Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

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You have spoken a prophecy right from the throne of God that everybody will be saved eventually. All the way that even the devil will sit at the left hand of God the Father and Christ on the right hand of God the Father.

And what if you are wrong ?
Then it serves as a refreshing view of the Creator, not as the never ending Judge of 1/3 of the angels and the majority of humans, but of an extremely merciful and gracious Father figure.
What if the wish is the father of the doctrine ?
Not sure what you mean here
 
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Then it serves as a refreshing view of the Creator, not as the never ending Judge of 1/3 of the angels and the majority of humans, but of an extremely merciful and gracious Father figure.

Not sure what you mean here
But you said ALL HUMANS are going to Hell FOREVER ! Did you forget?
 

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Arn't you the person who told us that you dont use a Bible, and you get all your revelations from voices inside your head instead? @One 2 question
My posts would confirm that I make reference to the bible more than most on this thread. I have memorised and applied God's expressed thoughts that are found in the bible for 50 years now.

Do I go to the bible as my first port of call when it comes to finding answers to questions, forming/reforming doctrinal beliefs, gaining a knowledge of the Creator, accessing all truth and every word that proceeds from the mouth of God? No. I haven't made this my practice for years.

I have been going through a transformation in thinking, belief and practice. We, the Holy Spirit and I consult eachother first before consulting anyone or anything. The relationship I have with the Person of God's Spirit has over time become stronger than my relationship with the bibles and other fellow human teachings.

Some may mock this relationship we have but what if you are wrong in your judgement? What if it's not evil unclean spirits I hear but the Holy Spirit, not sent by Satan, but God?

On the day of Pentecost the God fearing Jews misunderstood and mocked the coming and workings of the Spirit of God, sent from God. This has continued to happen ever since that incredible day when the Creator sent His Spirit to enter into humans and changed the world forever.

I for one will not be mocking, blaspheming or showing contempt towards the Gift of God made available to us humans. I don't reject God my Father, nor Jesus my Lord and certainly not Their precious Gift, Holy Spirit.
 
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Friend coddling dont work . Though i do appreciate the fact you are warning .
Its not WHAT IF he is wrong . HE IS wrong , dead wrong
As i am sure you do agree we are to preach ONE gospel
not two .
And the one true gospel DARN SURE SAID YE MUST BELEIVE AND CONFESS JESUS THE CHRIST to be saved .
The fantastic truth is that many are called but few are chosen to participate in Jesus's 1000 year kingdom. The gospel.

They rest, the many, will not.

But way beyond this period, after the many serve time for their offences, according to God's righteous judgment, the many will repent, responding to God's irresistible love and God will forgive, redeem and reconcile not only the prodigal angels but every human. For its not God's will and Hes not wiling that any perish but all come to repentance. And that's exactly what I saw in a vision. Now this is good news, the gospel of the benevolence of the Creator. God is love!
SO here is my warning to these people
who try and preach a, well another gospel .
Beware lest that come upon you which was written
BEHOLD , wonder AND PERISH . notice that says PERISH
for i work a work in your days that you will in no wise beleive though a man declare it unto you .
THERE AINT no universal salvation to those who reject JESUS
THERE IS ONLY THIS
ALL liars , UNBELEIVERS , LAKE OF FIRE be their home .
And there's MORE, MUCH MORE my friend. God has sooo much more to say, soooo much more to reveal. You have so much catching up to do. As do I. God is love my friend. The greatest fruit of God's character, the Father, the Son and His Spirit is LOVE.
And we darn sure dont want to add too or take from that book , KNOW what i MEAN .
What book are you refering too? The book John wrote, from which you've referenced? The scriptures? The 80 books, 73, 66, 11 books of the various bibles compiled over the past 2000 years?
 
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The fantastic truth is that many are called but few are chosen to participate in Jesus's 1000 year kingdom. The gospel.

They rest, the many, will not.

But way beyond this period, after the many serve time for their offences, according to God's righteous judgment, the many will repent, responding to God's irresistible love and God will forgive, redeem and reconcile not only the prodigal angels but every human. For its not God's will and Hes not wiling that any perish but all come to repentance. And that's exactly what I saw in a vision. Now this is good news, the gospel of the benevolence of the Creator. God is love!

And there's MORE, MUCH MORE my friend. God has sooo much more to say, soooo much more to reveal. You have so much catching up to do. As do I. God is love my friend. The greatest fruit of God's character, the Father, the Son and His Spirit is LOVE.

What book are you refering too? The book John wrote, from which you've referenced? The scriptures? The 80 books, 73, 66, 11 books of the various bibles compiled over the past 2000 years?
Quoting YOU:

"ALL humans have sinned against God and all are going to hell forever and ever."

