DID PROPHECY STOP WITH JOHN?

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ScottA

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So in the above shows "as he declared to his servants the prophets", which includes the Gentiles, and following after the verse you point out in Rev 10:7 it speaks of prophesying again after that before all the same here

Rev 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

These prophesying here as well

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Yes, though for lack of understanding, many explain away what was "sealed" and under "restraint" until just before the end, as foretold.

Which is defined or was to be made evident by: "time no longer" (not the end, for it is written as occurring before "the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets", in that order. "Time" or "delay" "no longer" can be understood to mean that there would be no more delay to revealing the mystery of God in full, or that the phrase refers rather to the method by which the restraint is removed. Both are just before the end. Both are true.
 
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God had made Abraham a father of many nations (the Gentiles)

Gen 17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.

Romans 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Gal 3:18 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many;
but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Having fulfilled the second psalm as spoken of here

Acts 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again;
as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

Psalm 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
 
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Yes, though for lack of understanding, many explain away what was "sealed" and under "restraint" until just before the end, as foretold.

I have no idea what you are talking about here
Which is defined or was to be made evident by: "time no longer" (not the end, for it is written as occurring before "the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets", in that order. "Time" or "delay" "no longer" can be understood to mean that there would be no more delay to revealing the mystery of God in full, or that the phrase refers rather to the method by which the restraint is removed. Both are just before the end. Both are true.

That seems reasonable
 

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I have no idea what you are talking about here
Daniel and John both received words that were to be "sealed", and Paul explained that "He who now restrains will continue until He is taken out of the way." That was to be the time of the mystery of God would be finished (fully revealed) as He declared to His servants the prophets. This is that time.
 
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Daniel and John both received words that were to be "sealed", and Paul explained that "He who now restrains will continue until He is taken out of the way." That was to be the time of the mystery of God would be finished (fully revealed) as He declared to His servants the prophets. This is that time.
Eschatology is not my strong point as I have said before, so I cannot say for sure there since there is there are a few mysteries.

But if I follow out the sealing of the book as followed

Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Comparing between these two

Daniel spoke but did not understand

Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not

If what Daniel had spoken was closed and sealed till the time of the end, Jesus says here

Mark 24:15... (whoso readeth, let him understand)

From here

Mark 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)

"Blessed is he that readeth" is at the beginning of Rev here

Rev 1:3 Blessed is "he that readeth", and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

And contrary to the words being sealed (as is shown us in Daniel) it says

Rev 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

Whereas in Rev 10:7 references " in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, (Which would actually be is Rev 11:15) when he shall begin to sound,

Which is when "the mystery of God should be finished"

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

That is the place where the mystery of God should be finished

Rev 10:7... as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Am I catching this correctly? Because it seems to be a bit more reflective of the knowledge of the mystery Paul mentions in Ephes 3:3-7, "That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs" in the words of Rev 11:15 "The kingdoms of this world" becoming the kingdoms of our Lord there.

I have to look at it more closely perhaps, but at first glance that what it appears to be.
 

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Eschatology is not my strong point as I have said before, so I cannot say for sure there since there is there are a few mysteries.

But if I follow out the sealing of the book as followed

Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Comparing between these two

Daniel spoke but did not understand

Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not

If what Daniel had spoken was closed and sealed till the time of the end, Jesus says here

Mark 24:15... (whoso readeth, let him understand)

From here

Mark 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)

"Blessed is he that readeth" is at the beginning of Rev here

Rev 1:3 Blessed is "he that readeth", and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

And contrary to the words being sealed (as is shown us in Daniel) it says

Rev 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

Whereas in Rev 10:7 references " in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, (Which would actually be is Rev 11:15) when he shall begin to sound,

Which is when "the mystery of God should be finished"

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

That is the place where the mystery of God should be finished

Rev 10:7... as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Am I catching this correctly? Because it seems to be a bit more reflective of the knowledge of the mystery Paul mentions in Ephes 3:3-7, "That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs" in the words of Rev 11:15 "The kingdoms of this world" becoming the kingdoms of our Lord there.

I have to look at it more closely perhaps, but at first glance that what it appears to be.
Yes, the scriptures speak of a few different mysteries, but "the mystery of God" in Revelation 10:7 specifically refers to the "finish", of which there is only one regarding the end.
 
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Yes, the scriptures speak of a few different mysteries, but "the mystery of God" in Revelation 10:7 specifically refers to the "finish", of which there is only one regarding the end.
Using just scripture can you link together which things you might be speaking of?
 

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There are many self professed prophets blowing hot air, today!
 

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Using just scripture can you link together which things you might be speaking of?
The angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised up his hand to heaven 6 and swore by Him who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and the things that are in it, the earth and the things that are in it, and the sea and the things that are in it, that there should be delay no longer, 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets. Revelation 10:5-7

The above scripture is fulfilled during this present time--as it was first declared--by Him who lives forever and ever, I now declare it.
 

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Name those you are accusing Jack--or keep your mouth shut.
Better yet, name those you think are true Biblical prophets today. I don't know of any today.
 
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The angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised up his hand to heaven 6 and swore by Him who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and the things that are in it, the earth and the things that are in it, and the sea and the things that are in it, that there should be delay no longer, 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets. Revelation 10:5-7

The above scripture is fulfilled during this present time--as it was first declared--by Him who lives forever and ever, I now declare it.

I posted the same scripture, what I am asking is, concerning the mystery spoken of "in it" (meaning in Rev 10:5-7) as it relates to what he has been previously declared to his servants the prophets (beforehand concerning the same) where would be the link between what was spoken of beforehand (for example) and the link to Rev 11:15 (for example) as it relates to the sounding of the seventh angel between the same.

Like, we have one place (Rev 10:5-7) as you acknowledge, which makes mention of the sounding of the seventh angel (and so I am adding Rev 11:15) but Rev 10:5-7 mentions the mystery of this thing being finished as he also declared to his servants the prophets (beforehand).

So what I was asking for is the links between the same if you can provide them, see what I mean?
 

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I'm too busy studying the Bible, the REAL prophets! So you don't know of any true Biblical prophets today?
Would you call one caught up to the third heaven hearing words unlawful to utter, then returned to declare the times foretold of when the seventh angel is about to sound, that there should be time no longer, and that the mystery of God would be finished as He declared to His servants the prophets, a true Biblical prophet?

@Truly
 

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Would you call one caught up to the third heaven hearing words unlawful to utter, then returned to declare the times foretold of when the seventh angel is about to sound, that there should be time no longer, and that the mystery of God would be finished as He declared to His servants the prophets, a true Biblical prophet?
Whom are you referring to?
 

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"No need to name names." The Word says so.

By the measure you use it will be measured back to you.
No Scripture? No names? Hmm

I'll remind you of your comment: "Name those you are accusing Jack--or keep your mouth shut."
 

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No Scripture? No names? Hmm

I'll remind you of your comment: "Name those you are accusing Jack--or keep your mouth shut."
The words are yours. The quotation marks in my last post was me quoting you--biblically measuring back to you by your own measure.

You're looking in the mirror. Your own accuser.
 

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The words are yours.
Quoting YOU: "Name those you are accusing Jack--or keep your mouth shut."

But YOU EVADED mentioning names. lol
The quotation marks in my last post was me quoting you--biblically measuring back to you by your own measure.

You're looking in the mirror. Your own accuser.
So tell us of some Bible prophets today. Name names! Don't know any? Then as YOU said, "keep your mouth shut".

No Scripture and no names! So you don't even know one prophet of God today? Not a one? Don't worry. God will sort them out!

Deuteronomy 18:20
20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.'

Blood will flow!
 
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