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I have no shame in going against the status quo of all these people who continue to believe the traditions of man concerning hell....

Taking a stand for Jesus, is a much better ministry, but if you want to take a stand for "anti-hell".....heresy, then stand up and be counted some more, @MatthewG .
And dont claim that Jesus didnt teach about Hell, and warn against it, as He taught more about Hell then He did about Heaven.

(thats in the bible). "study to show thyself approved unto God"......Paul teaches.
 
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I'm so thankful what God has done, and what Jesus has done for the whole of the world.


If you just take time to read Revelation 21, 22, you can see there are people whom are outside the gates of hell...

Anyone telling you they are not, are lying.

Or- - they do not believe that Jesus had already came.
 

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I don't have to respond to the person whom is trying to talk to me.

If you come to me, and get angry with me because you told me you like using Psychodelic Mushrooms, and then you throw a tantrum because i told you to go to the "Prayer Forum" and let us pray for your deliverance....and you wont have it......then im not surprised by anything you say., next.
 

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Anyone telling you that God is torturing people and he loves it and thinks its fun is also lying to you.

I dont know what the guy that is trying to talk to me is even talking about.

He is annoying so i just ignore him.
 

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If you just take time to read Revelation 21, 22, you can see there are people whom are outside the gates of hell...

Jesus's Cross is the only way out of Hell.... John 14:6
Its the only way out of John 3:36.
Not Rev 21-22.
 

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Please refer back to the first post, and only comment concering the subject.


If you believe people are going to hell just say so I dont care.
I dont believe you though.

Just be like "I "so and so" disagree with you and people are going straight to hell today!"


Okay?
 

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Anyone telling you that God is torturing people and he loves it and thinks its fun is also lying to you.

Was the Cross of Christ a Torture for God's only begotten Son?

Jesus was beaten before He was Whipped......and the beating was so savage that the NT explains that He was "marred beyond recognition".
and then the Scourging, and then The Cross.

That is GOD's WILL for His SON.

And you think that Christ rejectors are not going to face a harsh eternity, starting in Hell...

See, you dont understand God's Love, and that is why you dont understand God's Justice and Judgement against SIN.
 

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While people are gonna tell you what they believe and even quote scripture, and not conclude the revelation are missing a great deal of sections concerning what is going on with that hell place.

Also they mis-quote Jesus making it for someone like myself today when Jesus was talking to Jews.
 

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I'm so glad Jesus paid the price of mankinds sins once and for all.

All the past, present, future sins have been taken care of once and for all...

The writer of Hebrews mentions it somewhere.
 

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It sucks that many people just don't give a dang.


they harp on sin cause they love to make people slaves to themselves rather than God.
 

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It sucks that many people just don't give a dang.

Was the Cross of Christ a Torture for God's only begotten Son?

Jesus was beaten before He was Whipped......and the beating was so savage that the NT explains that He was "marred beyond recognition".
and then the Scourging, and then The Cross.

That is GOD's WILL for His SON.

And you think that Christ rejectors are not going to face a harsh eternity, starting in Hell...

See, you dont understand God's Love, and that is why you dont understand God's Justice and Judgement against SIN.
 

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This guy can talk and quote me all he wants to but i dont give a dang.

I'm so happy Jesus took on sin for all of mankind... and God raised him up on the third day.

God reconciled the world unto himself, but people who just are only "Gospel Christian" people that is all they read, they never go on to maturity, always replaying the doctrines of Christ.

The writer of hebrew mentions concerning moving forward after you get that down --- if God so permits.

I hope for this person to be able to move on from it one day!
 

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I'm so thankful what God has done, and what Jesus has done for the whole of the world.


If you just take time to read Revelation 21, 22, you can see there are people whom are outside the gates of hell...

Anyone telling you they are not, are lying.

Or- - they do not believe that Jesus had already came.

That's in 22:15, and the dogs "without" and sorcerers and whoremongers, etc., are without the right to the Tree of Life 22:14.

They are not outside the gates, they are in the Lake of fire!

You do greatly err assuming this!
 

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@MatthewG .

if a person goes to Hell.....its because they died in their sin, and that becomes in Eternity, = the unpardonable sin, because there is no forgiveness found for you if you have died in your sins.......unforgiven.
And the way you die in your sins, is to never be forgiven, which means you died a Christ rejector, never born again.
You have committed the Unpardonable sin and died.
And if you read Heb 10:26, you read where Jewish Christ rejectors are committing the unpardonable sin of rejecting theirr Savior, their Messiah.......Jesus The Lord.


So, THAT PERSON... Jew or Gentile, if they die today or tomorrow or yesterday, is now in Hell.

And what are they doing there?
They are trying to get out......... And how are they trying to get out of Hell?
They are telling God.....>"OH GOD< i DO BELIEVE.. OH GOD....I DO TRUST IN CHRIST">.... and God ignores them., forever.
FOREVER.
Why?
Because once you are in HELL, you SEE Hell,.... and you KNOW you are in it. .....So that is PROOF that God, and Hell and JESUS are all REAL.
And now you KNOW IT because you SEE IT....and that is not FAITH........That is "seeing is believing" and God requires FAITH in what you can't SEE to save you.......And that is why you have to TRUST in CHRIST before you DIE....as this way, you are believing in what you can't SEE, and that is Genuine FAITH that God accepts.
Your faith is not accepted in Hell.
You can't be born again, in Hell.
 

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Someone else mentions they are not outside the gates of the kingdom, but Revelation states they are so.

Be careful of what you read from other people! Go read it for yourself.

Yes, people do have a part of the lake of fire -- perhaps there is something spiritual one can gain from this. They are not there forever.

but your fleshly mind and way is not gonna come up with anything remotely worth while.
 

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I wish people who are trying to talk to me would go away, but in this day in age people love to dog people down and try to break them mentally


You gotta be careful reading peoples post and what they say, sometimes what they say isnt worth 2 pennies.

You are the decision maker - and you are the one whom can go and read the bible if you so choose. I so hope the holy spirit/spirit of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ leads you to truth that sets you free.
 

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So many people wanna play judge and commander but that is not their job.

Lol. God will judge and he will judge rightly, and many people who love their doctrine will always place their trust in their so called doctrine....

Put trust in God instead, may he lead you to the truth.
 

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Someone else mentions they are not outside the gates of the kingdom, but Revelation states they are so.

Be careful of what you read from other people! Go read it for yourself.

Yes, people do have a part of the lake of fire -- perhaps there is something spiritual one can gain from this. They are not there forever.

but your fleshly mind and way is not gonna come up with anything remotely worth while.

I think it obvious no one can say anything to change your mind, even though you can prove nothing of what you say!

It's nothing more than a hope with good intentions, but not Biblical.
 

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No one can change my mind, on what Revelation 21, and 22 states.

It seems the Unveiling of another party outside of the kingdom of heaven continues to remain true.

Atleast I believe faithfully! God is good, and he does love and did love the whole world that he reconciled it to himself through his son.

So many people hate the world, they hate their country, they hate their living situations.
 

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I wish people who are trying to talk to me would go away, but in this day in age people love to dog people down and try to break them mentally
Tell 'em to

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