I had to sit with this one for awhile
If that video never crossed my path to consider it in a different way I would need an ice pack for my brain
the Messianic Bloodline was through a woman!
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If that video never crossed my path to consider it in a different way I would need an ice pack for my brain
But that does not matter. For the prophecy to be true Christ had to be from an actual bloodline of David. Nothing about associated with or knew a person from the bloodline for David.
Like everything else in the Old Testament it is part of storyline. The word Messiah is not associated with this story.
PS95
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It was easier before that video!!I had to sit with this one for awhile
If that video never crossed my path to consider it in a different way I would need an ice pack for my brain
It was easier being wrong! lol I can't figure out why we need both "fathers" roots-- and none of Mary.I think I'm just going with Paul..lol
Like everyone that had not had a baby before is a virgin by definition in this period.
Who is her seed here
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Behold
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Capatilize the "S", in seed, as you would with any verse that is talking about Jesus.
So, when you write Seed....with the uppercase "S"< then you are designating Jesus.....exactly as you would if you posted that Jesus is the Word made flesh., and the bible is the word of God.
So, in Gen, He is the "Seed".......not the seed.
Behold
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That is your opinion, and you are welcome to it.
However ""Emmanuel"" disagrees with it.
Behold
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The verse said a Virgin would conceive......."Emmanuel".
No ohter "virgin" in the bible is that one....... as that one is Mary, and Jesus is "Emmanuel" her virgin born son.
Why are you going on about the way translators capitalized the thing?
Who is her seed here
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Romans 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
Emmanuel means God (is) with us...not messiah. Again the verse is in a middle of a story. Cherry picking at its finest.
Genesis 3:15
"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
Behold
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Messiah is " Emmanuel" : the God - Man.
See the "Trinity" for the update on "Emmanuel"., and keep in mind Isaiah is prophetic... its prophesing that Emmamuel (the God man), is coming from a Virgin, who is Jesus.
That virgin would be Mary, unless there is another virgin in the bible who produced a different "Emmanuel".
Maybe you can find a 2nd one in there, even tho there is only ONE.
Give it a try.
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Hi Grail!
My guess is that you do not believe that Christ was actually God in human form?
"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."
Matthew 1:23
I'm just curious
Again Emmanuel means God (is) with us...not messiah. Again the verse is in a middle of a story. Cherry picking at its finest. The Hebew word Emmanuel has many meanings....
H410 - 'ēl - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (WLC)
H410 - אֵל ʼêl, ale; shortened from ; strength; as adjective, mighty; especially the Almighty (but used also of any deity):—God (god), goodly, great, idol, might(-y one), power, strong. Compare names in '-el.'
www.blueletterbible.org
Hi Grail!
My guess is that you do not believe that Christ was actually God in human form?
"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."
Matthew 1:23
I'm just curious
Behold
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Try this..
"God with us"......."Eammuel"......is "God manifested in the Flesh".... 1 Tim 3:16... (KJV).
"God with us".. "Emmanuel", is.."The WORD became FLESH, and dwelt among us". John 1:14. (KJV)
Jesus became FLESH, virgin born.
Jesus is "Emmanuel" the God-Man. "God with Us"
Hi Grail!
My guess is that you do not believe that Christ was actually God in human form?
"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."
Matthew 1:23
I'm just curious
Long story but I am sure that Yeshua is a God. In the Old Testament if you review what is said about the messiah, they forecasted him to be warier king---a human---that would take down their oppressors and but the Jews in a position of power and establish a kingdom---nothing of him dieing.
This is one of the reasons that the Jews rejected him then and today.
Somewhere along the line that changed and the Messiah was a God----the begotten Son of Yahweh.
Again Emmanuel means God (is) with us...not messiah. Again the verse is in a middle of a story. Cherry picking at its finest. The Hebew word Emmanuel has many meanings....
H410 - 'ēl - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (wlc)
H410 - אֵל ʼêl, ale; shortened from ; strength; as adjective, mighty; especially the Almighty (but used also of any deity):—God (god), goodly, great, idol, might(-y one), power, strong. Compare names in '-el.'
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