Go and Sin no more...is this possible?

[Taken]

Bizzare.

Have you read the last few pages?

I have been defending the whole truth.

The whole truth of the Bible clearly exposes once saved always saved as a lie.

Daniel was the topic…
You made unfounded accusations.
Own it and move on.

 

[Taken]

Boy, you really have it out for Daniel, don’t you?

You are not capable to have a conversation without making false accusations.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

You are not capable to have a conversation without making false accusations.

That’s a false accusation.

 

[Taken]

@Taken wrote....,""""We are temporarily “IN Christ.""""

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Being in Christ is to have become a New Creation.
The born again are always "in Christ", and Christ is always in us.



@Taken wrote.. """" A converted man Lives IN Jesus’ risen Body… aks IN Christ…""""""

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Actually Its a Spiritual Birth.......so, we are in Spiritual union with Christ, and with God.





@Taken wrote """"" Forever “WITH” Christ."""""

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We are forever with Christ because we are born again SPIRITUALLY.
This means we are in Spiritual Union with God and Christ.






@Taken wrote. """"No. A man IN Christ IS not Sinless.""""""

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The Cross of Christ forgives all sin......so, this is to become SINLESS.
The reason a Christian is SINLESs, is because ""Jesus is the ONE TIME Eternal Sacrifice for Sin".

Because = "God hath Made Jesus to be sin...for Us".

See, if you have your sin, then Jesus has not died for your sin on The Cross .......which meansyou're not forgiven, and your Not a Christian.

We disagree. I do not believe ANY humans natural living body is “sinless”.

I have forgiven Sin.
My own new body “will be” sinless.

 

[Muna]

Here it says,

1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you:
he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

Seeing the manifestation of the fruit of the Spirit is shown here

Ephes 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

The fruit of that same Spirit is by Jesus Christ

Phil 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ,
unto the glory and praise of God.

Righteousnes is something manifest in His children

1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Again,

1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you:
he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

 

[Behold]

We disagree. I do not believe ANY humans natural living body is “sinless”.

I have forgiven Sin.
My own new body “will be” sinless.

"The body is dead because of sin"......

The "Spirit is LIFE"......because of righteousness"..

So, the body is not born again, "Its dead because of Sin"...........So....its the Spirit that has the spiritual birth, that is made alive having eternal life 'in Christ".

Now consider this....@Taken

There is no Sin found In God.
There is no Sin found in Christ
There is no Sin found in Heaven.

All the born again are ...

"IN Christ"
"One with God"
"Seated in Heavenly places"...

The born again can't have any SIN, and be "in Christ" or "One with God" or be "Seated in Heavenly places".
So, to be there, is to be sinless.. "Made Righteous".......as otherwise the born again could not be there.

 

[Taken]

"The body is dead because of sin"......

The "Spirit is LIFE"......because of righteousness"..

So, the body is not born again, "Its dead because of Sin"...........So....its the Spirit that has the spiritual birth, that is made alive having eternal life 'in Christ".

Now consider this....@Taken

There is no Sin found In God.
There is no Sin found in Christ
There is no Sin found in Heaven.

All the born again are ...

"IN Christ"
"One with God"
"Seated in Heavenly places"...

The born again can't have any SIN, and be "in Christ" or "One with God" or be "Seated in Heavenly places".
So, to be there, is to be sinless.. "Made Righteous".......as otherwise the born again could not be there.

Crucified with Christ…
Accounted DEAD, in the Lambs Book of Life.
Yet they live in their natural body.
While Spiritually they Live in Christs Risen Body… until their own Body is Risen Glorified.

Gal 2:
[20] I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

2 Cor 5:
[8] We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

Matt 28:
[20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

 

[Taken]

That’s a false accusation.

It never ceases to amaze me the lengths that so called Christians will go to defend sin.

 

[Behold]

Accounted DEAD, in the Lambs Book of Life.

The Lambs book of Life is a book of Eternal life, and names those who have it, because they are in it.

Yet they live in their natural body.

The Spirit lives in the body that is : "dead because of sin".
The body will die, and the Spriit will go on into eternlty., ither to Heaven or Hell.

While Spiritually they Live in Christs Risen Body… until their own Body is Risen Glorified.

The "Body of Christ" is describing the born again Christian, who is this one.. = "As Jesus is......so are the born agian , in this world".

Gal 2:
[20] I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Paul defines His life as "In Chrsit".......so that is the born again new creation, that exist temporarily within the body that is "dead because of sin".
Every Christian gets a new body that is designed to contain the "new creation" in Christ.......the Born again spirit.

2 Cor 5:
[8] We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

Yes, Paul left his dead body behind, and went to Jesus.
It is not his first trip to heaven.....He'd been there before.

