Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

[Marvelloustime]

HE sure was sister . HE sure was . He spoke very clearly about the dire need to Beleive on HIM .
HE spoke of the gift of eternal life unto all who do beleive on HIM
And he also spoke of damanation upon all who beleived ................NOT ON HIM .
And the apostels took him seriously sister .
shaking dust off as a warning and testmony against those who did not believe on Him
And my look at all those warnings .
In the beginning GOD had told man not to eat of the tree in the midst of the garden
for n the day that ye do ye shall surely DIE .
But along came a serpent and said NAY ye shall not die , God just knows that in the day ye eat thereof
ye shall become as gods to know good and evil .
YES he used a truth , FOR GOD EVEN SAYS THAT HIMSELF , to promote A LIE that they would not die .
And now
In the beginning of his minstiry and in his days
JESUS warned the peoples of the dire need to believe on HIM and that any who did not would surely perish
would surely be damned .
But quickly soon after HIS depature
Along cometh the sepernt
and says SURELY YE SHALL NOT PERISH if you believe not , FOR GOD IS LOVE .
Once again he uses a truth , GOD IS LOVE to imply HIS LIE they wont perish .
Satan is satan and his desire is only death for man as it has always been .
But what terrifies me , for this people and i mean many in christendom , IS
the fact they seem to love this LIE , this very lie they THINK IS LOVE and OF GOD
and yet it leads them ONLY TO THE SECOND death .
And for this cause HE shall send them STRONG delusion to beleive a LIE and be damend .
WHo recieved NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH whereby they might be saved ,
but had pleasure IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS .
WELL , looks like we got us a huge image of a love god
and this love god darn sure denies the dire need TO BELEIVE ON CHRIST JESUS
and this love god sure is merging the false religoins WHO HATE GOD
with even christendom . A convenant has been made and it sure does seem
that unbelivers and those who love a lie ARE FLOCKING RIGHT UNDER IT
believing even that IT IS OF GOD and that it is the way TO PEACE N SAFETY .
and now a word
FOR WHEN They shall say peace n safety , DOES NOT SAY THEY GET IT
IT say SUDDEN DESTRUCTION comes upon them all and they WILL NOT ESCAPE .

@amigo de christo

 

[mailmandan]

@Lizbeth @amigo de christo
It’s odd how what they falsely accuse others of doing, they’re actually doing it themselves. I.e, Epi railing on Amigo.

Projection is a psychological defense mechanism that involves attributing personal feelings, desires, or traits to others. We see this a lot in politics.

 

[amigo de christo]

@Lizbeth @amigo de christo
It’s odd how what they falsely accuse others of doing, they’re actually doing it themselves. I.e, Epi railing on Amigo.

The hour is late and time draws very short .
And all things written aforetime in the scrips , and can be clearly seen in the gospels
and letters of the apostels , OH its peaking .
MANY decievers do abound and many now follow their pernsicious ways
A delusoin to UNIFY THE WORLDS RELIGOINS grows massive now under guise of the love god .
A lie is now embrace by many within christendom.
The grinding is low and the peoples run to and fro in the streets
beleiving tomorrow and next year will continue as they have throughout the ages .
But what will they do when in an isntant the door is closed .
THEY will sorely wail and wail
and beg and plead open to us
And all that will be heard is , I NEVER KNEW YOU .
Intefaith ecumincalism false love, IS GONNA END THIS WORLD and their peace n safety
WONT be peace n safety . SUDDEN d estruction cometh .
For not only is the world rejected Christ , SO has much of chrisetndom and now they preach nothing but false love
and plans for world peace n safety . Not looking good my dear sister .
Let all who names the NAME of CHRIST depart from inquity and do exploits that honor HIM . Time is running out

 

[Episkopos]

Rom 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? @Episkopos
Rom 8:32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things?
Rom 8:33 Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? @Episkopos It is God who justifies.

It's easy to put oneself in the favour column...but how many who say Lord, Lord, will use that very kind of logic as they weep and gnash their teeth in anger because they were duped?

Who is God for? The widow, the fatherless, the poor, the meek...those who left all to follow Christ.

Who is He against? The proud, the rich the smug, those who use unrighteous judgment and take away righteousness from the righteous.

 

[ProDeo]

It's easy to put oneself in the favour column...but how many who say Lord, Lord, will use that very kind of logic as they weep and gnash their teeth in anger because they were duped?

Who is God for? The widow, the fatherless, the poor, the meek...those who left all to follow Christ.

Who is He against? The proud, the rich the smug, those who use unrighteous judgment and take away righteousness from the righteous.

You sinned in your post I was responding too.

