Where Did God Dwell Before He Made the Three Heavens?

[Exegesis]

Where did God dwell before he made the Three Heavens?

I am looking for a verse.

Let's see who has the answer.

 

[David Lamb]

Where did God dwell before he made the Three Heavens?

I am looking for a verse.

Let's see who has the answer.

I don't think we are told. We are told that He "inhabits eternity" by Isaiah:

“For thus says the High and Lofty One Who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy: “I dwell in the high and holy place, With him who has a contrite and humble spirit, To revive the spirit of the humble, And to revive the heart of the contrite ones.” (Isa 57:15 NKJV)

 

[Deleted member 26788]

there is the heavens that are of the earth ,the atmosphere ,then there heavens that all the stars set and then the heaven that's the abode of God . you are asking about something that happens so long ago that we cant even come up with a number that has any comprehension

 

[Nancy]

I have no scripture to give you but, part of Gods character is that He is eternal. Eternal past and future. And given that, wouldn't the third heaven (where God resides) also be without beginning and without end?
Here's something I read in Quora:

"In 2 Corinthians 12:2, the Apostle Paul refers to the "third heaven" when discussing a mystical experience he had. The verse states:

"I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know; God knows."

The concept of the "third heaven" can be understood as follows:

1. Heavenly Realms: In ancient Jewish thought, the heavens were often described in layers. The first heaven is typically seen as the sky or the atmosphere, where birds fly. The second heaven is associated with outer space, where celestial bodies like stars and planets reside. The "third heaven" is understood to be the dwelling place of God, a spiritual realm beyond the physical universe.
2. Mystical Experience: Paul’s reference suggests a profound spiritual experience. He emphasizes that he does not know whether this experience occurred in a physical state or a spiritual one, indicating the transcendent nature of the event.
3. Theological Significance: This passage is often interpreted as an affirmation of the reality of spiritual experiences and the existence of a divine realm. It also serves to highlight Paul's authority and the legitimacy of his apostolic ministry, as he discusses a personal encounter with the divine.

Overall, the "third heaven" symbolizes a deep spiritual reality and the extraordinary nature of Paul's encounter with God."

 

[shepherdsword]

What difference does it make? How will knowing the answer help you?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Where did God dwell before he made the Three Heavens?

Concerning things the Lord does not talk about in His Word,. we should not worry about them.
Because if they were important the Lord would have put them in His Word.

The devil loves to put goody questions like this in people's minds to distract them from studying and learning all the things the Lord did put in His Word... God control what went in to His Word and therein we can find all the things He wants and needs for us to know.

2 Timothy 2:23
But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strife.

These sort of questions generals strife and division between those asking and the Lord.

 

[ScottA]

Where did God dwell before he made the Three Heavens?

I am looking for a verse.

Let's see who has the answer.

In Spirit. However, the third heaven is heaven, the perfection of Christ.

 

[Stumpmaster]

In Spirit. However, the third heaven is heaven, the perfection of Christ.

Four verses that speak of the heaven of heavens
Deuteronomy 10:14
1 Kings 8:27
Nehemiah 9:6
Psalm 148:4

 

[Exegesis]

What difference does it make?

I can't speak for others, but for me it made a huge difference in how I understand God and the nature of reality. It answered so many questions I had. I am able to pass this wisdom to others.

How will knowing the answer help you?

I already know the answer. I'm curious if others know, or if they ever even had this question to begin with. I never see it taught.

Since it's a subject that God spent a good deal of time teaching in Scripture, to me it's a bit of a tragedy that Christians are oblivious to said teaching.

Something as important as to what existed before anything else is useful for debating those that believe nothing existed before the so called 'Big Bang'.

 

[shepherdsword]

I can't speak for others, but for me it made a huge difference in how I understand God and the nature of reality. It answered so many questions I had. I am able to pass this wisdom to others.

So let's hear it.

I already know the answer. I'm curious if others know, or if they ever even had this question to begin with. I never see it taught.

Since it's a subject that God spent a good deal of time teaching in Scripture, to me it's a bit of a tragedy that Christians are oblivious to said teaching.

Something as important as to what existed before anything else is useful for debating those that believe nothing existed before the so called 'Big Bang'.

If it's so important surely you need to share it

 

[Exegesis]

So let's hear it.

If it's so important surely you need to share it

Thanks @shepherdsword . I will post some verses and commentary sometime over the weekend.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Where did God dwell before he made the Three Heavens?