Matt 28:
[20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Yes, Christ said He would : 'never leave us or forsake us"........and this is true, as He is inside all the born again.

"Christ IN YOU... the hope of Glory".. (Glory is Heaven).

 

[Michiah-Imla]

“Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.” (Ezk 3:21, KJV)

“…He that heareth, let him hear; and he that forbeareth, let him forbear: for they are a rebellious house.” (Ezk 3:27, KJV)

 

[Muna]

“Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.” (Ezk 3:21, KJV)

“…He that heareth, let him hear; and he that forbeareth, let him forbear: for they are a rebellious house.” (Ezk 3:27, KJV)

That is a good one, I had posted on this, I have it set up a few different ways as I weave through how I can catch these things in Jesus and Paul so I will post one under your post here, maybe someone else could catch a better glimpse of the things in the same as well because you can even catch it in Jeremiah if you begin there.

For example,

Jerm 18:7 At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;

Jerm 18:8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

So after the fleeing the commission of the word of the LORD the first time the word of the Lord came again to Jonah

Jonah 3:1 And the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the second time, saying,

Jonah 3:2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.

Jonah 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.

Jonah 3:5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.

Jona 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

And again...

Jerm 18:8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

As the LORD hath said, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live:

As he says in Ezekiel ..." turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?"

Ezek 33:7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.

Ezek 33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

The comparison right here posted earlier

Luke 11:29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

Luke 11:30 For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation.

Luke 11:32 The men of Nineveh shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

And here it is in Christ

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

Then here

Ezek 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

Then in Paul who said,

Acts 20:26 Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men.

Acts 20:27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.

Paul saying

"Woe to me", if I preach not the gospel seems to be in accord with a watchman in a similar was since Paul being pure from the blood of all men is comparable to his warning them.

Col 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.

Paul became all things to all men when it come to gaining the world to Jesus Christ, but Jesus asks

Luke 9:25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?

Paul seems to answer the same this way

1Cr 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Practicing what he preaches, saving both himself and them that hear as he instructed Timothy

1 Ti 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

 

[Taken]

The Lambs book of Life is a book of Eternal life, and names those who have it, because they are in it.

According to you…(regarding the Lambs Book of Life).

WHO “specifically” names are in THAT Book?

WHEN “specifically” were their names written in THAT book?

WHY “specifically” were their names written in THAT book?

The Spirit lives in the body that is : "dead because of sin".

What Spirit “specifically” lives IN a Dead Body?

Paul defines His life as "In Chrsit".......so that is the born again new creation, that exist temporarily within the body that is "dead because of sin".
Every Christian gets a new body that is designed to contain the "new creation" in Christ.......the Born again spirit.

Have “YOU RECEIVED” a NEW “SINLESS” (glorified) Body?

]Yes, Paul left his dead body behind, and went to Jesus.


It is not his first trip to heaven.....He'd been there before.

WHEN?

Yes, Christ said He would : 'never leave us or forsake us"........and this is true, as He is inside all the born again.

(Presuming you are born again now)
WHAT body specifically” are you presently IN?

Thanks.

 

[amigo de christo]

Another question for ya…

How many sins did it take for Adam and Eve to ruin it all?

One!

There was no “practice” of sinning there.

Wake up!

Surely ye shall not die , and yet they did .
For WHEN GOD says anything , IT IS the TRUTH .
Now what did JESUS say concering BELEIF and UNBELEIF in HIM and IN HIS Words .
I Highly suggest we HEED HIM.
Not the serpent who has been teaching surely they shall not perish if they believe NOT That JESUS is the CHRIST .
JESUS said they would
Just as GOD said they would die in the day they ate of the tree .
GOD IS ALWAYS RIGHT . ecumincalism however IS of the dark one and we really need to flee any appearance of it .
NOW to the trenches one and to the trenches all .

 

[amigo de christo]

Sure you can!

“Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves another has fulfilled the Law. For: "Do not commit adultery; do not murder; do not steal; do not bear false witness; do not lust;" and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this word, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."” (Rom 13:8-9, MKJV)

and what if when we were children we had used that same line on our own parents .
But gee mom and dad WE cannot obey everything you say .
WOULD NOT WORK on them
YET WHY does this mentality work so well on many in the church .
I will tell us why
many still love sin . they , however want to feel safe and accepted .
Now we do have a pattern for sin .
Its known as WARN against any appearance of evil , LET inquity not once be named among you
and if one does err , WE do all to correct such a one . ITs known as
correction . but even that now has pretty much gone under the banner of their beloved idol of
OH JUDGE NOT , WE ALL SIN , stop judging , stop sowing discord
And some wonder why the leaven took over the churches .

 

[amigo de christo]

According to you…(regarding the Lambs Book of Life).

WHO “specifically” names are in THAT Book?

WHEN “specifically” were their names written in THAT book?

