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[covenantee]

The "he" of the Daniel 9:27 verse is that "vile person"

1599 Geneva Bible

Daniel 9
27 And he [d]shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to [e]cease, [f]and for the overspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

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Footnotes​

1. Daniel 9:27 By the preaching of the Gospel he confirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.
2. Daniel 9:27 Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

According to Davy, Christ is that "vile person".

What to believe?
1. Davy's psychotic hallucinations
2. The Geneva Bible, representing 16 centuries of orthodox Christian doctrine recognizing Christ as the Promise Confirmer of Daniel 9:27.
Who needs a hint, other than Davy who needs a 2x4?

Now let's see you take on @Spiritual Israelite's and @CTK's excellent exegeses.

Don't be afraid.

I'm stocked up on popcorn.

 

[CTK]

Here is a partial cut / paste from my commentary on the book of Daniel - 9:27....

Part 1 of 4

The book of Daniel is not merely a historical record of four successive world empires—it is the most prophetic book in the Tanakh, a divine revelation centering on the Messiah and His plan of salvation for the Jews and for all mankind. He is not a distant figure in the backdrop; He is the main character, and the prophecy is His story—unfolded through kingdoms of His own choosing. From beginning to end, Christ is present in every chapter—visible to all who desire to see Him. But as with all spiritual truth, He can be missed... if one chooses to.


Daniel 9:24–27 is perhaps the most explicitly messianic passage in the Old Testament. These four verses point directly to the Anointed One who would fulfill God’s covenant and complete the work of restoration. But tragically, these verses have not gone untouched. The little horn, described in Daniel 7 and 8, has sought to distort, divert, and disguise the plain meaning of these verses, replacing the message of the Messiah with a counterfeit narrative. This is not speculation. It is part of a long-standing strategy to replace truth with tradition—and to substitute the Messiah’s completed work on the cross with an artificial future drama designed to remove accountability from the true prophetic target.

Within these four verses, several significant actors are mentioned:

The Messiah – the Anointed One, who confirms the covenant, is “cut off,” and fulfills the six objectives of verse 24.

The Jews (“your people”) – the covenant people to whom the seventy weeks are initially appointed.

The people of the prince who is to come – those of pagan Rome, whose descendants later align with the prince who rises to power after Jerusalem’s destruction.

The many – those who would accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior, entering into the New Covenant.

It is vital to stay true to the Word of God, avoiding speculation, additions, or omissions. These verses are not about fabricated timelines or hypothetical antichrists—they are about God’s blueprint, His Son, and His plan of salvation. The Messiah is the Passover Lamb, the final sacrifice, and the Ark of the Covenant restored. He is the "He" referenced throughout this passage. A critical turning point in understanding this passage lies in properly identifying the pronoun “He” in Daniel 9:27a:

“And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week…”

For centuries, it was understood—especially by the early Church and later by the Reformers—that this “He” refers to Jesus Christ, the Messiah. The context supports this:

He is the “Messiah the Prince” of verse 25, who arrives after the sixty-nine weeks.

He is the Messiah who is “cut off, but not for Himself” in verse 26, pointing clearly to the crucifixion.

And He is the one who confirms the covenant in verse 27, precisely in the middle of the final week, fulfilling the prophecy of Jeremiah 31:31–34.

But in the 16th century, a major shift occurred. During the Protestant Reformation, the papacy was widely recognized as the little horn—the power that rose from pagan Rome and fulfilled the prophetic markers of Daniel 7 and 8. To deflect this identification, the Jesuit order, under Francisco Ribera, introduced a counter-interpretation known today as the “gap theory” or the “seven-year tribulation” model. This reinterpretation claimed that the “he” in Daniel 9:27 refers not to the Messiah, but to a yet future antichrist—a political or religious tyrant who would sign a treaty with Israel, break it after 3.5 years, and desecrate a rebuilt third Temple. But such a character is nowhere to be found in the Book of Daniel. Neither Daniel nor the rest of the Old Testament uses the term antichrist. In fact, the only four occurrences of that word are found in John’s epistles, and never in reference to a singular, end-time dictator.

Daniel instead gives us a clear antagonist: the little horn. He is described in precise terms—his origin, his timing, his character, and his actions. There is no ambiguity. The “antichrist” theory, as popularized in modern dispensationalism, is a theological invention—a distraction from the real historical and spiritual fulfillment of Daniel’s prophecy.