Doctrines of DEMONS!
 

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Lie. I've never claimed to be a universalist

On multiple occasions you have said all people will be saved eventually, that makes you an universalist.

Lie. I have no time for demons, evil spirits. I live by the Spirit of the Creator Who lives in me right now and has been present with me ever since I was born again and confessed Jesus Christ as my Lord and my King, my Redeemer and Older Brother, my Great High Priest and Friend.

The lord Jesus is not your brother, He is God, you are human.
 
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What if the wish is the father of the doctrine ?

Not sure what you mean here

It's my wish that there will be a full reconciliation because 1) God gets what He wanted and 2) He will triumph over free will, the feature He gave to all the creatures He created and free will became the origin of sin.

That :

Filipp 2:10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Filipp 2:11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

And all creatures really mean it.

So, that's my wish, in sync with what God wants.

However, that wish should match with the Scriptures and if not it is a false doctrine.
 
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Friend coddling dont work .

Does not matter, what matters is things should be said. You should know me by now.

Though i do appreciate the fact you are warning .

I know :grinning:

Its not WHAT IF he is wrong . HE IS wrong , dead wrong
As i am sure you do agree we are to preach ONE gospel
not two .
And the one true gospel DARN SURE SAID YE MUST BELEIVE AND CONFESS JESUS THE CHRIST to be saved .
SO here is my warning to these people
who try and preach a, well another gospel .
Beware lest that come upon you which was written
BEHOLD , wonder AND PERISH . notice that says PERISH
for i work a work in your days that you will in no wise beleive though a man declare it unto you .
THERE AINT no universal salvation to those who reject JESUS
THERE IS ONLY THIS
ALL liars , UNBELEIVERS , LAKE OF FIRE be their home .
And we darn sure dont want to add too or take from that book , KNOW what i MEAN .

And maybe that is your call to write what you write.

But the final arbiter is Jesus.

Not me.
 

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Quoting YOU:

"ALL humans have sinned against God and all are going to hell forever and ever."

Doctrines of DEMONS!
I'm more than happy retelling the great news of the love of God demonstrated in His giving His Son as the Sacrificial Lamb Who takes away sin, and being a Ransom for ALL who were going to the lake of fire forever and ever.

For the wages of sin is death.

And there's MORE! Don't stop there. Here's more of God's narrative.

BUT the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord!!
 

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On multiple occasions you have said all people will be saved eventually, that makes you an universalist.
Some people are ok with labelling things and putting things into boxes. I'm not too interested in that myself. So go for it if that blesses you.
The lord Jesus is not your brother, He is God, you are human.
Jesus and I share the same Father, making us brothers.
 
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Does not matter, what matters is things should be said. You should know me by now.



I know :grinning:



And maybe that is your call to write what you write.

But the final arbiter is Jesus.

Not me.
So long as you are correcting those in error its good enough for me my friend .
And so long as you dont call those haters who might rebuke sharply that is fine with me .
 

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On multiple occasions you have said all people will be saved eventually, that makes you an universalist.



The lord Jesus is not your brother, He is God, you are human.
Let this wee thing show you WHY i often tell us we need to be IN the bible for ourselves .
Because that man can nail you on what you last stated .
And we both know a Jw is dangerous . But often many do not know
the scrips that well and even IF they are correct to expose the errors of such a camp
THEY can leave themselves open to appear to be IN ERROR and thus make the other camp LOOK right .
Read mathew chapter twelve my friend .
FOR WHOSOEVER does the will of MY FATHER the same is my brother , sister , mother .
I knew he was going to get you when you wrote that JESUS is not your brother .
THOUGH I know what you meant by this . because often folks DO NOT treat JESUS with the respect due HIM .
 
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Does not matter, what matters is things should be said. You should know me by now.



I know :grinning:



And maybe that is your call to write what you write.

But the final arbiter is Jesus.

Not me.
With renewed effort and joy of the LORD , let us begin afresh in the scriptures to learn for ourselves .
Bible time in the building to be stirred up by way of remembrance .
As even peter , paul and others had wrote such letters to the churches to STIR them up .
Bible time in the house . And what i say to you , i say to all , BIBLE TIME .
The more we learn and stay refreshed THEN AMEN . cause we got many fleecers in this late and final hour upon earth .
 
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I'm more than happy retelling the great news of the love of God demonstrated in His giving His Son as the Sacrificial Lamb Who takes away sin, and being a Ransom for ALL who were going to the lake of fire forever and ever.

For the wages of sin is death.

And there's MORE! Don't stop there. Here's more of God's narrative.

