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MatthewG

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Nah lambano LOL


sO funny... that is the common factor.

I had someone on chat - say "he can die" because they hate me so much cause I encourage people to actively use ignore, hide, mute, LOL.

Silly ol Gal. Oh well, I cut her out my life long time ago she like my sister, we never got along...

I rather her leave me alone be no were near me yet I still love her and hope God helps her


I love freedom, and I love that God truly loves us all.
 

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No one can change my mind, on what Revelation 21, and 22 states.

It seems the Unveiling of another party outside of the kingdom of heaven continues to remain true.

Atleast I believe faithfully! God is good, and he does love and did love the whole world that he reconciled it to himself through his son.

So many people hate the world, they hate their country, they hate their living situations.

We know your intentions are good, they are just not Biblical.

No one doubts your faith, at least I don't.
 

MatthewG

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This man who states im unbiblical

Cool.


Im gonna stick to what ive done shared, and people can judge on their own time.

It most certianly is the audience who judges isnt it.

Im glad that God has already got the outside and inside of the kingdom already set up, and people continue to either go in or stay out.
I love how the Kingdom has 12 gates around it and they never close.
 

MatthewG

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See people dont wanna try to assess by the spirit, they just want you to know you are wrong because they dont accept that view or version.

they wanna win the case by merit of the flesh and that is not how this works.
 

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This man who states im unbiblical

Cool.


Im gonna stick to what ive done shared, and people can judge on their own time.

It most certianly is the audience who judges isnt it.

I agree! Let everyone decide for themselves if Universalism is in the Scripture.

Or if it's just a hope that can't be proven.
 

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It sucks people don't believe they have the resurrected Lord Yeshua inside of them to help them be able to love their neighbor, even love their own country, and love the world that we live in.

They just want to win by the flesh, and that is not how this works...

The Spirit leads you to the truth, not the flesh saying this is the truth.
 

Charlie24

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It sucks people don't believe they have the resurrected Lord Yeshua inside of them to help them be able to love their neighbor, even love their own country, and love the world that we live in.

They just want to win by the flesh, and that is not how this works...

The Spirit leads you to the truth, not the flesh saying this is the truth.

It's true the Spirit confirms truth, but it's the truth He has given us in His Word, no more no less.

We don't know all of His truth, not yet.

We can only know what He has given us so far through His Word.

It's possible Universalism is a result God has chosen, but we don't know that from what He has so far given us.

Let's just say that Universalism (UR) is a hope, but for sure not a fact.
 

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I don't believe in universalism...


So... there is that.


 

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People that say or talk about me behind my back to others of being some type of universalist are wrong... they dont even know my views nor even ask me concerning them.



Everyone is just fixated on "fixing a problem I got" or "my odd beliefs."
 

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I don't believe in universalism...


So... there is that.



What you believe is a form of Universalism, that Hell/Lake of Fire has an end.
 

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What you believe is a form of Universalism, that Hell/Lake of Fire has an end.

The UR uses Rev. 22:15 quite often as you have done, not having any idea what it means.

So don't tell me you're not a Universalist, or some form of it.
 

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I can't help what Revelation 22:15 says, but I believe it :)
 

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@Charlie24 what sucks is that you cant explain it or anything to me.

You say just nope.
 

MatthewG

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Lol!













That sucks though, that means you aren't really even asking God for wisdom on it or anything.

It's rather sad to me.
 

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Lol!













That sucks though, that means you aren't really even asking God for wisdom on it or anything.

It's rather sad to me.

God has given me the ability to see that the UR or any form of it can't prove anything they say.

Every single thing they come up with has been shot down. It's just a well intentioned hope.
 

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Oh well, I don't care about universalism so thats a lost cause for me.

I do care about what the bible says, and I believe people are outside the kingdom of heaven and that people who may choose in that field to come to God, are going through the fire that comes from God and meet the truth about Jesus....

I dont say Satan - he was done away forever... so...

I believe God is Good, not bad. Many people say God hates people, so.

I just can go on what the bible says, I dont believe all ways leads to God, but Jesus is the narrow gate. I dont know what universalism suggest all I know is that.

Just as adam and eve were separated in the Garden.
So will unfaithful and faithful people at the end of life.

The fire though continues on ward cause God is a consuming fire.

I just remember what the spirit suggest, over what man says.

Cause there many people suggesting they are annihlated and God hated them or that people are still in hell when its over with so...

It comes down to the individual and yes, hope is always great.


but hope for your neighbor to be burned up forever and ever and ever... is a evil thing.

Cause even believers go through the fire - they are baptised with spirit and fire from Yeshua.
 

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Oh well, I don't care about universalism so thats a lost cause for me.

I do care about what the bible says, and I believe people are outside the kingdom of heaven and that people who may choose in that field to come to God, are going through the fire that comes from God and meet the truth about Jesus....

I dont say Satan - he was done away forever... so...

I believe God is Good, not bad. Many people say God hates people, so.

I just can go on what the bible says, I dont believe all ways leads to God, but Jesus is the narrow gate. I dont know what universalism suggest all I know is that.

Just as adam and eve were separated in the Garden.
So will unfaithful and faithful people at the end of life.

The fire though continues on ward cause God is a consuming fire.

I just remember what the spirit suggest, over what man says.

Cause there many people suggesting they are annihlated and God hated them or that people are still in hell when its over with so...

It comes down to the individual and yes, hope is always great.


but hope for your neighbor to be burned up forever and ever and ever... is a evil thing.

Cause even believers go through the fire - they are baptised with spirit and fire from Yeshua.

I don't know what to think, Matthew. It sounds like a form of purgatory or something of that nature.

You're all over the place and specific on nothing.

I personally have never wished anyone to be tormented in the Lake of Fire forever.

But that is what the Scripture says, but then again, we don't know all that God has in store and is not yet revealed.
 

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That's why I love the resurrected Yeshua Christ that lives in my body.

He reveals things to me. I don't have to please anyone with my explinations.

They aren't gonna make sense if a person isn't abiding Jesus anyway.

The bible never says people are in the lake of fire forever. It does for Satan, the false prophet, and the beast. Idk how to explain that one truly.
 

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That's why I love the resurrected Yeshua Christ that lives in my body.

He reveals things to me. I don't have to please anyone with my explinations.

They aren't gonna make sense if a person isn't abiding Jesus anyway.

The bible never says people are in the lake of fire forever. It does for Satan, the false prophet, and the beast. Idk how to explain that one truly.

The Spirit has revealed things to all of us who truly trust in Him, but it's always according the knowledge we find in His Word.

The test is does what we think He has revealed line up with Scripture?

But you are wrong, my friend. The Scripture says that Satan, the anti-christ, and the false prophet will be tormented in forever in the Lake of Fire, and the rest will have their part in the Lake of Fire, which is the Second death.

Rev. 21:8

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

The Second Death is eternal separation from God!