol.....YOU are listening to Jesus however YOU reject the teachings of the Apostolic Fathers who were students of the Apostles!! Simply fascinating! @nedsk and I repeat words from Scripture which match up with the words from students of the Apostles and you say that WE are rejecting Jesus words? You put greater value on the words of men from 500 years than the words of men who were students of the Apostles.....I don't get it.

I am going to quote you from one of your pompous posts: Let me try to help you

Clearly @nedsk and I don't need your help. We choose to adhere to Scripture and trust men that actually spoke to the Apostles instead of trusting men like you.

Keeping it real with logic and facts.......Mary

You have chosen to believe that at Jesus last supper with the twelve as described in the Gospels, He put his body in the bread.... how?? and his blood in the cup. AND BOTH DID NOT HAPPEN. It was normal bread Jesus gave the twelve and normal wine in the cup. And what you have chosen to believe in the Eucharist (Jesus body showing up in the host and some of His blood (or all ??) in cup the was never mentioned in any of the Epistles.

Give it up.
 
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You will be careful for awhile but ill catch you soon. if you are very careful not to contradict Christs words maybe it will change you. Who knows.

But the thing is you will do so unknowingly. I do not believe you would do this otherwise.
When you misrepresent the Gospel and make it a works based slander of the actual teachings of our Lord,the only thing you'll be catching is a swift one way ticket to the abyss.
 

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Yes, it is possible to lose our salvation. Ezekiel 18 tells us that the righteous can by sinning and turning away from God and not repenting.
Old Testament.

Not at all in alignment with what Jesus taught.

I don't think those who insist we can revoke what God said is irrevocable actually realize what they're telling readers of their ideology.


Which is that they can lose Salvation. And as long as they live and feel that way,they're right.


However,that is not the Gospel of Christ. It is not the Salvation I am graced with, not that of the other Sealed Christians here. And can never be.

Because it is not the Covenant Jesus died to deal with his blood and for the purpose of his Elect.
 

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Abraham was saved in Gen 15. David was called a man after Gods own heart.

you declairing they were not saved is actually an insult to the very God who saved them..
You won't reach those who are self serving on their belief system. That one is the one Love Y.was referring to as twisting the Gospel.

And indeed it is well known.
 
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No one in the OT is born again.
So, after the New Covenant was created by the Blood of Jesus, then once a sinner is forgiven, then Heaven is their eternal Home.

Its SIN that was separating us from God, since Adam..........and because "God hath made Jesus to be sin for us".....then this takes care of our sin issue, which is why all the born again are found "In Christ" as "one with God".
Behold, come on, GOd's word is timeless do not affix it a label to it. You know very well God does NOT change
When you misrepresent the Gospel and make it a works based slander of the actual teachings of our Lord,the only thing you'll be catching is a swift one way ticket to the abyss.
Here we go, I can prove to you go against Christ first post to me... you do not even know why. Is is late here but ill catch you tomorrow in the meantime read the bible specifically the words of Jesus that you have forgotten, you have a lot to learn. i will tell you tomorrow the verses you neglected.
 

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Old Testament.

Not at all in alignment with what Jesus taught.

I don't think those who insist we can revoke what God said is irrevocable actually realize what they're telling readers of their ideology.


Which is that they can lose Salvation. And as long as they live and feel that way,they're right.


However,that is not the Gospel of Christ. It is not the Salvation I am graced with, not that of the other Sealed Christians here. And can never be.

Because it is not the Covenant Jesus died to deal with his blood and for the purpose of his Elect.
Do you think you are the elect? Panda?
 
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You won't reach those who are self serving on their belief system. That one is the one Love Y.was referring to as twisting the Gospel.

And indeed it is well known.
My belief system as you call are the words of Christ yours is?
 

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Do you think you are the elect? Panda?
Every one here who knows Jesus said we receive the free irrevocable gift of Salvation,eternal life,by the grace of God, it is not of ourselves so that we may not boast, know we are his Elect.

While conversley,those who boast they chose to believe,need to work to stay saved, and can lose their salvation,are not.

Just as God said.

It's God's words. Fools try to speak contrary to what he ordained before the foundation of the world.
 

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No one in the OT is born again.
So, after the New Covenant was created by the Blood of Jesus, then once a sinner is forgiven, then Heaven is their eternal Home.

Its SIN that was separating us from God, since Adam..........and because "God hath made Jesus to be sin for us".....then this takes care of our sin issue, which is why all the born again are found "In Christ" as "one with God".

You are as blind as the present Israelites who will not accept the New Testament and that Jesus is written about in the Old Testament and is the Son of God.

Ezekiel 18 tells us that if a righteous person, whether a devote Jew or a Christian sins and turns away from God, if he will not repent of sin of turning away from God, he will die the second death.

So, the true answer is that if you turn away from God's righteousness, then you will lose your salvation.
 
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Old Testament.

Not at all in alignment with what Jesus taught.

I don't think those who insist we can revoke what God said is irrevocable actually realize what they're telling readers of their ideology.


Which is that they can lose Salvation. And as long as they live and feel that way,they're right.


However, that is not the Gospel of Christ. It is not the Salvation I am graced with, not that of the other Sealed Christians here. And can never be.

Because it is not the Covenant Jesus died to deal with his blood and for the purpose of his Elect.

Did not Jesus tell the disciples an the others listening to Him, that they should not grieve the Holy Spirit as the Holy Spirit coud not forgive them of their sin.
 

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You are as blind as the present Israelites who will not accept the New Testament and that Jesus is written about in the Old Testament and is the Son of God.

Ezekiel 18 tells us that if a righteous person, whether a devote Jew or a Christian sins and turns away from God, if he will not repent of sin of turning away from God, he will die the second death.

So, the true answer is that if you turn away from God's righteousness, then you will lose your salvation.
That is Old Testament. And pertains to the Jews of that time.

Ezekiel 18 emphasizes individual responsibility for sin, stating that each person is accountable for their own actions rather than inheriting guilt from their parents. It teaches that the soul who sins will die, but those who turn from their wickedness and follow God's laws will live.

 

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No, it doesn't.

I was quoting the scripture from memory, and it was close enough. Here are some verses on this subject: -

Matthew 12:31-32: - The Unpardonable Sin
(Mark 3:28-30)
31 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.​
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Mark 3:28-30: - The Unpardonable Sin
(Matt 12:31,32; Luke 12:10)
28 "Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; 29 but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation" — 30 because they said, "He has an unclean spirit."​
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Luke 12:8-12: - Confess Christ Before Men
(Matt 10:32,33)
8 "Also I say to you, whoever confesses Me before men, him the Son of Man also will confess before the angels of God. 9 But he who denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God.​
10 "And anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven.​
11 "Now when they bring you to the synagogues and magistrates and authorities, do not worry about how or what you should answer, or what you should say. 12 For the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say."​
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Is Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit a sin?
 
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