Thus, in Daniel 9:27a, “He” confirms the covenant with many (not for a literal week, but during the final week of the prophecy.) And it is in this same week that He is crucified—bringing an end to the sacrificial system not by violence, but by fulfillment. The seventy weeks are complete in Christ. There is no prophetic pause, no 2,000-year gap inserted between verses 26 and 27, nor a 7 year tribulation theory. The prophecy moves in a seamless sequence: restoration, rejection, and consequence—all culminating in the Messiah’s ministry and the aftermath of His rejection.

The deliberate attempt to shift focus from Christ to a fictitious antichrist figure has successfully clouded the meaning of one of the most important messianic prophecies in all of Scripture.

It has hidden the identity of the little horn, removed the papacy from prophetic accountability, and distorted the very center of Daniel’s seventy-week vision: the cross. But when we let the Word interpret itself—within its immediate and broader biblical context—it becomes clear:

The “He” in Daniel 9:27 is Jesus, not a future dictator.

The “covenant” confirmed is the New Covenant, not a political treaty.

The final seven years are already fulfilled, not awaiting a future tribulation.

The prophecy is complete, not interrupted.

This is God's blueprint for salvation, unveiled through His servant Daniel. It is not about escaping the future. It is about recognizing what has already been done—in Christ—and receiving the gift of restoration He offers to both Jews and Gentiles alike.

 

[CTK]

Here is a partial cut / paste from my commentary on the book of Daniel - 9:27....

Part 2 of 4


He and the Covenant

The verses in Daniel 9 are a direct response to Daniel’s prayer—a prayer grounded in covenant faithfulness, confession, and longing for restoration. And the divine answer he receives is nothing less than a prophetic blueprint for salvation, culminating in the coming of the Messiah, the Anointed One. This chapter does not concern itself with some fictitious end-time tyrant manufactured by later church traditions. It is centered on the Messiah, Jesus Christ— “He” who was promised from the beginning, and who would accomplish His Father’s mission as outlined in verse 9:24. “He” in verse 27a refers to the Messiah.


This Messiah is the one to “confirm the covenant with many during the final week.” He is not a future political antichrist entering into a treaty with Israel, as imagined by post-Reformation interpretations. Rather, He is the same “Messiah the Prince” of verse 25, who comes after the sixty-nine weeks, and is then “cut off, but not for Himself” in verse 26. The covenant He confirms is not new in origin—it is the same covenant God gave to Moses, rooted in the promises to Abraham, but now perfected and fulfilled in Him. It is no longer ratified with the blood of bulls and goats, but with His own blood.

As Hebrews explains: The old covenant was incomplete—it could not remove sin (Hebrews 10:1–4). The new covenant is better because it is built on a better sacrifice (Hebrews 9:12), a better priesthood (Hebrews 7:22), and a better promise (Hebrews 8:6). The old covenant marked God’s people with physical circumcision; the new covenant marks His people with circumcision of the heart (Philippians 3:3). This is the covenant of Jeremiah 31:31–34—a covenant written not on tablets of stone, but inwardly, on the hearts of those who accept it. It is personal, permanent, and unalterable. It no longer depends on man’s external rituals or priestly mediators. It is now between God and the individual, sealed by the Holy Spirit.

“They shall all know Me… for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.” (Jeremiah 31:34)

The Messiah’s blood inaugurates this new covenant (Matthew 26:28), making it possible for both Jew and Gentile to be reconciled to God. The “one week” of Daniel 9:27 is the final week of the seventy-weeks prophecy—a literal seven-year period. In the middle of the week, after 3.5 years of ministry, Jesus was crucified, thus confirming the covenant not with rituals, but with His blood. He fulfilled every sacrificial shadow. The daily sacrifices, the Day of Atonement, the blood on the mercy seat—all of it pointed to Him. As Ephesians 2:13–16 says:

“But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ… so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace… that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross.”

He has torn down the veil, removed the dividing wall, and reconciled Jew and Gentile into one spiritual body. Modern eschatology has often replaced this beautiful covenant-centered narrative with a fear-based futurist theory, built on a Jesuit counter-reformation strategy that sought to shield the Roman Church from prophetic scrutiny. The redefinition of “he” in Daniel 9:27 as a future “antichrist” was never part of the early Church’s understanding—it is a recent invention, unsupported by the text of Daniel or the broader context of Scripture.

There is no reference in Daniel to a covenant signed by an evil world leader.

There is no mention of a rebuilt temple in the end times within this passage.

There is no seven-year tribulation constructed around a gap in the timeline.

