Is it possible to lose salvation?

[Dan Clarkston]

A word to the wise for the cult followers....

Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God proves true; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words, lest He rebuke you and you be found a liar.

 

[nedsk]

God's Word actually does say the scripture is THE Source of Truth

2 Timothy 3:16,17
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Godly doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness can ONLY be found in God's written Word.
The Lord clearly indicates that only scripture is given by inspiration of God.

If the Lord wanted us to look to false sources of so called "truth" he would have said tune in to the pope, or the calvinists, or whatever cult you belong to. Instead the Lord warns in His Word not to follow false doctrine

The old devil enjoys hearing that people think there is Truth to be found outside of God's Word because it keep the door open for him to deliver deception to people which is how catholics and reformed theology came to be.... it is inspired by satan.

Thats not only

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Thats not only

That's what the false teachers being led by the devil keep claiming

This is like the folks that claim being gay is OK because Jesus never specifically mentioned anything about being gay.

He didn't have to!

He defined marriage as being between one man and one woman, so anything outside of that definition is not accepted by the Lord.

This is the same.... Godly doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness can ONLY be found in God's written Word.

Of course those that have been indoctrinated to follow false religious systems cannot understand because they have been turned over to a reprobate mind and are not longer teachable due to their embracing doctrines of demons not found in God's Word.

 

[nedsk]

That's what the false teachers being led by the devil keep claiming View attachment 70084

So in the earliest days of the church before your patriarch Luther arrived where was the holy Spirit for 1500 years?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

So in the earliest days of the church before your patriarch Luther arrived where was the holy Spirit for 1500 years?

I'm not a follower of luther or calvin... they are both heretics just like the catholics.

None of what the religious organizations teach was taught by Jesus, His Apostles, or the early church.

The Holy Ghost was right where He always is... waiting on someone to take God at His Word and act on it.

 

[nedsk]

I'm not a follower of luther or calvin... they are both heretics just like the catholics.

None of what the religious organizations teach was taught by Jesus, His Apostles, or the early church.

The Holy Ghost was right where He always is... waiting on someone to take God at His Word and act on it.

Oh course you are. For 1500 years the only church that can even begin to trace it's history back to the apostles wasnt teaching any of the nonsense you believe.

You ever going to at least try and show that your understanding of Scripture is the authoritative one?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Oh course you are. For 1500 years the only church that can even begin to trace it's history back to the apostles wasnt teaching any of the nonsense you believe.

You ever going to at least try and show that your understanding of Scripture is the authoritative one?

The reprobate have been turned over to their false religious devices.

In the end, the catholics and the reformed theology followers will not be found in God's Kingdom.

The Lord has strict immigration policies and the reformed and the catholics won't be offered citizenship do to following heresy

 

[nedsk]

The reprobate have been turned over to their false religious devices.

In the end, the catholics and the reformed theology followers will not be found in God's Kingdom.

The Lord has strict immigration policies and the reformed and the catholics won't be offered citizenship do to following heresy

This is all in your head huh? You decide who will and will not be "offered citizenship". LOL what you think doesn't matter, you get that right?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

what you think doesn't matter, you get that right?

Those following doctrine not coming from the Lord are the ones that won't matter in the end.... they'll be burning in the eternal fire.

Heresy is on God's list of things that cause them to be rejected.

 

[nedsk]

Those following doctrine not coming from the Lord are the ones that won't matter in the end.... they'll be burning in the eternal fire.

Heresy is on God's list of things that cause them to be rejected.

Like all the stuff you espouse. A church existed for 1500 years prior to the appearance of the loony little monk, your patriarch. You're argument is the Holy Spirit promised by Jesus to guide that church in the truth and that the netherworld will never prevail against it, abandoned it's duty. For 1500 years that church didn't teach faith alone or Scripture alone. It taught Jesus is fully present in the Eucharist, but Dan says...nah

 

[Davy]

I never made the claim my name was in there so why would I need to show evidence that it is?

Because that is an example of the 'kind'... of question you asked. Like if we don't see a 'direct statement' written about a thing, then it means the matter is not covered in God's Word. That's shallow reasoning, simply because God's Word at times gives metaphors for real things without actually naming the thing. So how can one know what is being talked about in His Word with metaphors that are written, because they are not always explained in detail. Try Isaiah 54 about the barren woman for example.

 

[GodsGrace]

Lol...Case closed??