WHY “specifically” were their names written in THAT book?





What Spirit “specifically” lives IN a Dead Body?




Have “YOU RECEIVED” a NEW “SINLESS” (glorified) Body?




WHEN?



(Presuming you are born again now)
WHAT body specifically” are you presently IN?

Thanks.

you just asked the who , what why when questions .
Now prepare to weep as you ask this to many within this so called ecumincal love train .
And i do mean WEEP .
As they add too and take from the gospel of YE MUST BELEIVE TO BE SAVED.
And even if they can lip the truth
THEN ask them but what about muslims , buddists , and etc
Are you saying they wont be saved unless they repent to BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
AND WEEP LIKE A BABY when you hear many who do respond . WE BEING clowned and decieved taken . Clowned
and decieved . But if this seems hard to beleive
JUST wait . as the mother of all harlots LIED TO ALL THEM FALSE religoins on stage
HER protestant evangelical realm WILL SOON do the same . WE ARE BEING SET UP my friend .
NEVER sip from a whores cup .

 

[Taken]

you just asked the who , what why when questions .

Yes I Did.
And you could have answered, but didn’t.

Now prepare to weep as you ask

No, I do not weep, because I ask questions.

Are you saying they wont be saved unless they repent to BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .

Did I make ANY statement saying that?

AND WEEP LIKE A BABY when you hear many who do respond .

I am simply wondering WHY you responded…
Noting I asked Questions, but not answering the Questions…
And then wondering IF I made a Statement that was not made.

 

[soberxp]

and what if when we were children we had used that same line on our own parents .
But gee mom and dad WE cannot obey everything you say .
WOULD NOT WORK on them
YET WHY does this mentality work so well on many in the church .
I will tell us why
many still love sin . they , however want to feel safe and accepted .
Now we do have a pattern for sin .
Its known as WARN against any appearance of evil , LET inquity not once be named among you
and if one does err , WE do all to correct such a one . ITs known as
correction . but even that now has pretty much gone under the banner of their beloved idol of
OH JUDGE NOT , WE ALL SIN , stop judging , stop sowing discord
And some wonder why the leaven took over the churches .

Romans 11:32

For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Not to defend sin, but everyone is trapped in disobedience. If you think I have distorted the meaning of this Bible, please point out my problem.

 

[mailmandan]

When we're speaking of Job, and Daniel, let's add Noah . . .

Ezekiel 14:13-14 LITV
13) Son of man, when a land sins against Me, baring a faithless act, then I will stretch out My hand on it, and I will shatter the staff of bread to it, and I will send famine on it. And I will cut off from it man and beast.
14) And though these three men were in its midst, Noah, Daniel, and Job, by their righteousness they should deliver only their souls, declares the Lord Jehovah.

Much love!

Ecclesiastes 7:20 - Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

Romans 3:23 - for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

Except for Jesus Christ. (2 Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 4:15; 1 Peter 2:22)

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes I Did.
And you could have answered, but didn’t.



No, I do not weep, because I ask questions.



Did I make ANY statement saying that?



I am simply wondering WHY you responded…
Noting I asked Questions, but not answering the Questions…
And then wondering IF I made a Statement that was not made.

To prove a point my friend .
Now go to and behold yalls beloved ecumincal interfaith interrelgious dialgoue at work .
CAUSE THEY DARN SURE didnt tell that to the false religoins .
LIED TO THEM ALL and to christendom acting like we all serve the same GOD .
And folks wanna join hands WITH THAT . but reader do beware
if you joining hands with the ecumincal movement , YOU JUST JOINED HANDS the THE HARLOT WHO BROUGHT IT TO US ALL .
Now ya see WHY i been warning so much .

 

[Behold]

regarding the Lambs Book of Life. WHO “specifically” names are in THAT Book?

Everyone who didnt die as a Christ rejector, never born again.

WHEN “specifically” were their names written in THAT book?

Everyone's name is in that Book, from Birth.
And if they receive Christ and are born again, then after they die, their Name REMAINS in the Book.
If they die never born again, then their name is "blotted out"....its removed from the Book.

What Spirit “specifically” lives IN a Dead Body?

Mine and yours, is the "spirit" that lives in our dying body.

"Our body is dead becasue of sin"....and our Spirit lives in this body.

The Born again, get a new body...that is designed to contain the BORN AGAIN.. Spirit.

Have “YOU RECEIVED” a NEW “SINLESS” (glorified) Body?

The Born again get their NEW BODY during the "Rapture">, and Paul teaches this as.... we will "ALL BE CHANGED"., as that is when we get the New Body.

WHAT body specifically” are you presently IN?

Well, everyone is in a dying body.
The born again, are become "the Body of Christ" and He lives in the Born again, as "Christ in you, the hope of Glory" (Glory is Heaven).