When will the earth be 6,000 years old?

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I believe when the earth, sun and moon reach being created 6,000 years ago, Jesus, the Creator, will return to rule the earth for 1,000 years. God does things in prophetic language. Because the earth was created in 6 days, it is appointed to man 6,000 years to overcome sin until Jesus returns for that 1,000 year Sabbath rest of trusting in Him as He rules the earth from Jerusalem.

It is hard for me to figure out when that 6,000 years ends. According to the Jewish calendar, in September their new year reached 5,786 years. By the Gregorian calendar of Constantine we are in 2,025 plus 4,004 years equals 6,029 years which is probably wrong. No wonder man does not know the day, nor the hour. We can't even figure out the year!
 

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No wonder man does not know the day, nor the hour. We can't even figure out the year!

Well, if my maths is correct then we are in the year 6,125 solar years form the day Adam was created, such that the 6,000th years from when Adam was created occurred in the year 1900 AD.

However, there are a number of factors that will change this solution to your question.

For me the end of the Sixth age from the time of God's creation of Adam will in all probability occur in the year 2044 AD. This assumed date from which the seventh Age will commence is also subjected to a number of factors an in expressing my uncertainty, I hedge the end of this present age in the words of "Around the year 2044 AD.
 

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I believe when the earth, sun and moon reach being created 6,000 years ago...Because the earth was created in 6 days,...
Do you also believe that the earth is flat, that stars, the Sun, the Moon are just lights in the firmament? That the firmament keeps waters above and raining is the water falling through the windows in it? Do you believe that the heavens are literally above us?
 
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The Geisenklösterle Flute found in the Geisenklösterle cave in Germany is between 42 and 45,000 years old.

The Australian Jack Hills Zircon is 4.375 billion years old. Give or take 6 million years.

Skeptics may say testing of these artifacts can't be trusted.
I suggest presuming to do the math by extrapolating the narrative in Genesis is not a superior dating method itself.

The oldest human fossil is a jawbone. Catalogued as UR 501and filed under the category of Homo rudolfensis.
It is between 2.3 and 2.5 million years old.

God created humans and all that exists. Maybe we should realize the Genesis account is not to be taken as an actual anthropological historic account.
But as a human cultural allegory.

1 Samuel 2:8. We know this planet is not sitting atop pillars. Why would we think the human race is but 6000 years old when there are neolithic cultures dating to around 10,000 BCE.

 

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Well, if my maths is correct then we are in the year 6,125 solar years form the day Adam was created,
Interestingly, this closely matches my calculations. Do you have any thoughts on when the Fall occurred?

Much love!
 

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Jesus didn't treat it that way. Neither did the Apostles. You may, but that doesn't make you right. I think Jesus would know better, don't you?

Much love!
In keeping with the Young Earth line of discussion, Jesus his time in first century did not say the Earth was six thousand years old. Or,was created some sixty centuries before.

I believe Yeshua,I Am, my Lord of many names including, God, knows what he created and when.

Because all things belong to the Father who is over all and within all.

Much love back!
 
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He treated the Genesis account of creation as the literal account of what God did.

Much love!
He was there doing it,so yes that's true.

Again,my observation addresses the idea Jesus created all things including Earth six thousand years ago.

As we know, the Bible is filled with parables (Matthew 13:34) ,allegories, types, and other literary devices in order for the Magnificent
Eternal, Sovereign, Holy Spirit to convey His message unto our human consciousness.
 

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Interestingly, this closely matches my calculations. Do you have any thoughts on when the Fall occurred?

Much love!

No, the bible is silent as to when Cain and Able were born. We only know that when Adam was 130 years old that Seth was born, who was a replacement for Able who Cain had killed.

We can only assume that the fall occurred sometime before Cain was born. When the fall occurred is not significantly important in God's overall Salvation Plan for mankind. The Fall is only told to highlight how easily it is to turn away from God to resolve our questions without first considering asking God for His thoughts on the matters that causes us to question Him.

As to how close our respective calculations are, depends on the year in which you believe Isaac was born. I usually find that many people have missed the one year that the flood occurred over so that our respective calculations fall over as to the year when Arphaxad was born to Shem.

These are the recorded sons of Shem: -

Genesis 10:22: - 22 The sons of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.​
1 Chronicles 1:17: - 17 The sons of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, Aram, Uz, Hul, Gether, and Meshech.​

The differences in the two above descendant lists does not invalid God's Salvation Covenant with Mankind.

What I do know is that Ussher's brother in-law's calculations as to the year that Adam was created is fairly close to my calculation, but my suspicion is that he believed that Christ was born in the year 7 BC. However, a three-year difference over around 4,100 or so years is a very small error, ≈ 0.073%, which is not worth having an argument over with him since he now is not able to defend his conclusions.
 

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It all comes down to what each person believes in--everyone in their own eyes is correct--and that is the point. That is what the world is.

This world is everything everyone ever believed made manifest by God--the man of sin revealed.

Thus, if one believes the earth and all creation is according to the biblical record, as "a day is as a thousand years" after the pattern and foreshadowing revelation of the creation week--then that is what God will enter into His ledger of what each believes. And if one believes the earth and all creation is millions or billions of years old according to the understanding of men and their sciences--then that is what will be entered into His ledger. Then comes the end and the Judgement.
 