You quote men who lived roughly 500 years ago, and you accept their interpretation (writings) of Scripture. Would you accept the writings of men who lived 2,000 years ago?

Oh what a most lovely point !
But, alas, some do not understand this....
including mailmandan....

Yes ma'am....
better to believe some guy from a few hundred years ago
than
Those that were taught by THE APOSTLES and who DIED FOR THEIR FAITH.

Yes. Something is amiss in the Christian religion.

Ignatius of Antioch, who was a student of the Apostle John wrote, “Take note of those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ which has come to us, and see how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God. . . . They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in his goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes” (Letter to the Smyrnaeans 6:2–7:1 [A.D. 110]).​

Who is more believable? The men you quoted who lived 500 years ago or less OR a student of an Apostle?

I look forward to your response.........Mary

Mary,,,as we both know the response from @mailmandan will be that Ignatius of Antioch was NOT INSPIRED.
(no matter that he was a student of Peter and John).

BUT

Dontcha know...

John Calvin was inspired !!

Oh the irony!

 

[mailmandan]

Oh what a most lovely point !
But, alas, some do not understand this....
including mailmandan....

Yes ma'am....
better to believe some guy from a few hundred years ago
than
Those that were taught by THE APOSTLES and who DIED FOR THEIR FAITH.

Yes. Something is amiss in the Christian religion.

Mary,,,as we both know the response from @mailmandan will be that Ignatius of Antioch was NOT INSPIRED.
(no matter that he was a student of Peter and John).

BUT

Dontcha know...

John Calvin was inspired !!

Oh the irony!

You can uphold the church fathers as if their writings are infallible if you wish. I'll stick with Scripture. (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

 

[GodsGrace]

You can uphold the church fathers as if their writings are infallible if you wish. I'll stick with Scripture. (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

Yada Yada
Your statement is tiring and boring and ignorant.

John Calvin was infallible I suppose.

Please stop ASSUMING beliefs I do not hold.
You're misrepresenting me.

 

[GodsGrace]

You can uphold the church fathers as if their writings are infallible if you wish. I'll stick with Scripture. (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

And, once again, I was right!

 

[mailmandan]

Yada Yada
Your statement is tiring and boring and ignorant.

John Calvin was infallible I suppose.

Please stop ASSUMING beliefs I do not hold.
You're misrepresenting me.

Were the writings of the church fathers inspired and infallible? NO
Were the writings of John Calvin inspired and infallible? NO
Were the writings of Scripture inspired and infallible? YES.

Agree or disagree?

 

[mailmandan]

And, once again, I was right!

About what?

 

[amigo de christo]

Were the writings of the church fathers inspired and infallible? NO
Were the writings of John Calvin inspired and infallible? NO
Were the writings of Scripture inspired and infallible? YES.

Agree or disagree?

Yes . All men who spoke or taught
should have been tested by what the true apostles , the true and holy scriptures , said .
But many simply trust in other writings as if they are infallible .
Here is the key my friend .
Let us learn the bible well
and from the scrips we test anything man has ever said or ever will say , or write .
But many do not do this .
And even many of the few who claim they do so , STILL have sat under men that twisted the scrips .
AM i saying with upmost urgency that its a madhouse of confusion and delusion within much of christendom today
Am i saying with upmost urgency that even now there are many within christendom that work hand in hand
with even the great and mighty imams and other false religoins
YES I AM . ITS A MASSIVE DELUSION in the house mailman dan
and this delusion is A UNIFYING ONE .
Only it aint UNDER GOD , HIS CHRIST .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yada Yada
Your statement is tiring and boring and ignorant.

John Calvin was infallible I suppose.

Please stop ASSUMING beliefs I do not hold.
You're misrepresenting me.

john calvin was about as infallible as them popes .
THEY WERENT and they did and they still lead this people to their own destruction .
We have no idea what much and many of these leaders within the entire realm of Christendom
have done and now do . They merge all to be as one under that they say is GOD and what they call is love .
ONLY its the dragon my friend . And by means of a very delusion will lead them as one
to the day of their own wailing and destruction .
FOR JESUS IS NOT GOING to BE DENIED .
And if one even says OH I BELEIVE but then implies it was not necesarry As korans and budda statues are kissed
THAT one will wail louder than one who sat in a false relgion .
Because that one USED THE NAME OF JESUS to promote a false love , a lie . Just saying , we better
have no part in this ecumincal interfaith move .

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Let us learn the bible well
and from the scrips we test anything man has ever said or ever will say , or write

Amen!