Not a future seeing Jesus coming guy

[amigo de christo]

Well, while people can say whatever they want to. The content and context of the narrative points to 70Ad.

Because taking Yeshua for his word concerning that generation, it was 40 years before the destruction occurred, along with the taking of the bride.

Therefore, that is where I personally stand concerning 1000 years.

Not a single person should ever believe me but seek out for themselves.

people are NOT GOD . I am not GOD , you are not GOD .
And its high time we realize this fact and stop paying homage to that which is not GOD .
In other words , let us not pander to men and thier opinions .
Rather Truth must be SPOKEN and any opinion contrary TO GOD must be rejected , not accepted and YES CORRECTED
for the sake of the one in error and so as leaven cannot enter in and beget more error , as leaven sure can and does
leaven the whole lump .
SO lets say with and from our hearts , that I am not GOD , you are not GOD , humanity is not GOD
the pastor is not GOD . GOD IS GOD and its time we speak THE TRUTH to this people .

 

[amigo de christo]

Well, while people can say whatever they want to. The content and context of the narrative points to 70Ad.

Because taking Yeshua for his word concerning that generation, it was 40 years before the destruction occurred, along with the taking of the bride.

Therefore, that is where I personally stand concerning 1000 years.

Not a single person should ever believe me but seek out for themselves.

Not only should every person test what one says , THEY SHOULD also have SOUGHT OUT THE TRUTH
for themselves . TO make SURE what they say IS THE TRUTH .
TO be humble is a good thing , WHEN TRUTH IS TAUGHT and GOD IS HONORED
but to have an appearance of humility and yet speak contradictions TO GOD , IS NOT GOOD .
Let that be a reminder to us all .
FOR in the last day WHEN ALL stand before HIM
as a goat or as a sheep
IT WONT BE man judging. SO i suggest WE make sure ITS HIS WORDS and words that AGREE TO HIS WORDS
that we be speaking .
SO let us with renewed joy and effort get BACK into the bible and really be reading and learning for ourselves .

 

[soberxp]

and by him i assume that means CHRIST .
Someone lied to us my friend . So when you include that message
be sure and add in , WE DONT BELEIVE THAT for second . Trench TIME in the building

So you choose to believe some and not some. How do you tell who is a liar? Who but I said he saw the day of the return of Jesus Christ.

Any doctrine in history who says he saw it with his own eyes, and who says he knew the time of Jesus' return was in the future, Isn't it an obvious contradiction that the Bible says no one knows the time?
But the father who in heaven.

 

[MatthewG]

Certainly, my friend.
I place full trust in the testimony of Scripture concerning the times and generations of those who lived then. As it is written, “All Scripture (Mainly speaking of the old testament to timothy) is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16).

I’m grateful for the enduring presence of the Bible, which offers hope and strengthens our faith—encouraging us to look to Yahavah and worship in spirit and in truth, just as Yeshua taught: “But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him” (John 4:23).

It is a profound comfort to know that through faith, we are adopted as children of Yahavah. As Paul writes, “The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ” (Romans 8:16–17). Because of this adoption, we may come boldly before Him: “Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need” (Hebrews 4:16).

We are led by the Spirit of the resurrected Lord Yeshua, who cultivates heavenly fruit within us—fruit that blesses others and refines our own hearts. As Galatians 5:22–23 declares, “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.”

 

[amigo de christo]

So you choose to believe some and not some. How do you tell who is a liar? Who but I said he saw the day of the return of Jesus Christ.

Any doctrine in history who says he saw it with his own eyes, and who says he knew the time of Jesus' return was in the future, Isn't it an obvious contradiction that the Bible says no one knows the time?
But the father who in heaven.

never sit under a harlot my friend .
Always remember that a harlot knows what to say and to do to please the flesh of man to have a man sit under her .
Never heed a harlot .
Just a friendly reminder to us all . a harlots love is deadly.

 

[MatthewG]

Amigo must have forgotten that Rahab was a Harlot.


That's alright, I live to remind.

