Is the prophetic picture becoming clearer to you with the events that are transpiring in the middle east and or the whole world?

[Jay Ross]

Something told me you would have no answer.

No, I had a problem with providing you with reasoned answer, but your response with your question(s) showed that you did not understand what I had posted.

What is "their angry return"? I have never heard such a term. And who is the "their" of their angry return?

Rev 12:13-17: - 13 And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle to fly from the presence of the serpent to her place in the wilderness, where she was nourished for a time, and times, and half a time.​

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15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river to overtake the woman and sweep her away in the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth to swallow up the river that the dragon had poured from his mouth. 17 And the dragon was enraged at the woman and went to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.​

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And the dragon stood on the shore of the sea.​

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When Satan became enraged, at Israel, he then went after the "Christian Saints" to kill them as well.

But my guess is that you will also not accept this answer.

 

[KUWN]

No, I had a problem with providing you with reasoned answer, but your response with your question(s) showed that you did not understand what I had posted.

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Rev 12:13-17: - 13 And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle to fly from the presence of the serpent to her place in the wilderness, where she was nourished for a time, and times, and half a time.​

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15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river to overtake the woman and sweep her away in the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth to swallow up the river that the dragon had poured from his mouth. 17 And the dragon was enraged at the woman and went to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.​

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And the dragon stood on the shore of the sea.​

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When Satan became enraged, at Israel, he then went after the "Christian Saints" to kill them as well.

But my guess is that you will also not accept this answer.

This is the most convoluted take on "Christian Saints" that I have ever read. Can you list a couple of Evangelical scholars who hold that position so I can investigate this. I hope this is not just your understanding of these few texts, since it appears you have not done much a systematic theology on Dispensationalism, Prophecy, and End times.

 

[Jay Ross]

This is the most convoluted take on "Christian Saints" that I have ever read. Can you list a couple of Evangelical scholars who hold that position so I can investigate this. I hope this is not just your understanding of these few texts, since it appears you have not done much a systematic theology on Dispensationalism, Prophecy, and End times.

If you believe that the Israelites will be displaced from where they are presently living to, in a blink of an eye, to be living in the land of Canaan, then your understanding is flawed and is not in line with God's prophetic words on the Endt Times.

If you want to be told of a number of evangelical scholars who also hold to this theology, then you be disappointed mainly because these theologians are too busy to actually take the time to ponder God's word and the plan that God has for His earthly hosts.

My understand of Genesis 12:1-3 has changed over the years with the last revelations that Israel will be a blessing for the peoples of the earth who inhabit his fertile soil/fields. Another way of putting this is that God's Blessing willingly be for that Saints who have taken root in God's fertile soil drawing their nourishment directly from God.

This process of being blessed by the Israelites during the End Times can only happen when we send our roots into His fertile soil in His fields through their urging to believe that Jesus is the Son of God; The foundation stone of how Jesus will build His assembly, her on the face of the earth and also in Heaven.