These interpretations strip the Messiah of His central role in fulfilling the prophecy and mislead generations into waiting for what has already been fulfilled: the crucifixion of Christ and the confirmation of the New Covenant.

The Many

The next key term in Daniel 9:27 is “many”—a word that speaks not of exclusivity but of the multitude who would receive and accept the Messiah’s gift. In verse 24, God declares that this prophecy is for Daniel’s people, the Jews. And in verse 27, He reveals that the covenant would be confirmed with many—not necessarily all. This matches the language and tone of other Messianic prophecies. Consider Isaiah 53:11–12, where the suffering Servant—Jesus—is said to justify many and bear their iniquities:

“By His knowledge shall My righteous servant justify many; for He shall bear their iniquities… He was numbered with the transgressors; and He bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.”

The “many” here are those who would recognize and receive the gift of salvation. They are the Jews who believed, as well as the Gentiles who were grafted in through faith. Jesus Himself echoes this in Matthew 26:28 as He institutes the New Covenant:

“For this is My blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.”

This New Covenant, confirmed with His own blood, is extended to many—Jews and Gentiles alike—who would accept it by faith. But it is not imposed on all. Just as in Daniel’s day, God still honors the power of human choice.

 

[CTK]

Here is a partial cut / paste from my commentary on the book of Daniel - 9:27....

Part 3 of 4

He Shall Bring an End

The “He” in this passage is not some future antichrist. It is Jesus Christ, the same “Anointed One” mentioned in verse 25. He is the One who confirms the covenant (v.27a), is cut off (v.26), and brings a final end to the Levitical system through the sacrifice of Himself. This is the Messiah, foretold and promised, not some malevolent figure inserted into prophecy by human reinterpretation centuries later. When He cried out on the cross, “It is finished” (John 19:30), it was not a cry of defeat but a proclamation of completion. His mission—defined by the six divine tasks in Daniel 9:24—was accomplished in full.

To Sacrifice and Offering

The phrase “He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering” directly addresses the Levitical system that had operated for over 1,500 years since Mt. Sinai.

Through His death on the cross, Jesus fulfilled every symbol and shadow represented in the sanctuary—every lamb, every sin offering, every annual atonement ceremony. All pointed to Him. At the very moment of His death:

The Temple veil was torn from top to bottom (Matthew 27:51), signifying the end of the earthly priesthood and the removal of the barrier between God and man.​

The sacrifices were rendered obsolete, not by temple destruction or enemy invasion, but by the perfect sacrifice—the Lamb of God slain for the sin of the world.​

The covenant was confirmed—not abandoned, not replaced, but fulfilled in accordance with Jeremiah 31:31–34, where God promised to write His law upon our hearts.​

This was not symbolic theology or poetic vision. It was real, historical, and spiritual fulfillment. Within 3.5 years, Jesus had perfectly kept and fulfilled the Law, revealed the heart of the Father, and offered Himself as the final, once-for-all sacrifice (Hebrews 10:10–14).

This singular moment in Daniel 9:27b also resonates with the broader scope of prophecy—especially the 2,300 evenings and mornings (Daniel 8:14). The “cleansing of the sanctuary” began not with a third Temple or a future antichrist, but with Jesus entering the heavenly sanctuary as High Priest after His resurrection (Hebrews 9:11–14). The earthly temple had served its purpose. It was no longer the center of worship—heaven was.

The events of the cross were not isolated—they were deeply embedded in a divine timeline that included:

The seventy-week prophecy (Daniel 9)​

The 2,300-day vision (Daniel 8)​

The Passover fulfillment​

And the complete and permanent abolition of the Levitical system​

Everything aligned. Every symbol found its substance. Every shadow met its light. Jesus was not a casualty of human betrayal—He was the architect and finisher of salvation’s plan.

The seventy weeks were never random. They were designed to lead us to this very moment: the cross. This is the centerpiece of time. It divides covenants, fulfills prophecy, and makes reconciliation possible.

By the middle of the final week, Jesus did exactly what Daniel foretold.​

He brought an end to sacrifice and offering.​

He fulfilled the covenant.​

He opened the way to eternal life.​

No future “week” is necessary. No future temple needs to be rebuilt.​

It is finished.​

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[JLB]

Daniel 9:27 By the preaching of the Gospel he confirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

please show where Jesus made a covenant for 7 years.

 

[CTK]

Here is a partial cut / paste from my commentary on the book of Daniel - 9:27....