 

[Episkopos]

The hour is late and time draws very short .
And all things written aforetime in the scrips , and can be clearly seen in the gospels
and letters of the apostels , OH its peaking .
MANY decievers do abound and many now follow their pernsicious ways
A delusoin to UNIFY THE WORLDS RELIGOINS grows massive now under guise of the love god .
A lie is now embrace by many within christendom.
The grinding is low and the peoples run to and fro in the streets
beleiving tomorrow and next year will continue as they have throughout the ages .
But what will they do when in an isntant the door is closed .
THEY will sorely wail and wail
and beg and plead open to us
And all that will be heard is , I NEVER KNEW YOU .
Intefaith ecumincalism false love, IS GONNA END THIS WORLD and their peace n safety
WONT be peace n safety . SUDDEN d estruction cometh .
For not only is the world rejected Christ , SO has much of chrisetndom and now they preach nothing but false love
and plans for world peace n safety . Not looking good my dear sister .
Let all who names the NAME of CHRIST depart from inquity and do exploits that honor HIM . Time is running out

Actually it was Ecumenism that created the creeds that religious institutions post as their statements of faith. So it is fruit from the rotten tree...trying to turn Christianity into a religion ruled by men having certain dogmatic ideologies...but no life.

Where is faith these days? Gone in favour of beliefs ABOUT Jesus among those who don't listen to Jesus...instead forming a fan club (saved club) based on His heroism....thinking they can benefit personally in the enterprise. But Jesus is unknown to them.

I have posted many things that Jesus said...and they are either ignored or railed against. Such is the state of a church based on the "standardization" process of ecumanism. If you are freaking out about compromise with the world...the horse has already left the stable.

 

[Episkopos]

You sinned in your post I was responding too.

If you were the judge, then yes...I could seen as speaking falsehoods...as long as the people accusing are believing a lie. Jesus was seen as sinful by those who hated Him. It is the way it is, among those who champion the flesh and the right to be sinful while judging others of what they are doing themselves.

Your views are very common, indeed. All one needs to relate to them is a firm grasp of the ego with its self-interested ideology.

How typical.

But actually LISTENING or HEEDING the words of Jesus...you will not find. Instead He is admired as an idol of sorts...without any care to as to what God thinks of this.

The ONLY way we know that we have been approved by God, is to be empowered from heaven to walk in His resurrection life.

A spiritual man judges all things, but a carnal man has no understanding to judge what is spiritual. The carnal can only judge based on a religious dogma....that's all.

 

[Behold]

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And what about those who seek to enter into Christ by the narrow (lawful) way and are unable? Can these take the liberty of naming and claiming lawlessly to be in Him? Doesn't Jesus reject the many who will do so?

Jesus rejects religious pretenders who claim they can "do righteousness", when God says "there is none righteous, no not one".

The Religious pretender, is a pride filled person...who, can't understand something.

Let me show it to you @Episkopos

1,) First we have a unbeliever.......not a christian.......who gives to the poor, is kind to everyone, and is always looking to do good deeds.
They are constantly working good works..

2.) Now, we have the Born again, who gives to the poor, is kind to everyone, and is always looking to do good deeds.. They are constantly working good works.

Now why can't the deceived Religious pretender understand that both the unbeliever and believer are doing the same good works, yet only one is going to heaven?

Its because the pride filled religious nutbar, does not understand that God does not accept anyone's works to save them.
"All our works are filthy wrags" as compared to God's Holiness and Righteousness.

So, what is the solution,?

This is the solution.

New Living Translation
and become one with God. I no longer count on my own righteousness

English Standard Version
and be found in Christ, not having a righteousness of my own

Berean Standard Bible
and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness

Berean Literal Bible
and be found in Christ, not having my own righteousness

King James Bible
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness,

New King James Version
and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness,

New American Standard Bible
and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own
==============================================================================

New Living Translation
rather, I become righteous through faith in Christ. For God’s way of making us right with himself depends on faith.

English Standard Version
but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—

Berean Standard Bible
the righteousness from God on the basis of faith.

Berean Literal Bible
the righteousness of God on the basis of faith,

King James Bible
but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

New King James Version
but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;

New American Standard Bible
but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith,

 

[shepherdsword]

slogans, memes, cliches, declarations and mantras...where is life?

1 Jn 5:11-12
And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life

 

[Episkopos]

Jesus rejects religious pretenders who claim they can "do righteousness", when God says "there is none righteous, no not one".

Only a pretender would come to your conclusion. You are not understanding the bible narrative nor the gospel. Notice what Peter says after seeing God's acceptance of the Gentiles...