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It all comes down to what each person believes in--everyone in their own eyes is correct--and that is the point. That is what the world is.

This world is everything everyone ever believed made manifest by God--the man of sin revealed.

Thus, if one believes the earth and all creation is according to the biblical record, as "a day is as a thousand years" after the pattern and foreshadowing revelation of the creation week--then that is what God will enter into His ledger of what each believes. And if one believes the earth and all creation is millions or billions of years old according to the understanding of men and their sciences--then that is what will be entered into His ledger. Then comes the end and the Judgement.

Ah ScottA, you are still strutting around pontificating with your arrogance of believing that you are really wise, which not everybody on this forum would agree with.

A season has a duration of 1,000 years, and from my research the little while period has a duration of just 24 years.

In Matthew 24:32, we are told that from the time that the Fig tree begins to bud new leaves at the end of the winter season that we will know that around 96 solar years will pass to when the seventh age begins around the year 2044AD. From Rev 201-3 we learn that for 1,000 years that Satan, the beast(s) and the Little Horn will be imprisoned before they are released to strut around during the little while period that follows their release doing their thing to get mankind to fall away from their relationship with God that was acquired while peace was on the earth because of the incarceration of Satan, the bests(s) and the Little Horn in the Bottomless Pit for this 1,000 year period.

A "thousand" represents the maximum number that can be counted upon the ten digits on our hands. A study of the chronology of the Bible confirms this understanding.
 

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The Geisenklösterle Flute found in the Geisenklösterle cave in Germany is between 42 and 45,000 years old.

The Australian Jack Hills Zircon is 4.375 billion years old. Give or take 6 million years.

Skeptics may say testing of these artifacts can't be trusted.
I suggest presuming to do the math by extrapolating the narrative in Genesis is not a superior dating method itself.

The oldest human fossil is a jawbone. Catalogued as UR 501and filed under the category of Homo rudolfensis.
It is between 2.3 and 2.5 million years old.

God created humans and all that exists. Maybe we should realize the Genesis account is not to be taken as an actual anthropological historic account.
But as a human cultural allegory.

1 Samuel 2:8. We know this planet is not sitting atop pillars. Why would we think the human race is but 6000 years old when there are neolithic cultures dating to around 10,000 BCE.
Personally, unless we wish to include man-like extinct apes we should start counting from the point where we get human writing? At the oldest perhaps 10,000 BC?

I think genealogies are subject to scrutiny. The earth itself is, I think, 4.5 billion years old. God is not concerned with time like we are, and indulges man in his sense of time when he comes into the picture.

God could be extremely patient as the earth gradually produces its fauna and habitat, and gradually creates the great variety of animals. He could then condense the activity in human time to produce results from human works within our much shorter time frame.

Or, God could've written out the whole Creation Story and recorded it on video that can be either slowed down or sped up. A 14-28 billion period of time could be rolled out in just thousands of years if He hit Fast Forward? ;)

I don't know--I wasn't there. But I tend to favor a more uniformitarian view that the time factor remained consistent from beginning to end.
 
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He treated the Genesis account of creation as the literal account of what God did.

Much love!
I would rather say that He treated it as morally authoritative for Jews. "Did you not read that..."

However, there is zero, none instances in which He would argue with Romans or with Greeks that the Genesis stories are literal history and all nations should adopt it. Neither did the apostles.
 
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I would rather say that He treated it as morally authoritative for Jews. "Did you not read that..."

However, there is zero, none instances in which He would argue with Romans or with Greeks that the Genesis stories are literal history and all nations should adopt it. Neither did the apostles.
Neither did Jesus argue with the Jews over whether the Romans should rule them, or regarding any number of topics. That's an argument from silence.

The Bible is written as though these things are true. Why wouldn't you believe them?

Much love!
 

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Do you also believe that the earth is flat, that stars, the Sun, the Moon are just lights in the firmament? That the firmament keeps waters above and raining is the water falling through the windows in it? Do you believe that the heavens are literally above us?
No.
 
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The Geisenklösterle Flute found in the Geisenklösterle cave in Germany is between 42 and 45,000 years old.

The Australian Jack Hills Zircon is 4.375 billion years old. Give or take 6 million years.

Skeptics may say testing of these artifacts can't be trusted.
I suggest presuming to do the math by extrapolating the narrative in Genesis is not a superior dating method itself.

The oldest human fossil is a jawbone. Catalogued as UR 501and filed under the category of Homo rudolfensis.
It is between 2.3 and 2.5 million years old.

God created humans and all that exists. Maybe we should realize the Genesis account is not to be taken as an actual anthropological historic account.
But as a human cultural allegory.

1 Samuel 2:8. We know this planet is not sitting atop pillars. Why would we think the human race is but 6000 years old when there are neolithic cultures dating to around 10,000 BCE.

Were you taught evolution in school? I never was so I don't have to fight against myths in my brain.
 

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Do you also believe that the earth is flat, that stars, the Sun, the Moon are just lights in the firmament? That the firmament keeps waters above and raining is the water falling through the windows in it? Do you believe that the heavens are literally above us?

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