Part 4 of 4


One Week

The phrase “one week” has been a focal point of significant theological distortion—most notably within the “gap theory” and the concept of a future seven-year tribulation governed by a fictitious antichrist. This interpretation, introduced by Jesuit scholars during the Counter-Reformation, was designed to deflect attention away from the papacy’s role in prophecy. It inserts a 2,000-year gap between the 69th and 70th week—something the text never indicates.

In contrast, the original context is both clear and continuous. The “one week” refers to the final seven years of the seventy-weeks-of-years prophecy (490 literal years). It is not an isolated or future event, but rather the climactic period of the prophecy—the very moment in history when the Messiah arrives, ministers, is cut off, and confirms the covenant.

The Hebrew construction supports this continuous timeline, and various Bible translations (e.g., “for one week,” “during the week,” “in one week”) do not alter its meaning. It simply marks the final segment of the prophetic 490-year period. This is the week during which Jesus begins His ministry at age 30 (27 AD), is cut off in the middle of the week (31 AD), and causes the sacrifice and oblation to cease. The remaining 3.5 years—up to 34 AD—complete the seventy weeks, during which the gospel continues to be preached exclusively to the Jews until Stephen’s stoning marks the turning point to the Gentiles.

 

[JLB]

The “He” in this passage is not some future antichrist. It is Jesus Christ, the same “Anointed One” mentioned in verse 25.

“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
Daniel 9:26


Messiah shall be cut off - 33AD

destroy the city and the sanctuary. - 70


So far the 70th week has not occured.


The prophetic time line has run up to the year 70 AD and the 70th week hasn’t started.


This is just one of the things we need to understand that Jesus referred to.


“Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), Matthew 24:15




When you understand this one detail, you will no longer try to convince people that Jesus made a 7 year covenant with the Jews.

 

[covenantee]

please show where Jesus made a covenant for 7 years.

Jesus confirmed His Covenant with Israel, for 3 1/2 years of His own ministry, followed by 3 1/2 years of His disciples' ministry.

 

[covenantee]

“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
Daniel 9:26


Messiah shall be cut off - 33AD

destroy the city and the sanctuary. - 70


So far the 70th week has not occured.


The prophetic time line has run up to the year 70 AD and the 70th week hasn’t started.


This is just one of the things we need to understand that Jesus referred to.


“Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), Matthew 24:15




When you understand this one detail, you will no longer try to convince people that Jesus made a 7 year covenant with the Jews.

When you understand that your decapitated undetermined 70th week does not comport with Daniel's prophecy, then there is no alternative but to abandon it.

 

[CTK]

“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
Daniel 9:26


Messiah shall be cut off - 33AD

destroy the city and the sanctuary. - 70


So far the 70th week has not occured.


The prophetic time line has run up to the year 70 AD and the 70th week hasn’t started.


This is just one of the things we need to understand that Jesus referred to.


“Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), Matthew 24:15




When you understand this one detail, you will no longer try to convince people that Jesus made a 7 year covenant with the Jews.

I believe you may have misunderstood this “7 year covenant.”

He did not make a 7 year covenant but the covenant was made DURING the last 7 years of the prophecy. The wording was intentionally changed from “DURING” to “FOR.”

Meaning, the Messiah would arrive and be baptized in the Jordan on the first day of the last week of the prophecy (last 7 years). He would also be “cut off” in the middle of those same final 7 years, and He would CONFIRM the New Covenant DURING these same final 7 years.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

FUNNY! covenantee thinks to falsely claim that I... am the one guilty of blasphemy against Christ Jesus when it is covenantee that WRONGLY BELIEVES JESUS SETUP THE "ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION" IDOL DURING HIS MINISTRY!

See brethren in Jesus Christ, ANYONE who believes that Lord Jesus fulfilled the final 70th "one week" prophecy of Daniel 9:27 during Christ's Ministry are BLASPHEMING JESUS CHRIST, AND THE FATHER!

And covenantee has already shown he believes Jesus fulfilled that final 70th week during His Ministry.

What a liar you are. He never said anything about Jesus setting up an abomination of desolation idol. That is a blatant, evil lie on your part. You have nothing to offer but lies because you can't defend your own false beliefs with scripture.

 

[covenantee]

What a liar you are. He never said anything about Jesus setting up an abomination of desolation idol. That is a blatant, evil lie on your part. You have nothing to offer but lies because you can't defend your own false beliefs with scripture.

He's both a liar and a fool. There might be some hope if he were one or the other. There's no hope for someone who's both.

 

[HealthyShape]

Well, I read the whole chapter 9 and I have no idea why people complicate it so much. It seems quite simple. 70 weeks (490 years) was left for Israel and for the city since the decree to rebuild Jerusalem (happened in 457/458 BCE, Artaxerxes' decree to Ezra).