“But in every nation he that fears him, and works righteousness, is accepted with him.” Acts 10:35

Now because you are blind to the truth, you and others here, you will not see the verse above...because you have probably never read that far into the bible...stopping as soon as you formulate your religious beliefs...that do NOT stand up to comparison with what the bible REALLY teaches.

But for those who can read...what do you make of Peter's statement? Is he wrong?

The Religious pretender, is a pride filled person...who, can't understand something.

That's my conclusion based on your obstinacy in avoiding the truth.

Let me show it to you @Episkopos

1,) First we have a unbeliever.......not a christian.......who gives to the poor, is kind to everyone, and is always looking to do good deeds.
They are constantly working good works..

2.) Now, we have the Born again, who gives to the poor, is kind to everyone, and is always looking to do good deeds.. They are constantly working good works.

Now why can't the deceived Religious pretender understand that both the unbeliever and believer are doing the same good works, yet only one is going to heaven?

False. You are the pretender in the story. The righteous are accepted with God. Try reading the bible...not just reading religious commentaries.

Its because the pride filled religious nutbar, does not understand that God does not accept anyone's works to save them.
"All our works are filthy wrags" as compared to God's Holiness and Righteousness.

A good person does what is right based on love of the truth. All you have is the filthy rags....while judging others with better motives...taking away righteousness from the righteous because you think they are as spoiled as you.

So, what is the solution,?

This is the solution.

New Living Translation
and become one with God. I no longer count on my own righteousness

English Standard Version
and be found in Christ, not having a righteousness of my own

Berean Standard Bible
and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness

Berean Literal Bible
and be found in Christ, not having my own righteousness

King James Bible
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness,

New King James Version
and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness,

New American Standard Bible
and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own
==============================================================================

New Living Translation
rather, I become righteous through faith in Christ. For God’s way of making us right with himself depends on faith.

English Standard Version
but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—

Berean Standard Bible
the righteousness from God on the basis of faith.

Berean Literal Bible
the righteousness of God on the basis of faith,

King James Bible
but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

New King James Version
but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;

New American Standard Bible
but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith,

You are mixing testaments here, not differentiating between an Abrahamic faith and righteousness and the righteousness of God given to us as the SECOND law...the law of the Spirit of life In Christ.

 

[mailmandan]

slogans, memes, cliches, declarations and mantras...where is life?

1 Jn 5:11-12
And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life

1 John 5:13 - These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

 

[Episkopos]

1 John 5:13 - These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. 2 Tim 2:20-21

A person who is not yet purged runs the risk of being rejected as a vessel of DISHONOUR although fully saved. Outer darkness is an eternal destiny. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

[Behold]

Only a pretender would come to your conclusion. You are not understanding the bible narrative nor the gospel. Notice what Peter says after seeing God's acceptance of the Gentiles...

You're not understanding God's Righteousness., because you are "Ignorant of God's righteousness, going about to establish your own".......Paul teaches.

And if you dont have it,....having received "the Gift of Righteousness before you die".... then you're not just a pretender.....

Listen.......God came to this earth, wrapped in Human flesh, to give you His very own righteosness., that is imputed.

English Standard Version
but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—

Berean Standard Bible
the righteousness from God on the basis of faith.

Berean Literal Bible
the righteousness of God on the basis of faith,

King James Bible
but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

“But in every nation he that fears him, and works righteousness, is accepted with him.” Acts 10:35

You are not a ""Nation""", You are a sinner who is trying to work your way into your continuing self righteousness, delusions.

You twisted a verse that is talking to NATIONS, and are twisting it constantly to fit your theological pretext, which denies the "Gift of righteousness" = that God gave to Abraham, and to Noah, and to and to all who believe in Christ by FAITH.
A.) Our "FAITH is counted by GOD, as RIGHTEOUSNESS"........= imputed righteousness.
You do not understand this, and that concludes that you dont understand God's plan of Salvation.

False. You are the pretender in the story. The righteous are accepted with God.

No sinner has rightouesness of their own, """For the SCRIPTURE has concluded that all are under sin.""""

That means you.

A good person does what is right based on love of the truth. All you have is the filthy rags..

"""All of your works are filthy rags.""", before God's Holiness.
That means all of them., including tomorrow's and todays, and yesterday's.

You are mixing testaments here, not differentiating between an Abrahamic faith and righteousness and the righteousness of God given to us as the SECOND law...the law of the Spirit of life In Christ.

Abraham is the "father of our faith"....Paul teaches....as it was Abraham who " BELIEVED God "and it was COUNTED UNTO HIM as GOD's Righteousness" = imputed, and it "shall be imputed to us also".. who BELIEVE"........Paul teaches.