Hebrews 11:13 It was by faith that Rahab the prostitute was not destroyed with the people in her city who refused to obey God. For she had given a friendly welcome to the spies.

 

[ProDeo]

Do you have any historic evidence of a group of Christians being being gathered up by a returning Christ and taken to heaven with him ?

Matt 16:28 Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

Matt 24:39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Matt 24:40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left.
Matt 24:41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left.

 

[amigo de christo]

Amigo must have forgotten that Rahab was a Harlot.


That's alright, I live to remind.

Hebrews 11:13 It was by faith that Rahab the prostitute was not destroyed with the people in her city who refused to obey God. For she had given a friendly welcome to the spies.

Hey , mighty hunter , I spoke not of that kind of harlot . Wake up .
You keep repeating that same line . snap out of it mathew .

 

[amigo de christo]

So you choose to believe some and not some. How do you tell who is a liar? Who but I said he saw the day of the return of Jesus Christ.

Any doctrine in history who says he saw it with his own eyes, and who says he knew the time of Jesus' return was in the future, Isn't it an obvious contradiction that the Bible says no one knows the time?
But the father who in heaven.

What ever do you mean my friend . That i choose to Beleive some and not some .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Hey , mighty hunter , I spoke not of that kind of harlot . Wake up .
You keep repeating that same line . snap out of it mathew .

 

[Marvelloustime]

never sit under a harlot my friend .
Always remember that a harlot knows what to say and to do to please the flesh of man to have a man sit under her .
Never heed a harlot .
Just a friendly reminder to us all . a harlots love is deadly.

@amigo de christo

 

[Douggg]

Matt 16:28 Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

Matt 24:39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Matt 24:40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left.
Matt 24:41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left.

Hi ProDeo,

Matthew 16:28 was fulfilled in Acts 1, as some of the disciples saw Jesus leave this earth from the mount of Olives, ascending up into a cloud and to heaven.

Acts 1:
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.

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And if you go to Daniel 7, we read about Jesus arriving in heaven and given His kingdom....

Daniel 7:
13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.


When Jesus returns, He will bring His kingdom of heaven to earth to become the Kingdom of God to rule over the nations. Which part of the Lord's prayer taught to us is....."may Thy kingdom come, may Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."

 

[Marvelloustime]

Not only should every person test what one says , THEY SHOULD also have SOUGHT OUT THE TRUTH
for themselves . TO make SURE what they say IS THE TRUTH .
TO be humble is a good thing , WHEN TRUTH IS TAUGHT and GOD IS HONORED
but to have an appearance of humility and yet speak contradictions TO GOD , IS NOT GOOD .
Let that be a reminder to us all .
FOR in the last day WHEN ALL stand before HIM
as a goat or as a sheep
IT WONT BE man judging. SO i suggest WE make sure ITS HIS WORDS and words that AGREE TO HIS WORDS
that we be speaking .
SO let us with renewed joy and effort get BACK into the bible and really be reading and learning for ourselves .

@amigo de christo

 

[MatthewG]

I affirm with conviction that during His earthly ministry, Yeshua (Jesus) walked in full alignment with the Spirit of God. As the incarnate Word—“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1)—He revealed the nature and heart of the Father to those around Him. Yeshua Himself declared, “He who has seen Me has seen the Father” (John 14:9), testifying to the divine unity between Himself and Yahavah.

Through the power of the Holy Spirit, Yeshua was obedient unto death, even death on a cross (Philippians 2:8). After three days in the grave, He was raised by the Spirit of God—“But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies” (Romans 8:11). Following His resurrection, He remained with His disciples for a time, then ascended into heaven as recorded in Acts 1:9–11, with the promise that He would return in like manner to receive His bride.

The prophetic arc of Revelation chapters 1 through 20 outlines the unfolding of divine judgment and redemption. What remains is the consummation found in chapters 21 and 22—the new heaven, the new earth, and the eternal dwelling of God with His people. After having sat at the right hand of Yahavah (Hebrews 1:3), Yeshua transitions to His former glory, seated with the Father on the throne. As Revelation 3:21 declares: “To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.” This throne is singular—“And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it” (Revelation 22:3)—revealing their unity as one.