I am looking for a verse.

Let's see who has the answer.

I'm not sure there is an answer for us mere mortals. An infinite Being dwells where we cannot think or comprehend. We are wried to think of what is, and not what theoretically existed before us. We lack those categories.

 

[Exegesis]

I have a bit of time to expand on the OP.

Three Heavens:
Before I show the verses describing the place God dwells outside of the Three Heavens, I feel it is important to offer my opinion on what they are. The following is what the Bible describes:

1. First Heaven: Multiverse
2. Second Heaven: Macrocosm
3. Third Heaven: Microcosm

The First Heaven is that which exists in between parallel universes. Most call it the Spirit Realm. John travelled to a parallel universe (New Heavens and New Earth) and back through a type of 'worm hole' or door in Heaven.

The Second Heaven is what Genesis calls the 'Firmament'. It is basically the universe, i.e., all of outer space (Macrocosm). The Firmament also comprises of earth's atmosphere. Most Christians make the mistake of separating space and atmosphere into two different Heavens. As a consequence, the actual Third Heaven is invisible to them.

The Third Heaven is the Kingdom of God Within. It is the Microcosm of Life. It is seed, human physiology, cell biology, DNA, etc. Scripture uses human physiology to help the student learn more about Heavenly concepts.

Now, whether we agree or disagree on what the Three Heavens are, it is obvious that they were all created at one point in time. Thus, there is another 'Sacred Space' that is missing from Christian teachings.

Here it is:

1 Timothy 6:14-16 - "That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

This Sacred Space that existed before the Three Heavens were created is described as a 'light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see'.

What this means is that neither John in Revelation or Paul went there. No man has gone there, or can go there, except Jesus.

Thus, if Jesus can go there, then that means there is *another* person, or persons, that are there to sort of 'merge' or be 'One' with. You all should know what that place is:

John 1:1 - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

It is the Logos.

It is the place where the Father, Word and Holy Ghost are all One. The Three Heavens manifest from that place:

Hebrews 11:3 - "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

It is also a place of 'consuming fire':

Hebrews 12:29 - "For our God is a consuming fire."

Obviously, none of the Three Heavens are a 'consuming fire'. The Logos is a light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see. It is the 'invisible' face of God that will cause immediate death for all who see it... except the Trinity.

 

[ScottA]

I have a bit of time to expand on the OP.

Three Heavens:
Before I show the verses describing the place God dwells outside of the Three Heavens, I feel it is important to offer my opinion on what they are. The following is what the Bible describes:

1. First Heaven: Multiverse
2. Second Heaven: Macrocosm
3. Third Heaven: Microcosm

The First Heaven is that which exists in between parallel universes. Most call it the Spirit Realm. John travelled to a parallel universe (New Heavens and New Earth) and back through a type of 'worm hole' or door in Heaven.

The Second Heaven is what Genesis calls the 'Firmament'. It is basically the universe, i.e., all of outer space (Macrocosm). The Firmament also comprises of earth's atmosphere. Most Christians make the mistake of separating space and atmosphere into two different Heavens. As a consequence, the actual Third Heaven is invisible to them.

The Third Heaven is the Kingdom of God Within. It is the Microcosm of Life. It is seed, human physiology, cell biology, DNA, etc. Scripture uses human physiology to help the student learn more about Heavenly concepts.

Now, whether we agree or disagree on what the Three Heavens are, it is obvious that they were all created at one point in time. Thus, there is another 'Sacred Space' that is missing from Christian teachings.

Here it is:



This Sacred Space that existed before the Three Heavens were created is described as a 'light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see'.

What this means is that neither John in Revelation or Paul went there. No man has gone there, or can go there, except Jesus.

Thus, if Jesus can go there, then that means there is *another* person, or persons, that are there to sort of 'merge' or be 'One' with. You all should know what that place is:



It is the Logos.

It is the place where the Father, Word and Holy Ghost are all One. The Three Heavens manifest from that place:



It is also a place of 'consuming fire':



Obviously, none of the Three Heavens are a 'consuming fire'. The Logos is a light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see. It is the 'invisible' face of God that will cause immediate death for all who see it... except the Trinity.

There is no forth heaven. You are only speculating.

The third heaven is the heaven of God and the perfection of Christ: In Christ in God. I know.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Speculation leads to constipation