Davy
Well-Known Member
Wrong. The symbolic woman of Revelation 12:1 is about Old Testament and... New Testament ISRAEL. It was Joseph who was given the dream of those symbols of Genesis 37 about his 11 brethren as symbolic "stars" and his mother and father as symbols of the "sun" and "moon"...
Rev 12:1-2
12 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
KJV
Gen 37:9-10
9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, "Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me."
10 And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, "What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?"
KJV
Your Jewish teaching has kept this away from you about Joseph who was separated from his eleven brethren, with them all joined back together eventually. God's Birthright was transferred from Jacob to Joseph, and that is why Jacob treated Joseph as blessed over his eleven brethren. The dream above given Joseph confirms that upon him God's Birthright dwelt. This also is why 1 Chronicles 5 shows God's Birthright then would go from Joseph to his two sons Ephraim and Manasseh, the two sons born to Joseph while separated in Egypt. And unto Ephraim, his seed was to become "a multitude of nations", Israelite nations, since Jacob said there to let his name Israel being named upon the two lads.
Ephraim became the 12th tribe after his father Joseph, and Manasseh became the unwritten 13th tribe of Israel. And they became the 'other' Israel that your Jewish leaders have hidden from you. They represent the lost ten tribes that migrated out of Assyria and into Asia Minor and Europe, and are the true lost sheep of the "house of Israel", and created the western Christian nations, being the first nations on national scales to accept The Gospel of Jesus Christ. And that while even still to this day, the majority of Jews around the world still reject Jesus of Nazareth as The Messiah of The Bible.
Thus the reality is, even today, that the "multitude of nations" under Ephraim and Manasseh, STILL REIGN over their brethren, the scattered 12 tribes, and over their symbolic father and mother, just as Joseph's dream revealed how it would be. Now if you don't understand that there are TWO separate ISRAELS today per God's Word, then you should study the Ezekiel 37 Chapter about the two symbolic sticks of Israel being put back together in final in the future when Jesus returns.
Thus the symbolic "woman" of the latter Revelation 12:17 verse IS... about New Testament Israel, Christ's Church today, represented by Joseph's symbolic dream of Genesis 37. ONLY those of Christ's Church have The Testimony of Jesus Christ, i.e., The Gospel. The majority of the unbelieving part of Israel (Jews) does not have The Gospel, but still rejects Jesus to this day. With the future time of "great tribulation", it will mainly be the Israel represented by Christ's Church today that "dragon" will seek to go after, because the majority of today's Jews are still deceived away from The Gospel. That's why the unbelieving Jews will setup the coming "man of sin"/Antichrist instead of... Messiah in a 3rd temple in Jerusalem at the end of this world.