I believe that when we pass from this life, we will behold the Lord Yeshua, the visible image of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15), now glorified and reigning as “Lord God Almighty” (Revelation 21:22). May you be led by the resurrected Spirit of Yeshua that dwells within, guiding you into truth, hope, and boldness before the throne of grace (Hebrews 4:16).

Thank you for reading. My conviction on this matter is unwavering, as it is rooted in the testimony of Scripture. No theological reinterpretation or apostolic narrative can displace the truth that Yeshua, having fulfilled His mission, was glorified and restored to divine unity with the Father, seated upon the throne as one.

 

[Douggg]

The prophetic arc of Revelation chapters 1 through 20 outlines the unfolding of divine judgment and redemption. What remains is the consummation found in chapters 21 and 22—the new heaven, the new earth, and the eternal dwelling of God with His people.

Matthew, I think you need to review the 7 trumpet plagues and the 7 vials of God's wrath. The earth has not seen the severity of those plagues yet.

For example, in Revelation 16:3, the second angel pours out a vial of God's wrath and everything in the sea died.

In Matthew 24:15-21, when the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be great tribulation unmatched in man's history.

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

 

[MatthewG]

No thank you doug.

You might be older than me and stuff, but Ive made my mind up already.

You won't be able to teach me anything else to consider...

I do not believe Jesus is gonna set up a kingdom on earth... -- That directly goes against what Jesus stated to Pilate.

"My kingdom is not of this world." - We are part of the Kingdom by the spiritual newness of life gained from being adopted.

As Gods Children.


I will not change my mind as I am already convinced in my mind, and I have no right to dominate over how you put your faith into practice so if you believe what you do.

Thank you for sharing with me, I hear you, but I am not so interested in claiming end times for people today. All we got is life, until we finally die.

I believe the time which would never be so great again, has already happened.

 

[Douggg]

"My kingdom is not of this world."

The kingdom that Jesus would receive is the kingdom of Heaven. When Jesus returns, He will bring the kingdom of Heaven to be the ruling Kingdom of God over the nations.

 

[MatthewG]

If that is your perspective, I respect it.


As for me, I hold firmly to the conviction that our identity in the Kingdom of God is spiritual in nature. Through the finished work of Yeshua (Jesus), we are adopted as children of God—not by our own merit, but by His grace and obedience.


Scripture affirms this truth: “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name” (John 1:12). Paul echoes this in Romans 8:15, “For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, ‘Abba, Father.’”


Our place in the heavenly kingdom is not earned by human effort, but granted through the righteousness of Christ. As Ephesians 2:8–9 declares, “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.”


Yeshua accomplished what we never could. Through His life, death, and resurrection, He opened the way for us to be reconciled to the Father and made heirs of the promise: “And if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ” (Romans 8:17).


This spiritual adoption is not symbolic—it is transformative. It redefines our identity, our purpose, and our eternal trajectory.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Matthew, I think you need to review the 7 trumpet plagues and the 7 vials of God's wrath. The earth has not seen the severity of those plagues yet.

For example, in Revelation 16:3, the second angel pours out a vial of God's wrath and everything in the sea died.

If that's all meant to be taken literally then why does Paul talk about unbelievers saying "peace and safety" just before Jesus comes again (1 Thess 5:2-3) and why does Jesus talk about people being oblivious to the wrath He will bring down on them when He comes again as He did when He talked about people just doing the normal things they do (eating, drinking, marrying, etc.) just before He comes like people were doing in the days of Noah before the flood came and destroyed them all (Matt 24:37-39)? I doubt that people would be saying "peace and safety" and just going about doing all the things they normally do if they saw things happening such as seeing something that caused everything in the sea to die.

 

[Douggg]

You might be older than me and stuff, but Ive made my mind up already.

So have Muslims. So what ?

They can't defend their beliefs using the bible.