Then the Messiah was supposed to come (-457+490 = cca 33 AD) and the temple and the city (Jerusalem) to be destroyed ("this generation" = 70 AD).

The end of story. The end of the Jewish age.

Since then, the kingdom of God has been spreading through the Earth like the rock that fills the Earth in the other Daniel's vision.

 

[jeffweeder]

Well, I read the whole chapter 9 and I have no idea why people complicate it so much. It seems quite simple.

I must admit I have thought the same thing

70 weeks (490 years) was left for Israel and for the city since the decree to rebuild Jerusalem (happened in 457/458 BCE, Artaxerxes' decree to Ezra).

You got the date of the decree right, I agree.

Then the Messiah was supposed to come and the temple and the city (Jerusalem) to be destroyed ("this generation" = 70 AD).

I am not seeing that anywhere in the text we are discussing, the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple

The text...,

24 “Seventy weeks [of years, or 490 years] have been decreed for your people and for your holy city (Jerusalem),

to finish the transgression,
to make an end of sins,
to make atonement (reconciliation) for wickedness,
to bring in everlasting righteousness (right-standing with God),
to seal up vision and prophecy and prophet, and
to anoint the Most Holy Place.


Jesus spoke about the future destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in the olivet discourse, and that occurred 40 years later. You would do well here to listen to him

So it is all about Atonement....a 6-fold once and for all complete and utter everlastingly righteous Atonement.

 

[HealthyShape]

I am not seeing that anywhere in the text we are discussing, the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple

The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.
He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him
D 9:26-27

'So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place', then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.”
Mt 24:15

 

[jeffweeder]

The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.
He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him
D 9:26-27

'So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place', then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.”
Mt 24:15

Please reread the text we were discussing.

Jesus, in the olivet discourse, told his disciples they would suffer tribulation after his death and resurrection,(Atonement once for all ) and the gospel would go to the whole world.
It went to the Jew first for the remaining 3 1/2 years of the last and final week when Jesus victoriously and courageously completed 70 week 6 fold Atonement for the sins of the whole world, along with the testimony of the very ones he chose.

70 weeks for Daniels people Israel until Messiah ...., and then the confirmed Covenant of Gods new and living way went to the Gentiles.

 

[HealthyShape]

Please reread the text we were discussing.

Jesus, in the olivet discourse, told his disciples they would suffer tribulation after his death and resurrection,(Atonement once for all ) and the gospel would go to the whole world.
It went to the Jew first for the remaining 3 1/2 years of the last and final week when Jesus victoriously and courageously completed 70 week 6 fold Atonement for the sins of the whole world, along with the testimony of the very ones he chose.

70 weeks for Daniels people Israel until Messiah ...., and then the confirmed Covenant of Gods new and living way went to the Gentiles.

My post was about the whole text in Daniel ch. 9.

When this chapter is read simply, without drowning in ambiguous details and useless speculations, it says that 490 years is left for the nation of Israel and the city, then the Messiah will come and then the end will come, the destruction of the temple and of the city.

All happened in the 1st century and Jesus referred to this chapter, when He was warning His disciples to flee when they will see the Roman legions preparing around Jerusalem.

Since 70 AD, everything is fulfilled and the kingdom of God is growing and transforming the world and nations.

 

[CTK]

My post was about the whole text in Daniel ch. 9.

When this chapter is read simply, without drowning in ambiguous details and useless speculations, it says that 490 years is left for the nation of Israel and the city, then the Messiah will come and then the end will come, the destruction of the temple and of the city.

All happened in the 1st century and Jesus referred to this chapter, when He was warning His disciples to flee when they will see the Roman legions preparing around Jerusalem.

Since 70 AD, everything is fulfilled and the kingdom of God is growing and transforming the world and nations.

Agree with you but the details are truly amazing.

 

[SteveSmid]

IMPOSSIBLE, and that THEORY actually reveals BIBLICAL ILLITERACY, no matter how much one tries to USE Bible Scripture to attempt to support it.

The 70 weeks prophecy in Daniel 9 MUST match up to the time of Jesus of Nazareth's Ministry here on earth. Thus there can be ONLY ONE 70 WEEKS PROPHECY, not two. Wrongly suggesting a 2nd 70 weeks period exists for the END of this world when there is NO SUCH IDEA written ANYWHERE in God's Word, is just pure radical speculation, roulette wheel thinking.