BUT the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord!!
We're all going to Hell forever, remember? You said so.
 
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We're all going to Hell forever, remember? You said so.
Many heed the lips of a jw , a mormon , a RCC solider , an SDA
and many other things . Cause they already creeping to b e as one with all of them .
TIS no wonder why so many odd doctrines have come in amongst us all over the years .
And now they doing the same with Christendom and muslims , b uddists and etc .
Many are NOT gonna make it jack .
They too in love with judge not lets just find common ground and have unity and this false version of LOVE
they now beleive TO BE OF GOD . ITs g onna merge them as one . AS ONE mind , one heart
One love , one unity ALL under what they ALL will beleive is GOD and LOVE .
ONLY , IT AINT GOD OR HIS LOVE . ITs dragon love that has made ready their hearts
to be as one . Nimrod love and now they build their all inclusive many path many strange and diverse stone tower
THEY all beleive is the way to heaven . ONLY , NOPE its all coming DOWN on the day of the LORD
and every diverse stone in it gonna wail and wail and wail .
Cause i repeat , GOD WILL NOT be DENIED
and if one denies JESUS is the CHRIST they do DENY GOD
and if one tries to add a big kumybia ending that entails naught but a lie , UNBELEIF
WELL they shall surely wail . We cant add too or t ake from THE WORDS of the LORD
lest we be found the liar .
 
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Many heed the lips of a jw , a mormon , a RCC solider , an SDA
and many other things . Cause they already creeping to b e as one with all of them .
TIS no wonder why so many odd doctrines have come in amongst us all over the years .
And now they doing the same with Christendom and muslims , b uddists and etc .
Many are NOT gonna make it jack .
They too in love with judge not lets just find common ground and have unity and this false version of LOVE
they now beleive TO BE OF GOD . ITs g onna merge them as one . AS ONE mind , one heart
One love , one unity ALL under what they ALL will beleive is GOD and LOVE .
ONLY , IT AINT GOD OR HIS LOVE . ITs dragon love that has made ready their hearts
to be as one . Nimrod love and now they build their all inclusive many path many strange and diverse stone tower
THEY all beleive is the way to heaven . ONLY , NOPE its all coming DOWN on the day of the LORD
and every diverse stone in it gonna wail and wail and wail .
Cause i repeat , GOD WILL NOT be DENIED
and if one denies JESUS is the CHRIST they do DENY GOD
and if one tries to add a big kumybia ending that entails naught but a lie , UNBELEIF
WELL they shall surely wail . We cant add too or t ake from THE WORDS of the LORD
lest we be found the liar .
I don't know what One 2 question is, but I know he's guided by demons. Here's the exact quote:

"ALL humans have sinned against God and all are going to hell forever and ever."
 
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On the day of Pentecost the God fearing Jews misunderstood and mocked the coming and workings of the Spirit of God, sent from God. This has continued to happen ever since that incredible day when the Creator sent His Spirit to enter into humans and changed the world forever.

I for one will not be mocking, blaspheming or showing contempt towards the Gift of God made available to us humans. I don't reject God my Father, nor Jesus my Lord and certainly not Their precious Gift, Holy Spirit.
Well said.

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I don't know what One 2 question is, but I know he's guided by demons. Here's the exact quote:

"ALL humans have sinned against God and all are going to hell forever and ever."

They said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”
But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?

I said unto you: ‘The servant is not greater than his lord.’ If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you.

I declare that Satan is a liar and the father of all lies. Satan deserves to be judged for the gross evil and wickedness he has carried out on this planet and deserves to be thrown into the lake of fire. As do his angels.

Therefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed, and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, except by the Holy Ghost.

Jesus Christ the Son of God the Creator is Lord, in fact, my Lord.

What a privilege it is to be able to present Christ Jesus to those lost in the darkness of Satan's kingdom. Then to make disciples of those who repent and run to Jesus, making Him their Lord, Saviour and King. Satan hates me and many others because we have and continue to make disciples of Jesus the Creator.
 
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You have spoken a prophecy right from the throne of God that everybody will be saved eventually. All the way that even the devil will sit at the left hand of God the Father and Christ on the right hand of God the Father.

And what if you are wrong ?

What if the wish is the father of the doctrine ?

If one believes the Spirit of God has revealed to them that all humanity shall be saved, it cannot be the Spirit of Christ working in them. Because, though I believe the Spirit speaks to believers through means other than the written Word of God, He will not speak anything that causes contradiction and confusion upon the written Word. For this reason we must test that which we believe proceeds from the Spirit of Christ against that which is written.

1 John 5:7-8 (KJV) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
 
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