How?

"Through Faith"..........Paul Teaches.

"Justifiction by FAITH"..."without works or deeds of the Law".

 

[Episkopos]

You're not understanding God's Righteousness., because you are "Ignorant of God's righteousness, going about to establish your own".......Paul teaches.

And if you dont have it,....having received "the Gift of Righteousness before you die".... then you're not just a pretender.....

Listen.......God came to this earth, wrapped in Human flesh, to give you His very own righteosness., that is imputed.

English Standard Version
but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—

Berean Standard Bible
the righteousness from God on the basis of faith.

Berean Literal Bible
the righteousness of God on the basis of faith,

King James Bible
but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:




You are not a ""Nation""", You are a sinner who is trying to work your way into your continuing self righteousness, delusions.

You twisted a verse that is talking to NATIONS, and are twisting it constantly to fit your theological pretext, which denies the "Gift of righteousness" = that God gave to Abraham, and to Noah, and to and to all who believe in Christ by FAITH.
A.) Our "FAITH is counted by GOD, as RIGHTEOUSNESS"........= imputed righteousness.
You do not understand this, and that concludes that you dont understand God's plan of Salvation.




No sinner has rightouesness of their own, """For the SCRIPTURE has concluded that all are under sin.""""

That means you.



"""All of your works are filthy rags.""", before God's Holiness.
That means all of them., including tomorrow's and todays, and yesterday's.




Abraham is the "father of our faith"....Paul teaches....as it was Abraham who " BELIEVED God "and it was COUNTED UNTO HIM as GOD's Righteousness" = imputed, and it "shall be imputed to us also".. who BELIEVE"........Paul teaches.

How?

"Through Faith"..........Paul Teaches.

"Justifiction by FAITH"..."without works or deeds of the Law".

What you can take credit for is the logical fallacies you perpetrate about the bible. "I am not a nation"? That's it? That is how you ignore Jesus and the apostles?

 

[Behold]

What you can take credit for is the logical fallacies you perpetrate about the bible

The "imputed righteousness" of Christ, that is God's "Gift of Righteousness" is not a private interpretation.
Its Paul's most basic teaching of How God justifies a sinner through The Cross of Christ.
= ITS SALVATION.

"I am not a nation"? That's it? That is how you ignore Jesus and the apostles?

To "rightly divide the word of God", ......in layman's language, means that you dont point every bible verse at the Christian as doctrine.

Im not sure that you even understand that Jesus came to the JEWS.......not the Christians and not to Gentiles, as there were no Christians on the EARTH until AFTER The Cross of Christ was Raised, which birthed the NT Church.

The Apostles were not Christians until Jesus's death paid for their sin... (they were only Disciples during Jesus's ministry)......and they became Christians = after Jesus died and was resurrected.., as this is when God provided the Blood Atonement for EVERYONE, including the original 11 who remained.

See, we have to veiw Bible verses given before The Cross, = carefully through the Lens of The Cross, as some are prophetic, and some are for the Jews, only., and some are "doctrine for the Church".

 

[Marvelloustime]

The hour is late and time draws very short .
And all things written aforetime in the scrips , and can be clearly seen in the gospels
and letters of the apostels , OH its peaking .
MANY decievers do abound and many now follow their pernsicious ways
A delusoin to UNIFY THE WORLDS RELIGOINS grows massive now under guise of the love god .
A lie is now embrace by many within christendom.
The grinding is low and the peoples run to and fro in the streets
beleiving tomorrow and next year will continue as they have throughout the ages .
But what will they do when in an isntant the door is closed .
THEY will sorely wail and wail
and beg and plead open to us
And all that will be heard is , I NEVER KNEW YOU .
Intefaith ecumincalism false love, IS GONNA END THIS WORLD and their peace n safety
WONT be peace n safety . SUDDEN d estruction cometh .
For not only is the world rejected Christ , SO has much of chrisetndom and now they preach nothing but false love
and plans for world peace n safety . Not looking good my dear sister .
Let all who names the NAME of CHRIST depart from inquity and do exploits that honor HIM . Time is running out

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

Actually it was Ecumenism that created the creeds that religious institutions post as their statements of faith. So it is fruit from the rotten tree...trying to turn Christianity into a religion ruled by men having certain dogmatic ideologies...but no life.

Where is faith these days? Gone in favour of beliefs ABOUT Jesus among those who don't listen to Jesus...instead forming a fan club (saved club) based on His heroism....thinking they can benefit personally in the enterprise. But Jesus is unknown to them.

I have posted many things that Jesus said...and they are either ignored or railed against. Such is the state of a church based on the "standardization" process of ecumanism. If you are freaking out about compromise with the world...the horse has already left the stable.