Hi Davy: Old Testament scripture does not say there will be two advents of Christ. Second Temple period thought the suffering servant and conquering king were separate messiahs. Paul said if the truth had been known ahead of time, the Christ would not have been crucified. Apply that logic to the Second Coming. No scripture describes a big gap in between the 69th week and the final week. Regardless, if you do stick with it, you could believe that week is happening now, and that the Abomination of Desolation occurred on 10/7/23. That's a hard date, so 1290 days later 4/19/27, we should understand who the antichrist is, and then look to the clouds.

 

[SteveSmid]

When did the first declaration occur, and once it is fulfilled,...why the need for a second set?

24 “Seventy weeks [of years, or 490 years] have been decreed for your people and for your holy city (Jerusalem)

, to finish the transgression,
to make an end of sins,
to make atonement (reconciliation) for wickedness,
to bring in everlasting righteousness (right-standing with God)
, to seal up vision and prophecy and prophet
, and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

25 So you are to know and understand that from the issuance of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until [the coming of] the Messiah (the Anointed One), the Prince, there will be seven weeks [of years] and sixty-two weeks [of years]; it will be built again, with [a city] plaza and moat, even in times of trouble.


Clearly the Messiah is Jesus, who is anointed to complete the work of salvation.

, to finish the transgression,
to make an end of sins,
to make atonement (reconciliation) for wickedness,
to bring in everlasting righteousness (right-standing with God)
, to seal up vision and prophecy and prophet
, and to anoint the Most Holy Place.


Heb 9 confirms,
11 But when Christ appeared as a High Priest of the good things to come [that is, true spiritual worship], He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not a part of this [material] creation. 12 He went once for all into the Holy Place [the Holy of Holies of heaven, into the presence of God], and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, having obtained and secured eternal redemption [that is, the salvation of all who personally believe in Him as Savior]. 13 For if the sprinkling of [ceremonially] defiled persons with the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a [burnt] heifer is sufficient for the cleansing of the body, 14 how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal [Holy] Spirit willingly offered Himself unblemished [that is, without moral or spiritual imperfection as a sacrifice] to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works and lifeless observances to serve the ever living God?

15 For this reason He is the Mediator and Negotiator of a new covenant [that is, an entirely new agreement uniting God and man], so that those who have been called [by God] may receive [the fulfillment of] the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has taken place [as the payment] which redeems them from the sins committed under the obsolete first covenant. 16 For where there is a will and testament involved, the death of the one who made it must be established, 17 for a will and testament takes effect [only] at death, since it is never in force as long as the one who made it is alive. 18 So even the first covenant was not put in force without [the shedding of] blood. 19 For when every commandment in the Law had been read by Moses to all the people, he took the blood of the calves and goats [which had been sacrificed], together with water and scarlet wool and with a bunch of hyssop, and he sprinkled both the scroll itself and all the people, 20 saying, “This is the blood of the covenant [that seals and ratifies the agreement] which God ordained and commanded [me to deliver to] you.” 21 And in the same way he sprinkled both the tabernacle and all the containers and sacred utensils of worship with the blood. 22 In fact under the Law almost everything is cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness [neither release from sin and its guilt, nor cancellation of the merited punishment].

23 Therefore it was necessary for the [earthly] copies of the heavenly things to be cleansed with these, but the heavenly things themselves required far better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with hands, a mere copy of the true one, but [He entered] into heaven itself, now to appear in the very presence of God on our behalf; 25 nor did He [enter into the heavenly sanctuary to] offer Himself again and again, as the high priest enters the Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26 Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer over and over since the foundation of the world; but now once for all at the consummation of the ages He has appeared and been publicly manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And just as it is appointed and destined for all men to die once and after this [comes certain] judgment, 28 so Christ, having been offered once and once for all to bear [as a burden] the sins of many, will appear a second time [when he returns to earth], not to deal with sin, but to bring salvation to those who are eagerly and confidently waiting for Him.


No need for a second set. The last red paragraph tells us all we need to know.

Jeff: I see people sinning every five minutes--and I'm one of them. The most holy place is still supervised by Jordan and Jews are not allowed to pray there. There will be a Second Advent to finish off the reasons for Christ crucifixion. When Christ came the first time, most didn't recognize Him even when he brought the dead back to life. The end times will not be how any of us exist, and if 10/7/23 was the Abomination of Desolation, then I sure couldn't have predicted it. The sacrifices were preempted--says the bad guys. Points you made above can be right, and so can a narrative viewpoint. God can handle both being right.