Until you repent of satans idea of unbelief
you could bring every word of Christ and yet still not know him .
EPI you call GOD a liar .
NOT by making mention of holiness , righteousness and yes the fact that a whole lot WHO DO lip his name STILL DONT KNOW HIM
Cause i have long said the same .
But i know you epi . I Seen what you have said more than once .
YOU gonna have to stop calling JESUS a liar yourself .
I need to hear you say and acknowledge
THAT JESUS SPOKE the TRUTH
AND HE HIMSELF said and made it darn clear
That who so ever BELIEVES NOT ON HIM , WILL NOT BE SAVED . DAMANTION AWAITS THEM .
YOU need to say this .
Because you do as even the hyper grace do , YOU OMIT things THAT SHOULD NOT have been OMITTED .
SO i need to hear you say that even if the friendliest most so called loving grandma
That did many good works
Still did not BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST , SHE GONNA WAIL and wail and wail .
EVEN CORNLIOUS . EVEN HE , HE DID MANY GOOD WORKS . OH yes EPI HE DID
and what marvelous and good works they were ,
BUT EVEN HE HAD TO HEAR THE GOSPEL and BELIEVE in ORDER TO BE SAVED . I SHUN your lie to hades .
I SEEN IT EPI and i can easily prove this to all here . I SEEN what you have wrote more than once
implying unbelievers are saved . NO SIR . NO SIR . NO SIR . ONLY those who hear and BELIEVE are saved .
BUT YOU are RIGHT ON ONE THING , MANY DO LIP HIS NAME
and can even quoate the right gospel , JUST LIKE I ONCE COULD , and yet THEY AS LOST AS I ONCE WAS .
BUT SO ARE YOU EPI , you as lost as those you accuse . STOP calling JESUS a liar .

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo
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Brother did not even have to look up to know i has been spotted . LOL . march on sister and bring those gems

 

[ProDeo]

I wish a mod will close this mud throwing thread.

 

[Episkopos]

Until you repent of satans idea of unbelief
you could bring every word of Christ and yet still not know him .
EPI you call GOD a liar .
NOT by making mention of holiness , righteousness and yes the fact that a whole lot WHO DO lip his name STILL DONT KNOW HIM
Cause i have long said the same .
But i know you epi . I Seen what you have said more than once .
YOU gonna have to stop calling JESUS a liar yourself .
I need to hear you say and acknowledge
THAT JESUS SPOKE the TRUTH
AND HE HIMSELF said and made it darn clear
That who so ever BELIEVES NOT ON HIM , WILL NOT BE SAVED . DAMANTION AWAITS THEM .
YOU need to say this .
Because you do as even the hyper grace do , YOU OMIT things THAT SHOULD NOT have been OMITTED .
SO i need to hear you say that even if the friendliest most so called loving grandma
That did many good works
Still did not BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST , SHE GONNA WAIL and wail and wail .
EVEN CORNLIOUS . EVEN HE , HE DID MANY GOOD WORKS . OH yes EPI HE DID
and what marvelous and good works they were ,
BUT EVEN HE HAD TO HEAR THE GOSPEL and BELIEVE in ORDER TO BE SAVED . I SHUN your lie to hades .
I SEEN IT EPI and i can easily prove this to all here . I SEEN what you have wrote more than once
implying unbelievers are saved . NO SIR . NO SIR . NO SIR . ONLY those who hear and BELIEVE are saved .
BUT YOU are RIGHT ON ONE THING , MANY DO LIP HIS NAME
and can even quoate the right gospel , JUST LIKE I ONCE COULD , and yet THEY AS LOST AS I ONCE WAS .
BUT SO ARE YOU EPI , you as lost as those you accuse . STOP calling JESUS a liar .

I uphold Jesus. You deny Him...and I can prove it right now...I can post the "wholesome" words of Jesus and you will rail against them.

A certain young ruler came and asked Jesus DIRECTLY...what must I do to be saved...to INHERIT eternal life???

Jesus answered ....obey the commandments.

Which commandments? The righteousness commandments. Loving your neighbour as yourself.....DOING righteousness.

Is that you what you teach? Do you teach what Jesus taught?

The young man asked what else was there? Since he already understood the law of righteousness.

Jesus said...if you would be PERFECT, sell you have and you will have treasure in heaven...and come follow Me.

Now, based on your dogmatic indoctrination, you will deny this and NOT obey Christ...you will deny Him and His words.

Show everyone here what you really think of Jesus...

Make a sad face and ignore His words. That's all you have. I'm sure there are others here who likewise have no love for the truth.